[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread uns_tressor



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and counselled 
 others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise what 
 they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or MMY 
 you should put your money where you mouth was.
 
 Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling like 
 the process doesn't work...

...you should do what you were told to do when you first
learnt. Better still, or at least as good, go to a teacher
who learned to teach in the early seventies, and discuss 
your issues.

Use that ingredient of the system that makes TM better than 
all the other me too techniques.

And get into European Football. We would like to thrash seven 
kinds of crap out of your team. It would be a special fixture.

Uns.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/24/06 4:09:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and counselled 
 others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise what 
 they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or MMY 
 you should put your money where you mouth was.
 
 Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling like 
 the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting my 
 time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH ME!
 
 
 
 
 I would love to, had great experiences when I was regular a few years ago 
 but have developed sleep apnea in the past few years and I fall asleep within 
 minutes of starting the mantra and can potentially sleep for hours at a time.


Sleep apnea while sitting up is quite unusual, I think. Have you seen a doctor about this?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/24/06 4:09:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and 
counselled 
 others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise 
what 
 they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or 
MMY 
 you should put your money where you mouth was.
 
 Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling 
like 
 the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting 
my 
 time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH ME!
 
 
 
 
 I would love to, had great experiences when I was regular a few 
years ago 
 but have developed sleep apnea in the past few years and I fall 
asleep within 
 minutes of starting the mantra and can potentially sleep for 
hours at a time.


I think the Elephant Man had this problem, too.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 5/24/06 3:57 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and 
counselled
  others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise 
what
  they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or 
MMY
  you should put your money where you mouth was.
  
  Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling 
like
  the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting 
my
  time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH 
ME!
 
 I used to sell drugs. Should I still be taking (and selling) them?


If you were touting drugs as the answer to the world's problems 
then, yes, you should still be taking and selling them.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/24/06 4:59:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sleep 
  apnea while sitting up is quite unusual, I think. Have you seen a doctor about 
  this?

Yes and I use a C-pap. Formally diagnosed with a sleep test in 
a hospital. Lack of quality sleep at night causes you to fall asleep easily when 
sitting down and relaxed during the rest of the 
day.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/24/06 5:05:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think 
  the Elephant Man had this problem, too.

No, that was due to the Ganesh mantra he 
used





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/24/06 5:03 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 5/24/06 3:57 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and
 counselled
 others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise
 what
 they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or
 MMY
 you should put your money where you mouth was.
 
 Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling
 like
 the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting
 my
 time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH
 ME!
 
 I used to sell drugs. Should I still be taking (and selling) them?
 
 
 If you were touting drugs as the answer to the world's problems
 then, yes, you should still be taking and selling them.

Actually, I was.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/24/06 4:59:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sleep apnea while sitting up is quite unusual, I think. Have you 
seen a 
 doctor about this?
 
 Yes and I use a C-pap. Formally diagnosed with a sleep test in a 
 hospital. Lack of quality sleep at night causes you to fall asleep 
 easily when sitting down and relaxed during the rest of the day.

You're still not getting quality sleep even with the C-pap?

Otherwise I'd wonder if you weren't making up for the
sleep deprivation that occurred before you got the
C-pap, and that eventually you'd be less likely to
fall asleep while meditating.

On the other hand, if you're still not getting quality
sleep, maybe it would be a good thing to make up for
some of it during your meditation periods?










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
Was there a 30 days' checking?

Sal


On May 24, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

>> I used to sell drugs. Should I still be taking (and selling) them?
>> 
> 
> If you were touting drugs as the answer to the world's problems
> then, yes, you should still be taking and selling them.

Actually, I was.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/24/06 5:30:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Yes 
  and I use a C-pap. Formally diagnosed with a sleep test in a  
  hospital. Lack of quality sleep at night causes you to fall asleep  
  easily when sitting down and relaxed during the rest of the 
  day.You're still not getting quality sleep even with the 
  C-pap?Otherwise I'd wonder if you weren't making up for thesleep 
  deprivation that occurred before you got theC-pap, and that eventually 
  you'd be less likely tofall asleep while meditating.On the other 
  hand, if you're still not getting qualitysleep, maybe it would be a good 
  thing to make up forsome of it during your meditation 
periods?

Actually I do get better quality sleepwith the C-pap and 
sleep longer also. Meditation now has improved somewhat but I definitely can not 
really "let go" in a morning meditation on a work day for fear of falling asleep 
for an hour or more and being late for work and If I fell asleep during an 
evening meditation for an hour or two, I wouldn't be able to get to sleep on 
time to have a full nights sleep. Retirement is coming soon and I'll be able 
tolet go and sleep as much as I need to in or out of meditation and 
hopefully resolve the fatigue factor. It's that old " I'll do it when I retire" 
thing Indians always say. Now I know where they are coming 
from.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/24/06 5:30:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Yes and I use a C-pap. Formally diagnosed with a sleep test in 
a 
  hospital. Lack of quality sleep at night causes you to fall 
asleep 
  easily when sitting down and relaxed during the rest of the 
day.
 
 You're still not getting quality sleep even with the C-pap?
 
 Otherwise I'd wonder if you weren't making up for the
 sleep deprivation that occurred before you got the
 C-pap, and that eventually you'd be less likely to
 fall asleep while meditating.
 
 On the other hand, if you're still not getting quality
 sleep, maybe it would be a good thing to make up for
 some of it during your meditation periods?
 
 Actually I do get better quality sleep with the C-pap and sleep
 longer also. Meditation now has improved somewhat but I definitely 
 can not really let go in a morning meditation on a work day for 
 fear of falling asleep for an hour or more and being late for work 
 and If I fell asleep during an evening meditation for an hour or 
 two, I wouldn't be able to get to sleep on time to have 
 a full nights sleep.

Man, that's a drag! I don't suppose you could
use a very gentle alarm to wake up?

You're doing everything else you should be 
doing to mitigate the sleep apnea, right,
keeping your weight down and so on?

 Retirement is coming soon and I'll be able to 
 let go and sleep as much as I need to in or out of meditation and 
 hopefully resolve the fatigue factor. It's that old  I'll do it 
 when I retire thing Indians always say. Now I know where they 
 are coming from.

I think we all start coming from there when
we get close to retirement.

I bet once you don't have to worry about how
long you sleep, you'll get the fatigue out of
your system pretty quickly.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread coshlnx



---It's not what you give up. Just add one thing: Ramana Maharshi. Get 
the audios and videos, then, get into Ramana. Life becomes simpler.
http://www.arunachala.org/ 

 People move on.
 
 shempmcgurk wrote:
 
 I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and counselled
 others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise what
 they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or MMY
 you should put your money where you mouth was.
 
 Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling like
 the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting my
 time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH ME!
 
  
 











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you taught TM, you should still DO TM

2006-05-24 Thread Bhairitu



I was into that before TM.

coshlnx wrote:

---It's not what you give up. Just add one thing: Ramana Maharshi. Get
the audios and videos, then, get into Ramana. Life becomes simpler.
http://www.arunachala.org/
 
  People move on.
 
  shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  I dunno, it seems to me that if one actively taught TM and counselled
  others to do TM twice a day that those people should practise what
  they preached. Even if you're now disillusioned with the TMO or MMY
  you should put your money where you mouth was.
  
  Besides, misery likes company. When I'm unstressing and feeling like
  the process doesn't work, I don't want to feel that I'm wasting my
  time doing TM twice a day. YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING ALONG WITH ME!
  
   
  
 






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