Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News





on 6/11/06 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

3 out of 4 dentists surveyed prefer Crest!

Reminds me of a line from “Friends”:

Rachel: You guys, guess what guess what guess what?

Chandler: What, the fifth dentist caved and now they're all recommending trident?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

3 out of 4 dentists surveyed prefer Crest!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study
> > in which she
> > tried to
> > > correlate health and other statistics with the
> > orientation of
> > regular,
> > > non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in
> > north-facing homes
> > were in
> > > worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I
> > don�t think it was
> > ever
> > > published.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks  Bob,
> > 
> > I think this is an area that can be tested. 
> > Specific claims deserve
> > specific proof.
> > 
> > Curtis
> 
> It was a "quick and dirty" study not fit for
> publishing because it was a self-report survey!
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > , "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This post got me wondering: Are there any
> > Vastu studies?  
> > > Ayur Veda,
> > > > >> > Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these
> > aspects marketed 
> > > separately or
> > > > >> > are they mentioned on the 3rd day of
> > checking?
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > Are these programs marketed solely on the
> > premise of 
> > > authority, i.e.
> > > > >> > Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to
> > give it the same
> > > > >> > scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM
> > technique?
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a
> > study in which she 
> > > tried to
> > > > correlate health and other statistics with the
> > orientation of 
> > > regular,
> > > > non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in
> > north-facing homes 
> > > were in
> > > > worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I
> > don�t think it was 
> > > ever
> > > > published.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > **
> > > 
> > > "Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed
> > research on the 
> > > effects of orientation upon quality of life
> > measurements. Her work 
> > > is some of the groundbreaking research that is
> > thus far validating 
> > > the ancient recommendations in the system of
> > Maharishi Vedic 
> > > architecture. We will highlight her findings in
> > the next issue of 
> > > our newsletter."
> > http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[Sal Sunshine]

Did the next issue ever come out?  And if so, what did it have to say about the research?  I couldn't find anything.

Sal


On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:26 AM, bob_brigante wrote:

"Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the 
effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work 
is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating 
the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic 
architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of 
our newsletter." http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[Peter]

--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> > I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study
> in which she
> tried to
> > correlate health and other statistics with the
> orientation of
> regular,
> > non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in
> north-facing homes
> were in
> > worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I
> don�t think it was
> ever
> > published.
> >
> 
> 
> Thanks  Bob,
> 
> I think this is an area that can be tested. 
> Specific claims deserve
> specific proof.
> 
> Curtis

It was a "quick and dirty" study not fit for
publishing because it was a self-report survey!



> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > , "curtisdeltablues"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This post got me wondering: Are there any
> Vastu studies?  
> > Ayur Veda,
> > > >> > Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these
> aspects marketed 
> > separately or
> > > >> > are they mentioned on the 3rd day of
> checking?
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Are these programs marketed solely on the
> premise of 
> > authority, i.e.
> > > >> > Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to
> give it the same
> > > >> > scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM
> technique?
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a
> study in which she 
> > tried to
> > > correlate health and other statistics with the
> orientation of 
> > regular,
> > > non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in
> north-facing homes 
> > were in
> > > worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I
> don�t think it was 
> > ever
> > > published.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > "Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed
> research on the 
> > effects of orientation upon quality of life
> measurements. Her work 
> > is some of the groundbreaking research that is
> thus far validating 
> > the ancient recommendations in the system of
> Maharishi Vedic 
> > architecture. We will highlight her findings in
> the next issue of 
> > our newsletter."
> http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html
> > 
> > 
> > http://snipurl.com/rmeo
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
[...]
> 
> "Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the 
> effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work 
> is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating 
> the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic 
> architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of 
> our newsletter." http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html
> 
> 
> http://snipurl.com/rmeo
>


Can't find the article or any recent mention of the journal online either via 
pubmed or google 
scholar. The founding editor apparently retired recently, so it may have been 
discontinued.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

> I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she
tried to
> correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of
regular,
> non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes
were in
> worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was
ever
> published.
>


Thanks  Bob,

I think this is an area that can be tested.  Specific claims deserve
specific proof.

Curtis


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
>  wrote:
> >
> > on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  40yahoogroups.com>
> > > , "curtisdeltablues"
> > >  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  
> Ayur Veda,
> > >> > Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed 
> separately or
> > >> > are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> > >> > 
> > >> > Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of 
> authority, i.e.
> > >> > Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> > >> > scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?
> > > 
> 
> 
> > I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she 
> tried to
> > correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of 
> regular,
> > non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes 
> were in
> > worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was 
> ever
> > published.
> >
> 
> 
> **
> 
> "Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the 
> effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work 
> is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating 
> the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic 
> architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of 
> our newsletter." http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html
> 
> 
> http://snipurl.com/rmeo
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > , "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  
Ayur Veda,
> >> > Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed 
separately or
> >> > are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> >> > 
> >> > Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of 
authority, i.e.
> >> > Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> >> > scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?
> > 


> I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she 
tried to
> correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of 
regular,
> non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes 
were in
> worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was 
ever
> published.
>


**

"Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the 
effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work 
is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating 
the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic 
architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of 
our newsletter." http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html


http://snipurl.com/rmeo






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News





on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  Ayur Veda,
> Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed separately or
> are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> 
> Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e.
> Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?

I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don’t think it was ever published.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

If I had money
> to burn, it might be fun to experiment, though.
>

The fun way would be to go to India and see it all.  That way you 
would at least get a fascinating experience out of it.  They can 
really put on a show!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> 
> > > Come to think of it, have there been studies on
> > > Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
> > > Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
> > > Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
> > > tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
> > > works?
> > 
> > I have never heard of any, but I seriously doubt it.  It is 
based 
> > on a whole system of graft with the Feng Shui masters.  They run 
on 
> > a "better pay the Feng Shui master or he will say your building 
is 
> > cursed" blackmail system from what I have read.
> 
> S!  Don't give the TMO any ideas!
> 
> Jeez, a Feng Shui Mafia.  That's depressing.
> 
>   No one is seriously 
> > interested in Western science's opinion.  The tradition goes 
back 
> so 
> > far.  But it is interesting that it has perpetuated itself till 
> > today.  
> > 
> >  Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
> > > scientific studies you might get some in the general
> > > public to give yagyas a shot.
> > 
> > I don't know how successful the 1% research was for the public.
> 
> Well, I said *convincing* scientific studies.  I
> honestly don't think it's possible, either for the
> Maharishi Effect or Vastu and so on.
>   
> > I suspect the yagya research would be similar.  You would have 
to 
> > believe in the general principle I think, even to be interested 
> > enough to get into the research.  Even diet research seems to 
have 
> > trouble convincing the public of anything, and that is so much 
more 
> > concrete.
> 
> Damn stuff *changes* every other day, it seems.  People
> get confused and give up.
> 
> > I wondered how far scientific language marketing approach went, 
if 
> > the new stuff was being marketed the same way.  I don't suspect 
> > that the science angle on this new stuff is important for most 
> > sidhas. It wasn't ultimately very important for my practice 
after 
> > the first few years.  It had a big influence on me starting 
though.
> 
> Me too.  I wouldn't have come near TM if it hadn't
> been for the scientific research.  But beyond TM
> and the TM-Sidhis, I'm really not tempted by yagyas
> and stuff.  Had my Jyotish chart done once, but it
> didn't tell me anything useful.  If I had money
> to burn, it might be fun to experiment, though.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Come to think of it, have there been studies on
> > Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
> > Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
> > Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
> > tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
> > works?
> 
> I have never heard of any, but I seriously doubt it.  It is based 
> on a whole system of graft with the Feng Shui masters.  They run on 
> a "better pay the Feng Shui master or he will say your building is 
> cursed" blackmail system from what I have read.

S!  Don't give the TMO any ideas!

Jeez, a Feng Shui Mafia.  That's depressing.

  No one is seriously 
> interested in Western science's opinion.  The tradition goes back 
so 
> far.  But it is interesting that it has perpetuated itself till 
> today.  
> 
>  Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
> > scientific studies you might get some in the general
> > public to give yagyas a shot.
> 
> I don't know how successful the 1% research was for the public.

Well, I said *convincing* scientific studies.  I
honestly don't think it's possible, either for the
Maharishi Effect or Vastu and so on.
  
> I suspect the yagya research would be similar.  You would have to 
> believe in the general principle I think, even to be interested 
> enough to get into the research.  Even diet research seems to have 
> trouble convincing the public of anything, and that is so much more 
> concrete.

Damn stuff *changes* every other day, it seems.  People
get confused and give up.

> I wondered how far scientific language marketing approach went, if 
> the new stuff was being marketed the same way.  I don't suspect 
> that the science angle on this new stuff is important for most 
> sidhas. It wasn't ultimately very important for my practice after 
> the first few years.  It had a big influence on me starting though.

Me too.  I wouldn't have come near TM if it hadn't
been for the scientific research.  But beyond TM
and the TM-Sidhis, I'm really not tempted by yagyas
and stuff.  Had my Jyotish chart done once, but it
didn't tell me anything useful.  If I had money
to burn, it might be fun to experiment, though.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

They'd have to be statistical, but statistics for
> what?  The ME studies used statistics on effects for
> very large populations--crime rate, international
> hostilities, and so on--whereas the purported effects
> of Vastu and Yagyas and Jyotish are on individuals.

Yeah I agree.  Plus there is no need to market this product with 
this approach.  It is the wrong pitch for the group with the money 
to spend on it and the desire.

 Come to think of it, have there been studies on
> Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
> Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
> Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
> tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
> works?

I have never heard of any, but I seriously doubt it.  It is based on 
a whole system of graft with the Feng Shui masters.  They run on 
a "better pay the Feng Shui master or he will say your building is 
cursed" blackmail system from what I have read.  No one is seriously 
interested in Western science's opinion.  The tradition goes back so 
far.  But it is interesting that it has perpetuated itself till 
today.  

 Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
> scientific studies you might get some in the general
> public to give yagyas a shot.

I don't know how successful the 1% research was for the public.  
I suspect the yagya research would be similar.  You would have to 
believe in the general principle I think, even to be interested 
enough to get into the research.  Even diet research seems to have 
trouble convincing the public of anything, and that is so much more 
concrete.
 
I wondered how far scientific language marketing approach went, if 
the new stuff was being marketed the same way.  I don't suspect that 
the science angle on this new stuff is important for most sidhas. It 
wasn't ultimately very important for my practice after the first few 
years.  It had a big influence on me starting though.




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wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. I was thinking they might try because the sociological
> > studies on the 1% effect use metodologies that might be used.  
It 
> > seems like an area for statistical analysis.
> 
> They'd have to be statistical, but statistics for
> what?  The ME studies used statistics on effects for
> very large populations--crime rate, international
> hostilities, and so on--whereas the purported effects
> of Vastu and Yagyas and Jyotish are on individuals.
> 
> I think they'd have to be done more along the lines
> of the standard studies on the effects of TM--better
> relationships, greater creativity, less anxiety, etc.
> etc.--but again, the great number of potential variables
> is a problem.  Even the independent variable (I think
> it's called--i.e., the "technique" itself) varies.
> Everybody does TM the same way, but every Vastu home
> is different, for example.
> 
> > I guess by the time someone is
> > buying a yagya that kind of proof is not relevant, and the 
general
> > public wont get into it without TM anyway.  So who would care 
about
> > studies?  I may be the only one!
> 
> Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
> scientific studies you might get some in the general
> public to give yagyas a shot.
> 
> Come to think of it, have there been studies on
> Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
> Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
> Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
> tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
> works?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

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>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Thanks. I was thinking they might try because the sociological
>>studies on the 1% effect use metodologies that might be used.  It 
>>seems like an area for statistical analysis.
>>
>>
>
>They'd have to be statistical, but statistics for
>what?  The ME studies used statistics on effects for
>very large populations--crime rate, international
>hostilities, and so on--whereas the purported effects
>of Vastu and Yagyas and Jyotish are on individuals.
>
>I think they'd have to be done more along the lines
>of the standard studies on the effects of TM--better
>relationships, greater creativity, less anxiety, etc.
>etc.--but again, the great number of potential variables
>is a problem.  Even the independent variable (I think
>it's called--i.e., the "technique" itself) varies.
>Everybody does TM the same way, but every Vastu home
>is different, for example.
>
>  
>
>>I guess by the time someone is
>>buying a yagya that kind of proof is not relevant, and the general
>>public wont get into it without TM anyway.  So who would care about
>>studies?  I may be the only one!
>>
>>
>
>Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
>scientific studies you might get some in the general
>public to give yagyas a shot.
>
>Come to think of it, have there been studies on
>Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
>Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
>Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
>tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
>works?
>
>
>  
>
Doesn't Maharishi Vastu (or whatever its called) use remedials?  I 
mentioned to my guru all the cheap houses that were for sale because 
they weren't vastu compliant in Fairfield when I visited there and he 
said there are remedials for that if you can't remodel the house or move 
to a better property.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

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> I'd guess it would be next to impossible because
> of the huge number of variables.  There have been
> lots of statistical studies of Western astrology,
> at least, but none of them are very convincing.

I see it as quite far from impossible as far as Vastu
is concerned. You can control the variables. I think
the main problem would finding enough Vastu "correct"
dwellings according to the TMO to have a large enough
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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I was thinking they might try because the sociological
> studies on the 1% effect use metodologies that might be used.  It 
> seems like an area for statistical analysis.

They'd have to be statistical, but statistics for
what?  The ME studies used statistics on effects for
very large populations--crime rate, international
hostilities, and so on--whereas the purported effects
of Vastu and Yagyas and Jyotish are on individuals.

I think they'd have to be done more along the lines
of the standard studies on the effects of TM--better
relationships, greater creativity, less anxiety, etc.
etc.--but again, the great number of potential variables
is a problem.  Even the independent variable (I think
it's called--i.e., the "technique" itself) varies.
Everybody does TM the same way, but every Vastu home
is different, for example.

> I guess by the time someone is
> buying a yagya that kind of proof is not relevant, and the general
> public wont get into it without TM anyway.  So who would care about
> studies?  I may be the only one!

Oh, I dunno, if it were possible to do convincing
scientific studies you might get some in the general
public to give yagyas a shot.

Come to think of it, have there been studies on
Feng Shui?  You said in another post the Hong
Kong housing market is heavily influenced by
Feng Shui.  Is that just because it's a cultural
tradition, or is there some evidence that it 
works?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  Ayur Veda,
> Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed separately or
> are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> 
> Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e.
> Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?
> 


Only one or two preliminary studies on Vastu,as far as I know: South-facing 
businesses tend 
to have more robberies.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

Thanks. I was thinking they might try because the sociological studies
on the 1% effect use metodologies that might be used.  It seems like
an area for statistical analysis. I guess by the time someone is
buying a yagya that kind of proof is not relevant, and the general
public wont get into it without TM anyway.  So who would care about
studies?  I may be the only one!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  Ayur Veda,
> > Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed separately or
> > are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> > 
> > Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e.
> > Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> > scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?
> 
> Quite a few Maharishi (and non-Maharishi)
> Ayur-Veda studies; haven't heard of any on
> the rest.  Ayur-Veda is a lot easier to do
> standard research on because there's an
> established scientific methodology in the
> area of health and medicine.  They'd have to
> invent a whole new set of methodologies to
> study Vastu, Yagyas, or Jyotish in anything
> remotely resembling a scientific manner.
> 
> I'd guess it would be next to impossible because
> of the huge number of variables.  There have been
> lots of statistical studies of Western astrology,
> at least, but none of them are very convincing.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  Ayur Veda,
> Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed separately or
> are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?
> 
> Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e.
> Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
> scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?

Quite a few Maharishi (and non-Maharishi)
Ayur-Veda studies; haven't heard of any on
the rest.  Ayur-Veda is a lot easier to do
standard research on because there's an
established scientific methodology in the
area of health and medicine.  They'd have to
invent a whole new set of methodologies to
study Vastu, Yagyas, or Jyotish in anything
remotely resembling a scientific manner.

I'd guess it would be next to impossible because
of the huge number of variables.  There have been
lots of statistical studies of Western astrology,
at least, but none of them are very convincing.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News

[curtisdeltablues]

This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies?  Ayur Veda,
Yagya or Joitish studies?  Are these aspects marketed separately or
are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking?

Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e.
Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same
scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique?



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> The center that teaches TM in Manhattan is closing in a few weeks
because it has improper 
> vastu.  They are waiting for the renovation of the building owned on
Broad Street. This 
> building does have proper vastu, but won't be ready for many months.
I don't know, but I 
> think it is possible that people are no longer to be taught TM in
buildings with improper 
> vastu. Anyone heard this?
>






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