Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
I'll be interested in Ann's reply. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
This lead poisoning claim is another flagrant lie. It is just not hush- up-able, regulatory agencies have to let the public know,and the UK media loves a scandal. You go to see state run M.D. s in the UK, they have regulatory and moral obligation to report such a thing. It is a ridiculous claim.. Not that I am going to nor should anyone bother to try to address all the nonsense that is claimed here about the TM movement etc. This forum does not show up much anymore or maybe not at all on search engines and the new format is very hard to search. So it is slandering but it does not have an audience now. I think that is another reason why some persons might have left this forum, it is of little consequence. I enjoy the posts of a few people here and perhaps a few people might be interested in mine. Believe what you wish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
Not to worry, it's just some slandering Rich Archer or his baby-disciple the MJ has cooked up. On the title-thread and what you write at the bottom: Maharishi declared the Dawn of The Age of Enlightenment on Lake Lucern in 1975. Many here resist change and prefer life to go on as before, particularily because they have the gnawing suspicion that having jumped ship they missed the biggest opportunity in their lifetime. The incoming reports of more and more TM'ers gaining Freedom is like rubbing salt into their wounds. Just let them be, they are definitely ignorable :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This lead poisoning claim is another flagrant lie. It is just not hush- up-able, regulatory agencies have to let the public know,and the UK media loves a scandal. You go to see state run M.D. s in the UK, they have regulatory and moral obligation to report such a thing. It is a ridiculous claim.. Not that I am going to nor should anyone bother to try to address all the nonsense that is claimed here about the TM movement etc. This forum does not show up much anymore or maybe not at all on search engines and the new format is very hard to search. So it is slandering but it does not have an audience now. I think that is another reason why some persons might have left this forum, it is of little consequence. I enjoy the posts of a few people here and perhaps a few people might be interested in mine. Believe what you wish.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
I wish to believe that you and other TM sycophants have common sense, but all evidence is to the contrary. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga This lead poisoning claim is another flagrant lie. It is just not hush- up-able, regulatory agencies have to let the public know,and the UK media loves a scandal. You go to see state run M.D. s in the UK, they have regulatory and moral obligation to report such a thing. It is a ridiculous claim.. Not that I am going to nor should anyone bother to try to address all the nonsense that is claimed here about the TM movement etc. This forum does not show up much anymore or maybe not at all on search engines and the new format is very hard to search. So it is slandering but it does not have an audience now. I think that is another reason why some persons might have left this forum, it is of little consequence. I enjoy the posts of a few people here and perhaps a few people might be interested in mine. Believe what you wish.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? You're missing the point. I am responding to MJ's utter delight and desperate need to know here about this incident. I am not addressing this person's idiocy in having ingested some lead product while pregnant. That is another story altogether. Or maybe Ayurveda doesn't tell you that heavy metals are in their medicines.
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What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? No, I said a stroke. Big difference. But thanks for the good wishes. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
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Michael, excuse the crude reference, but generally speaking you are not a pimple on Ann''s ass, or anyone's ass for that matter. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
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you are creating a fantasy to ascribe the word desperate to my desire to know the facts. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? You're missing the point. I am responding to MJ's utter delight and desperate need to know here about this incident. I am not addressing this person's idiocy in having ingested some lead product while pregnant. That is another story altogether. Or maybe Ayurveda doesn't tell you that heavy metals are in their medicines.
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you seem to be a do as I say, not as I do type person From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? No, I said a stroke. Big difference. But thanks for the good wishes. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
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I see the years of TM have made you quite sattvic. Another fine example of TM efficacy. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga Michael, excuse the crude reference, but generally speaking you are not a pimple on Ann''s ass, or anyone's ass for that matter. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc
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it reveals something about you Mike, that this common expression, (at least in the Midwest) has disturbed you in some way. Now, let's unpack this assertion of yours. I've not been regular in the practice for about 22 years. So, was this alleged sattwa left over from that time? Or this just part of your knee jerk reaction to ascribe anything you find amiss in the world, (Steve, are you exaggerating here? No, I don't think so, at least not by much) to TM? Just curious. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I see the years of TM have made you quite sattvic. Another fine example of TM efficacy. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga Michael, excuse the crude reference, but generally speaking you are not a pimple on Ann''s ass, or anyone's ass for that matter. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is no. So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported scientist Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are creating a fantasy to ascribe the word desperate to my desire to know the facts. If you say so, I stand corrected. My apologies. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? You're missing the point. I am responding to MJ's utter delight and desperate need to know here about this incident. I am not addressing this person's idiocy in having ingested some lead product while pregnant. That is another story altogether. Or maybe Ayurveda doesn't tell you that heavy metals are in their medicines.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This lead poisoning claim is another flagrant lie. Of course it is. It is just not hush- up-able, Of course it isn't. regulatory agencies have to let the public know,and the UK media loves a scandal. You go to see state run M.D. s in the UK, they have regulatory and moral obligation to report such a thing. It is a ridiculous claim.. Of course it is. Anything that upsets your cosy view of vedic perfection just has to be rubbish. But don't bother trying to actually find out about it yourself. Not that I am going to nor should anyone bother to try to address all the nonsense that is claimed here about the TM movement etc. Of course they shouldn't. You are all much better of with your hands over your eyes and your fingers in your ears in case you hear something you don't like. This forum does not show up much anymore or maybe not at all on search engines and the new format is very hard to search. So it is slandering but it does not have an audience now. Actually, if it wasn't true it would be libel which is much more serious. I think that is another reason why some persons might have left this forum, it is of little consequence. Don't let us waste your time. I enjoy the posts of a few people here and perhaps a few people might be interested in mine. Believe what you wish. I'm interested in yours. i like reading other peoples POV about the world, especially if it leaves me staggered that such odd memes persist into the modern world. I also enjoy the denial of people like you when faced with uncomfortable truths, then the cognitive dissonance sets in and we can all have a laugh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga start date
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age? I distinctly remember Marshy ushering in sat yuga about 8 years ago. It was one of his final fits of Ozymandianism, anyone interested in gaining maximum karma points had to report to the local centre and meditate as the full moon rose. I have to say I haven't noticed much of a difference between the previous age of chaos and the new age of perfection but if you're going to change the rules of the game to extermination to those who deserve it then I wasn't going to notice was I?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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You will make a grand Mary Poppins Ann, should Disney ever do a reboot. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
