Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
and there comes a point when we transition from this life and we come face to face with the thoughts, words and actions of the life we have just left. and at that time, there is no one we have to impress by trying to be "hip". we don't have to claim we have no interest in whether there is, or is not, a "bardo" because we are now there, just as we figured we'd be. and yes, it means to live like a warrior in the Carlos Castendes sense, here and now, so that journey is one of interest and fun, and we're not trying to get our ducks in a row, just a bit too late. that, is my Sunday evening, rap. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "By every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation." -MMY Quoting "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>: > nice one, Richard > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > You've just described The Maharishi Effect. Now can you spell > cognitive dissonance? Thanks. > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > > The Rama guy I spent some time with had some interesting theories, > some of which I still lean in the direction of. > > > One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. > > "We know, if we drop a stone in a pond, the ripples begin to move, > and they move over the whole pond, reaching all the extremities. One > slight stir in any part of the pond stirs the whole pond, influences > the entire field of water, and its surroundings. Similarly, by every > thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence > in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any > boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation." - > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi > > > TM Power: Tapping the untapped source of power that lies within > http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y > http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y > > To this day, I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems > with spiritual practice can be traced back to that moment of > mistaking the basic nature of the universe as hierarchical, rather > than relational. > > According to what I've read, one of the demonstrable powers claimed > by TM is the "Maharishi effect." According to TM scientists: > "collective meditation causes changes in a fundamental, unified > physical field, and...those changes radiate into society and affect > all aspects of society for the better"... > > > Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you > mentioned, Rama thought that the study of relational database was > quite beneficial to people on a spiritual path because to become good > at it you have to be capable of holding a huge, three-dimensional > representation of a hunk of data -- and more importantly the > relationships *between* the different parts and types of this hunk of > data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex > corporate database in your head to be this century's counterpart of > Tibetan monks holding whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their > heads. > > > > I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, > but he was right about this one. > > > > > > From: salyavin808 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... > > >---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > Re "Set faces to stunned": > > I am fully gobsmacked. > > > The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned > it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? > > > Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. > > > And this video may have started something. It popped up on my > Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in > his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He > reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do > seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start > practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. > > > * I know he can do them in his head because we were rou
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
/"By every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation."/ -MMY Quoting "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" : nice one, Richard ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've just described The Maharishi Effect. Now can you spell cognitive dissonance? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Rama guy I spent some time with had some interesting theories, some of which I still lean in the direction of. One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. "We know, if we drop a stone in a pond, the ripples begin to move, and they move over the whole pond, reaching all the extremities. One slight stir in any part of the pond stirs the whole pond, influences the entire field of water, and its surroundings. Similarly, by every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation." - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi TM Power: Tapping the untapped source of power that lies within http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y To this day, I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems with spiritual practice can be traced back to that moment of mistaking the basic nature of the universe as hierarchical, rather than relational. According to what I've read, one of the demonstrable powers claimed by TM is the "Maharishi effect." According to TM scientists: "collective meditation causes changes in a fundamental, unified physical field, and...those changes radiate into society and affect all aspects of society for the better"... Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you mentioned, Rama thought that the study of relational database was quite beneficial to people on a spiritual path because to become good at it you have to be capable of holding a huge, three-dimensional representation of a hunk of data -- and more importantly the relationships *between* the different parts and types of this hunk of data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex corporate database in your head to be this century's counterpart of Tibetan monks holding whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their heads. I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, but he was right about this one. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
nice one, Richard ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've just described The Maharishi Effect. Now can you spell cognitive dissonance? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Rama guy I spent some time with had some interesting theories, some of which I still lean in the direction of. One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. "We know, if we drop a stone in a pond, the ripples begin to move, and they move over the whole pond, reaching all the extremities. One slight stir in any part of the pond stirs the whole pond, influences the entire field of water, and its surroundings. Similarly, by every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation." - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi TM Power: Tapping the untapped source of power that lies within http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y To this day, I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems with spiritual practice can be traced back to that moment of mistaking the basic nature of the universe as hierarchical, rather than relational. According to what I've read, one of the demonstrable powers claimed by TM is the "Maharishi effect." According to TM scientists: "collective meditation causes changes in a fundamental, unified physical field, and...those changes radiate into society and affect all aspects of society for the better"... Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you mentioned, Rama thought that the study of relational database was quite beneficial to people on a spiritual path because to become good at it you have to be capable of holding a huge, three-dimensional representation of a hunk of data -- and more importantly the relationships *between* the different parts and types of this hunk of data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex corporate database in your head to be this century's counterpart of Tibetan monks holding whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their heads. I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, but he was right about this one. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I never got into these things, being neither a puzzle nor a game person, but the fellow I live with in my extended family did. He can solve a normal Rubik's cube (3x3) in a couple of minutes. What's more interesting is to see him take on bigger cubes (5x5, 7x7). I'd love to know what having this level of abstract thinking would be like. Maybe science can come up with a pill that temporarily makes one capable of doing a Rubik's in your head, but would you ever want to lose it once you've had it? I never really got into gaming, whether that mindset was expressed via chess or solving complex puzzles. But I *did* get into computer science as a model of and facilitator of expanding consciousness. The Rama guy I spent some time with had some interesting theories, some of which I still lean in the direction of. One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. To this day, I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems with spiritual practice can be traced back to that moment of mistaking the basic nature of the universe as hierarchical, rather than relational. Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you mentioned, Rama thought that the study of relational database was quite beneficial to people on a spiritual path because to become good at it you have to be capable of holding a huge, three-dimensional representation of a hunk of data -- and more importantly the relationships *between* the different parts and types of this hunk of data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex corporate database in your head to be this century's counterpart of Tibetan monks holding whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their heads. I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, but he was right about this one. Hmm, I'd have to know more about his theory to really glom what he's on about. Seems like it could be both relational and heirarchical to me? At least in a physics sense... I used to work with data bases, I really enjoyed it as once you've amassed vast amounts of information you can, if you were systematic enough, mine them for fascinating and hitherto unknown information - things you can't see just from looking at random data. I impressed many a corporate boss with my reports on their media coverage, it looks like you've got super powers if you can see beyond the mundane like that. When I stopped working for the TMO I went back to my old media analysis firm to see if they wanted me back but another division of my company had invented a piece of software to monitor the then new fangled internet for what I used to have to do with newspaper clippings, and they'd all been downsized. Doh! I'm into photography and being able to construct abstract models is essential there too. If you're confronted with a scene and have to adjust something to get results beyond what the auto settings can manage, you've really got to know how what you shift will affect the outcome. Sure, you can take a shot and look at the results on the screen (these days) but to really get what you want you need a working model of a camera in your head and doing this can mean the difference between getting the shot and not getting it. As all cameras are the functionally the same they are also easier to use than Rubik's cubes, to me anyway. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
You've just described The Maharishi Effect. Now can you spell cognitive dissonance? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Rama guy I spent some time with had some interesting theories, some of which I still lean in the direction of. One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. "We know, if we drop a stone in a pond, the ripples begin to move, and they move over the whole pond, reaching all the extremities. One slight stir in any part of the pond stirs the whole pond, influences the entire field of water, and its surroundings. Similarly, by every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation." - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi TM Power: Tapping the untapped source of power that lies within http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y http://tinyurl.com/42ggy3y To this day, I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems with spiritual practice can be traced back to that moment of mistaking the basic nature of the universe as hierarchical, rather than relational. According to what I've read, one of the demonstrable powers claimed by TM is the "Maharishi effect." According to TM scientists: "collective meditation causes changes in a fundamental, unified physical field, and...those changes radiate into society and affect all aspects of society for the better"... Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you mentioned, Rama thought that the study of relational database was quite beneficial to people on a spiritual path because to become good at it you have to be capable of holding a huge, three-dimensional representation of a hunk of data -- and more importantly the relationships *between* the different parts and types of this hunk of data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex corporate database in your head to be this century's counterpart of Tibetan monks holding whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their heads. I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, but he was right about this one. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I never got into these things, being neither a puzzle nor a game person, but
the fellow I live with in my extended family did. He can solve a normal Rubik's
cube (3x3) in a couple of minutes. What's more interesting is to see him take
on bigger cubes (5x5, 7x7).
I'd love to know what having this level of abstract thinking would be like.
Maybe science can come up with a pill that temporarily makes one capable of
doing a Rubik's in your head, but would you ever want to lose it once you've
had it?
I never really got into gaming, whether that mindset was expressed via chess or
solving complex puzzles. But I *did* get into computer science as a model of
and facilitator of expanding consciousness. The Rama guy I spent some time with
had some interesting theories, some of which I still lean in the direction of.
One of them was that the universe is relational, not hierarchical. To this day,
I am SO down with this. Pretty much ALL of the problems with spiritual practice
can be traced back to that moment of mistaking the basic nature of the universe
as hierarchical, rather than relational.
Anyway, back to that "temporarily capable of ..." thing you mentioned, Rama
thought that the study of relational database was quite beneficial to people on
a spiritual path because to become good at it you have to be capable of holding
a huge, three-dimensional representation of a hunk of data -- and more
importantly the relationships *between* the different parts and types of this
hunk of data -- in your head. He likened being able to hold a complex corporate
database in your head to be this century's counterpart of Tibetan monks holding
whole, three-dimensional mandalas in their heads.
I still agree with him about this. He may have been a crazy fuck, but he was
right about this one.
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re "Set faces to stunned":
I am fully gobsmacked.
The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's
miraculous. Who needs sidhis?
Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either.
And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page
because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also
juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly
talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them
between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they
achieve it.
* I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when
we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at
it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which
made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in
less than a minute.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I never got into these things, being neither a puzzle nor a game person, but the fellow I live with in my extended family did. He can solve a normal Rubik's cube (3x3) in a couple of minutes. What's more interesting is to see him take on bigger cubes (5x5, 7x7). I'd love to know what having this level of abstract thinking would be like. Maybe science can come up with a pill that temporarily makes one capable of doing a Rubik's in your head, but would you ever want to lose it once you've had it? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
I never got into these things, being neither a puzzle nor a game person, but
the fellow I live with in my extended family did. He can solve a normal Rubik's
cube (3x3) in a couple of minutes. What's more interesting is to see him take
on bigger cubes (5x5, 7x7).
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re "Set faces to stunned":
I am fully gobsmacked.
The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's
miraculous. Who needs sidhis?
Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either.
And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page
because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also
juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly
talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them
between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they
achieve it.
* I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when
we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at
it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which
made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in
less than a minute.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? Not this guy for sure, or mindfulness either. And this video may have started something. It popped up on my Facebook page because a friend of mine - who can do Rubik's cubes in his head* and can also juggle - has seen it as a challenge. He reckons himself and a friend, similarly talented, will be able to do seven cubes while juggling and passing them between them. They start practising this week I will post the video if they achieve it. * I know he can do them in his head because we were round someone's house when we were kids and they had a cube and we asked if he could do them. He looked at it for a minute and said he could tell that some stickers had been moved which made us laugh, but then he moved a few around and then did the whole thing in less than a minute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Set faces to stunned...
Re "Set faces to stunned": I am fully gobsmacked. The coordination between brain, hands and cubes is so finely tuned it's miraculous. Who needs sidhis? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/ https://www.facebook.com/EightNinetySeven/videos/10153461649158747/
