[FairfieldLife] Re: Shit, shinola and Rong-Tong Willy

2011-03-14 Thread WillyTex


   It is just b.s. Willy.
  
  Well, I guess emptybill is just empty 
  - no self, no soul-monad, nobody.
 
emptybill:
 But then who needs a god when there's Wrong-tong 
 Willy?

Very impressive, emptybill - how did you get so
full of your self?

   You're professing like a rong-tong.
   No wonder that you assert that you don't exist.
   No wonder that you assert that nothing exists.
   It is just b.s. Willy.
   Go study shen-tong/zhentong maadhyama.
   Yer just a wrong-tong at this point.
  
  Well, I guess emptybill is just empty - no
  self, no soul-monad, nobody.
 
  But, you'd think that someone studying under a
  high Tibetan lama would have something more to
  say about the Foundations of Tibetan Buddhism.
 
  Go figure.
 
   All truth is relative is an absolutist
   statement.
  
  Neither from itself nor from another,
  Nor from both,
  Nor without a cause,
  Does anything whatever, anywhere arise.
 
emptybill:
 So how can you live with yourself knowing
 you're just a lie?

Because there is no 'self' and no 'truth' to
arise?
   
Can you figure that out, Bill? It's so simple
that I thought you'd get it, since you're
studying Mahayana Buddhism under a high lama.
   
So, let's take it from the top:
   
Change is impossible; things do not move hither
and yon; one thing does not become another thing.
   
Suffering, actions, bodies, doers, and results
are all unreal. The Seven States of Conciousness
are also unreal. There is neither suffering nor
its causation nor a path to its cessation. The
three gunas are unreal and there is neither the
Movement, nor the Technique, nor the Maharishi.
   
Excerpt from mahAyAna sutra lAnkarA:
   
Pure conciousness is the only Reality. By its
nature, it is Self-luminous. (XIII, 13). Thus
shaking off duality, he directly percieves the
Absolute which is the unity underlying phenomena
(dharmadAtu). (VI, 7) Sharma, p. 112-113
   
Read more:
   
Subject: vijnApti matratA siddhi by vasAabAndhu
Author: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: February 8, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/4z6r939
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Shit, shinola and Rong-Tong Willy

2011-03-14 Thread emptybill
Go wiki the shen-tong/rong-tong difference for
Tibetan madhyamaka-s.

You'll see similarities between brahman-atman
and buddha-jñana/buddha-gunas even among the
bauddha-s that you love to quote.

However, you represent yourself here as a rong-tong-pa
even when you don't know the difference between
empty-of-self versus empty-of-other.

As you like to say ... go fig-ur.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:

It is just b.s. Willy.
   
   Well, I guess emptybill is just empty
   - no self, no soul-monad, nobody.
  
 emptybill:
  But then who needs a god when there's Wrong-tong
  Willy?
 
 Very impressive, emptybill - how did you get so
 full of your self?

You're professing like a rong-tong.
No wonder that you assert that you don't exist.
No wonder that you assert that nothing exists.
It is just b.s. Willy.
Go study shen-tong/zhentong maadhyama.
Yer just a wrong-tong at this point.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Shit, shinola and Rong-Tong Willy

2011-03-14 Thread WillyTex


emptybill:
 However, you represent yourself here as a 
 rong-tong-pa even when you don't know the 
 difference between empty-of-self versus 
 empty-of-other...
 
There is no rong-tong-pa or shin-tong-pa;
those are just points-of-view. You're not an 
emptybill with your mind so full of ideas. 

All the buddhas have said that emptiness
Definitely eliminates all viewpoints.
Those who have the view of emptiness
Are said to be incurable. - Nagarjuna 

Mulamadhyamakakarika 13.8



[FairfieldLife] Re: Shit, shinola and Rong-Tong Willy

2011-03-14 Thread emptybill

 There is no rong-tong-pa or shin-tong-pa;
 those are just points-of-view.

Yep, now it can be told. Ain't no rongtong, ain't no
shentong, it's jus' Willy preachin' to the Lamas `bout
his buddy-jñana.

Well WikiWilly, I'm afraid we've exceeded your capacity to discuss this.
You are just repeating the same POV over and over.

To use a North Texas expression … You can lead a horse to the
tank but you can't make him sing Donizetti Belle Canto.

***


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:

 emptybill:
  However, you represent yourself here as a
  rong-tong-pa even when you don't know the
  difference between empty-of-self versus
  empty-of-other...
 
 There is no rong-tong-pa or shin-tong-pa;
 those are just points-of-view. You're not an
 emptybill with your mind so full of ideas.

 All the buddhas have said that emptiness
 Definitely eliminates all viewpoints.
 Those who have the view of emptiness
 Are said to be incurable. - Nagarjuna

 Mulamadhyamakakarika 13.8






[FairfieldLife] Re: Shit, shinola and Rong-Tong Willy

2011-03-13 Thread emptybill

Yep, like the Dalai Lama sez ... I'm just an eternally wandering bindu
composed of prana and manas and I'm just drifting from body to body. But
then he's a Rong-tong-pa and fer him it's all compost. Guess
he's listening to you Willy.

No self, No soul, No nutin' but nutin'. To bad fer me `cause
I only got Wrong-tong WikiWilly to direct me to the Nutin'.

Can a Shen-tong-pa like me find salvation listening to a Wrong-tong like
WikiWilly?

But then who needs a god when there's Wrong-tong Willy?









--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:

 emptybill:
  You're professing like a rong-tong.
  No wonder that you assert that you don't exist.
  No wonder that you assert that nothing exists.
  It is just b.s. Willy.
  Go study shen-tong/zhentong maadhyama.
  Yer just a wrong-tong at this point.
 
 Well, I guess emptybill is just empty - no
 self, no soul-monad, nobody.

 But, you'd think that someone studying under a
 high Tibetan lama would have something more to
 say about the Foundations of Tibetan Buddhism.

 Go figure.

  All truth is relative is an absolutist
  statement.
 
 Neither from itself nor from another,
 Nor from both,
 Nor without a cause,
 Does anything whatever, anywhere arise.

   emptybill:
So how can you live with yourself knowing
you're just a lie?
   
   Because there is no 'self' and no 'truth' to
   arise?
  
   Can you figure that out, Bill? It's so simple
   that I thought you'd get it, since you're
   studying Mahayana Buddhism under a high lama.
  
   So, let's take it from the top:
  
   Change is impossible; things do not move hither
   and yon; one thing does not become another thing.
  
   Suffering, actions, bodies, doers, and results
   are all unreal. The Seven States of Conciousness
   are also unreal. There is neither suffering nor
   its causation nor a path to its cessation. The
   three gunas are unreal and there is neither the
   Movement, nor the Technique, nor the Maharishi.
  
   Excerpt from mahAyAna sutra lAnkarA:
  
   Pure conciousness is the only Reality. By its
   nature, it is Self-luminous. (XIII, 13). Thus
   shaking off duality, he directly percieves the
   Absolute which is the unity underlying phenomena
   (dharmadAtu). (VI, 7) Sharma, p. 112-113
  
   Read more:
  
   Subject: vijnApti matratA siddhi by vasAabAndhu
   Author: Willytex
   Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
   Date: February 8, 2005
   http://tinyurl.com/4z6r939