[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.

2007-11-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Those are some violent fantasies you have there.  You might want to
 get that checked.  In the meantime I'll put you down for a no for
 any evidence in your corner other than shop worn claims from 1960's
 editions of I'm a Badass Karate Guy magazine. And I'm gunna put 
 you down for a no about ever sparring with a boxer also.
 
 You believe in magic and I don't. Pretty simple really. 
 
  READ MY LIPS:
  If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after 
  one strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not 
  watching a legitimate martial art
 
 Read mine: One video of your claim, or even a convincing first 
 person account. All the bluff and bluster doesn't hide your lack 
 of evidence for your claim.  Meanwhile I have provided actual 
 videos of a karate guy's inability to do what you claim, and 
 there are many, many more. 
 
 I do enjoy how riled up you get though.  Must be all that: pure
 transcendental consiousness.

As I've suggested before in this thread, I 
think that it's a *perfect* analog of the
way that TMers believe that their technique
is the best, and that the ME creates 
invincibility.

It's all CLAIMS, with nothing to back them
up. You really can't argue with those who
*believe* the claims, because they believe
them so thoroughly. They'll repeat the claims
over and over and over and over, without ever
offering a shred of real proof, and at the
end of the exchange, they'll declare that 
they won the argument.

But all they're doing is repeating a buncha
claims that got claimed to them.

Pussy martial artists, pussy spiritual seekers.
Parallel? You decide.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.

2007-11-26 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As I've suggested before in this thread, I 
  think that it's a *perfect* analog of the
  way that TMers believe that their technique
  is the best, and that the ME creates 
  invincibility.
 
 *Some* TMers.

The ones in charge.  The ones who set TM doctrine.  If you worked at
MUM and declared you didn't believe the above, Bevan would fire you
immediately.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Those are some violent fantasies you have there.  You might want to
get that checked.  In the meantime I'll put you down for a no for
any evidence in your corner other than shop worn claims from 1960's
editions of I'm a Badass Karate Guy magazine. And I'm gunna put you
down for a no about ever sparring with a boxer also.

You believe in magic and I don't. Pretty simple really. 

 READ MY LIPS:
 If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after one 
 strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not watching a 
 legitimate martial art

Read mine: One video of your claim, or even a convincing first person
account. All the bluff and bluster doesn't hide your lack of evidence
for your claim.  Meanwhile I have provided actual videos of a karate
guy's inability to do what you claim, and there are many, many more. 

I do enjoy how riled up you get though.  Must be all that: pure
transcendental consiousness.

I'm glad you have pride in your chosen martial art.  I can relate to that.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I am very familiar with full contact tournaments.  They have many 
 more
  rules than a mixed martial arts matches.  It is a great sport.  But 
 we
  started the discussion about actual fighting without rules about
  takedowns.  One punch one kill is a fantasy perpetuated by people 
 who stay our of the Octagon. 
 
 
 You do not understand martial arts Curtis
 
 A Shotakan fighter will likely not PUNCH you in a REAL fight where it 
 REALLY mattered. 
 
 In less than a SPLIT second...
 
 You will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your head. 
 You WILL be dead. 
 Or, you will bet the force of a foot THROUGH your chest. 
 You will be dead.
 Or, you will bet the force of a foot THROUGH your stomache. 
 You will be close to dead.
 Or, you will get the force of a foot breaking your knees open, then 
 as you collapse, you will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH 
 your head. You WILL be dead. 
 Or, you will get the force of a foot breaking your ankles up, then as 
 you collapse, you will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your 
 head. You WILL be dead. 
 Or, you will get that punch you never expected with the full force of 
 a massively trained body and speed behind it that goes THROUGH your 
 chest like a freight-train. You will be dead.
 Or you will be swept OFF your feet completely before you know where 
 you are, and then as you collapse, you will get a force of a hard 
 bone foot THROUGH your head. You WILL be dead. 
 
 If any one of these does not kill you, you will be knocked so hard it 
 will take time to recover, then, its too late, bacause the second 
 blow comes in a split second and you will be dead.
 
 You have no idea of the bone shattering power a Shotokan fighter is 
 trained to givewith his foot or fist, and you will not be able to 
 guess which one it might be and where it will land. You let EVEN ONE 
 blow through, and the chances are you will not recover, the next blow 
 kills you.
 
 And those above do not count the numerous spots on the body that the 
 Shotokan fighter KNOWS are specific and almost certain KILL spots.
 
 You just don't get it Curtis. 
 
 READ MY LIPS:
 If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after one 
 strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not watching a 
 legitimate martial art. IF the fighters carry on, then it is because 
 they do not understand that a blow with full SHotokan power, will 
 likely break a bone or collapse an organ.
 
 That is why Shotokan sparring stops after one blow. You cannot 
 measure this killing power in some stupid TV show, because people 
 would die. It is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous thing to the 
 Shotokan experts to carry on a fight after one or two blows. It is a 
 laughable joke, and if people have told you they cannot kill you with 
 one or two blows, you are SERIOUSLY misled. You do not remotely 
 understand martial arts Curtis.
 
 
 the Hitting someone who doesn't want to get hit
  is actually very hard.  Ever spar with a boxer? 
 
 
 Boxing is a joke. The boxer in a real fight would be dead. There are 
 techniques that even a black belt in Shotokan (never mind the 5th and 
 6th dan guys), that would COMPLETELY baffle and throw a boxer off and 
 before the guy knows what happened he would be gently laid to the 
 ground, flat out, with a hard bone of a heel coming towards his face 
 at an unprecedented speed. If it were carried through, that bone 
 would break the guys skull.
 
 Curtis, you just don't get it.  A true expert in shotokan will take 
 down 95% of the others in a split second, but the other baboons keep 
 fighting as if nothing happened. 
 LOL...it is a joke. 
 You know nothing about the bone shattering power of a single well 
 placed kick, which could land anywhere on your body. And that does 
 not even