[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Can the new TMO since the passing away of Maharishi afford ($) to keep the archives of Maharishi in Vlodrop? It might be better to place them in a public institution, like a special collection at Harvard or Oxford libraries or some place like that for safe-keeping for future generations. Jai Guru Dev, -BuckLEnglish5@... wrote : Harvard or Oxford? What would they want with it there? Unless the boiler needs a bit of fuel. I suspect you are over-valuing the objective quality of the material. I think the preservation of beloved religious texts is up to the devotees of the groups concerned. It's shame that Marshy didn't follow Elron's footsteps and tax everyone 20% of their wages like in $cientology as the TMO would have enough money for a nice little library by now. All the publications the UK TMO ever made are in dusty boxes in the loft in Skelmersdale. I know because I put them there. There doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for public display. I'm sure Maharishi would have said we should carry the knowledge inside us and demonstrate it with our glowing and enlightened persona's. To that end, I'm quitting work early and going down the pub.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
Fear not, a brand new 4 storey beautiful Vastu building for this purpose has just been completed in Vlodrop. All texts and videos goes in there. Pic coming soon. Salyavin, Son for as intellectually negative as you seem want to be scholarship loves this kind of material in collections safe-kept, accessioned, and archived for use in later research as to what was going on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Salyavin, Son for as intellectually negative as you seem want to be scholarship loves this kind of material in collections safe-kept, accessioned, and archived for use in later research as to what was going on. Like is going on now with the study of primary documents of Mormonism and Mormons. Or Yogananda's movement. Vivekananda. Emerson and Thoreau. It becomes extremely interesting as social science study in to the progression of human nature. Academically it is important to save the source material now for later use in scholarship while it is together whole and before it gets parted out or edited. -Buck in the Dome Oh I see! They're creating a sociological study of outrageous belief systems, I can understand that. I forwarded John Hagelin's last yagya scam video to a few knowledgeable people and they thought it was hilarious. Somebody should definitely be cataloguing this stuff so a study could be done into how abuses of scientific principles are passed off as justification for religious beliefs and, most importantly, screwing donations out of the faithful. I mean it most sincerely. The people should be warned. Can the new TMO since the passing away of Maharishi afford ($) to keep the archives of Maharishi in Vlodrop? It might be better to place them in a public institution, like a special collection at Harvard or Oxford libraries or some place like that for safe-keeping for future generations. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck LEnglish5@... wrote : In FFL #405213Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands Salyavin808 responds: Harvard or Oxford? What would they want with it there? Unless the boiler needs a bit of fuel. I suspect you are over-valuing the objective quality of the material. I think the preservation of beloved religious texts is up to the devotees of the groups concerned. It's shame that Marshy didn't follow Elron's footsteps and tax everyone 20% of their wages like in $cientology as the TMO would have enough money for a nice little library by now. All the publications the UK TMO ever made are in dusty boxes in the loft in Skelmersdale. I know because I put them there. There doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for public display. I'm sure Maharishi would have said we should carry the knowledge inside us and demonstrate it with our glowing and enlightened persona's. To that end, I'm quitting work early and going down the pub. Harvard or Oxford? What would they want with it there? Unless the boiler needs a bit of fuel. I suspect you are over-valuing the objective quality of the material. I think the preservation of beloved religious texts is up to the devotees of the groups concerned. It's shame that Marshy didn't follow Elron's footsteps and tax everyone 20% of their wages like in $cientology as the TMO would have enough money for a nice little library by now. All the publications the UK TMO ever made are in dusty boxes in the loft in Skelmersdale. I know because I put them there. There doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for public display. I'm sure Maharishi would have said we should carry the knowledge inside us and demonstrate it with our glowing and enlightened persona's. To that end, I'm quitting work early and going down the pub.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
Why would you think that it would? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling?? Original document: ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws, achtergrond en verdieping http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws,... http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a De stichting stimuleert de beoefening van Transcendente Meditatie (TM) volgens de leer van Maharishi Mahesh. Hiertoe is door de stichting in Lelystad een woonwijk gerealiseerd. View on www.accountancynieuws.nl http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a Preview by Yahoo English translation: ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling?? Original document: ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws, achtergrond en verdieping http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws,... http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a De stichting stimuleert de beoefening van Transcendente Meditatie (TM) volgens de leer van Maharishi Mahesh. Hiertoe is door de stichting in Lelystad een woonwijk gerealiseerd. View on www.accountancynieuws.nl http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a Preview by Yahoo English translation: ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded. Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I feel like my babel fish just died
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling?? English translation: ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded. Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I feel like my babel fish just died My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the community, and lost. In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
I'd say that this ruling indicates the universality and impartiality of the ME.
Obviously not every person and not every segment of the TMO is 100% fully
developed.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
English translation:
ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn
27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI
status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation.
That is the verdict court northernNetherlands came recently. According to the
court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the
participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental
Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this
purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the
maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and
vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and
all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution
payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit
institution (ANBI)of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked.
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with itsactivities, the
private consumption interests of the participantsmainly. To personal
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial
effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not
establish that the general interest of90% or more (quantitative test) served by
the activities of thefoundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.
Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I
feel like my babel fish just died
My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization.
The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there.
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the
community, and lost.
In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As
Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling?? English translation: ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded. Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I feel like my babel fish just died My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the community, and lost. In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked? Thanks for that, it certainly seems they don't have much luck these days what with all the legal fees etc. It must be most perplexing for them, being as they are in the vicinity of yog. One could begin to get sceptical
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
salyavin, are you still doing TM every day?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
English translation:
ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn
27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI
status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation.
That is the verdict court northernNetherlands came recently. According to the
court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the
participants. The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental
Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this
purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the
maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and
vegetarian restaurant. Participants rent a house or buy. The participants and
all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution
payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit
institution (ANBI)of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked.
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with itsactivities, the
private consumption interests of the participantsmainly. To personal
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial
effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not
establish that the general interest of90% or more (quantitative test) served by
the activities of thefoundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.
Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I
feel like my babel fish just died
My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet,but
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization.
The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there.
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the
community, and lost.
In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. AsMichael
points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?
Thanks for that, it certainly seems they don't have much luck these days what
with all the legal fees etc. It must be most perplexing for them, being as they
are in the vicinity of yog.
One could begin to get sceptical
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