[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Just a few points. 1. A political ideology literally means a belief system or a set of doctrines about why and how to govern through political power. Agreed. 2. Is a doctrine of power that defines and formulates all national and personal values what you are looking to implement in peoples lives? Will this save us from ourselves because somehow we can't possibly find it on our own without these doctrines or beliefs? A political party defines itself by its ideology. In the USA, when voting or campaigning for a candidate a person aligns with a party or candidate that reflects his or her political ideology. The party that wins an election gets to implement its ideology through the agency of government which is responsible for making and enforcing laws governing society. As far as I know only Libertarians believe government should have little or no role at all in keeping order in society. No matter the governing ideology, not everyone will agree with the ideology of who ever happens to be in power. Fortunately, in the USA, every two years we can vote to throw the bums out. No matter how imperfect our system of government is, and I'll be the first to complain about it, it's what we have. So, I do what I can to be an informed citizen and participate in the process as best I can. I'm just thankful I live in the USA where I still have free speech and the right to vote. 3. I don't contend that we are pawns of the gods but rather that immense beings of real potency and actuality seek to influence human minds and human destiny. They don't usually intervene directly because intervening in human affairs directly or even by proxy would entangle them in the endless vagaries of karmic causality. Oh my, get ready for a royal slam from Barry! It's his avowed duty to revile Veda Thumpers. I suspect what you say about immense beings may be true, but I have no experience of such events. Do you? The best example of this is the mountain spirit yhvh, protector of the Jews. If you'll remember, he directed his people to mass murder all of the inhabitants of 60 walled cities and towns in Canaan, not even allowing them to keep any cattle. This means they murdered all the babies, children and women all slaughtered by the sword, sliced to pieces. For directing this brutality,yhvh was engulfed in a matrix of karmic reactions and ended up having to take birth as one of his own servants - as a Jew in a life where inwardly he felt he possessed a deiform status but was powerless to stop the dreadful karmic repercussions which felled him. If this sounds strange to you then please remember that the fact that he was apotheosized by the X-gens means that we were given interpretive veils to shield us from even considering suchideas. (I have heard x-gens rationalize that since their little god created these condemned souls he could exterminate them where and when he wished.) Love epic stories. Did it really happen? Don't know. Karma is a bitch. 4. The foundation for taking bodhisattva vows is known as bodhichitta an awakened heart. Bodhi means wakeful, chitta means personal consciousness or heart awareness. (Yoga Sutra 3.34) Without an awakened heart no one can realistically commit to taking bodhisattva vows. Bodhisattva vows, however, are immeasurably important because they establish a karmic connection across many lifetimes and create a yogic directionality that supersedes our own personal karma (i.e. karma based upon mere causality.) Thanks for the primer on Bodhisattva basics. I really enjoy your writing. I feel you, brother. You're all heart. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: EB, if I understand you correctly, you're saying the gods are as crazy for political power as we are, so in the larger scheme of things, and since it's all about the shark's bite, (raping) there's no point in taking sides. O.K. it's a bit obtuse and I get that, but I'm still curious about *why* you posted Rabinowitz's article. I agree, no matter the endless misery gods or humans bring upon themselves, everyone, not just those who have taken bodhisattva vows, have a responsibility to help everyone find happiness and freedom from suffering. The question is, since everyone has a different idea about the causes of happiness and causes leading to suffering, how do we go about helping others without getting wrapped up in taking sides? At the heart of every political ideology there is a desire to alleviate suffering but eventually it falls short, ends up as a struggle for power, implodes, and makes way for a new ideology. The pendulum swings from left to right, attempting homeostasis somewhere in the center. Ideologies operate in the relative life, in the field of change, in disagreements, of taking sides and war. Maharishi's great gift to the
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear And it shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe And he keeps it, ah, out of sight Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe So there's never, never a trace of red Bertold Brecht According to Ralph von Wau Wau it's all part of the application of political power - whether hits, misses, strident ideology or just opportunism. According to Mahatma Propagandhi, Joseph Goebbels, it is loyalty to the people, loyalty to the idea, loyalty to the movement, and loyalty to the master guide! Which side are you on is usually the final question before either joining someone's political theater or, instead, getting executed. As for either politicos or devas/asuras, I'm not on anyone's side but most assuredly I'm not on the side of immense beings whose leisure and amusement is to play out their designs in the human realm. This of course sounds like fantasy to most people. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: I don't get what the inhabitants of subtle worlds has to do with Rabinowitz's not so subtle hit piece on Obama. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Whether I agree or disagree ... isn't it still the shark's bite?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear And it shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe And he keeps it, ah, out of sight Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe So there's never, never a trace of red Bertold Brecht According to Ralph von Wau Wau it's all part of the application of political power - whether hits, misses, strident ideology or just opportunism. According to Mahatma Propagandhi, Joseph Goebbels, it is loyalty to the people, loyalty to the idea, loyalty to the movement, and loyalty to the master guide! Which side are you on is usually the final question before either joining someone's political theater or, instead, getting executed. As for either politicos or devas/asuras, I'm not on anyone's side but most assuredly I'm not on the side of immense beings whose leisure and amusement is to play out their designs in the human realm. Nice post, and excellent last paragraph above, EB. That's my position with regard to Veda-thumpers. They'd like to have it both ways...that the wars, petty ego squabbles and genocides that fill the pages of the Vedic literature they equate with Truth are all metaphors, and not to be taken at face value, but at the same time if they project something like one of the verses suggesting that man can achieve faster-than-lightspeed and travel to other planets, that is Truth Incarnate. :-) The fascinating thing to me when dealing with Veda-thumpers is that they really don't see that the actions of the gods and goddesses described in its pages are *completely human*. Wars are fought and whole tribes are exterminated because some guy boinked someone else's old lady, or ran off with some other god's sacred cow. It's Soap Opera In The Sky. And we're supposed to believe that these petty, completely-ruled-by-emotion, jealous-of-each-other assholes run the fuckin' universe, and that we should not only believe that they are In Charge of our lives but *revere* them for being In Charge by praying to them and offering them shit they want, like rice and ghee and off-key chanting? At least the Christian God is an old fart who mainly sits on a throne and strokes His long, hoary beard and lets His son do the dirty work for Him. In their mythology He doesn't go running around trying to pork other people's wives. If one had to believe that some immense being was In Charge, better this one than the petty gods and goddesses of Brahmaloka in my opinion. This of course sounds like fantasy to most people. It sounds like fantasy to me, too. What is fascin- ating is that there are some -- even on this forum -- who accept it as not only reality but the Ultimate Reality. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear And it shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe And he keeps it, ah, out of sight Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe So there's never, never a trace of red Bertold Brecht Ugh. That really gunks up the Blitzstein translation: Oh, the shark has pretty teeth, dear And he shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has Macheath, dear And he keeps it out of sight When the shark bites with his teeth, dear Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, though, wears Macheath, dear So there's not a trace of red But the original German is so much better: Und der Haifisch, der hat Zähne Und die trägt er im Gesicht Und Macheath, der hat ein Messer Doch das Messer sieht man nicht Ach, es sind des Haifischs Flossen Rot, wenn dieser Blut vergießt Mackie Messer trägt 'nen Handschuh Drauf man keine Untat liest Last verse (usually omitted in the popular versions): Und die minderjährige Witwe Deren Namen jeder weiß Wachte auf und war geschändet Mackie, welches war dein Preis? Literal translation: And the underage widow Whose name everyone knows Woke up and was [found she had been] raped Mack, what was your price [did you charge]? Bertolt Brecht himself singing, 1928: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QXJ3OXWaOY
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear And it shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe And he keeps it, ah, out of sight Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe So there's never, never a trace of red Bertold Brecht According to Ralph von Wau Wau it's all part of the application of political power - whether hits, misses, strident ideology or just opportunism. According to Mahatma Propagandhi, Joseph Goebbels, it is loyalty to the people, loyalty to the idea, loyalty to the movement, and loyalty to the master guide! Which side are you on is usually the final question before either joining someone's political theater or, instead, getting executed. As for either politicos or devas/asuras, I'm not on anyone's side but most assuredly I'm not on the side of immense beings whose leisure and amusement is to play out their designs in the human realm. This of course sounds like fantasy to most people. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I don't get what the inhabitants of subtle worlds has to do with Rabinowitz's not so subtle hit piece on Obama. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Whether I agree or disagree ... isn't it still the shark's bite? EB, if I understand you correctly, you're saying the gods are as crazy for political power as we are, so in the larger scheme of things, and since it's all about the shark's bite, (raping) there's no point in taking sides. O.K. it's a bit obtuse and I get that, but I'm still curious about *why* you posted Rabinowitz's article. I agree, no matter the endless misery gods or humans bring upon themselves, everyone, not just those who have taken bodhisattva vows, have a responsibility to help everyone find happiness and freedom from suffering. The question is, since everyone has a different idea about the causes of happiness and causes leading to suffering, how do we go about helping others without getting wrapped up in taking sides? At the heart of every political ideology there is a desire to alleviate suffering but eventually it falls short, ends up as a struggle for power, implodes, and makes way for a new ideology. The pendulum swings from left to right, attempting homeostasis somewhere in the center. Ideologies operate in the relative life, in the field of change, in disagreements, of taking sides and war. Maharishi's great gift to the world and gift from other enlightened beings who have graced our planet, leads us to Being, uniting us on the level of consciousness, and making us responsible for own happiness. I'll buy that over a political ideology, any day. That said, I'm still willing to take a stand for a political ideology that I believe can best serve our country at this point in time. The bottom line for me is that we have to learn how to work the nuts and bolts of political machinery as best we can so we can avoid driving our economy, educational system, health care, etc, etc, over a cliff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
Actually the old man on a throne is one of the images of Zeus Pantokrator and also its derivative Christ Pantocrator. This is the idea/eidos of God we get from the x-gen bible. YHVH was initially just a mountain protector-deity later universalized by the Hebrews once they encountered Platonism. The ancient Greek and Hindu deities were more like actors playing out a drama with humans and each other. We could call it local cosmos opera or get fancy and call it Lila. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: At least the Christian God is an old fart who mainly sits on a throne and strokes His long, hoary beard and lets His son do the dirty work for Him. In their mythology He doesn't go running around trying to pork other people's wives. If one had to believe that some immense being was In Charge, better this one than the petty gods and goddesses of Brahmaloka in my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
Just a few points. 1. A political ideology literally means a belief system or a set of doctrines about why and how to govern through political power. 2. Is a doctrine of power that defines and formulates all national and personal values what you are looking to implement in peoples lives? Will this save us from ourselves because somehow we can't possibly find it on our own without these doctrines or beliefs? 3. I don't contend that we are pawns of the gods but rather that immense beings of real potency and actuality seek to influence human minds and human destiny. They don't usually intervene directly because intervening in human affairs directly or even by proxy would entangle them in the endless vagaries of karmic causality. The best example of this is the mountain spirit yhvh, protector of the Jews. If you'll remember, he directed his people to mass murder all of the inhabitants of 60 walled cities and towns in Canaan, not even allowing them to keep any cattle. This means they murdered all the babies, children and women all slaughtered by the sword, sliced to pieces. For directing this brutality,yhvh was engulfed in a matrix of karmic reactions and ended up having to take birth as one of his own servants - as a Jew in a life where inwardly he felt he possessed a deiform status but was powerless to stop the dreadful karmic repercussions which felled him. If this sounds strange to you then please remember that the fact that he was apotheosized by the X-gens means that we were given interpretive veils to shield us from even considering suchideas. (I have heard x-gens rationalize that since their little god created these condemned souls he could exterminate them where and when he wished.) 4. The foundation for taking bodhisattva vows is known as bodhichitta an awakened heart. Bodhi means wakeful, chitta means personal consciousness or heart awareness. (Yoga Sutra 3.34) Without an awakened heart no one can realistically commit to taking bodhisattva vows. Bodhisattva vows, however, are immeasurably important because they establish a karmic connection across many lifetimes and create a yogic directionality that supersedes our own personal karma (i.e. karma based upon mere causality.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: EB, if I understand you correctly, you're saying the gods are as crazy for political power as we are, so in the larger scheme of things, and since it's all about the shark's bite, (raping) there's no point in taking sides. O.K. it's a bit obtuse and I get that, but I'm still curious about *why* you posted Rabinowitz's article. I agree, no matter the endless misery gods or humans bring upon themselves, everyone, not just those who have taken bodhisattva vows, have a responsibility to help everyone find happiness and freedom from suffering. The question is, since everyone has a different idea about the causes of happiness and causes leading to suffering, how do we go about helping others without getting wrapped up in taking sides? At the heart of every political ideology there is a desire to alleviate suffering but eventually it falls short, ends up as a struggle for power, implodes, and makes way for a new ideology. The pendulum swings from left to right, attempting homeostasis somewhere in the center. Ideologies operate in the relative life, in the field of change, in disagreements, of taking sides and war. Maharishi's great gift to the world and gift from other enlightened beings who have graced our planet, leads us to Being, uniting us on the level of consciousness, and making us responsible for own happiness. I'll buy that over a political ideology, any day. That said, I'm still willing to take a stand for a political ideology that I believe can best serve our country at this point in time. The bottom line for me is that we have to learn how to work the nuts and bolts of political machinery as best we can so we can avoid driving our economy, educational system, health care, etc, etc, over a cliff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
Another Attack, Another Miss Posted by Michael Chase On June - 9 - 2010 [600] http://mariopiperni.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Dartboard-Fox.jpg . Dorothy Rabinowitz is up with a powerful, resonant, deeply moving pile of shit http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487033026045752942316313187\ 28.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories in the Wall Street Journal. Her opening gives a writer's perfect prelude to the contrived theme of her hatchet-job: The deepening notes of disenchantment with Barack Obama now issuing from commentators across the political spectrum were predictable. So, too, were the charges from some of the president's earliest enthusiasts about his failure to reflect a powerful sense of urgency about the oil spill. It is one of our democracy's great curiosities that the opinions of the punditocracy are always assumed to be that of their readers. In the ultimate self-fulfilling prophesy, commentators like Ms. Rabinowitz, tell their readers what the reader's opinions ought to be. A few days later, Fox News will commision a poll and, et voila! the opinions match. Her piece goes on to rehash the same old tired arguments; that President Obama hasn't been passionate about the spill, that he doesn't reflect American outrage, that he isn't really one of us. It's title is The Alien in the White House. Oh Ms. Rabinowitz hedges her bets, she is after all a coward. A breathless aside to delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe, conveniently insulates her from the birthers; but that demented fringe is her target audience. She follows Rubert Murdoch's formula; create an image of the President out of thin air, tell the reader or viewer that everyone believes it, throw in some thinly constructed and barely relevant anecdotes that seem to augment the horseshit, then print. Her first example of President Obama's distance from Americans is priceless: One of his first reforms was to rid the White House of the bust of Winston Churchilla gift from Tony Blair The new administration had apparently found no place in our national house of many rooms for the British leader who lives on so vividly in the American mind. Churchill, face of our shared wartime struggle, dauntless rallier of his nation who continues, so remarkably, to speak to ours. For a president to whom such associations are alien, ridding the White House of Churchill would, of course, have raised no second thoughts. Wow. I like Winston Churchill. We shall fight them on the beaches we shall never surrender! Great stuff! But the man who was the face of our wartime struggle was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You know, the President that the right wing has been trying to bury under a pile of Glenn Beck's feces. Of course Ms. Rabinowitz might point out she was talking of our shared wartime struggle. And I would remind her that she was slandering the President of the United States. We fought the British twice to get rid of their busts; it isn't immediately apparent why it would be unpatriotic to send one back now. If that still doesn't convince her, I would remind her that it was Roosevelt who had to first battle the United States Republican Party to get the Lend Lease Act passed. That would be the pre-war support we gave the Brits that kept them around long enough for Winston to make his great speeches. Churchill does have some relevance to our current predicament though. He took over Great Britain with that country in a bad way; and he wasn't privy to how bad it really was until he was in the seat. Ms. Rabinowitz represents an intellectual class that is bereft of intellectual ability. Her collaborators spent years pushing the democracy out of banks, mines, and oil rigs. Now, when all three have blown up in their faces, Ms. Rabinowitz and her bankrupt intellectual class want swift action from the democracy. The democracy, that is, and its leader, President Barack Obama. That she and others like her must kneel and beg his assistance is a blow to their ego; a blow reminiscent of a teenager admitting his parent's point. And so in anger at their misfortune, and humiliation at needing the public's help, Ms. Rabinowitz and her barely cogent mob are reduced to 'round the corner sniping and barely concealed cheap shots. This disaster will see its conclusion, not because of the capabilities of industry, but because of the power, will, and intellect of a nation pulling together. The harness of that power is something we citizens like to call the government. That government's leader, elected (whether Ms. Rabinowitz likes it or not) with a mandate by the people of the United States, is President Obama. When industry can't handle the problem, the government of we the people can. Mr. Obama is a very capable leader and this will get fixed; but like Churchill before him, when the Nazis have already taken the Low Countries, it will take some
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
emptybill, did you post this because you agreed with it, or because you found it ridiculous? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: The Alien in the White House The distance between the president and the people is beginning to be revealed. By DOROTHY RABINOWITZ http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=DOROTHY+RABINOWITZbyli\ nesearch=true The deepening notes of disenchantment with Barack Obama now issuing from commentators across the political spectrum were predictable. So, too, were the charges from some of the president's earliest enthusiasts about his failure to reflect a powerful sense of urgency about the oil spill. There should have been nothing puzzling about his response to anyone who has paid even modest critical attention to Mr. Obama's pronouncements. For it was clear from the first that this presidentsingle-minded, ever-visible, confident in his program for a reformed America saved from darkness by his arrivalwas wanting in certain qualities citizens have until now taken for granted in their presidents. Namely, a tone and presence that said: This is the Americans' leader, a man of them, for them, the nation's voice and champion. Mr. Obama wasn't lacking in concern about the oil spill. What he lacked was that voiceand for good reason. Those qualities to be expected in a president were never about rhetoric; Mr. Obama had proved himself a dab hand at that on the campaign trail. They were a matter of identification with the nation and to all that binds its people together in pride and allegiance. These are feelings held deep in American hearts, unvoiced mostly, but unmistakably there and not only on the Fourth of July. A great part of America now understands that this president's sense of identification lies elsewhere, and is in profound ways unlike theirs. He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class. He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe. One of his first reforms was to rid the White House of the bust of Winston Churchilla gift from Tony Blairby packing it back off to 10 Downing Street. A cloudlet of mystery has surrounded the subject ever since, but the central fact stands clear. The new administration had apparently found no place in our national house of many rooms for the British leader who lives on so vividly in the American mind. Churchill, face of our shared wartime struggle, dauntless rallier of his nation who continues, so remarkably, to speak to ours. For a president to whom such associations are alien, ridding the White House of Churchill would, of course, have raised no second thoughts. Far greater strangeness has since flowed steadily from Washington. The president's appointees, transmitters of policy, go forth with singular passion week after week, delivering the latest inversion of reality. Their work is not easy, focused as it is on a current prime preoccupation of this White Housethat is, finding ways to avoid any public mention of the indisputable Islamist identity of the enemy at war with us. No small trick that, but their efforts go forward in public spectacles matchless in their absurdityunnerving in what they confirm about our current guardians of law and national security. Consider the hapless Eric Holder, America's attorney general, confronting the question put to him by Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas) of the House Judicary Committee on May 13. Did Mr. Holder think that in the last three terrorist attempts on this soil, one of them successful (Maj. Nidal Hasan's murder of 13 soldiers at Fort Hood, preceded by his shout of Allahu Akbar!), that radical Islam might have played any role at all? Mr. Holder seemed puzzled by the question. People have different reasons he finally answereda response he repeated three times. He didn't want to say anything negative about any religion. And who can forget the exhortations on jihad by John Brennan, Mr. Obama's chief adviser on counterterrorism? Mr. Brennan has in the past charged that Americans lack sensitivity to the Muslim world, and that we have particularly failed to credit its peace-loving disposition. In a May 26 speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Mr. Brennan held forth fervently, if not quite comprehensibly, on who our enemy was not: Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is just a tactic. Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind, and as Americans we refuse to live in fear. He went on to announce, sternly, that we do not refer to our enemies as Islamists or jihadists because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam. How then might we be permitted to describe our enemies? One hint comes from
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
Whether I agree or disagree ... isn't it still the shark's bite? Politics is simply the application of power. There is neither wisdom nor truth within this domain - much less morality. This is true also of the subtle worlds and of the inhabitants of those realms whether they are residents or transients. There are many more jiva-s in these subtle realms than are presently incarnated here. An unbiased direct perception of local cosmography finds that p0litics (the application of power) is fully operational there just as it is here. Here in our local sandbox, just in this last century, an estimated 250-350 million humans were slaughtered because of ideology. Immense of that seems, it is just a firefly's flicker in the noonday sunlight of bhu-mandala. As a result, it is this little earth, along with the myriad beings appearing here, which seems to me to be ridiculous. Is spite of this, for those who have taken bodhisattva vows, all of these numberless beings become our responsibility. Our responsibility means to help everyone find happiness and the causes of happiness - to find freedom from suffering and the causes which lead to it. EB --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: emptybill, did you post this because you agreed with it, or because you found it ridiculous? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: The Alien in the White House The distance between the president and the people is beginning to be revealed. By DOROTHY RABINOWITZ The deepening notes of disenchantment with Barack Obama now issuing from commentators across the political spectrum were predictable. So, too, were the charges from some of the president's earliest enthusiasts about his failure to reflect a powerful sense of urgency about the oil spill.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Whether I agree or disagree ... isn't it still the shark's bite? Well, I dunno what that means, other than that you're not going to answer my question.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Alien in the White House
I don't get what the inhabitants of subtle worlds has to do with Rabinowitz's not so subtle hit piece on Obama. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Whether I agree or disagree ... isn't it still the shark's bite? Politics is simply the application of power. There is neither wisdom nor truth within this domain - much less morality. This is true also of the subtle worlds and of the inhabitants of those realms whether they are residents or transients. There are many more jiva-s in these subtle realms than are presently incarnated here. An unbiased direct perception of local cosmography finds that p0litics (the application of power) is fully operational there just as it is here. Here in our local sandbox, just in this last century, an estimated 250-350 million humans were slaughtered because of ideology. Immense of that seems, it is just a firefly's flicker in the noonday sunlight of bhu-mandala. As a result, it is this little earth, along with the myriad beings appearing here, which seems to me to be ridiculous. Is spite of this, for those who have taken bodhisattva vows, all of these numberless beings become our responsibility. Our responsibility means to help everyone find happiness and the causes of happiness - to find freedom from suffering and the causes which lead to it. EB --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: emptybill, did you post this because you agreed with it, or because you found it ridiculous? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: The Alien in the White House The distance between the president and the people is beginning to be revealed. By DOROTHY RABINOWITZ The deepening notes of disenchantment with Barack Obama now issuing from commentators across the political spectrum were predictable. So, too, were the charges from some of the president's earliest enthusiasts about his failure to reflect a powerful sense of urgency about the oil spill.
