[FairfieldLife] Re: The Danger of Community

2015-06-22 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 cult
 

 1. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular 
figure or object.
 

 2. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices 
regarded by others as strange or sinister.
 

 synonyms: sect, denomination, group, movement, church, persuasion, body, 
faction
 

 3. a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
 

 synonyms: obsession with, fixation on, mania for, passion for, idolization of, 
devotion to, worship of, veneration of
 

 Now that the banished person on FFL who devoted a considerable amount of free 
time energy to explaining that the TM org is a cult is gone, and that 
observation indicates approximately half the active members of FFL are still 
under the influence of cult-like thought patterns; now that that person has 
been eliminated, we should see an increase in docile, cult-like behaviour on 
FFL, and a lowering of the level of intelligent discussion. (That is an 
hypothesis by the way, not a truth)
 

 There was a scientific paper written in 1984 by neuroscientist Michael 
Persinger titled Striking EEG Profiles from Single Episodes of Gossolalia and 
Transcendental Meditation in which he wrote:
 

 'Transient, focal, epileptic-like changes in the temporal lobe, without 
convulsions, have been hypothesised to be primary correlates of religious 
experiences. Given these properties, direct measurement of these phenomena 
within the laboratory should be rare. However, two illustrated instances have 
been recorded. The first case involved the occurrence of a delta-wave-dominant 
electoral seizure for about 10 sec. from the temporal lobe only of a 
Transcendental Meditation teacher during a peak experience within a routine TM 
episode. The second case involved the occurrence of spikes within the temporal 
lobe only during protracted intermittent episodes of glossolalia [speaking in 
tongues] by a member of a Pentecostal sect. Neither subject had any psychiatric 
history. These observations are commensurate with the hypothesis that religious 
experiences are natural correlates of temporal lobe transients that can be 
detected by routine EEG measures.'
 

 Persinger is a cognitive neuroscientist, and his theories of religious 
experience have received some criticism; he is of the belief that strong 
magnetic field can induce religious experiences, but his research has not been 
convincingly replicated.
 

 More of note Persinger wrote a book with two other authors in 1980 called TM 
and Cult Mania in which he investigated the efficacy of TM.
 

 'TM and Cult Mania takes a look at the assertions made by the Transcendental 
Meditation movement and analyses them from a scientific perspective. The book 
acknowledges that those who practice the Transcendental Meditation technique 
feel relaxed and experience an increase in creativity. According to the book, 
the physiological effects reported by the scientific studies on Transcendental 
Meditation are relatively small from a scientific perspective and no more 
effective than many other meditation techniques. Transcendental Meditation is 
seen as most noteworthy due to its ability to manipulate stress and expectancy.'
 

 The authors concluded 'Transcendental Meditation has achieved international 
recognition through commercial exploitation' and 'poor scientific procedures ' 
and that 'the reported effects of TM upon human behaviour are trivial. 
Considering the alleged potency of the TM procedure, the changes in 
physiological and behavioural measures are conspicuously minute'. TM and Cult 
Mania comes to the conclusion that, 'science has been used as a sham for 
propaganda by the TM movement.'
 

 The book was criticised by some because Persinger associated religious beliefs 
and spiritual practices with mental illness, that he cast spiritual interests 
under a cloud of psychopathology.
 

 Having been on FFL now for about four years, I think that psychopathy is quite 
evident on this Yahoo group, and that now that the Buck persona seems to be in 
charge of the way things go, that pathology of cult behaviour will intensify 
unless there are enough counterbalancing voices that are not suppressed, to 
keep this mental illness from spreading.
 

 Now I have practiced TM into my fifth decade, and as is known here, I seem to 
have some slight sociopathic tendencies. These tendencies have increased 
through the practice of TM. I feel the changes are positive, but they can be 
described in negative language. Loss of the small self can be described as 
'depersonalisation' which is as good a tag as any. The persona gets thrown out 
from the centre of your life to the periphery, where it becomes an object, like 
trees and rocks. Everything in the universe becomes an object, and 
consciousness or awareness becomes the subject, and disappears from view.
 

 During most of the practice though, before this 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Danger of Community

2015-06-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
 

 (megasnip)
 

 The problem with FFL now is that happy grandiose state is being forced from 
without rather than from within each of us, trying to create a happy 
problem-free state without having to face any of the issues such as the real 
veracity of the spiritual path, depersonalisation, ego, bad science, magical 
thinking, various sorts of personal bias, deep seated fears, and our own 
snarky, sniping behaviours which in the past have surfaced repeatedly.
 

 Except that, um, no such state is being forced from without.
 

 (megasnip)
 

 If you are comfortable in a community, because of what they say, you have not 
yet found out anything. You need to be independent of groupthink, and question 
everything you hold dear and sacred, because none of it is true.
 
 

 This applies to every member of FFL, not just the purported cultists, right?