[FairfieldLife] Re: The End is Near
Let's hope there isn't an afterlife, it'd be an embarrassing conversation trying to explain to all the other denizens of the universe what happened if we destroy the whole of existence. We just just wanted to see what it looked like ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Stephen Hawking has become a prophet of doom. He warns that the Higgs Boson could become unstable and wipe out the entire universe. http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The End is Near
Salyavin, Come to think of it, Hawking may have sown the seeds of a new theory in the expansion of the universe. IMHO, it's possible that the Higgs Boson could become unstable eons from now when the galaxies at the edge of the universe reach the speed of light. As such, all of those galaxies would dissipate and melt away into nothing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Let's hope there isn't an afterlife, it'd be an embarrassing conversation trying to explain to all the other denizens of the universe what happened if we destroy the whole of existence. We just just wanted to see what it looked like ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Stephen Hawking has become a prophet of doom. He warns that the Higgs Boson could become unstable and wipe out the entire universe. http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: -snip- Heaven will walk on earth in this generation. - Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar or something very special.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
- Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar or something very special. It was the greatest good fortune for all mankind, that I decided to come out. Maharishi Vedic Science course India 1980 The man was so obsessed with how special he was that his final request was for many phallic monuments built in his honor and in his name. He believed that his message would enlighten more people than Buddha. The pernicious myth of Maharishi being humble in any way is absurd spin. He spent his whole life telling people how wonderful he was. He was one of our generations biggest self promoters. His false humility act from time to time fooled you did it Nabby?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar or something very special. It was the greatest good fortune for all mankind, that I decided to come out. Maharishi Vedic Science course India 1980 The man was so obsessed with how special he was that his final request was for many phallic monuments built in his honor and in his name. He believed that his message would enlighten more people than Buddha. The pernicious myth of Maharishi being humble in any way is absurd spin. He spent his whole life telling people how wonderful he was. He was one of our generations biggest self promoters. His false humility act from time to time fooled you did it Nabby? the Maharishi always spoke from his vantage point of non-dual awareness; Being, Unity. As such, there cannot be any attempt by him at being special- there is no other for purposes of comparison. Only duality can accomplish such a thing. Humility expressed in the state of non-dual awareness is again appropriate because a being in such a state would not wish to harm or denigrate himself, any more than any of us would. to listen to the Maharishi from the perspective of duality, as an other, a person will always be left with the impression that the Maharishi's ego was bigger than theirs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: -snip- Heaven will walk on earth in this generation. - Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar or something very special. If you look at the official Tradition of Masters' painting he commissioned, MMY is the only human standing, the only guy in white and the only one making offerings to someone else (Gurudev). He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism. Lawson He was the only living guy. That was the difference. We have about one million hours of Maharishi claiming to be representing this tradition in all its fullness. I have never heard him ever utter the slightest hint that he believed your interpretation. He thought of himself as the most important person of history. Guru Dev's greatest accomplishment (according to Maharishi himself) was to have made Maharishi. Maharishi loved Maharishi more than any of his sycophants could have. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: -snip- Heaven will walk on earth in this generation. - Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar or something very special. If you look at the official Tradition of Masters' painting he commissioned, MMY is the only human standing, the only guy in white and the only one making offerings to someone else (Gurudev). He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
Curtis wrote: Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. There is no government in communism. Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism. Lawson He was the only living guy. That was the difference. We have about one million hours of Maharishi claiming to be representing this tradition in all its fullness. I have never heard him ever utter the slightest hint that he believed your interpretation. He thought of himself as the most important person of history. Guru Dev's greatest accomplishment (according to Maharishi himself) was to have made Maharishi. Maharishi loved Maharishi more than any of his sycophants could have. is that such a bad thing though, to love yourself the most? Who else are you going to love the most?
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2008-10-02
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. One of the problems of this claimed intention is that in the first stage, in the pre-communism stage, the socialist stage, of which both Lenin, Stalin and Mao said is made viable by the barrel of a gun, those ensconced in the infrastructure of that socialist paradigm wind up not wanting to give up their hold upon society and their bureaucratic comforts ... AVARICE! The same problem that caused the need for revolution against either socio-economic exploitation or the incestuous fornication between imperial governance and religious stupidification of the masses -- an incestuous fornication conjugating the rape of humanity. The same winds up happening as the imperial state of supposed comrades of the revolution. Communism demonstrates its a butt-scratcher's serenade of selective stupidification and opportunistic hypocrisy by forcing material wave and values to be the sole determinant of human worth ... the new paradigm doing the same old crap, and worse, to the masses and necessitates that any creativity, all the colorful splendors of human expression and thresholds of excellence are enemies of the state and enemies of the ideology. Marx himself may have been a humanitarian in search of a solution, particularly of exploitation of jews, whereas the psychodynamics, the reactionary disposition for constructing his theory wove its own ideological insufficiency and the perpetuity that anything that did not hold fast to the material wave and the communist ideology was an enemy, even inventiveness for doing a job better or making more vitally dynamic hybrid crops that could endure Russian winters. To the gulag for such good progressive work! More here: http://prout-compared.shows.it/ http://PROUT-Compared.shows.it/ http://prout-compared.shows.it/ Flourishingly, Satya Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Curtis wrote: Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. There is no government in communism. Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BillyG. wrote: As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power So the sky is falling, chicken little? Your comrades have been running around saying that for the past week whereas in prior weeks economy was doing fine. It looks like you can't have if both ways. You want a free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there is no bailout. But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to be free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else. So when their assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, i.e. the bailout: let big government and their taxpayers bailout the rich. So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged sword. :-D I think we need socialism if you want a global economy. It is best managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular person or group can control it. Make it truly transparent and responsible to the people. Note this to manage the commons or what should remain in the public domain. Those things are best managed by government. Whereas government has no business running small business. It makes no sense and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some capitalism which should suit you and your small business just fine. Government will limit how big and powerful you can become. We are seeing now what happens when you turn the world over to the greedy. Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near! Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 The world has witnessed the rise and fall of monarchy, the rise and fall of dictatorship, the rise and fall of feudalism, the rise and fall of communism, and the rise of democracy; and now we are witnessing the fall of democracy... the theme of the evolution of life continues, sweeping away with it all that does not blossom into perfection. - Maharishi, on the evolutionary direction of Natural Law, 1998
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 Spoken like the man he was, one of the least informed humans on earth. Was he a reader? No, like George Bush he didn't feel a need to read. Where did he get his news? From sycophants whose proximity to the Master was determined by the amount of smoke they could blow up his ass. No negative news was ever allowed. Every piece of news was evaluated for how it reflected the success of Maharishi's trademarked products. When he attended his own symposiums with actual learned people,did he spend some time learning from them No, through bullying and a bit of hairy Sarah Palin cuteness, he would avoid ever actually interacting with a detailed view from his speakers. He preferred to find a word that rhymed with one of his buzz words and spend his time in self-satisfied giggling at how clever he was. His view on communism was the perspective of a rich, uneducated idiot. If he had bothered to crack a newspaper he would see how his beloved communism would have dealt with him. This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: BillyG. wrote: As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power So the sky is falling, chicken little? Your comrades have been running around saying that for the past week whereas in prior weeks economy was doing fine. It looks like you can't have if both ways. You want a free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there is no bailout. But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to be free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else. So when their assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, i.e. the bailout: let big government and their taxpayers bailout the rich. So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged sword. :-D I think we need socialism if you want a global economy. It is best managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular person or group can control it. Make it truly transparent and responsible to the people. Note this to manage the commons or what should remain in the public domain. Those things are best managed by government. Whereas government has no business running small business. It makes no sense and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some capitalism which should suit you and your small business just fine. Government will limit how big and powerful you can become. We are seeing now what happens when you turn the world over to the greedy. Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover.. What it lacks is the understanding of human nature. People who don't see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard. And politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist country we know about has proven. The collapse of communism and the rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven the flaws in communism. That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these countries. You know, people with their eyes opened. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?
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First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover. For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:31 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover.. What it lacks is the understanding of human nature. People who don't see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard. And politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist country we know about has proven. The collapse of communism and the rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven the flaws in communism. That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these countries. You know, people with their eyes opened. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: SNIP Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
snip But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by Steve Drucker. But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the text books we used. So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work. Countries that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist counties often voted for those changes. You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the difference between communism and socialism. So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-) The only super power in the world is having economic trouble. It will ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the world's economy. We will weather this storm as we have many others and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us all)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by Steve Drucker. Who said MIU wasn't/isn't a kindergarten ? But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the text books we used. Written by americans no doubt. So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work. Countries that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist counties often voted for those changes. Aha. Please explain whether Chile under Allende was a soscialist or communist country. According to your opinion that is, not something you read in a book. You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the difference between communism and socialism. So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism. He used that word beacuse thats what He meant. How difficult is that to understand ? The thinkers were communists. Soscialists did not shape those thoughts. Marx and Engels did. That's why. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-) The only super power in the world is having economic trouble. It will ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the world's economy. We will weather this storm as we have many others and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us all) Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social- democratic society, you are finished.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover. For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill. I would wager that Sir Winston Churchill knew the difference between alluded and eluded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near! Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 The world has witnessed the rise and fall of monarchy, the rise and fall of dictatorship, the rise and fall of feudalism, the rise and fall of communism, and the rise of democracy; and now we are witnessing the fall of democracy... the theme of the evolution of life continues, sweeping away with it all that does not blossom into perfection. - Maharishi, on the evolutionary direction of Natural Law, 1998 Very good quote. Thanks for posting this Rick.
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nablusoss1008 wrote: Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social- democratic society, you are finished. And just in time for this debate. The Communist Manifesto Turns 160: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081013/ehrenreich
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nablusoss1008 wrote: Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social- democratic society, you are finished. And just in time for this debate. The Communist Manifesto Turns 160: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081013/ehrenreich Nice. I might add; Embrace your brother, here there and everywhere, now! Or peril. Capitalism is a product of the past. It will soon go. Heaven will walk on earth in this generation. - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Heaven will walk on earth in this generation. - Maharishi I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Jesus was a communist. Get an education before you rant your ignorance all over the world. OffWorld
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2008-10-01
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Argue, arguing, argued. Staticity is the anchor upon which we do such things. While we may be, at least seemingly, sincere in our efforts to find a solution, an organic solution that lasts, beyond the morphings of time, place and person, we are using outmoded methods of exploring and presenting our points, points anchored in statiticy and clung to with vanity, conceit, deceit and protective that the constant present-day drunken stupor of complacency is anchored in the static pablum of unchallenged avarice. What is the best form of economy? What is the best form of governance? People search for what has, or is believed to have gone before in human society, yet the search by anyone nearly never goes beyond the trial and error of what history has recorded having been invented by the limited parameters of the human mind, and much of history is rife with baffles and blinders preventing the people of some societies from even acknowledging the existence of other cultures, past or present, or their excellencies in providing solutions that may be applied today across cultural lines to solve the incongruities and psycho-social diseases, ubiquitous or rare, within any given society today. Where can we find truly meaningful answers to the questions above? Whatever can be, whatever is possible, including a healthy human society, healthy in every realm of life, including economically, in life forms and life force, and politically is possible for all things possible have happened, are happening and will continue to happen everywhere at all times in the universe. How do we manifest the most expeditious experience of every realm of life, both human and beyond, to bring forth the most sublime experience possible here on Earth, and beyond? What works is already expressed in nature. Both plants and animals eat only as much as is necessary [aparigraha], maintain their health through appropriate -- for their species -- asanas, socialize for the most part, and attend to each other in both healing and nurturing, even when they do not have the same parents. Nature contains, in many different ways, the continuity or continuities that demonstrate what will work for a progressively forward-moving society where humans, and even other beings, can evolve in realms and in manners resplendent for their growth in every realm of life. With such awareness and with a continuum toward such fulfillment the paradigm of PROUT, or the Progressive Utilization Theory [http://PROUT.shows.it/]. Why do people still cling to the unconscionably beastly monster of communism as a desirable and admirable ideology, based upon reactionary dynamics, of which a new violent polar and perpendicular contrarianism, reactivism must result to defeat its exploitative and dehumanising essence. For true peace to prevail, for sentient peace to prevail, every realm of human existence, and the wellbeing of all animate beings and even inanimate objects must be accorded proper respect and maximum utilization of their potentialities within this very lifetime so they may attain the most sublime possibilities, most sublime thresholds in their evolutionary progression -- for humans that would be mukti/moksa, neither of which are relevant in either communism or capitalism. It's not profitable for capitalists [one less consumer and unresellable], and it does not comport with the solely materialistic measure of life in communism. PROUT gives full scope to the mundane, supramundane, physical, metaphysical, psychic and spiritual potentialities of the universe. Compare and contrast here: http://PROUT-Compared.shows.it/ http://prout-compared.shows.it/, presented for the wellbeing and benefit of all. Flourishingly, Satya *Human society is at a vital new juncture, * *the decrepit skeleton of things tried and * *proven false is rapidly being rent asunder. * *Today we are on the precipice of a glorious* *new dawn in human evolution. Embrace this* *crimson dawn of the glorious new day. * On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by Steve Drucker. Who said MIU wasn't/isn't a kindergarten ? But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the text books we used. Written by americans no doubt. So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work. Countries that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist counties often voted for those changes. Aha. Please explain whether Chile under Allende was a soscialist or communist country. According to your opinion that is, not something you read