[FairfieldLife] Re: The End is Near

2014-09-08 Thread salyavin808
Let's hope there isn't an afterlife, it'd be an embarrassing conversation 
trying to explain to all the other denizens of the universe what happened if we 
destroy the whole of existence. 

 We just just wanted to see what it looked like
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Stephen Hawking has become a prophet of doom.  He warns that the Higgs Boson 
could become unstable and wipe out the entire universe.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html







[FairfieldLife] Re: The End is Near

2014-09-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Salyavin, 

 Come to think of it, Hawking may have sown the seeds of a new theory in the 
expansion of the universe.  IMHO, it's possible that the Higgs Boson could 
become unstable eons from now when the galaxies at the edge of the universe 
reach the speed of light.  As such, all of those galaxies would dissipate and 
melt away into nothing.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Let's hope there isn't an afterlife, it'd be an embarrassing conversation 
trying to explain to all the other denizens of the universe what happened if we 
destroy the whole of existence. 

 We just just wanted to see what it looked like
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Stephen Hawking has become a prophet of doom.  He warns that the Higgs Boson 
could become unstable and wipe out the entire universe.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/stephen-hawking-god-particle-could-163109712.html










[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 -snip- 
  Heaven will walk on earth in this generation.
  - Maharishi
 
 I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha

Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar 
or something very special.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread curtisdeltablues

   - Maharishi
  
  I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha
 
 Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar 
 or something very special.

It was the greatest good fortune for all mankind, that I decided to
come out.

Maharishi Vedic Science course India 1980

The man was so obsessed with how special he was that his final request
was for many phallic monuments built in his honor and in his name.

He believed that his message would enlighten more people than Buddha.

The pernicious myth of Maharishi being humble in any way is absurd
spin.  He spent his whole life telling people how wonderful he was. 
He was one of our generations biggest self promoters.  

His false humility act from time to time fooled you did it Nabby? 








[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
- Maharishi
   
   I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha
  
  Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of 
avatar 
  or something very special.
 
 It was the greatest good fortune for all mankind, that I decided 
to
 come out.
 
 Maharishi Vedic Science course India 1980
 
 The man was so obsessed with how special he was that his final 
request
 was for many phallic monuments built in his honor and in his name.
 
 He believed that his message would enlighten more people than 
Buddha.
 
 The pernicious myth of Maharishi being humble in any way is absurd
 spin.  He spent his whole life telling people how wonderful he 
was. 
 He was one of our generations biggest self promoters.  
 
 His false humility act from time to time fooled you did it Nabby? 
 
 
the Maharishi always spoke from his vantage point of non-dual 
awareness; Being, Unity. As such, there cannot be any attempt by him 
at being special- there is no other for purposes of comparison. Only 
duality can accomplish such a thing. 

Humility expressed in the state of non-dual awareness is again 
appropriate because a being in such a state would not wish to harm 
or denigrate himself, any more than any of us would.

to listen to the Maharishi from the perspective of duality, as 
an other, a person will always be left with the impression that 
the Maharishi's ego was bigger than theirs.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  -snip- 
   Heaven will walk on earth in this generation.
   - Maharishi
  
  I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha
 
 Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar 
 or something very special.


If you look at the official Tradition of Masters' painting he commissioned, MMY
is the only human standing, the only guy in white and the only one making 
offerings to someone else (Gurudev).


He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not a direct 
part
of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism.

Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
 He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not
a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism.
 
 Lawson

He was the only living guy.  That was the difference.  We have about
one million hours of Maharishi claiming to be representing this
tradition in all its fullness.  I have never heard him ever utter the
slightest hint that he believed your interpretation.  He thought of
himself as the most important person of history.  Guru Dev's greatest
accomplishment (according to Maharishi himself) was to have made
Maharishi.  Maharishi loved Maharishi more than any of his sycophants
could have.












--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   -snip- 
Heaven will walk on earth in this generation.
- Maharishi
   
   I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha
  
  Probably. Maharishi never refferred to himself as some sort of avatar 
  or something very special.
 
 
 If you look at the official Tradition of Masters' painting he
commissioned, MMY
 is the only human standing, the only guy in white and the only one
making 
 offerings to someone else (Gurudev).
 
 
 He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's not
a direct part
 of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual symbolism.
 
 Lawson





[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote:
 Communism involves the violent overthrowing 
 of the ruling class by the working class.

There is no government in communism. 

Communism is a socioeconomic structure that 
promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, 
classless, stateless society based on common 
ownership of the means of production and 
property in general.  

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  He's also a bit away from theriver of knowledge, to show he's 
not
 a direct part of the Tradition, or so I interpret the visual 
symbolism.
  
  Lawson
 
 He was the only living guy.  That was the difference.  We have 
about
 one million hours of Maharishi claiming to be representing this
 tradition in all its fullness.  I have never heard him ever utter 
the
 slightest hint that he believed your interpretation.  He thought of
 himself as the most important person of history.  Guru Dev's 
greatest
 accomplishment (according to Maharishi himself) was to have made
 Maharishi.  Maharishi loved Maharishi more than any of his 
sycophants
 could have.
 
 
is that such a bad thing though, to love yourself the most? Who else 
are you going to love the most?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-02 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that
promotes the establishment of an egalitarian,
classless, stateless society based on common
ownership of the means of production and
property in general.



One of the problems of this claimed intention is that in the first stage, in
the pre-communism stage, the socialist stage, of which both Lenin, Stalin
and Mao said is made viable by the barrel of a gun, those ensconced in the
infrastructure of that socialist paradigm wind up not wanting to give up
their hold upon society and their bureaucratic comforts ... AVARICE! The
same problem that caused the need for revolution against either
socio-economic exploitation or the incestuous fornication between imperial
governance and religious stupidification of the masses -- an incestuous
fornication conjugating the rape of humanity. The same winds up happening as
the imperial state of supposed comrades of the revolution. Communism
demonstrates its a butt-scratcher's serenade of selective stupidification
and opportunistic hypocrisy by forcing material wave and values to be the
sole determinant of human worth ... the new paradigm doing the same old
crap, and worse, to the masses and necessitates that any creativity, all the
colorful splendors of human expression and thresholds of excellence are
enemies of the state and enemies of the ideology. Marx himself may have been
a humanitarian in search of a solution, particularly of exploitation of
jews, whereas the psychodynamics, the reactionary disposition for
constructing his theory wove its own ideological insufficiency and the
perpetuity that anything that did not hold fast to the material wave and the
communist ideology was an enemy, even inventiveness for doing a job better
or making more vitally dynamic hybrid crops that could endure Russian
winters. To the gulag for such good progressive work! More here:
http://prout-compared.shows.it/
http://PROUT-Compared.shows.it/ http://prout-compared.shows.it/

Flourishingly,

Satya

Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable
thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace
to society.



On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Curtis wrote:
  Communism involves the violent overthrowing
  of the ruling class by the working class.
 
 There is no government in communism.

 Communism is a socioeconomic structure that
 promotes the establishment of an egalitarian,
 classless, stateless society based on common
 ownership of the means of production and
 property in general.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist


[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BillyG. wrote:
  As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the
  World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power
 So the sky is falling, chicken little?  Your comrades have been 
running 
 around saying that for the past week whereas in prior 
weeks economy was 
 doing fine.  It looks like you can't have if both ways.  You want 
a 
 free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there 
is no 
 bailout.  But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to 
be 
 free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else.  So when 
their 
 assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, 
i.e. 
 the bailout:  let big government and their taxpayers bailout the 
rich.  
 So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged 
 sword.  :-D
 
 I think we need socialism if you want a global economy.  It is 
best 
 managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular 
person or 
 group can control it.  Make it truly transparent and responsible 
to the 
 people.  Note this to manage the commons or what should remain 
in the 
 public domain.  Those things are best managed by government.  
Whereas 
 government has no business running small business.  It makes no 
sense 
 and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some 
capitalism 
 which should suit you and your small business just fine.   
Government 
 will limit how big and powerful you can become.  We are seeing now 
what 
 happens when you turn the world over to the greedy.


Communism is the most intelligent political system

- Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:37 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

 

Communism is the most intelligent political system

- Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982

The world has witnessed the rise and fall of monarchy, the rise and fall of
dictatorship, the rise and fall of feudalism, the rise and fall of
communism, and the rise of democracy; and now we are witnessing the fall of
democracy... the theme of the evolution of life continues, sweeping away
with it all that does not blossom into perfection. 
- Maharishi, on the evolutionary direction of Natural Law, 1998



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
 
 Communism is the most intelligent political system
 
 - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982

Spoken like the man he was, one of the least informed humans on earth.

Was he a reader?  No, like George Bush he didn't feel a need to read.

Where did he get his news?  From sycophants whose proximity to the
Master was determined by the amount of smoke they could blow up his
ass.  No negative news was ever allowed.  Every piece of news was
evaluated for how it reflected the success of Maharishi's trademarked
products.

When he attended his own symposiums with actual learned people,did he
spend some time learning from them  No, through bullying and a bit of
hairy Sarah Palin cuteness, he would avoid ever actually interacting
with a detailed view from his speakers.  He preferred to find a word
that rhymed with one of his buzz words and spend his time in
self-satisfied giggling at how clever he was.  

His view on communism was the perspective of a rich, uneducated idiot.  

If he had bothered to crack a newspaper he would see how his beloved
communism would have dealt with him.

This statement is Maharishi at his worst.  I am surprised that Nabby
gets so much joy posting it.  Let me guess, you don't actually know
people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby?





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  BillyG. wrote:
   As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the
   World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: 
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power
  So the sky is falling, chicken little?  Your comrades have been 
 running 
  around saying that for the past week whereas in prior 
 weeks economy was 
  doing fine.  It looks like you can't have if both ways.  You want 
 a 
  free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there 
 is no 
  bailout.  But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to 
 be 
  free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else.  So when 
 their 
  assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, 
 i.e. 
  the bailout:  let big government and their taxpayers bailout the 
 rich.  
  So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged 
  sword.  :-D
  
  I think we need socialism if you want a global economy.  It is 
 best 
  managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular 
 person or 
  group can control it.  Make it truly transparent and responsible 
 to the 
  people.  Note this to manage the commons or what should remain 
 in the 
  public domain.  Those things are best managed by government.  
 Whereas 
  government has no business running small business.  It makes no 
 sense 
  and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some 
 capitalism 
  which should suit you and your small business just fine.   
 Government 
  will limit how big and powerful you can become.  We are seeing now 
 what 
  happens when you turn the world over to the greedy.
 
 
 Communism is the most intelligent political system
 
 - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982





[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  Communism is the most intelligent political system
  
  - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
 
 This statement is Maharishi at his worst.  I am surprised that Nabby
 gets so much joy posting it.  Let me guess, you don't actually know
 people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby?

Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. 
Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual.
That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is 
irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   
   Communism is the most intelligent political system
   
   - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
  
  This statement is Maharishi at his worst.  I am surprised that Nabby
  gets so much joy posting it.  Let me guess, you don't actually know
  people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby?
 
 Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent.

First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean
socialism.  Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling
class by the working class.  Maharishi and all his educated minions
would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in
a communist takeover..

What it lacks is the understanding of human nature.  People who don't
see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard.  And
politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist
country we know about has proven.  The collapse of communism and the
rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven
the flaws in communism.

That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these
countries.  You know, people with their eyes opened.
 
 Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual.
 That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is 
 irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.

So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own
best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need
to be violently overthrown by the workers?  And BTW if the guy who
changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the
revolution, or part of the problem?

But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism
which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread gullible fool


First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean
socialism.  Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling
class by the working class.  Maharishi and all his educated minions
would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in
a communist takeover.

For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:31 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   
   Communism is the most intelligent political system
   
   - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
  
  This statement is Maharishi at his worst.  I am surprised that Nabby
  gets so much joy posting it.  Let me guess, you don't actually
know
  people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby?
 
 Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent.

First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean
socialism.  Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling
class by the working class.  Maharishi and all his educated minions
would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in
a communist takeover..

What it lacks is the understanding of human nature.  People who don't
see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard.  And
politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist
country we know about has proven.  The collapse of communism and the
rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven
the flaws in communism.

That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these
countries.  You know, people with their eyes opened.
 
 Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual.
 That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is 
 irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.

So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own
best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need
to be violently overthrown by the workers?  And BTW if the guy who
changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the
revolution, or part of the problem?

But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism
which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
SNIP

  Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual.
  That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS 
DAY is 
  irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.
 
 So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own
 best self interest and when all the educated people in the world 
need
 to be violently overthrown by the workers?  And BTW if the guy who
 changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the
 revolution, or part of the problem?
 
 But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the 
word Communism
 which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?

From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? 
You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting 
regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to 
low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to 
survive.

Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism
- Maharishi

And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers 
tomorrow morning. ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip
  But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the 
 word Communism
  which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?
 
 From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? 

I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by
Steve Drucker.  But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the
text books we used.  So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my
information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work.  Countries
that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist
counties often voted for those changes.

 You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting 
 regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to 
 low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to 
 survive.

And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the
difference between communism and socialism.

So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and
why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism.

 
 Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism
 - Maharishi
 
 And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers 
 tomorrow morning. ;-)

The only super power in the world is having economic trouble.  It will
ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the
world's economy.   We will weather this storm as we have many others
and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us all) 












[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
   But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the 
  word Communism
   which involves a violent power transfer, rather 
than socialism?
  
  From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? 
 
 I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught 
by
 Steve Drucker.  

Who said MIU wasn't/isn't a kindergarten ?

But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the
 text books we used. 

Written by americans no doubt.

 So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my
 information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work.  Countries
 that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas 
socialist
 counties often voted for those changes.

Aha. Please explain whether Chile under Allende was a soscialist or 
communist country. According to your opinion that is, not something 
you read in a book.

 
  You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting 
  regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to 
  low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to 
  survive.
 
 And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the
 difference between communism and socialism.
 
 So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and
 why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism.

He used that word beacuse thats what He meant. How difficult is that 
to understand ? The thinkers were communists. Soscialists did not 
shape those thoughts. Marx and Engels did. That's why.

  Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism
  - Maharishi
  
  And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers 
  tomorrow morning. ;-)
 
 The only super power in the world is having economic trouble.  It 
will
 ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the
 world's economy.   We will weather this storm as we have many others
 and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us 
all) 

Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social-
democratic society, you are finished.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean
 socialism.  Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling
 class by the working class.  Maharishi and all his educated minions
 would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in
 a communist takeover.
 
 For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill.
  

I would wager that Sir Winston Churchill knew the difference
between alluded and eluded.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:37 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
 
  
 
 Communism is the most intelligent political system
 
 - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
 
 The world has witnessed the rise and fall of monarchy, the rise 
and fall of
 dictatorship, the rise and fall of feudalism, the rise and fall of
 communism, and the rise of democracy; and now we are witnessing the 
fall of
 democracy... the theme of the evolution of life continues, sweeping 
away
 with it all that does not blossom into perfection. 
 - Maharishi, on the evolutionary direction of Natural Law, 1998

Very good quote. Thanks for posting this Rick.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
 Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social-
 democratic society, you are finished.
   
And just in time for this debate.
The Communist Manifesto Turns 160:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081013/ehrenreich



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 nablusoss1008 wrote:
  Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social-
  democratic society, you are finished.

 And just in time for this debate.
 The Communist Manifesto Turns 160:
 http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081013/ehrenreich


Nice.
 
I might add; Embrace your brother, here there and everywhere, now!

Or peril.

Capitalism is a product of the past. It will soon go.


Heaven will walk on earth in this generation.
- Maharishi




[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
-snip- 
 Heaven will walk on earth in this generation.
 - Maharishi

I wonder if he spoke this while sitting down? ha-ha



[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  
Communism is the most intelligent political system
   
- Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
  
   This statement is Maharishi at his worst.  I am surprised that
Nabby
   gets so much joy posting it.  Let me guess, you don't actually
know
   people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby?
 
  Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent.

 First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean
 socialism.  Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling
 class by the working class. 

Jesus was a communist. Get an education before you rant your ignorance
all over the world.

OffWorld






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!

2008-10-01 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Argue, arguing, argued.  Staticity is the anchor upon
which we do such things.  While we may be, at least
seemingly, sincere in our efforts to find a solution,
an organic solution that lasts, beyond the morphings
of time, place and person, we are using outmoded
methods of exploring and presenting our points, points
anchored in statiticy and clung to with vanity,
conceit, deceit and protective that the constant
present-day drunken stupor of complacency is anchored
in the static pablum of unchallenged avarice.

What is the best form of economy?

What is the best form of governance?

People search for what has, or is believed to have
gone before in human society, yet the search by anyone
nearly never goes beyond the trial and error of what
history has recorded having been invented by the
limited parameters of the human mind, and much of
history is rife with baffles and blinders preventing
the people of some societies from even acknowledging
the existence of other cultures, past or present, or
their excellencies in providing solutions that may be
applied today across cultural lines to solve the
incongruities and psycho-social diseases, ubiquitous
or rare, within any given society today.

Where can we find truly meaningful answers to the
questions above?  Whatever can be, whatever is
possible, including a healthy human society, healthy
in every realm of life, including economically, in
life forms and life force, and politically is possible
for all things possible have happened, are happening
and will continue to happen everywhere at all times in
the universe.  How do we manifest the most expeditious
experience of every realm of life, both human and
beyond, to bring forth the most sublime experience
possible here on Earth, and beyond?

What works is already expressed in nature.  Both
plants and animals eat only as much as is necessary
[aparigraha], maintain their health through
appropriate -- for their species -- asanas, socialize
for the most part, and attend to each other in both
healing and nurturing, even when they do not have the
same parents.  Nature contains, in many different
ways, the continuity or continuities that demonstrate
what will work for a progressively forward-moving
society where humans, and even other beings, can
evolve in realms and in manners resplendent for their
growth in every realm of life.  With such awareness
and with a continuum toward such fulfillment the
paradigm of PROUT, or the Progressive Utilization
Theory [http://PROUT.shows.it/].

Why do people still cling to the unconscionably
beastly monster of communism as a desirable and
admirable ideology, based upon reactionary dynamics,
of which a new violent polar and perpendicular
contrarianism, reactivism must result to defeat its
exploitative and dehumanising essence.

For true peace to prevail, for sentient peace to
prevail, every realm of human existence, and the
wellbeing of all animate beings and even inanimate
objects must be accorded proper respect and maximum
utilization of their potentialities within this very
lifetime so they may attain the most sublime
possibilities, most sublime thresholds in their
evolutionary progression -- for humans that would be
mukti/moksa, neither of which are relevant in either
communism or capitalism.  It's not profitable for
capitalists [one less consumer and unresellable], and
it does not comport with the solely materialistic
measure of life in communism.  PROUT gives full scope
to the mundane, supramundane, physical, metaphysical,
psychic and spiritual potentialities of the universe.
Compare and contrast here:
http://PROUT-Compared.shows.it/ http://prout-compared.shows.it/, presented
for the
wellbeing and benefit of all.

Flourishingly,

Satya

 *Human society is at a vital new juncture, *
*the decrepit skeleton of things tried and *
*proven false is rapidly being rent asunder. *
*Today we are on the precipice of a glorious*
*new dawn in human evolution. Embrace this*
*crimson dawn of the glorious new day.
*
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  snip
But I may be wrong.  Tell me why Maharishi uses the
   word Communism
which involves a violent power transfer, rather
 than socialism?
  
   From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ?
 
  I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught
 by
  Steve Drucker.

 Who said MIU wasn't/isn't a kindergarten ?

 But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the
  text books we used.

 Written by americans no doubt.

  So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my
  information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work.  Countries
  that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas
 socialist
  counties often voted for those changes.

 Aha. Please explain whether Chile under Allende was a soscialist or
 communist country. According to your opinion that is, not something
 you read