Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. Now I see they've changed the title of Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri do a Porno to Zack and Miri. Backward prudish America anyway. I went to see it last night. But after 20 minutes I left because the people -- okay, let's call them riff-raff -- around me insisted upon talking. I saw Zack and Miri Do a Porno yesterday afternoon and I was the only riff-raff er person in the auditorium. That's right I had the film all to myself. There's only one thing better than Blu-Ray and that is digital cinema (which this theater has). The film was great fun. I was disappointed in Clerks 2 but Zack and Miri was a great romp with some great gags in it.
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--- On Mon, 11/10/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 9:49 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. I saw W. The most disgusting part of the film that made me audibly groan, and nearly throw a shoe at the screen, was the shameless attempt to rehabilitate Colin Powell's record on Iraq. Coincidentally, the movie's release happened about the same time as his endorsement of Obama. Figures. I haven't seen W. because, although I can't stand Bush, parodies of fools are ridiculous. The truth is much more tragic. Raunch, you don't really believe that Colin Powell and the movie's distributors worked in some sort of coordinated fashion with its release and his endorsement of Obama? Feeling paranoid, perhaps? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- On Mon, 11/10/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw W. The most disgusting part of the film that made me audibly groan, and nearly throw a shoe at the screen, was the shameless attempt to rehabilitate Colin Powell's record on Iraq. Coincidentally, the movie's release happened about the same time as his endorsement of Obama. Figures. I don't believe for a second that the Powell cleansing was timed to go with his endorsement. That seems silly. But as you say, to try to cleanse Powell's role in the scam is pretty low. What I can't figure out is how people still want to jump on the Condie Rice bandwagon, as though she is an up and comer for the Repubs. I see her as totally incompetant and weak. If I were a student at Stanford, I wouldn't stand for her returning there. At least Powell had the courage to resign, even if he capitulated to peer pressure to justify the war.
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This should be fascinating, and I advise anyone who has an enduring interest in politics and the political process to watch it. There was a PBS debate aired a number of years ago that brought together the movers and shakers of the previous election's Presidential campaigns. I sat there watching it mesmerized, because there was clearly only one person on the panel who understood politics. That was Lee Atwater. I may have despised the man's politics, but even I have to admit his genius in the realm of manipulating public opinion. He was literally the only person on the panel who under- stood why the winner won, and the losers lost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story (#2703) TV Schedule: http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=20:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 8:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11-2008start=20:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=21:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 9:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=IPTVdate=11-11-2008start=21:00h ighlight=145_2703 IPTV) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11-2008start=23:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12-2008start=19:30highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 7:30 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12-2008start=19:30 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12-2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12-2008start=23:00 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) A revealing look at the life of the controversial, take-no-prisoners Republican political operative. http://www.iptv.org/series.cfm/145/frontline/ep:2703 In the wake of yet another hard-fought and bitter presidential campaign, FRONTLINE presents a spirited and revealing biography of Lee Atwater, the charming, Machiavellian godfather of modern, take-no-prisoners Republican political campaigns. Through eye-opening interviews with Atwater's closest friends and adversaries, the film explores the life of the controversial political operative who mentored Karl Rove and George W. Bush, led the GOP to historic victories, and wrote the party's winning playbook. The story tracks Atwater's rise from his beginnings in South Carolina as a high school election kingmaker all the way to the White House and his subsequent battle with cancer and final search for forgiveness and redemption. To Democrats, Atwater was a political assassin who one Congresswoman dubbed the most evil man in America, but to Republicans he remains a hero for his deep understanding of the American voter and his unapologetic vision of politics as warfare. Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story Boogie Man is a gripping political thriller about Lee Atwater, a blues-playing rogue whose rambunctious rise from the South to Chairman of the GOP made him a political rock star. He mentored George W. Bush and Karl Rove while leading the Republican party to historic victories, helping make liberal a dirty word, and transforming the way America elects our Presidents. In eye-opening interviews with elite Republicans and friends of Atwater, Boogie Man sheds new light on his crucial role in America's shift to the right. To Democrats offended by the 1988 Willie Horton controversy, Atwater was a remorseless political assassin aptly dubbed by one Congresswoman the most evil man in America. But he remains a hero to many Republicans for his irreverent sense of humor, his deep understanding of the American heartland, and his unapologetic vision of politics as war. This film builds to a moving portrait of a cynic's desperate deathbed search for meaning. After Boogie Man, you won't see American politics the same way again! Jake Tapper of ABC writes: ABC News has learned that Warren Tompkins, one of the strategists of then-Gov. George W. Bush's South Carolina campaign in 2000 -- which Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., blamed for his family being slimed -- is now a part of the McCain-Palin campaign team, albeit in an unofficial role. Tompkins, a protégé of Lee Atwater*, has been dispatched to North Carolina to assess the state for the McCain-Palin campaign, Southern GOP strategists tell ABC News. ... The news of Tompkins being brought on board the McCain campaign brings to a total of three the number of GOP operatives McCain now is using despite the fact
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I'm looking forward to this program. Atwater was a guy I loved to hate. Couldn't stand him. Poisoned the atmosphere of political life, and all that. I remember that after he was stricken with brain cancer, he made a point of calling people he had attacked and vilified, and apologizing for what he did. He apologized also for using that infamous Willie Horton ad, saying it made him, Atwater, look like a racist when he was not. But American politics has not recovered from the kind of style he made fashionable. He left a nasty taste in the collective mouth, deathbed apologies notwithstanding. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should be fascinating, and I advise anyone who has an enduring interest in politics and the political process to watch it. There was a PBS debate aired a number of years ago that brought together the movers and shakers of the previous election's Presidential campaigns. I sat there watching it mesmerized, because there was clearly only one person on the panel who understood politics. That was Lee Atwater. I may have despised the man's politics, but even I have to admit his genius in the realm of manipulating public opinion. He was literally the only person on the panel who under- stood why the winner won, and the losers lost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story (#2703) TV Schedule: http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=20:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 8:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11-2008start=20:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=21:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 9:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=IPTVdate=11-11-2008start=21:00h ighlight=145_2703 IPTV) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11-2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11-2008start=23:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12-2008start=19:30highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 7:30 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12-2008start=19:30 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12-2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12-2008start=23:00 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) A revealing look at the life of the controversial, take-no-prisoners Republican political operative. http://www.iptv.org/series.cfm/145/frontline/ep:2703 In the wake of yet another hard-fought and bitter presidential campaign, FRONTLINE presents a spirited and revealing biography of Lee Atwater, the charming, Machiavellian godfather of modern, take-no-prisoners Republican political campaigns. Through eye-opening interviews with Atwater's closest friends and adversaries, the film explores the life of the controversial political operative who mentored Karl Rove and George W. Bush, led the GOP to historic victories, and wrote the party's winning playbook. The story tracks Atwater's rise from his beginnings in South Carolina as a high school election kingmaker all the way to the White House and his subsequent battle with cancer and final search for forgiveness and redemption. To Democrats, Atwater was a political assassin who one Congresswoman dubbed the most evil man in America, but to Republicans he remains a hero for his deep understanding of the American voter and his unapologetic vision of politics as warfare. Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story Boogie Man is a gripping political thriller about Lee Atwater, a blues-playing rogue whose rambunctious rise from the South to Chairman of the GOP made him a political rock star. He mentored George W. Bush and Karl Rove while leading the Republican party to historic victories, helping make liberal a dirty word, and transforming the way America elects our Presidents. In eye-opening interviews with elite Republicans and friends of Atwater, Boogie Man sheds new light on his crucial role in America's shift to the right. To Democrats offended by the 1988 Willie Horton controversy, Atwater was a remorseless political assassin aptly dubbed by one Congresswoman the most evil man in America. But he remains a hero to many Republicans for his irreverent sense of humor, his deep understanding of the American heartland, and his unapologetic vision of politics as war. This film builds to a moving portrait of
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i think the wisest thing to come out of this documentary is his recognition at the end of his life that fucking over others was maybe not such a cool idea after all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should be fascinating, and I advise anyone who has an enduring interest in politics and the political process to watch it. There was a PBS debate aired a number of years ago that brought together the movers and shakers of the previous election's Presidential campaigns. I sat there watching it mesmerized, because there was clearly only one person on the panel who understood politics. That was Lee Atwater. I may have despised the man's politics, but even I have to admit his genius in the realm of manipulating public opinion. He was literally the only person on the panel who under- stood why the winner won, and the losers lost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story (#2703) TV Schedule: http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11- 2008start=20:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 8:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11- 2008start=20:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11- 2008start=21:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 9:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=IPTVdate=11-11- 2008start=21:00h ighlight=145_2703 IPTV) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-11- 2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Tue, November 11, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HDdate=11-11- 2008start=23:00hig hlight=145_2703 IPTV HD) http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=HD HD (High Definition) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12- 2008start=19:30highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 7:30 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12- 2008start=19:30 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) * http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?date=11-12- 2008start=23:00highlight=145_ 2703 Wed, November 12, 2008 11:00 PM ( http://www.iptv.org/schedule.cfm?channel=CREATEdate=11-12- 2008start=23:00 highlight=145_2703 IPTV Create/World) A revealing look at the life of the controversial, take-no- prisoners Republican political operative. http://www.iptv.org/series.cfm/145/frontline/ep:2703 In the wake of yet another hard-fought and bitter presidential campaign, FRONTLINE presents a spirited and revealing biography of Lee Atwater, the charming, Machiavellian godfather of modern, take-no-prisoners Republican political campaigns. Through eye-opening interviews with Atwater's closest friends and adversaries, the film explores the life of the controversial political operative who mentored Karl Rove and George W. Bush, led the GOP to historic victories, and wrote the party's winning playbook. The story tracks Atwater's rise from his beginnings in South Carolina as a high school election kingmaker all the way to the White House and his subsequent battle with cancer and final search for forgiveness and redemption. To Democrats, Atwater was a political assassin who one Congresswoman dubbed the most evil man in America, but to Republicans he remains a hero for his deep understanding of the American voter and his unapologetic vision of politics as warfare. Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story Boogie Man is a gripping political thriller about Lee Atwater, a blues-playing rogue whose rambunctious rise from the South to Chairman of the GOP made him a political rock star. He mentored George W. Bush and Karl Rove while leading the Republican party to historic victories, helping make liberal a dirty word, and transforming the way America elects our Presidents. In eye-opening interviews with elite Republicans and friends of Atwater, Boogie Man sheds new light on his crucial role in America's shift to the right. To Democrats offended by the 1988 Willie Horton controversy, Atwater was a remorseless political assassin aptly dubbed by one Congresswoman the most evil man in America. But he remains a hero to many Republicans for his irreverent sense of humor, his deep understanding of the American heartland, and his unapologetic vision of politics as war. This film builds to a moving portrait of a cynic's desperate deathbed search for meaning. After Boogie Man, you won't see American politics the same way again! Jake Tapper of ABC writes: ABC News has learned that Warren Tompkins, one of the strategists of then-Gov. George W. Bush's South Carolina campaign in 2000 -- which Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., blamed for his family being slimed -- is now a part of the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesday: The father of Repugnican dirty tricks on IPTV
TurquoiseB wrote: This should be fascinating, and I advise anyone who has an enduring interest in politics and the political process to watch it. There was a PBS debate aired a number of years ago that brought together the movers and shakers of the previous election's Presidential campaigns. I sat there watching it mesmerized, because there was clearly only one person on the panel who understood politics. That was Lee Atwater. I may have despised the man's politics, but even I have to admit his genius in the realm of manipulating public opinion. He was literally the only person on the panel who under- stood why the winner won, and the losers lost. I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. Now I see they've changed the title of Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri do a Porno to Zack and Miri. Backward prudish America anyway. I rented Journey to the Center of the Earth on Blu-Ray which I stopped watching after 20 minutes. Too dumb a script and they pan scanned the original 2:35:1 master. I'm having a debate with people on other forums over this because they thought the 1:85:1 version looked fine but to me the shots were way too tight. I went looking on the disk for extras to see if the camera monitor was set up for 2:35:1 but there were no making of extras and I can't find anything on the filming of it so far. IMDB says the intended aspect ratio was 2:35:1 signifying it was shown in theaters that way. But it was shown in 3D so they may have dumbed down the aspect ratio for a fuller experience (we know how the marketing pukes are). The Blu-Ray BTW was not 3D. Can't imagine them making two versions of the Blu-Ray: one for rental and the other for sales. Weird. I should know not to rent anything PG unless people are screaming from rooftops how good it is.
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I heard the documentary's director interviewed on the radio last weekend. Here are the blurb, URL and transcript: The Dirty South Lee Atwater became one of the most complicated and successful Republican political operatives in history by employing a triple threat; spin when you can, change the subject when you can't and if all else fails mine the voters' resentment, and fear, usually of blacks. Stefan Forbes, director of Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story, explains the dark legacy of Atwater's Southern strategy. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/07/07 BOB GARFIELD: This is On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield. BROOKE GLADSTONE: And I'm Brooke Gladstone. In the history of U.S. politics, it's hard to find a more complicated and influential powerbroker than Lee Atwater. A son of South Carolina, he played blues guitar and politics from an early age and rose to become the wunderkind campaign strategist for such notables as Strom Thurmond, Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush, who eventually made Atwater head of the Republican National Committee. His formula was simple spin when you can, change the subject when you can't, and if all else fails, mine the voters' resentment and fear, especially of black people. Stefan Forbes is the director of a new documentary, Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story. He says Atwater played brilliantly on the smoldering rage of many Southern whites towards the secular, the elite and the intellectual, people who looked down on them. Atwater played that tune so well, he even made it work for the WASPY, wealthy, Northern George Herbert Walker Bush. STEFAN FORBES: And he realized that they could take the party of the rich, of corporations, and turn it into the party of the working man. And he did it brilliantly, by putting Bush Sr. into a cowboy hat, into cowboy boots with a big Texas flag on the side and having him eat pork rinds. He singlehandedly pretty much [LAUGHS] created the Bush dynasty, was a mentor to Karl Rove and taught W. how to campaign. Even from his grave he's been winning elections for the Republican Party. BROOKE GLADSTONE: He singlehandedly created George Herbert Walker Bush. How did he get to him, to begin with? STEFAN FORBES: It's an amazing story. Back in 1972, they have an obscure guy [LAUGHS] running for chairman of the College Republicans from Utah. His name's Karl Rove. Atwater's his campaign manager, and they lose. But Atwater won't accept defeat. They start throwing out ballots, challenging people's right to vote. It gets thrown all the way up the chain to the chairman of the Republican Party, George H. W. Bush, who sees these two hard-knuckled young operatives and gives them the election. And right there, Karl Rove learns from Lee Atwater how to win an election. BROOKE GLADSTONE: And Rove worked with Atwater on Vice-President Bush's 1988 campaign against Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis. At that point, Bush was knee deep in the Iran Contra scandal. He was lagging in the polls. And then Atwater changed the subject with two political ads. The first targeted a Massachusetts prison furlough program, by highlighting a black convict that we all still remember, named Willie Horton. STEFAN FORBES: It's incredible. Back in '88, in that campaign, Ronald Reagan has literally sold arms to terrorists and lied about it on national TV. Atwater was able to change the subject. He found a fairly irrelevant convict that was out on parole, Willie Horton, and made him the focus of that entire campaign. And his own party laughed at him. [CLIP]: ANNOUNCER: His revolving-door prison policy gave weekend furloughs to first degree murderers not eligible for parole. While out, many committed other crimes, like kidnapping and rape. [END CLIP] STEFAN FORBES: Atwater was able to change the subject because he realized that the media is often like a school of fish. They're so anxious to chase the story and the prevailing narrative, that an operative like Atwater is able to use them as an echo chamber. You put something out there that's sticky, you know, the face of this scowling killer, and it can really swamp the whole dialogue on television. BROOKE GLADSTONE: So that first ad peddled fear. The second notorious ad of that campaign also relied on imagery, some frankly silly footage of Dukakis riding in a tank, to peddle a lie. [CLIP]: [SOUNDS OF TANK AND AIRCRAFT IN BACKGROUND] ANNOUNCER: Michael Dukakis has opposed virtually every defense system we developed. He opposed new aircraft carriers. He opposed anti-satellite weapons. He opposed four missile systems, including the Pershing II missile deployment. Dukakis opposed the Stealth Bomber and a ground emergency warning system - [END CLIP] STEFAN FORBES: Perception is reality. He was a governor. He hadn't voted on any of those weapon systems. But Atwater realized you find a powerful, sticky image that the media can't resist, of this guy looking goofy in a tank helmet, and that will dwarf the
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. Now I see they've changed the title of Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri do a Porno to Zack and Miri. Backward prudish America anyway. I went to see it last night. But after 20 minutes I left because the people -- okay, let's call them riff-raff -- around me insisted upon talking. So I asked at the front desk if they'd let me switch films, so I went to see Rachel getting married instead, which I highly recommend. By Jonathan Demme, it's like a cinema verite (but really acted) of a few days in the life of a woman who has left Rehab to attend her sister's wedding. If you're familiar with Jonathan Demme's style of directing, this will seem like a departure for him (of course, Silence of the Lambs was a departure from the style of Married to the Mob and the wonderful Something Wild). I rented Journey to the Center of the Earth on Blu-Ray which I stopped watching after 20 minutes. Too dumb a script and they pan scanned the original 2:35:1 master. I'm having a debate with people on other forums over this because they thought the 1:85:1 version looked fine but to me the shots were way too tight. I went looking on the disk for extras to see if the camera monitor was set up for 2:35:1 but there were no making of extras and I can't find anything on the filming of it so far. IMDB says the intended aspect ratio was 2:35:1 signifying it was shown in theaters that way. This is somewhat bursting my bubble about Blu-Ray, which I'm a big fan of (when I say big fan that means I stand in front of the Blu- Ray demo at Best Buy like a brainwashed puppy staring at the same looped sequence loving the clarity and detail of everybody's pock- marked face on the screen). I assumed that if they go to the trouble of putting a movie on Blu- Ray DVD all these ratio problems would have already been worked out. But it was shown in 3D so they may have dumbed down the aspect ratio for a fuller experience (we know how the marketing pukes are). The Blu-Ray BTW was not 3D. Can't imagine them making two versions of the Blu-Ray: one for rental and the other for sales. Weird. I should know not to rent anything PG unless people are screaming from rooftops how good it is.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. I saw W. The most disgusting part of the film that made me audibly groan, and nearly throw a shoe at the screen, was the shameless attempt to rehabilitate Colin Powell's record on Iraq. Coincidentally, the movie's release happened about the same time as his endorsement of Obama. Figures.
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shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm tired of politics for now. Let's see what the new crew can do. It was enough to drag myself to see W. Now I see they've changed the title of Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri do a Porno to Zack and Miri. Backward prudish America anyway. I went to see it last night. But after 20 minutes I left because the people -- okay, let's call them riff-raff -- around me insisted upon talking. So I asked at the front desk if they'd let me switch films, so I went to see Rachel getting married instead, which I highly recommend. By Jonathan Demme, it's like a cinema verite (but really acted) of a few days in the life of a woman who has left Rehab to attend her sister's wedding. If you're familiar with Jonathan Demme's style of directing, this will seem like a departure for him (of course, Silence of the Lambs was a departure from the style of Married to the Mob and the wonderful Something Wild). I haven't seen Zack and Miri but I would probably be going to a matinee and there would be few others in the theater. Usually even with a younger crowd at my theater there is no talking during a film. Instead I thought I was going to have to shush an elderly couple in front of me at Changeling but they only were commenting to each other at the start of the film. I think they were forgetting they weren't at home in front of the TV. Demme is a good filmmaker. I've seen most of his films. I rented Journey to the Center of the Earth on Blu-Ray which I stopped watching after 20 minutes. Too dumb a script and they pan scanned the original 2:35:1 master. I'm having a debate with people on other forums over this because they thought the 1:85:1 version looked fine but to me the shots were way too tight. I went looking on the disk for extras to see if the camera monitor was set up for 2:35:1 but there were no making of extras and I can't find anything on the filming of it so far. IMDB says the intended aspect ratio was 2:35:1 signifying it was shown in theaters that way. This is somewhat bursting my bubble about Blu-Ray, which I'm a big fan of (when I say big fan that means I stand in front of the Blu- Ray demo at Best Buy like a brainwashed puppy staring at the same looped sequence loving the clarity and detail of everybody's pock- marked face on the screen). I assumed that if they go to the trouble of putting a movie on Blu- Ray DVD all these ratio problems would have already been worked out. I think it has to do with it being a family film. Often when studios release family films they release a 4:3 panscan version and a widescreen version on DVD. They may put both on one disk. They seem to feel that kids won't like the letterboxing if the movie is played on a 4:3 set. Blu-Ray is played on 16:9 sets (it would be really weird for someone to play it back on a 4:3 set though possible but it would still letterbox). So the studios feel they should fill the screen for the kids I guess. They have room to put the 2:35:1 version on it too but didn't. Nah, we know what they're going to do they'll release a collectors edition with the 2:35:1 version. Unfortunately in a way the wrong format won. HD-DVD was cheaper to produce and there would have been more titles and especially second tier titles. The only thing I think wrong with HD-DVD was that it was more sensitive to scratches, fingerprints, etc. than Blu-Ray. I still check the Blu-Ray disks and clean it if some greasy hand rented it last. The format war was really a corporate war. The studios didn't want Microsoft to have another edge on something which they did with HD-DVD. But you may also remember DVD started out with a war with the short lived DIVX (not to be confused with the video codec) which required you to hook up the player to a phone line to get the authentication to play and then you had 48 hours to play it. Obviously that was a stupid idea.
