[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
(snip) Anglachel said it far better than I ever could. Please go back and read what I posted from her blog again, more carefully this time. (snip) I sometimes wonder here whether I am speakiing with a person, or a computer, because the answers here, sound like they are pre-programmed and I already know what you are going to say, which is that you don't ever say anything. I'm sorry I didn't take French in High School, darn! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Anglachel said it far better than I ever could. Please go back and read what I posted from her blog again, more carefully this time. (snip) I sometimes wonder here whether I am speakiing with a person, or a computer, because the answers here, sound like they are pre-programmed and I already know what you are going to say, which is that you don't ever say anything. Don't you think that's maybe a bit premature conclusion to draw, Robert? I mean, you've made no attempt to address what the blog post I quoted was saying. If you were to read it again and then make a comment that demonstrates you understood it, or even ask a question about what you didn't understand, I'd be delighted to say something in response. If what you want to do instead is talk about how Bill shamed Hillary, fine, but you should probably start a new thread, because that has nothing *whatsoever* to do with what Anglachel was discussing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
(snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. His sexual addiction problem had him committing adultary with more woman than can be counted. And how could anyone be shamed more than he shamed her. But she went along with it, and even encouraged this kind of behaviour. Now we see McCain pick someone, not because of anything she has done, and not because of her experience; But simply because she is a woman, and he thought women are so stupid, that by just picking someone with the same genitiles would bring all the women on board. If that isn't partronizing than I don't know what is. Talk about wearing blinders. Might as well be deaf, dumb and blind. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur. Sorry you can't come up with a better response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur. Sorry you can't come up with a better response. I sur don't know what a non seequweeter is -- sounds like some hi falutin words that some fancy elist might use --- but there is something mighty strange in the logic BillyBob uses here. Out here in the real america, where there are real women -- they don't get shamed by no philandering husband. Everyone knows hes the shithead. Making it all about the wife -- well thats shear hoccum pig shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur. Sorry you can't come up with a better response. I sur don't know what a non seequweeter is -- sounds like some hi falutin words that some fancy elitist might use --- but there is something mighty strange in the logic BillyBob uses here. Out here in the real america, where there are real women -- they don't get shamed by no philandering husband. Everyone knows hes the shithead. Making it all about the wife -- well thats shear hoccum pig shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur. I kind of knew you wouldn't know what to do with that insight. You remember, when Billy Bob got caught with his pants down, that Hillary became a big heroine...how strong this woman is to put up with the sh-t her husband dished out to her. I read that the Secret service had to pull her off when she was throwing vases at him, during this adulterous, lieing incident. She once told Bill, that she needed to get laid more than twice a year. R.G. Sorry you can't come up with a better response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who would rather be part of the pack that attacks than one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders resentment. (snip) The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could. Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur. I kind of knew you wouldn't know what to do with that insight. There was no insight there, Robert. It was a random thought that had no connection to the points Anglachel was making. You remember, when Billy Bob got caught with his pants down, that Hillary became a big heroine...how strong this woman is to put up with the sh-t her husband dished out to her. I read that the Secret service had to pull her off when she was throwing vases at him, during this adulterous, lieing incident. She once told Bill, that she needed to get laid more than twice a year. R.G. Sorry you can't come up with a better response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
(snip) There was no insight there, Robert. It was a random thought that had no connection to the points Anglachel was making. (snip) Then please educate me, and many other's what the hell you are talking about... What are the policies that Senator Obama supports that are against women. I thought he was campaigning for equal pay for equal work. I thought he was campaigning for continued right for a woman to have an abortion for any reason. I didn't think there was really much difference between the policies that Senator Obama offers, and the policies that Senator Clinton was campaigning for. The point I was attempting to make, is that the whole shaming incident that happened with Bill's sexual misdeeds, were shouldered by his loving wife. And that her popularity increased, when she was able to pull through that very embarrassing situation. She did indeeed, 'Stand by her Man'... And she went on, with this newly found popularity, to run and become Senator of New York. The downfall came, in the election, when people felt that Senator Obama had the better message...Change, throw the bums out. Change is what we need, yes? The Clinton's represented the past, and then when Bill started down the road of getting 'White working class votes', and when people like Governor Ed Rendell stated, 'A black man can't win'... And he started going to redneck towns and other racist communities, to pump out the votes there, and when he adopted Karl Rove tactics, many turned against the Clinton campaign, because it started to feel squirmy, and deceptive. So, please educate me, on one thing that Senator Obama is supporting that differs from what Senator Clinton wants. I know you can say, that you've gone through this before, and you don't want to say anything more about, but that is not an answer. To me, it just seems like you're trolling the internet to try to find reasons to justify your postion, even if there's no point really being made there...just a bunch of anger and resentment, that your savior girl did not win. R.G. R.G. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) There was no insight there, Robert. It was a random thought that had no connection to the points Anglachel was making. (snip) Then please educate me, and many other's what the hell you are talking about... Anglachel said it far better than I ever could. Please go back and read what I posted from her blog again, more carefully this time. snip more non sequiturs
