[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread mainstream20016
MJF,
Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the 
movement. Without 
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily 
become  most 
important in the TMO - yet, concurrently, the TMO has become progressively 
irrelevant 
over the past three decades,  especially since an All things Vedic theme , 
and a game of 
let's pretend we're Indians   predominate in the TM culture now.  Bevan may 
find himself 
the successor to MMY in terms of absolute authority, yet the degree of 
irrelevancy of the 
TMO will mean that his position of authority in the TMO won't count for much in 
the world 
at large.  Oh, well..




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just joined this site.  
 
 Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89.
 
 
 I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew.  Is the nephew the 
 successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash 
 stashed away in Swiss accounts?  Did Bevin Morris inherit anything?  
 Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina?  What about Jeffrey Clemons 
 and Byron P. Rigby?  
 
 
 I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have 
 vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it 
 was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something 
 brilliant with the money?  Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew 
 this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive 
 sums of cash?
 
 
 I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists.  I 
 see that it does still exist.  The web-site is very professional, and 
 the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500?
 
 The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free 
 tuition to thousands of students for decades.
 
 I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev.
 
 This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring.  The ring was left 
 on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges.  
 MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and 
 remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger.  Aparently, he 
 figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as 
 well be him.
 
 He loved the ring.  He loved Guru Dev.
 
 Clearly, he wished to improve the world.
 
 Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies.  Along with short hair 
 and conservative attire.
 
 The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh.
 
 
 
 Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade?  Well, we make the 
 best choices we can given our consciousness at the time.  I noticed 
 that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome 
 attendence was not reversing the biological aging.  And people were 
 giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy.
 
 Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something 
 completely different.
 
 I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people.
 
 I would love to see more consciousness in the world.  I still pursue 
 consciousness.  I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of 
 having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire.
 
 Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you.  You're in a 
 position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on 
 how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of 
 trusties were dismissed.  The good guys were replaced with robots so 
 that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss 
 bank accounts.  I know you know this.  Why doesn't it bother you?
 
 
 Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you 
 sold your soul for the price of spinach.
 
 And that should bother you.
 
 
 
 God Bless All... JGD,
 
 MJF






RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of mainstream20016
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:20 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

 

MJF,
Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement.
Without 
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily
become most 
important in the TMO - 

I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty brilliant
guy, whatever else you may think of him.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the  
movement. Without
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has  
steadily become most

important in the TMO –

I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty  
brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him.




Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must
admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to
him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed
completely lost without a script.

Sal




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

 

On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote:





Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement.
Without 
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily
become most 
important in the TMO -

I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty brilliant
guy, whatever else you may think of him.

 

Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must 

admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to 

him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed

completely lost without a script.

 

Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having seen him
interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I'd say he's got some chops. OTOH, he has
a reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and intimidation,
and whose visits to campus many faculty members dread.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion 
empire?
 
  
 
 On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the 
movement.
 Without 
 blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has 
steadily
 become most 
 important in the TMO -
 
 I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty 
brilliant
 guy, whatever else you may think of him.
 
  
 
 Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must 
 
 admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to 
 
 him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed
 
 completely lost without a script.
 
  
 
 Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having 
seen him
 interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I'd say he's got some chops. 
OTOH, he has
 a reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and 
intimidation,
 and whose visits to campus many faculty members dread.

Hmm, really sounds like the age of enlightenment is upon us.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread gullible fool
Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must 
admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to 
him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed
completely lost without a script.
 
Maybe Bevan is so constantly on guard to not say anthing the TMO could construe 
as incorrect that he comes across to some people as slow-thinking. 

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:53 PM




On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote:





Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without 
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily 
become most 
important in the TMO –
I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty brilliant guy, 
whatever else you may think of him.

Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must 
admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to 
him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed
completely lost without a script.


Sal

 


  

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread gullible fool
I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because 
he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi 
administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of 
administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing 
and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, 
without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he 
was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight 
away from MMY, and so he lasted.

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:10 PM










From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal 
Sunshine
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
 





On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote:






Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without 
blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily 
become most 
important in the TMO –
I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty brilliant guy, 
whatever else you may think of him.
 

Really?  JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick?  I must 

admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to 

him, I was less than overwhelmed.  Poor guy seemed

completely lost without a script.
 
Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having seen him 
interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I’d say he’s got some chops. OTOH, he has a 
reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and intimidation, and 
whose visits to campus many faculty members dread. 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:12 PM, gullible fool wrote:

Maybe Bevan is so constantly on guard to not say anthing the TMO  
could construe as incorrect that he comes across to some people  
as slow-thinking.


Well, I've just never actually seen any evidence, personal or otherwise,
that he's brighter than average.  HIs management of MUM speaks
for itself, but somehow they always manage to pull through, despite,
it would seem, Bevan's best efforts to run the place into the ground, or
more to the point, let it flounder.

And sure, I've seen him read speeches well that others have written,  
but even George Bush can do that.  For that matter, so can Francis the

Talking Donkey, and probably a lot better than either one.

Sal




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of gullible fool
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

 


I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is
because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi
administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of
administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in
bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford
education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan
proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the
limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted.

I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the
top student. That says something.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he  
became the top student. That says something.


Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got
better grades in college than Al Gore?  His mother
said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she?

Sal




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread gullible fool

 
Oops, I remembered it as Oxford. Thanks for the correction, Rick. Here's what 
Wikipedia has to say about Cambridge: 
 
The University of Cambridge (often Cambridge University), located in Cambridge, 
England, is the second-oldest university in the English-speaking world. It is 
regarded as one of the world's leading academic institutions. 
 
Academically, Cambridge is consistently ranked in the world's top 5 
universities.[6][7] It has traditionally been an academic institution of choice 
of the Royal Family (King Edward VII, King George VI, Prince Henry of 
Gloucester, Prince William of Gloucester and Edinburgh and Prince Charles were 
all undergraduates) and has produced 82 Nobel Laureates to date.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge
 
Bevan also came to the only slightly less distinguished TM Center of Cambridge, 
the one time home to Vedic Atom Rick Archer. Unlike most high-up visitors who 
were in town for a short trip, Bevan actually did his sidhis program with us.
 
I did not know MMY sent Bevan to get the MA.
 
...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:31 PM










From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
gullible fool
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
 








I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because 
he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi 
administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of 
administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing 
and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, 
without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he 
was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight 
away from MMY, and so he lasted.

I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top 
student. That says something.
  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread gullible fool

 
Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting to know if 
Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where that bloke ended up.

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:35 PM




On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top 
student. That says something.

Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got 
better grades in college than Al Gore?  His mother 
said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she?


Sal

 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread R.G.
'Haven't we already been through this cycle, with The Beatles,
And Maharishi alegedly, 'using The Beatles',
For some publicity purpose...

Could this have anything to do with 'Give unto Caesar what is Caesars?

Perhaps, it's just all maya?

He's like from India, and the Brits and Americans have been draining 
these economies?

Um, let's see, well, hard to figure?
r.g.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote:
 
  I just joined this site.
 
  Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89.
 
 
  I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew.  Is the nephew 
the
  successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million 
cash
  stashed away in Swiss accounts?  Did Bevin Morris inherit 
anything?
  Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina?  What about Jeffrey 
Clemons
  and Byron P. Rigby?
 
 
  I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to 
have
  vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties 
it
  was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do 
something
  brilliant with the money?  Is this not a mystery to anyone who 
knew
  this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive
  sums of cash?
 
 
  I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still 
exists.  I
  see that it does still exist.  The web-site is very professional, 
and
  the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500?
 
  The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide 
free
  tuition to thousands of students for decades.
 
  I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev.
 
  This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring.  The ring was 
left
  on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges.
  MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and
  remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger.  Aparently, he
  figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as
  well be him.
 
  He loved the ring.  He loved Guru Dev.
 
  Clearly, he wished to improve the world.
 
  Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies.  Along with short 
hair
  and conservative attire.
 
  The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh.
 
 
 
  Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade?  Well, we make 
the
  best choices we can given our consciousness at the time.  I 
noticed
  that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden 
Dome
  attendence was not reversing the biological aging.  And people 
were
  giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely 
wealthy.
 
  Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something
  completely different.
 
  I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these 
people.
 
  I would love to see more consciousness in the world.  I still 
pursue
  consciousness.  I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility 
of
  having something conscious done with the three billion dollar 
empire.
 
  Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you.  You're 
in a
  position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light 
on
  how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of
  trusties were dismissed.  The good guys were replaced with robots 
so
  that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the 
swiss
  bank accounts.  I know you know this.  Why doesn't it bother you?
 
 
  Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you
  sold your soul for the price of spinach.
 
  And that should bother you.
 
 What is your source on MMY stealing the ringer off the corpse of 
Guru  
 Dev? While it doesn't surprise me, I don't recall hearing that one  
 before. Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder 
of  
 Guru Dev?
 
 There's been some recent discussion here that the money might be  
 returning to India to his nephew Girish who controls the financial  
 empire there. MUM just had it's largest class in many years, a lot 
of  
 it people from foreign countries looking for a way into the US or  
 jobs here. Plus there's been a lot of proselytizing from Donovan 
and  
 David Lynch. Lynch along with Dr. Howard Settle are having to 
fund  
 the sidhi program in FF to even get people to show up.
 
 Oh, and I guess you heard, the pundits finally showed up and were  
 immediately enclosed in barbwire-surrounded digs. I'm pretty sure 
it  
 was Vedic barbwire, so I wouldn't worry. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting 
 to know if Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where 
 that bloke ended up.

Not to get all horror movie on you or anything,
but based on the bulk, there is some possibility 
he ended up inside Bevan.





[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder
 of Guru Dev?

Vaj makes this assertion as though it were an
established fact, but of course it isn't, as he
knows. There were rumors at the time that Guru
Dev had been poisoned, but they never rose to
the level of any official investigation, so to
say MMY was the leading suspect is considerably
less than the truth.

When a public figure dies suddenly and 
unexpectedly, there are always dark rumors that
foul play was involved, and it was no different
with Guru Dev. But there was never any evidence
to that effect, much less that MMY dunnit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread R.G.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he 
is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed 
sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a 
group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British 
Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing 
and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent 
England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in 
the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he 
lasted.
 
Why do you mention the CIA?
What's up with the real deal here?
Who would have been behind someone investigating Maharish?
Pray tell, what's up with these remarks regarding the CIA?
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just joined this site.  
 
 Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89.
 
 
 I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew.  Is the nephew the 
 successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash 
 stashed away in Swiss accounts?  Did Bevin Morris inherit anything?  
 Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina?  What about Jeffrey Clemons 
 and Byron P. Rigby?  
 
 
 I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have 
 vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it 
 was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something 
 brilliant with the money?  Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew 
 this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive 
 sums of cash?
 
 
 I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists.  I 
 see that it does still exist.  The web-site is very professional, and 
 the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500?
 
 The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free 
 tuition to thousands of students for decades.
 
 I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev.
 
 This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring.  The ring was left 
 on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges.  
 MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and 
 remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger.  Aparently, he 
 figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as 
 well be him.


This is the most absurd accusation of MMY I've heard on this group
yet, MMY dove in after the ring?...Mr. Flatly you just blew your
cover, you sound like just another run of the mill MMY detractor. I
believe Guru Dev was buried in concrete before being lowered into the
Ganges anyway and MMY's monies were raised for the World Peace Fund to
perpetuate the Siddhis program. 

 He loved the ring.  He loved Guru Dev.
 
 Clearly, he wished to improve the world.
 
 Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies.  Along with short hair 
 and conservative attire.
 
 The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh.
 
 
 
 Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade?  Well, we make the 
 best choices we can given our consciousness at the time.  I noticed 
 that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome 
 attendence was not reversing the biological aging.  And people were 
 giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy.
 
 Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something 
 completely different.
 
 I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people.
 
 I would love to see more consciousness in the world.  I still pursue 
 consciousness.  I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of 
 having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire.
 
 Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you.  You're in a 
 position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on 
 how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of 
 trusties were dismissed.  The good guys were replaced with robots so 
 that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss 
 bank accounts.  I know you know this.  Why doesn't it bother you?
 
 
 Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you 
 sold your soul for the price of spinach.
 
 And that should bother you.
 
 
 
 God Bless All... JGD,
 
 MJF





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Vaj


On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:12 PM, authfriend wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder
of Guru Dev?


Vaj makes this assertion as though it were an
established fact, but of course it isn't, as he
knows. There were rumors at the time that Guru
Dev had been poisoned, but they never rose to
the level of any official investigation, so to
say MMY was the leading suspect is considerably
less than the truth.

When a public figure dies suddenly and
unexpectedly, there are always dark rumors that
foul play was involved, and it was no different
with Guru Dev. But there was never any evidence
to that effect, much less that MMY dunnit.



Actually it was from one of Guru Dev's direct students, so take it as  
you will. Knowing I was a student of TM (at the time), it was  
conveyed to me in very gentle and apologetic terms.


Of course, what's bizarre is that the type of person who would kill  
their guru--or at least be complicit in the murder--would probably  
not think twice about taking the ring off the finger of their  
teachers dead body. It brings a new twist to the saying scraping the  
bottom. Yet another bizarre twist in this whole possibility was  
Mahesh's paranoia about being poisoned himself. What was that about?  
Guilty conscience? We'll never know so it is good that, for histories  
sake, we at least know from several sources, that M. would stoop as  
low as to steal the jewelry off his dead masters corpse. It speaks  
volumes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote:
 
  I just joined this site.
 
  Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89.
 
 
  I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew.  Is the nephew the
  successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash
  stashed away in Swiss accounts?  Did Bevin Morris inherit anything?
  Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina?  What about Jeffrey Clemons
  and Byron P. Rigby?

I think he has 2 nephews. King Tony Nader is the closest to a
successor in terms of authority, though who knows who controls all the
money.  I doubt any individual inherited any money.  Greg was in
canada fleecing sidhas for Governors Corp before it went bankrupt - I
hear he's still there in some kind of business.  

 
  I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have
  vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it
  was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something
  brilliant with the money?  Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew
  this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive
  sums of cash?

I heard he ran afoul of the swiss bank authorities and pulled out of
there.  The big movt trusts are offshore British now, though they may
just be conduits into Indian accounts.  It is a mystery to anyone who
thinks about it why mmy was obsessed with raising money till the end
even though he had plenty, but most sidhas in the tmo don't think
about it or actually believe the mov't was really broke.
 
 
  I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists.  I
  see that it does still exist.  The web-site is very professional, and
  the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500?

MUM exists by attracting Africans into their business and computer
programs - they get loans and a degree that leads to a green card so
it's popular.  They used to get a fair amount of indians and chinese
but they wised up as to the quality.  Very few 20-something americans
go to school there.

  The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free
  tuition to thousands of students for decades.
 
  I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev.
 
  This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring.  The ring was left
  on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges.
  MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and
  remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger.  Aparently, he
  figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as
  well be him.
 
  He loved the ring.  He loved Guru Dev.
 
  Clearly, he wished to improve the world.
 
Yes but even ruthless dictators want to improve the world in their own
way - the question is why did mmy run the mov't into the ground by
turning it into a silly cult, turn a blind eye to the lack of progress
among his followers and hoard all the money? 

  Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies.  Along with short hair
  and conservative attire.

It's true that young people with drug and other major problems
probably benefited from their association with tm and mmy.  TM was
generally good for me, but the sidhis and the mov't itself were the
worst things I've ever done for my physical, emotional and mental
health.  Jesus fundamentalism may have gotten Bush off the whiskey,
but that doesn't make it a great spiritual path for all.

  The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh.
 
 
 
  Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade?  Well, we make the
  best choices we can given our consciousness at the time.  I noticed
  that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome
  attendence was not reversing the biological aging.  And people were
  giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy.
 
  Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something
  completely different.
 
  I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people.
 
  I would love to see more consciousness in the world.  I still pursue
  consciousness.  I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of
  having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire.

Don't hold your breath - the people who control the empire are totally
devout to MMY and will pursue similar paths with similar energy.

  Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you.  You're in a
  position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on
  how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of
  trusties were dismissed.  The good guys were replaced with robots so
  that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss
  bank accounts.  I know you know this.  Why doesn't it bother you?

Bevan thinks people who come to this site are going to hell.  Bevan
was the chief robot put in charge when the sane board got dismissed. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread gullible fool



Not to get all horror movie on you or anything,
but based on the bulk, there is some possibility 
he ended up inside Bevan.

 
Funny, but that would have had to happen years after their time together at 
Cambridge. When Bevan visited my sidhis course in September 1977, he was as 
svelte-looking as the 60's Beatles. Whether the weight was from the sidhis 
program messing up his metabolism, or from the stress of his position (a 
common TB belief), we'll never know.
 
...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 2:09 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting 
 to know if Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where 
 that bloke ended up.

Not to get all horror movie on you or anything,
but based on the bulk, there is some possibility 
he ended up inside Bevan.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is making Buddist fundamentalists like Vaj and the so-
called Turk so very active at this point ? 

The Dalai Lama holding hands with Mr. McCain published worldwide ? 
The uprising among Buddhist monks in Burma ? 
The surge of Crop Circles ridiculed by the same, or more likely; a 
general rise in world consciousness ?

Me thinks the latter.

Please exspect even more desperate and coordinated attempts from well 
known Buddhists to try to sow dissention. Since more and more 
individuals are beginning to live the fruit of Maharishis knowledge, 
these kinds of simple attacks from simpeltons will naturally follow.





[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
 Are you aware he was also a leading suspect 
 in the murder of Guru Dev?
 
Vaj just can't seem to resist spreading malicious 
rumors about the Maharishi. I wonder why that is?

Is there something fundamentally wrong with Vaj?
I wonder what it was that the Maharishi did to Vaj 
to cause Vaj to be having so much hatred in him.

Dr. Pete would probably be knowing something about
this. It's just amazing the things Vaj has to say,
it's almost a form of hate-speech. Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Michael wrote:
 Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring 
 was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket 
 was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the 
 river, almost immediately to open the casket 
 and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's 
 finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody 
 would rob the grave eventually, it might as
 well be him.

This is outrageous! If the Marshy wanted the
ring he could have just lifted it off the body
during the nine hour train ride back to Kashi. 

Why would Marshy want to wait and then dive 
into the Ganges in front of everyone and open 
the cement casket to get at the ring?



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
  I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to 
  get his MA, he became the top student. That says 
  something.
 
Sal wrote: 
 Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got
 better grades in college than Al Gore?  His mother
 said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she?
 
Bevan, Al, or George can't hold a candle to all
your accomplishments, Sal. 

What year did you say you graduated in?



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?

2008-07-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
BillyG wrote:
 I believe Guru Dev was buried in concrete before 
 being lowered into the Ganges anyway...

Yes, Billy, Michael has posted one of the most
outrageous posts I've read here in years: Marshy
loaded the Guru Dev's body onto a flat car and
then rode the rails all the way back to Kashi,
with a diamond ring on the Guru Dev's finger all
the way - a trip that took over nine hours.

Then, the Marshy, in front of what, 10,000 people,
dives into the Ganges and swims to the bottom,
pries open the lid of a concrete coffin, rips the
ring off the Guru Dev's finger, and then comes to
the top with his hand outstretched, and tells the
crowd that he's got the ring and now he will buy
hisself a what, a bungalow in the Upper Kashi?