Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-20 Thread Bob Price


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQzHsnGaP4&feature=fvwrel



From: Tom Pall 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:59:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise



On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM, emptybill  wrote:


>This is similar to the combined eye movement-eye fixation with
>pranayam/mudras that SSRS used to teach on extended meditation courses.
>
>Don't know if he still does.
>
>
>

No longer taught.  But I see the EMDR approach in a lot of things, including 
TM.   EMDR appears to work by uniting the right and left hemispheres.  It can 
also be seen as an orienting response.   When a wild animal is traumatized it 
first freezes.  As the threat goes away, the animal eventually starts this 
rapid eye movement from left to right, right to left.  In effect re-orienting 
itself.  Finally it literally shakes off the trauma.  We acknowledge this when 
we tell someone to "shake it off".  We tell someone how we've had this cold or 
fear for so long and have just not been able to "shake it off".   One of the 
worse things you can do to any animal is to interrupt it's freezing, orienting 
then shaking off a trauma.  People do this with pets and even fallen birds.  
The result is that they don't recover from the trauma and eventually succomb to 
it.  

If you think about it there's a lot of the rhythmic bilateral in many of our 
activities including dancing and foot or finger tapping to music.  I used to 
love to just walk quickly, sometimes for many miles.  A lot of troublesome 
emotions and energy just bubbled right out with the left right left right.  
Yes, pranayam also has a bilateral effect.  It's kind of like speaking prose.  
Once you look around you see we're engaging in bilateral activities all the 
time and don't even realize the underlying benefits of it all.

   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM, emptybill  wrote:

>
> This is similar to the combined eye movement-eye fixation with
> pranayam/mudras that SSRS used to teach on extended meditation courses.
>
> Don't know if he still does.
>
>
>
No longer taught.  But I see the EMDR approach in a lot of things,
including TM.   EMDR appears to work by uniting the right and left
hemispheres.  It can also be seen as an orienting response.   When a wild
animal is traumatized it first freezes.  As the threat goes away, the
animal eventually starts this rapid eye movement from left to right, right
to left.  In effect re-orienting itself.  Finally it literally shakes off
the trauma.  We acknowledge this when we tell someone to "shake it off".
We tell someone how we've had this cold or fear for so long and have just
not been able to "shake it off".   One of the worse things you can do to
any animal is to interrupt it's freezing, orienting then shaking off a
trauma.  People do this with pets and even fallen birds.  The result is
that they don't recover from the trauma and eventually succomb to it.

If you think about it there's a lot of the rhythmic bilateral in many of
our activities including dancing and foot or finger tapping to music.  I
used to love to just walk quickly, sometimes for many miles.  A lot of
troublesome emotions and energy just bubbled right out with the left right
left right.  Yes, pranayam also has a bilateral effect.  It's kind of like
speaking prose.  Once you look around you see we're engaging in bilateral
activities all the time and don't even realize the underlying benefits of
it all.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread seventhray1
Sounds like the apple is inching closer to the tree.(-:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:

> My daughter, home from college for Thanksgiving, has just informed me
she is feeling too insulated on her private college campus. Â I'm
going to take her and her friends to an Occupy Seattle rally day after
Thanksgiving. Â Time to get out of the house.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread Bob Price





From: obbajeeba 




Hell, I am too  to catch up so pardon my lack of thinking cap. : )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTXkhM6v-Y&feature=related



 

From: obbajeeba 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread emptybill

This is similar to the combined eye movement-eye fixation with
pranayam/mudras that SSRS used to teach on extended meditation courses.

Don't know if he still does.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
>
> EMDR is a very valuable form of therapy, especially if you are a long
time
> practitioner of TM/TMSP. I had an EMDR therapist who had lots of extra
> hours and I had loads of good insurance so for ~~$15 co pay for a 50
minute
> hour I managed to put in 1200 hours of EMDR in one year. I think
that's a
> world record. For me there was no need for any of the coping skills,
the
> boxes, the safe places. It was just forge, forge ahead. TM/TMSP had
> pre-processed most of the emotion, so for me it was more like watching
> things from a bullet train or even a jet plane. Regrettably, EMDR
can't
> handle pre-verbal stuff. So there's a lot of retching, vomiting,
loosening
> of muscles, expanding spine going on with lots of heavy, heavy yagyas
in
> the past year. My EMDR therapist, on the board of directors of EMDRIA,
> had a hard time figuring out how it was I could so very quickly move
thru
> stuff. The proof was in the constant expansion of my emotional and
> behavioral repertoire. So much fear, almost OCD, dissolved so very
> quickly. I continued processing during my TM/TMSP and my sleep. Indeed
I
> continued processing pretty much 24 hours a day. My EMDR therapist was
> confident enough to give me a bunch of EMDR CDs to copy. I listened to
the
> CDs during off hours and for years after the therapy was over. I took
a
> break about every quarter and went to round for a week at MUM. That
helped
> process things especially well.
>
> OK, I'm ready, Dr. Vaj. Hit me with what utter bullshit EMDR is.
>





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread Tom Pall
EMDR is a very valuable form of therapy, especially if you are a long time
practitioner of TM/TMSP.   I had an EMDR therapist who had lots of extra
hours and I had loads of good insurance so for ~~$15 co pay for a 50 minute
hour I managed to put in 1200 hours of EMDR in one year.  I think that's a
world record.  For me there was no need for any of the coping skills, the
boxes, the safe places.  It was just forge, forge ahead.  TM/TMSP had
pre-processed most of the emotion, so for me it was more like watching
things from a bullet train or even a jet plane.  Regrettably, EMDR can't
handle pre-verbal stuff.  So there's a lot of retching, vomiting, loosening
of muscles, expanding spine going on with lots of heavy, heavy yagyas in
the past year.   My EMDR therapist, on the board of directors of EMDRIA,
had a hard time figuring out how it was I could so very quickly move thru
stuff.  The proof was in the constant expansion of my emotional and
behavioral repertoire.   So much fear, almost OCD, dissolved so very
quickly.   I continued processing during my TM/TMSP and my sleep.  Indeed I
continued processing pretty much 24 hours a day.   My EMDR therapist was
confident enough to give me a bunch of EMDR CDs to copy.  I listened to the
CDs during off hours and for years after the therapy was over.  I took a
break about every quarter and went to round for a week at MUM.  That helped
process things especially well.

OK, I'm ready, Dr. Vaj.  Hit me with what utter bullshit EMDR is.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread Emily Reyn
Est tres belle :)



>
> From: Bob Price 
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise
> 
>
>  
>full SCREEN please
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jyF4LUpPM&feature=related
>
>
>From: Emily Reyn 
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:44:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise
>
>Oh mon dieu.  Excusez-moi s'il vous plait.  Je suis desolee.  Merci beaucoup.
>
>Warning:  Read at your own risk
>
>I realize this is going to sound kind of schizophrenic but I am retiring my 
>name and rebranding.  You can call me Emily or Em or Em-dash or whatever else. 
>I have taken pity on myself and have taken Denise off the front lines for now 
>- her own name is creating too much angst for her.  She doesn't want to 
>represent at this time - she's experiencing PTSD and is going to start EMDR in 
>January (yes, and will be meditating too).  Somebody needs to have that poor 
>girl's back 24/7 in the real world - she's been having a rough go.  It 
>occurred to me that that person has to be me.  Imagine that. I meditated 
>yesterday and visualized her as a child and she is quaking in her boots.  And, 
>bloodletting all over this forum is really not the right way to go for her. 
>I'm only going to do it this last time - hopefully.  I have also let her know 
>that nailing herself to the garage door or prostrating herself in front of her 
>lawnmower won't improve her image in the
>neighborhood.  So, Emily is stepping in to help her.  
>
>Obbajeeba, I am not holding your poor taste in video that morning against you 
>in the slightest.  I will say that I much preferred the one with Ginger in it 
>that Bob sent, care of his wife.  I know you didn't mean to set off such a 
>reaction in me and it was a pretty good joke, objectively, I do agree.  I 
>triggered heavily, which is actually a good thing, and I blame it all on the 
>voodoo (see video at end of post).  I might have even had a wet dream just 
>prior to the days' long rolling shame attacks that ensued.  Kind of like an 
>ocean wave.  They are happening a lot these days.  I breathe through them and 
>allow them to wash over me. It was very kind of you to think of me after I 
>posted out and I don't want you to feel at all badly.  I'm moving forward and 
>I do feel lighter :)
>
>To Bob's wife, I am extremely appreciative of your very fabulous response and 
>I am letting go of any guilt I might be harboring subconsciously.  I am 
>definitely not a threat in any wayand I look nothing like Cameron 
>Diaz...so there is nothing to worry about there either.  Although I do hope to 
>resemble Maria Bello in a year's time.  
>
>Bob is a lucky man, which we all know on this forum.  After hearing from you, 
>he is even luckier than we might have imagined.  I unsubscribed soon after I 
>posted and didn't see this until now.  I was thinking today that I should go 
>back and check the thread but I've been too frightened.  I knew I lobbed one 
>out there and then ran for my marmot hole. I always underestimate this forum - 
>I was kinda hoping that if I didn't look, it wouldn't be there.  Again, not 
>so.  
>
>I am almost convinced, not quite, but almost, on the TM.  Yes, I absolutely 
>want the benefits exactly as you have described and never have I heard them so 
>well put, may I add.  But, I'm not buying the whole "value" line of reasoning 
>at the price its being offered - not at all - my subjective principles are at 
>play :)  And, the remaining pennies in my piggy bank are being saved to buy me 
>as much time off as I can get in the coming year.  I was hoping I could use 
>the Leonard Cohen mantra - the secret of the universe - if you haven't seen 
>the video I/Emily posted earlier, it's a good one - last two minutes for the 
>mantra.  And he is so cute when he smiles.  But, now its out there and off 
>limits.  I keep forgetting.
>
>I have discovered that a buddhist monk kind of a guy is living several doors 
>down from where I live who is doing/teaching a meditation group.  I am getting 
>his number, as for me, I want to believe in my current state of disrepair that 
>meditation is meditation is meditation and that this practice will work as 
>well as the next at this point in time.  My head is barely above water, after 
>all.  Yes, I will pay, but its a nominal fee.  I did my own thing yesterday 
>for 30 minutes and it totally changed my day, so I know there is something to 
>this.  Hours of classical music ar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread Bob Price
full SCREEN please



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jyF4LUpPM&feature=related



From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:44:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise



Oh mon dieu.  Excusez-moi s'il vous plait.  Je suis desolee.  Merci beaucoup.

Warning:  Read at your own risk

I realize this is going to sound kind of schizophrenic but I am retiring my 
name and rebranding.  You can call me Emily or Em or Em-dash or whatever else. 
I have taken pity on myself and have taken Denise off the front lines for now - 
her own name is creating too much angst for her.  She doesn't want to represent 
at this time - she's experiencing PTSD and is going to start EMDR in January 
(yes, and will be meditating too).  Somebody needs to have that poor girl's 
back 24/7 in the real world - she's been having a rough go.  It occurred to me 
that that person has to be me.  Imagine that. I meditated yesterday and 
visualized her as a child and she is quaking in her boots.  And, bloodletting 
all over this forum is really not the right way to go for her. I'm only going 
to do it this last time - hopefully.  I have also let her know that nailing 
herself to the garage door or prostrating herself in front of her lawnmower 
won't improve her image in the
 neighborhood.  So, Emily is stepping in to help her.  

Obbajeeba, I am not holding your poor taste in video that morning against you 
in the slightest.  I will say that I much preferred the one with Ginger in it 
that Bob sent, care of his wife.  I know you didn't mean to set off such a 
reaction in me and it was a pretty good joke, objectively, I do agree.  I 
triggered heavily, which is actually a good thing, and I blame it all on the 
voodoo (see video at end of post).  I might have even had a wet dream just 
prior to the days' long rolling shame attacks that ensued.  Kind of like an 
ocean wave.  They are happening a lot these days.  I breathe through them and 
allow them to wash over me. It was very kind of you to think of me after I 
posted out and I don't want you to feel at all badly.  I'm moving forward and I 
do feel lighter :)

To Bob's wife, I am extremely appreciative of your very fabulous response and I 
am letting go of any guilt I might be harboring subconsciously.  I am 
definitely not a threat in any wayand I look nothing like Cameron Diaz...so 
there is nothing to worry about there either.  Although I do hope to resemble 
Maria Bello in a year's time.  

Bob is a lucky man, which we all know on this forum.  After hearing from you, 
he is even luckier than we might have imagined.  I unsubscribed soon after I 
posted and didn't see this until now.  I was thinking today that I should go 
back and check the thread but I've been too frightened.  I knew I lobbed one 
out there and then ran for my marmot hole. I always underestimate this forum - 
I was kinda hoping that if I didn't look, it wouldn't be there.  Again, not so. 
 

I am almost convinced, not quite, but almost, on the TM.  Yes, I absolutely 
want the benefits exactly as you have described and never have I heard them so 
well put, may I add.  But, I'm not buying the whole "value" line of reasoning 
at the price its being offered - not at all - my subjective principles are at 
play :)  And, the remaining pennies in my piggy bank are being saved to buy me 
as much time off as I can get in the coming year.  I was hoping I could use the 
Leonard Cohen mantra - the secret of the universe - if you haven't seen the 
video I/Emily posted earlier, it's a good one - last two minutes for the 
mantra.  And he is so cute when he smiles.  But, now its out there and off 
limits.  I keep forgetting.

I have discovered that a buddhist monk kind of a guy is living several doors 
down from where I live who is doing/teaching a meditation group.  I am getting 
his number, as for me, I want to believe in my current state of disrepair that 
meditation is meditation is meditation and that this practice will work as well 
as the next at this point in time.  My head is barely above water, after all.  
Yes, I will pay, but its a nominal fee.  I did my own thing yesterday for 30 
minutes and it totally changed my day, so I know there is something to this.  
Hours of classical music are also helping.  My expectations are low, so I'm 
sure they'll be met.

We all have a story.  I will keep this fairly brief but I was sexually 
assaulted 1.5 years ago by get this, a husband. His wife, my primary friend in 
the relationship, had left for their island retreat with the kids (one of them 
mine) and I sat down with a glass of wine to "shoot the sh*t" with her husband, 
who I hadn't seen in awhile, and who was staying behind.  In hindsight, he must 
have been drinking heavily throughout the da

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread seventhray1
is, a husband. His wife, my
primary friend in the relationship, had left for their island retreat
with the kids (one of them mine) and I sat down with a glass of wine to
"shoot the sh*t" with her husband, who I hadn't seen in awhile, and who
was staying behind. Â In hindsight, he must have been drinking
heavily throughout the day (he had a very high tolerance and it was hard
to tell). In hindsight, they had invited me to their wedding anniversary
at Teatro Zinzani the year before as they "weren't enjoying just
spending time with themselves anymore." Â In hindsight, he lost his
mind. Â It was a physical fight and he didn't get what he wanted at
the time. Â He apologized, but it was too late. Â
> >
> > I cut off contact with both of them immediately. Â I begged off
dinner invitations. I forced myself through one ski day with my friend
because I knew she had no idea. Â I did the George Costanza
line..."it's not you, it's me," which was also true in that I was full
into my corporate death spiral at that time. Â I asked myself, "What
will be gained by me telling her?" Â They were "do" friends -
backpacks, ski trips, camping trips, dinners, parties...she didn't like
to talk emotional anything. Â We were always about the activity - our
friendship was very "stereotypical male" in that regard. Â But, I was
already pulling away because I was turning into an emotional wreck and
was having trouble pretending or getting the energy up to "do." Â
> >
> > It would be excruciating; it would blow their marriage apart; it
would blow our families apart; betrayal, pain, and suffering. Â Our
kids went to yoga together - why ruin their world? Â It would be the
end of the relationship anyway. Â I agonized over this, because I am
usually pretty direct and I like to think I am an honest person. Â I
asked myself as Bob likes to say, accept seriously in this case, "Was it
something I said?" And then, "Was I giving off sexual energy in some way
that he picked up on and thought I wanted back?" Â "Was my
vulnerability showing through?" Â After all, it is always the woman's
fault isn't it? Â She asked for it, after all, didn't she? Â I've
known them for 10 years - nothing even resembling this kind of
interaction or conversation had ever occurred.Â
> >
> > So, in the end, I determined it "wasn't on my dot." Â It really
wasn't my fault. Â IÂ couldn't take on being the one in the
middle, bringing their problems to a focus at point blank range on my
forehead. If she had been my best friend, I would have told the
story, because I know she would have believed me and it would have been
about honoring the friendship, first and foremost. But, she wasn't my
best friend in that sense - she didn't own her feelings - she would have
looked for someone to blame - it would have been me. I chose
"situational ethics." So, you see, when that video was posted, I freaked
out - even though it had absolutely nothing to do with any of you at
all. Â
> >
> > I am living in my "pain body" as Eckhart Tolle would say. Â I
know it; I have to stop feeding it. Â I have a plan. Â I need to
keep it light here. Â This post is not that light, but Emily is in
charge now and she has better executive function, so there's hope for
the future. Â
> >
> > By the way, I created my name - "the Reyn part" based on the weather
here, but see now nicely it dovetails with the video Raindrops Keep
FallingIn the end, I really do blame it all on the voodoo. Â
> >
> > And, luckily for me, I located some speakers for my laptop in my
garage. Â And, I hooked them up, and they work.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcr9_dCOusk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:39 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise
> >
> >
> > Â
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5l6rIUu4A
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Ravi Yogi 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:57:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nice to hear from "the wife" and glad to hear that you have given
up all pretenses to reign in Bob and letting fat chance and o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread seventhray1
ghout the day (he had a very high tolerance and it was hard
to tell). In hindsight, they had invited me to their wedding anniversary
at Teatro Zinzani the year before as they "weren't enjoying just
spending time with themselves anymore." Â In hindsight, he lost his
mind. Â It was a physical fight and he didn't get what he wanted at
the time. Â He apologized, but it was too late. Â
>
> I cut off contact with both of them immediately. Â I begged off
dinner invitations. I forced myself through one ski day with my friend
because I knew she had no idea. Â I did the George Costanza
line..."it's not you, it's me," which was also true in that I was full
into my corporate death spiral at that time. Â I asked myself, "What
will be gained by me telling her?" Â They were "do" friends -
backpacks, ski trips, camping trips, dinners, parties...she didn't like
to talk emotional anything. Â We were always about the activity - our
friendship was very "stereotypical male" in that regard. Â But, I was
already pulling away because I was turning into an emotional wreck and
was having trouble pretending or getting the energy up to "do." Â
>
> It would be excruciating; it would blow their marriage apart; it would
blow our families apart; betrayal, pain, and suffering. Â Our kids
went to yoga together - why ruin their world? Â It would be the end
of the relationship anyway. Â I agonized over this, because I am
usually pretty direct and I like to think I am an honest person. Â I
asked myself as Bob likes to say, accept seriously in this case, "Was it
something I said?" And then, "Was I giving off sexual energy in some way
that he picked up on and thought I wanted back?" Â "Was my
vulnerability showing through?" Â After all, it is always the woman's
fault isn't it? Â She asked for it, after all, didn't she? Â I've
known them for 10 years - nothing even resembling this kind of
interaction or conversation had ever occurred.Â
>
> So, in the end, I determined it "wasn't on my dot." Â It really
wasn't my fault. Â IÂ couldn't take on being the one in the
middle, bringing their problems to a focus at point blank range on my
forehead. If she had been my best friend, I would have told the
story, because I know she would have believed me and it would have been
about honoring the friendship, first and foremost. But, she wasn't my
best friend in that sense - she didn't own her feelings - she would have
looked for someone to blame - it would have been me. I chose
"situational ethics." So, you see, when that video was posted, I freaked
out - even though it had absolutely nothing to do with any of you at
all. Â
>
> I am living in my "pain body" as Eckhart Tolle would say. Â I know
it; I have to stop feeding it. Â I have a plan. Â I need to keep
it light here. Â This post is not that light, but Emily is in charge
now and she has better executive function, so there's hope for the
future. Â
>
> By the way, I created my name - "the Reyn part" based on the weather
here, but see now nicely it dovetails with the video Raindrops Keep
FallingIn the end, I really do blame it all on the voodoo. Â
>
> And, luckily for me, I located some speakers for my laptop in my
garage. Â And, I hooked them up, and they work.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcr9_dCOusk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:39 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise
>
>
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5l6rIUu4A
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:57:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice to hear from "the wife" and glad to hear that you have given up
all pretenses to reign in Bob and letting fat chance and old age do its
work :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >-Denise
> > >
> > >This is my first and (I hope to God) last post on Fairfield Life.
I'm "the
> > >wife". I asked Bob to let me send you a post, after he showed me
this post
> > >of yours. Bob shows me a lot of FFL posts, but the ones I enjoy the
most are
> > >yours and Judy's. I enjoy your posts because you have a g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-19 Thread obbajeeba
, my primary friend 
> in the relationship, had left for their island retreat with the kids (one of 
> them mine) and I sat down with a glass of wine to "shoot the sh*t" with her 
> husband, who I hadn't seen in awhile, and who was staying behind.  In 
> hindsight, he must have been drinking heavily throughout the day (he had a 
> very high tolerance and it was hard to tell). In hindsight, they had invited 
> me to their wedding anniversary at Teatro Zinzani the year before as they 
> "weren't enjoying just spending time with themselves anymore."  In 
> hindsight, he lost his mind.  It was a physical fight and he didn't get what 
> he wanted at the time.  He apologized, but it was too late.  
> 
> I cut off contact with both of them immediately.  I begged off dinner 
> invitations. I forced myself through one ski day with my friend because I 
> knew she had no idea.  I did the George Costanza line..."it's not you, it's 
> me," which was also true in that I was full into my corporate death spiral at 
> that time.  I asked myself, "What will be gained by me telling her?"  They 
> were "do" friends - backpacks, ski trips, camping trips, dinners, 
> parties...she didn't like to talk emotional anything.  We were always about 
> the activity - our friendship was very "stereotypical male" in that regard. 
>  But, I was already pulling away because I was turning into an emotional 
> wreck and was having trouble pretending or getting the energy up to "do."  
> 
> It would be excruciating; it would blow their marriage apart; it would blow 
> our families apart; betrayal, pain, and suffering.  Our kids went to yoga 
> together - why ruin their world?  It would be the end of the relationship 
> anyway.  I agonized over this, because I am usually pretty direct and I like 
> to think I am an honest person.  I asked myself as Bob likes to say, accept 
> seriously in this case, "Was it something I said?" And then, "Was I giving 
> off sexual energy in some way that he picked up on and thought I wanted 
> back?"  "Was my vulnerability showing through?"  After all, it is always 
> the woman's fault isn't it?  She asked for it, after all, didn't she?  I've 
> known them for 10 years - nothing even resembling this kind of interaction or 
> conversation had ever occurred. 
> 
> So, in the end, I determined it "wasn't on my dot."  It really wasn't my 
> fault.  I couldn't take on being the one in the middle, bringing their 
> problems to a focus at point blank range on my forehead. If she had been my 
> best friend, I would have told the story, because I know she would have 
> believed me and it would have been about honoring the friendship, first and 
> foremost. But, she wasn't my best friend in that sense - she didn't own her 
> feelings - she would have looked for someone to blame - it would have been 
> me. I chose "situational ethics." So, you see, when that video was posted, I 
> freaked out - even though it had absolutely nothing to do with any of you at 
> all.  
> 
> I am living in my "pain body" as Eckhart Tolle would say.  I know it; I have 
> to stop feeding it.  I have a plan.  I need to keep it light here.  This 
> post is not that light, but Emily is in charge now and she has better 
> executive function, so there's hope for the future.  
> 
> By the way, I created my name - "the Reyn part" based on the weather here, 
> but see now nicely it dovetails with the video Raindrops Keep FallingIn 
> the end, I really do blame it all on the voodoo.  
> 
> And, luckily for me, I located some speakers for my laptop in my garage. 
>  And, I hooked them up, and they work.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcr9_dCOusk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:39 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise
>  
> 
>   
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5l6rIUu4A
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Ravi Yogi 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:57:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Nice to hear from "the wife" and glad to hear that you have given up all 
> > pretenses to reign in Bob and letting fat chance and old age d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-18 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> -Denise
> 
> 
> This is my first and (I hope to God) last post on Fairfield Life. I'm "the
> wife". I asked Bob to let me send you a post, after he showed me this post
> of yours. Bob shows me a lot of FFL posts, but the ones I enjoy the most are
> yours and Judy's. I enjoy your posts because you have a great sense of humor
> and do not take yourself too seriously, and I admire Judy for standing up to
> some obvious sexism. 
> 
> Thank you for asking Bob to share your post with me; I appreciate you 
> watching my
> back. I wouldn't be too concerned though; I'm confident the chances of Bob
> finding another brunette version of a Cameron Diaz doppelganger are about as
> narrow as (I'm told) my very narrow ankles. Not that Bob isn't resourceful,
> he's all of that, but as I'm sure you've guessed, he's getting a bit long in
> the tooth. I agree with your take on the "after sex" video, according
> to Bob, Obbajeeba was scraping the bottom of his nitrous oxide tank (I have no
> idea what that means) and got a bit carried away. The only part of
> this post that's Bob's is this link, which Bob insists is the link Obbajeeba
> should have sent.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmCZar-MpA&feature=related
> 
> I have no doubt you and I could keep up with Ginger, but Bob as Fred, maybe 
> on his
> keyboard.
> 
> The reason I wanted to send you this post was to do something I've never done
> before; recommend you get initiated into TM. I'm not a promoter of TM, and
> unlike Bob, I've only been mediating for a couple of years. I've been 
> following
> your posts describing some of your recent health challenges. Based on the last
> few years of meditating, it's been my experience that TM might just be the 
> kind
> of technique that would help you with the passage you are presently going
> through. TM is subtle; it's been my experience that it unlocks something 
> that's
> already there; I like to think of it as a slight edge (no fireworks) like the
> slight edge top performers have. I don't mean it makes everyone a top
> performer, I don't believe it does; I believe it opens this edge of a little
> more energy, a little more clarity and a little more happiness, and I believe
> that slight edge makes many of the normal challenges life, throws at us, a lot
> less daunting. I run my own company, and I've been impressed by how it helps 
> me
> when I should be running on empty.
> 
> When I started a few years ago, I thought Bob was an idiot for not teaching 
> me and
> insisting I pay the 4 figures to get initiated. I wanted to know why the hell
> he won't teach me, but he insisted I go to the TM center to learn (he said he 
> didn't want
> me to use it against him, if we ever ended up in court:). Since my first
> meditation, I have not asked him why again. The point I'm trying to make is
> that if you can manage the fee, I would not hesitate to recommend
> you pay it. I can't honestly explain it, but for what it costs why mess with
> the system, if it will help you find in yourself what you need to come out the
> other side of what you're presently going through. It's also been my 
> experience
> (with your corporate background, I'm sure you know this as well) people value
> what they pay for. And lastly, something happened when I went through the puja
> the day I was initiated, it might just be me but something seemed to happen
> between my initiator and me that made me feel she's on my side. I recommend 
> you
> get a female initiator, frankly, some of the male initiators seem a bit odd to
> me, but then the guy I sleep with seems a bit odd to me at times, so what can 
> I say. I
> have no doubt; TM works, and it works well.
> 
> I can't believe I just wrote this.
> 
> Best of luck.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Denise Evans 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:03:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you Bob:
> 
> That is a great quote.
> 
> My occipital lobe enjoys everything you post :)  My frontal and parietal 
> lobes struggle to keep up.  I forwarded the last one for later viewing.  
> 
> My musical reply is posted at the end of this soliloquy.   
> 
> It has come to my attention that my "debt to equity ratio" is high - quite a 
> bit higher than I'm comfortable with.  Ultimately, I'm in search of the 
> "win/win" solution for my Self - fantasy/hallucination or no.  I've got some 
> "action items" I need to "own" and "implement".  I'm all about the client, 
> you know, regardless.  In that my current client is myself or Self, if you 
> prefer, I'm just trying to "bring it on home."  
> 
> I am "retooling" my strategy with my new client in mind.  I'm pretty sure 
> I'll find that I'm no longer in the driver's seat, but I've done plenty of 
> strategy in my life and I was pretty good at it in my particular line of 
> work, so my Ego insists on trying to help.  A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

2011-11-18 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5l6rIUu4A
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ravi Yogi 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:57:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> 
> 
> 
> Nice to hear from "the wife" and glad to hear that you have given up all 
> pretenses to reign in Bob and letting fat chance and old age do its work :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Bob Price  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >-Denise
> >
> >This is my first and (I hope to God) last post on Fairfield Life. I'm "the
> >wife". I asked Bob to let me send you a post, after he showed me this post
> >of yours. Bob shows me a lot of FFL posts, but the ones I enjoy the most are
> >yours and Judy's. I enjoy your posts because you have a great sense of humor
> >and do not take yourself too seriously, and I admire Judy for standing up to
> >some obvious sexism. 
> >
> >Thank you for asking Bob to share your post with me; I appreciate you 
> >watching my
> >back. I wouldn't be too concerned though; I'm confident the chances of Bob
> >finding another brunette version of a Cameron Diaz doppelganger are about as
> >narrow as (I'm told) my very narrow ankles. Not that Bob isn't resourceful,
> >he's all of that, but as I'm sure you've guessed, he's getting a bit long in
> >the tooth. I agree with your take on the "after sex" video, according
> >to Bob, Obbajeeba was scraping the bottom of his nitrous oxide tank (I have 
> >no
> >idea what that means) and got a bit carried away. The only part of
> >this post that's Bob's is this link, which Bob insists is the link Obbajeeba
> >should have sent.
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmCZar-MpA&feature=related
> >
> >I have no doubt you and I could keep up with Ginger, but Bob as Fred, maybe 
> >on his
> >keyboard.
> >
> >The reason I wanted to send you this post was to do something I've never done
> >before; recommend you get initiated into TM. I'm not a promoter of TM, and
> >unlike Bob, I've only been mediating for a couple of years. I've been 
> >following
> >your posts describing some of your recent health challenges. Based on the 
> >last
> >few years of meditating, it's been my experience that TM might just be the 
> >kind
> >of technique that would help you with the passage you are presently going
> >through. TM is subtle; it's been my experience that it unlocks something 
> >that's
> >already there; I like to think of it as a slight edge (no fireworks) like the
> >slight edge top performers have. I don't mean it makes everyone a top
> >performer, I don't believe it does; I believe it opens this edge of a little
> >more energy, a little more clarity and a little more happiness, and I believe
> >that slight edge makes many of the normal challenges life, throws at us, a 
> >lot
> >less daunting. I run my own company, and I've been impressed by how it helps 
> >me
> >when I should be running on empty.
> >
> >When I started a few years ago, I thought Bob was an idiot for not teaching 
> >me and
> >insisting I pay the 4 figures to get initiated. I wanted to know why the hell
> >he won't teach me, but he insisted I go to the TM center to learn (he said 
> >he didn't want
> >me to use it against him, if we ever ended up in court:). Since my first
> >meditation, I have not asked him why again. The point I'm trying to make is
> >that if you can manage the fee, I would not hesitate to recommend
> >you pay it. I can't honestly explain it, but for what it costs why mess with
> >the system, if it will help you find in yourself what you need to come out 
> >the
> >other side of what you're presently going through. It's also been my 
> >experience
> >(with your corporate background, I'm sure you know this as well) people value
> >what they pay for. And lastly, something happened when I went through the 
> >puja
> >the day I was initiated, it might just be me but something seemed to happen
> >between my initiator and me that made me feel she's on my side. I recommend 
> >you
> >get a female initiator, frankly, some of the male initiators seem a bit odd 
> >to
> >me, but then the guy I sleep with seems a bit odd to me at times, so what 
> >can I say. I
> >have no doubt; TM works, and it works well.
> >
> >I can't believe I just wrote this.
> >
> >Best of luck.
> >
> >
> >From: Denise Evans 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:03:23 AM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yo Denise
> >
> >Thank you Bob:
> >
> >That is a great quote.
> >
> >My occipital lobe enjoys everything you post :)  My frontal and parietal 
> >lobes struggle to keep up.  I forwarded the last one for later viewing.  
> >
> >My musical reply is posted at the end of this soliloquy.   
> >
> >It has come to my attention that my "debt to equity ratio" is high - quite a 
> >bit higher than I'm comfortable wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUBQLnEGHNk&feature=relmfu

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> i love it
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz3mrnIBd0&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 3:24:17 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>  
> > For you listening pleasure:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related
> 
> Ah. Now I wish I was a guitar.
> 
> (Playing in the Alhambra, yet!)
> 
> Not as cool a setting, but...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZvdGAGlOo
> 
> 
>   
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Price


i love it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz3mrnIBd0&feature=related




From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 3:24:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
 
> For you listening pleasure:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related

Ah. Now I wish I was a guitar.

(Playing in the Alhambra, yet!)

Not as cool a setting, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZvdGAGlOo


   


[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
 
> For you listening pleasure:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related

Ah. Now I wish I was a guitar.

(Playing in the Alhambra, yet!)

Not as cool a setting, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZvdGAGlOo




[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread obbajeeba
Mr. Price, you hit a nerve. This movie has such significance to my childhood 
and beyond. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TndQbf_j4ng&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:45:36 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl9PJrWeSUc : ) Hah.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > I agree. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I also agree with something else I think you said; what goes on around here 
> > is closer to burlesque:
> > 
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlesque
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For you listening pleasure:
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33:23 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZRcxvGIWE&feature=related
> > 
> > Man, they are the absolute ultimate masters of deadpan.
> > I don't know how they all manage to keep straight faces.
> > 
> > And they prove what I've said here a number of times:
> > The closer to reality, the better the satire.
> > 
> > 
> >  Â 
> >
> 
> 
>   
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Price


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TndQbf_j4ng&feature=related



From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:45:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl9PJrWeSUc : ) Hah.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I agree. 
> 
> 
> 
> I also agree with something else I think you said; what goes on around here 
> is closer to burlesque:
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlesque
> 
> 
> 
> For you listening pleasure:
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33:23 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZRcxvGIWE&feature=related
> 
> Man, they are the absolute ultimate masters of deadpan.
> I don't know how they all manage to keep straight faces.
> 
> And they prove what I've said here a number of times:
> The closer to reality, the better the satire.
> 
> 
>  Â 
>


   


[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl9PJrWeSUc  : ) Hah.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I agree. 
> 
> 
> 
> I also agree with something else I think you said; what goes on around here 
> is closer to burlesque:
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlesque
> 
> 
> 
> For you listening pleasure:
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33:23 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZRcxvGIWE&feature=related
> 
> Man, they are the absolute ultimate masters of deadpan.
> I don't know how they all manage to keep straight faces.
> 
> And they prove what I've said here a number of times:
> The closer to reality, the better the satire.
> 
> 
>   
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Price


I agree. 



I also agree with something else I think you said; what goes on around here is 
closer to burlesque:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlesque



For you listening pleasure:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU&feature=related







From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZRcxvGIWE&feature=related

Man, they are the absolute ultimate masters of deadpan.
I don't know how they all manage to keep straight faces.

And they prove what I've said here a number of times:
The closer to reality, the better the satire.


   


[FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise!

2011-11-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZRcxvGIWE&feature=related

Man, they are the absolute ultimate masters of deadpan.
I don't know how they all manage to keep straight faces.

And they prove what I've said here a number of times:
The closer to reality, the better the satire.