[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-02 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> > >
> > > claudiouk wrote:
> > > > Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a
faster
> > > > desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then
access
> > this
> > > > unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then
> > becomes
> > > > the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP
> > Home on
> > > > my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it)
> > where
> > > > you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but
does
> > that
> > > > take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process
> > > > limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in
> > which
> > > > case my idea is pointless..?
> > > >
> > > > I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC
> > > > experts in FFL...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I doubt if this would be that useful. You might want to see if
there
> > > are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is
useful
> > for
> > > you. I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be thinking
of.
> > > Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any
> > experience
> > > with nor need for it. In fact I only use Windows when I have to
and
> > use
> > > Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the
> > Internet.
> > >
> > Remote Desktop or UltraVNC is quite a bit faster over a 54mbit
> > wireless connection than PC Anywhere... At least in my experience. I
> > have used all 3 for remote control for myself and clients. LogMeIn
> > also works well, and seems to have some improvements over Remote
> > Desktop, but I haven't used it as much.
>
> I use Bosco's Screen Share which is free and works on Mac's and PC's.
> It's pretty fast and real easy to configure, as even my Mom is able
> to use it.
>
> http://www.componentx.com/ScreenShare/
>

Thanks for the info. Hadn't heard of that one ... good for the OS X
too... nice :)




[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed? new question..

2008-02-02 Thread claudiouk
>From the responses so far it seems that there are ways of controlling a 
a pc remotely, but that my idea of using a laptop as the sole monitor 
and keyboard of a faster desktop base unit won't actually take 
advantage of the faster capabilities of the unit. The main bottleneck 
is the monitor although developments like
http://www.itpro.co.uk/news/161082/multiple-monitors-go-wireless-this-
year.html suggest we are getting to the point of overcoming this 
problem. 

So forgetting wireless connections, how can I wire up a laptop to a 
faster PC base unit so that it ONLY acts as the monitor and keyboard, 
thereby taking full advantage of the faster PC (and save me having to 
buy a new monitor at least)?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a faster 
> desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then access 
this 
> unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then 
becomes 
> the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP Home on 
> my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it) 
where 
> you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but does 
that 
> take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process 
> limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in which 
> case my idea is pointless..?
> 
> I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC 
> experts in FFL...
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Bhairitu
sandiego108 wrote:
> yep- I'm a windows user, and I should probably buy my used copy of
> XP off e-bay for my next notebook. Vista sounds awful.
BTW, if anyone wants to try Linux on a wireless laptop I recommend the 
MiniMe Live CD version of PCLinuxOS.  It found the Atheros wifi on my 
Toshiba Satellite.  Their full version hasn't caught up with the wifi 
support in MiniMe yet though the full version did work with my Compaq 
notebook with a Broadcom wifi device.   For those not acquainted with 
Linux a Live CD is a CD you can download as an image (.iso) file and 
burn to a CD and run Linux without installing it.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Vaj


On Feb 1, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vaj

Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:32 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?


I use Bosco's Screen Share which is free and works on Mac's and  
PC's. It's pretty fast and real easy to configure, as even my Mom  
is able to use it.




http://www.componentx.com/ScreenShare/



That looks pretty cool. I presume both users have to have it  
installed? Do you get chocolate milk with that?
Yes both have to have it. The challenge was to get my Mom to download  
and then find where she saved it to on her hard drive!


No choc. milk so far, but I do get newspaper clippings from the  
hometown newspaper via snail mail and the all the family gossip I can  
handle.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:32 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

 

I use Bosco's Screen Share which is free and works on Mac's and PC's. It's
pretty fast and real easy to configure, as even my Mom is able to use it.

 

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"http://www.componentx.com/ScreenShare/"http://www.componentx.com/ScreenShar
e/

 

That looks pretty cool. I presume both users have to have it installed? Do
you get chocolate milk with that?


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Vaj


On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> claudiouk wrote:
> > Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a faster
> > desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then access
this
> > unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then
becomes
> > the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP  
Home on

> > my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it)
where
> > you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but does
that
> > take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process
> > limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in  
which

> > case my idea is pointless..?
> >
> > I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC
> > experts in FFL...
> >
> >
> >
> I doubt if this would be that useful. You might want to see if there
> are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is useful
for
> you. I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be thinking of.
> Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any  
experience

> with nor need for it. In fact I only use Windows when I have to and
use
> Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the  
Internet.

>
Remote Desktop or UltraVNC is quite a bit faster over a 54mbit
wireless connection than PC Anywhere... At least in my experience. I
have used all 3 for remote control for myself and clients. LogMeIn
also works well, and seems to have some improvements over Remote
Desktop, but I haven't used it as much.


I use Bosco's Screen Share which is free and works on Mac's and PC's.  
It's pretty fast and real easy to configure, as even my Mom is able  
to use it.


http://www.componentx.com/ScreenShare/



[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sandiego108 wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >   
> >> claudiouk wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a 
> >>>   
> > faster 
> >   
> >>> desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then 
> >>>   
> > access this 
> >   
> >>> unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then 
> >>>   
> > becomes 
> >   
> >>> the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP 
> >>>   
> > Home on 
> >   
> >>> my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has 
it) 
> >>>   
> > where 
> >   
> >>> you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but 
> >>>   
> > does that 
> >   
> >>> take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the 
process 
> >>> limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in 
> >>>   
> > which 
> >   
> >>> case my idea is pointless..?
> >>>
> >>> I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real 
PC 
> >>> experts in FFL...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> I doubt if this would be that useful.  You might want to see if 
> >> 
> > there 
> >   
> >> are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is 
> >> 
> > useful for 
> >   
> >> you.  I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be 
thinking 
> >> 
> > of.  
> >   
> >> Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any 
> >> 
> > experience 
> >   
> >> with nor need for it.  In fact I only use Windows when I have 
to 
> >> 
> > and use 
> >   
> >> Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the 
> >> 
> > Internet.
> >   
> > Any time you introduce another device in your network you are 
> > introducing network latency, in addition to processor and bus 
> > limitations. So much easier to just buy a faster laptop and be 
done 
> > with it.
> But not with Vista as that will slow your faster laptop down.  :D
>
yep- I'm a windows user, and I should probably buy my used copy of 
XP off e-bay for my next notebook. Vista sounds awful.



[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> claudiouk wrote:
> > Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a faster 
> > desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then access
this 
> > unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then
becomes 
> > the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP Home on 
> > my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it)
where 
> > you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but does
that 
> > take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process 
> > limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in which 
> > case my idea is pointless..?
> >
> > I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC 
> > experts in FFL...
> >
> >
> >   
> I doubt if this would be that useful.  You might want to see if there 
> are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is useful
for 
> you.  I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be thinking of.  
> Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any experience 
> with nor need for it.  In fact I only use Windows when I have to and
use 
> Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the Internet.
>
Remote Desktop or UltraVNC is quite a bit faster over a 54mbit
wireless connection than PC Anywhere... At least in my experience. I
have used all 3 for remote control for myself and clients. LogMeIn
also works well, and seems to have some improvements over Remote
Desktop, but I haven't used it as much.

JohnY



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Bhairitu
sandiego108 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> claudiouk wrote:
>> 
>>> Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a 
>>>   
> faster 
>   
>>> desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then 
>>>   
> access this 
>   
>>> unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then 
>>>   
> becomes 
>   
>>> the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP 
>>>   
> Home on 
>   
>>> my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it) 
>>>   
> where 
>   
>>> you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but 
>>>   
> does that 
>   
>>> take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process 
>>> limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in 
>>>   
> which 
>   
>>> case my idea is pointless..?
>>>
>>> I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC 
>>> experts in FFL...
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> I doubt if this would be that useful.  You might want to see if 
>> 
> there 
>   
>> are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is 
>> 
> useful for 
>   
>> you.  I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be thinking 
>> 
> of.  
>   
>> Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any 
>> 
> experience 
>   
>> with nor need for it.  In fact I only use Windows when I have to 
>> 
> and use 
>   
>> Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the 
>> 
> Internet.
>   
> Any time you introduce another device in your network you are 
> introducing network latency, in addition to processor and bus 
> limitations. So much easier to just buy a faster laptop and be done 
> with it.
But not with Vista as that will slow your faster laptop down.  :D



[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> claudiouk wrote:
> > Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a 
faster 
> > desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then 
access this 
> > unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then 
becomes 
> > the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP 
Home on 
> > my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it) 
where 
> > you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but 
does that 
> > take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process 
> > limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in 
which 
> > case my idea is pointless..?
> >
> > I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC 
> > experts in FFL...
> >
> >
> >   
> I doubt if this would be that useful.  You might want to see if 
there 
> are demo or trial versions of those programs and see if it is 
useful for 
> you.  I think "PC Anywhere" is the program you might be thinking 
of.  
> Remote Desktop on XP does some of that but I don't have any 
experience 
> with nor need for it.  In fact I only use Windows when I have to 
and use 
> Linux most of the time especially for anything to do with the 
Internet.
>
Any time you introduce another device in your network you are 
introducing network latency, in addition to processor and bus 
limitations. So much easier to just buy a faster laptop and be done 
with it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: a computer question - is it allowed?

2008-02-01 Thread Larry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Instead of buying a new laptop is it possible to just buy a faster 
> desktop PC base unit (without monitor or keyboard) and then access this 
> unit from anywhere in the house from my old laptop (which then becomes 
> the wireless keyboard and monitor for the unit)?? I've got XP Home on 
> my laptop. I know there are programs (eg XP Professional has it) where 
> you can control a computer remotely and see the desktop, but does that 
> take advantage of the faster computer capacity or is the process 
> limited by the speed of the "controlling" computer anyway, in which 
> case my idea is pointless..?
> 
> I know this is a non-TM question but I noticed there are real PC 
> experts in FFL...
>
conceivably - your new bottleneck would be the refresh rate of the
your old laptop screen and connection to the new PC, so anything with
graphics would slow way down - and the other extreme, programs with
big calcs and little graphics would be faster, like if you were doing
runs in stat packages . . . but few people use this kind of software -
but this advice is worth exactly what I charged you for it.