Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-11-03 Thread Denise Evans
I like to tell myself I'm meditating when I'm swimming...breath in, breath out 
for 20-30 minuteseverything else falls away as the focus in water is making 
sure one can breathe.  It does leave me in a deeply relaxed place...but I 
figure those are the endorphins kicking in :) 



From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam  Healing

On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:

 
 I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
 cannot be divulged without payment.

Nothing.  You get a mantra which in ™ is the name
of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
provide what TMers call deep rest.  This is deeper than
your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
been some studies but most have to shown to have been
fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
they're available somewhere on the Web.

  If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, 
why is it all a big secret?  Why is the technique so secret?  Why isn't it 
in a book?

Because they could make more $$ in the old days
by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
out a huge amount of $$ to learn a secret word.  
Don't believe 'em, Denise. 

  Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of you 
super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in the 
living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How self-centered is 
this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone who 
has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the 
world?  It reeks of BS.

Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator.  

Sal 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-11-03 Thread Denise Evans
snip
A word of warning: Many studies (the movement has tried to suppress) have 
found that approximately 40% of the people who practice TM develop adverse 
effects.


This was in the link you sent..tee hee...this is too high a percentage to mess 
with and I am NOT going to chant a hindu seed mantra which is what the one for 
my age group is.  It is also  one of the words in the mantra I received from 
Amma.  I'm letting it goI won't pick up the TM topic again.  Other methods 
resonate better.  



From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam  Healing

On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
 
 
 I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
 cannot be divulged without payment.
 
 Nothing.  You get a mantra which in ™ is the name
 of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
 over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
 it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
 it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
 provide what TMers call deep rest.  This is deeper than
 your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
 and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
 been some studies but most have to shown to have been
 fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
 they're available somewhere on the Web.
 
 If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, 
 why is it all a big secret? Why is the technique so secret?  Why isn't it 
 in a book?
 
 Because they could make more $$ in the old days
 by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
 learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
 fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
 out a huge amount of $$ to learn a secret word.  
 Don't believe 'em, Denise. 
 
 Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of you 
 super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in 
 the living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How self-centered is 
 this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone 
 who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the 
 world?  It reeks of BS.
 
 Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
 you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
 you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
 necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator. 

And here you go: http://bit.ly/lXMA3o

Sal 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-11-03 Thread Ravi Yogi
Heart only feels whereas intellect tries to analyze it. So if you feel good and 
your intellect says endorphins - there's no dichotomy. You can enjoy both. 
Usually people try to deny or suppress - no need to.


On Nov 3, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I like to tell myself I'm meditating when I'm swimming...breath in, breath 
 out for 20-30 minuteseverything else falls away as the focus in water is 
 making sure one can breathe.  It does leave me in a deeply relaxed 
 place...but I figure those are the endorphins kicking in :) 
 
 From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam  Healing
 
 On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
 
  
  I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
  cannot be divulged without payment.
 
 Nothing.  You get a mantra which in ™ is the name
 of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
 over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
 it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
 it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
 provide what TMers call deep rest.  This is deeper than
 your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
 and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
 been some studies but most have to shown to have been
 fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
 they're available somewhere on the Web.
 
   If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in 
  this, why is it all a big secret?  Why is the technique so secret?  Why 
  isn't it in a book?
 
 Because they could make more $$ in the old days
 by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
 learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
 fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
 out a huge amount of $$ to learn a secret word.  
 Don't believe 'em, Denise. 
 
   Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of 
  you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant 
  in the living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How 
  self-centered is this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for 
  that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that 
  they can change the world?  It reeks of BS.
 
 Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
 you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
 you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
 necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator.  
 
 Sal 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-10-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:

 
 I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
 cannot be divulged without payment.

Nothing.  You get a mantra which in ™ is the name
of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
provide what TMers call deep rest.  This is deeper than
your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
been some studies but most have to shown to have been
fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
they're available somewhere on the Web.

  If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, 
 why is it all a big secret?  Why is the technique so secret?  Why isn't it 
 in a book?

Because they could make more $$ in the old days
by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
out a huge amount of $$ to learn a secret word.  
Don't believe 'em, Denise. 

  Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of you 
 super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in the 
 living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How self-centered is 
 this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone 
 who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the 
 world?  It reeks of BS.

Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator.  

Sal 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-10-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
 
 
 I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
 cannot be divulged without payment.
 
 Nothing.  You get a mantra which in ™ is the name
 of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
 over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
 it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
 it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
 provide what TMers call deep rest.  This is deeper than
 your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
 and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
 been some studies but most have to shown to have been
 fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
 they're available somewhere on the Web.
 
 If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, 
 why is it all a big secret? Why is the technique so secret?  Why isn't it 
 in a book?
 
 Because they could make more $$ in the old days
 by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
 learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
 fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
 out a huge amount of $$ to learn a secret word.  
 Don't believe 'em, Denise. 
 
 Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of you 
 super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in 
 the living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How self-centered is 
 this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone 
 who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the 
 world?  It reeks of BS.
 
 Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
 you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
 you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
 necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator. 

And here you go: http://bit.ly/lXMA3o

Sal 









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[FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-10-17 Thread evananda108
Sorry for the repost:

Many of you know me from the early days (1979)when I started up the first oil 
brokerage company, Rofheart International Oil, right in Fairfield. And some may 
know that I am now a healer. Miracle healing anyone: http://evananda.net

I am also now involved with Navapashanam...the highest possible
Rasayana, making it the sought-after secret of the Siddhas. The results are 
amazing: see my site http://navapashanam.org

Evan Rofheart



Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-10-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 17, 2011, at 3:32 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 But...but...this is just an ad of yours. Go prey on the sick elsewhere please.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, evananda108 evananda@... wrote:
 
 Sorry for the repost:
 
 Many of you know me from the early days (1979)when I started up the first 
 oil brokerage company, Rofheart International Oil, right in Fairfield. And 
 some may know that I am now a healer. Miracle healing 
 anyone:http://evananda.net
 
 I am also now involved with Navapashanam...the highest possible
 Rasayana, making it the sought-after secret of the Siddhas. The results 
 are amazing: see my sitehttp://navapashanam.org
 
 Evan Rofheart

Is that his real name?

Sal 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam Healing

2011-10-17 Thread Vaj
The color of these beads would seem to indicate that they contain either 
cinnabar or an manmade amalgam of mercuric sulfide, is that correct?

Has the FDA had an opportunity to evaluate these?

On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:20 PM, evananda108 wrote:

 Sorry for the repost:
 
 Many of you know me from the early days (1979)when I started up the first oil 
 brokerage company, Rofheart International Oil, right in Fairfield. And some 
 may know that I am now a healer. Miracle healing anyone: http://evananda.net
 
 I am also now involved with Navapashanam...the highest possible
 Rasayana, making it the sought-after secret of the Siddhas. The results are 
 amazing: see my site http://navapashanam.org
 
 Evan Rofheart