[FairfieldLife] Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-10 Thread emptybill
From time to time I see posts claiming that !...@#$%^ is a Buddhist.

So, I'm wondering who these Buddhist might be here on FFL? In fact, I'm
thinking that there are no Buddhists on FFL. Why would Buddhists
populate FFL? Outside of the snearing, slander and outright fighting
that some of our luminaries indulge  in (code  for *ejaculate on*) why
would a Buddhist care one single thing about MMY's teachings or any of
the various reckless and drunken speculations parading here as ideas on
public-spectacle-dot.001?

I'm wondering just who these Buddhists might be. I've hung with
Tantric Buddhists since 1992 - although they are not the usual breed of
knee-jerk Prasangikas. The ones I talk with can actually discuss the
similarities between Jamgon Kongtrul and Iamblicus on the role of the
pranic chariot (oxema-pneuma) in theurgic/tantric rites. The ones I
don't talk with much are the there is no chariot - it is nothing but a
collection of boards, axils and spokes.

Of course this is not real news here since doctrinare and mindless 
intellects are plentiful on any forum- especially one involving the
relationship between the fundamental questions of human life and the
teachings of the .org/church/sampradaya/lineage/revelation/religion.

However my conversations over the years have demonstrated that most
Buddhists don't really have anything close to the
meditative-experiential baseline that most of us bring to FFL and take
for granted in our conversations.

In fact, one of my friends, who had Tri-Cyle Buddhist training starting
from the early 70's, was startled to hear MMY's description of
transcending (from the Gita commentary). We were looking at Shankara's
commentary on the Yoga-Sutras and his assumption was that this must have
been my own personal experience. Although in one sense this was
accurate, it just did'nt occur to him that MMY would offer this
description to us precisely because many of us had this very experience
of transcending during meditation.

All lineage are not the same.

Buddhists claimants! Stand forth and assert your claims here on FFL in a
straight-forward manner - instead of the usual pseudo-fodder.

Who here is a Buddhist - enough of one that you can claim to critique
MMY's teachings on the one hand or use that very basis to bring greater
clarity to understanding what he said?









Re: [FairfieldLife] Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-10 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Feb 10, 2009, at 7:52 PM, emptybill wrote:


From time to time I see posts claiming that !...@#$%^ is a Buddhist.

So, I'm wondering who these Buddhist might be here on FFL? In fact,  
I'm thinking that there are no Buddhists on FFL. Why would Buddhists  
populate FFL? Outside of the snearing, slander and outright fighting  
that some of our luminaries indulge in (code  for *ejaculate on*)  
why would a Buddhist care one single thing about MMY's teachings or  
any of the various reckless and drunken speculations parading here  
as ideas on public-spectacle-dot.001?


I'm wondering just who these Buddhists might be.


Actually, bill, there's a dirty little secret here on FFL
and so far, you are the only one who's even come close
to cracking it, and it's this...Rick decided when he
first started this group, that he dam well didn't want
it overrun by Buddhists, know what I mean? So he
took a page from what others have done to keep
things civil...You've heard of Jewish quotas, Catholic
quotas and Black quotas?  Well, Rick instituted a
Buddhist quota!  That's right, here on FFL, only
a certain amount of those crazy Buddhists are
allowed at any one time, and even then they still
have to use separate virtual drinking fountains,
sit in the back of the virtual bus, and, well...
you get the idea.

But please, don't tell anyone.  Since this place
is so well-known as a haven of peace and
tranquillity, I wouldn't want any unseemly
revelations to ruin that.

Sal