Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra
On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:45 AM, cardemaister wrote: Funny coincidence, in Finnish sauma means 'seam; joint'. OTOH, soma means 'pretty, sweet, nice', but it's pronounced with a short o-sound, as opposed to Skt soma, pronounced with a long o-sound, approx. like saw-ma, but with more kissing lips, or stuff. Interesting, esp. given the possible connection to the myth of Kvasir. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra
From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _ One of the articles in the Journal of Vedic studies attempted to prove, thru this detailed textual analysis, that soma was in fact the ephedra plant. The real reason that the Vedic rishis were so awake was because they were quaffing down ephedra! The image was just hilarious of these dreadlocked rishis, speeding there brains out like undergrads cramming for midterms. -V. Ahhh, the real definition of awakening. - There is more than textual pointers that Euphedra (and cannabis) were used in ancient rites -- that involved lots of mixing, grinding and straining (echos of 9th mandala -- and many other things) . While this does not prove any link to soma, it is interesting. -- Akasha, I cant tell if you are saying that these substances might play a roll in the explanation of the mixing and straining as described in the 9th mandala or not. If so, you are definitely suggesting links to Soma. I mean, the Rig Veda is/was the origin of the word. No other definition of Soma that came later could possibly be more accurate. -mark To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra
On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Are you under the impression that Soma only existed in Rig Veda times? I don't know that it did or did not, though I speculate that it has been formulated in its outer form at various times through the ages. Well there is a very old tradition of soma which may date to pre-Vedic times, and that is the Soma-siddhanta. It is a tantric practice and centers around a bizarre etymology of the word soma. In tantra, different approaches to the state of Unity will be concealed by two words joined together in one word. In Soma-siddhanta, soma is actually the compound sa-Umaa, that is Shiva and Uma conjoined. Their nectar of union is soma. -Vaj. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra
From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:10 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, you are definitely suggesting links to Soma. I mean, the Rig Veda is/was the origin of the word. No other definition of Soma that came later could possibly be more accurate. I am not sure why oldest is best. It may be. But I would think any direct account of its use or creation would be useful. Are you under the impression that Soma only existed in Rig Veda times? I don't know that it did or did not, though I speculate that it has been formulated in its outer form at various times through the ages. -- Akasha, Oldest is best when it comes to trying to understand the original meaning of a word. Reasonably, the oldest appearance of the word would be the closest a researcher could come to discovering its original definition. I am under the impression that the word Soma first appeared in the Rig Veda. Am I wrong (with my chronology)? Is not the Rig the oldest Veda? Did Soma appear before then? If so, in what text(s)? As far as whether the substance Soma pre-dated the word Soma, I would imagine it did. But that gets us nowhere in our search for the identification of it. -Mark To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
