Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surrogates in India
John, I'd never before heard that Krishna allows for everything to happen but I think it's true, diversity being the unrelenting nature of the universe. As for an act being good or bad in and of itself, the Gita has just the opposite teaching of the Catholic Church. In the Gita, the act is good to the degree that it is performed with highly developed consciousness. Krishna is telling Arjuna to kill, but to do so established in Being. It brings to mind Kohlberg's Moral Reasoning Scale and the kind of moral reasoning that is not seen in fundamentalists of any organization. Maharishi told people to follow the laws of one's country and religion and I agree with that. Until one is sure on the level of Being that to do so is not life supporting. Even then, karma is unfathomable. Remembering pious men like Brother David and Father Keating, the answer comes to just rest in life's ultimate goodness, do one's best, and let the chips fall where they may (-: On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:40 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, It's a tough question for couples answer whether it's ethical or not to use a surrogate. But the most immediate concern for them is to have a baby. For this type of case, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, believes it can be justified since Krishna allows for everything to happen. If the couple has good karma, then they will be rewarded with a child. If not, the child will be denied. In the Catholic Church, the issue is in deciding the nature of the act performed. If the act by itself is good then the act and results are ethical. If the act by itself is not licit, then the act and the results are not ethical. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I agree that something about it does not feel right though if no force is involved it seems legal enough. It seems like a win win but is it also a win for the child? And it definitely indicates an unhealthy imbalance in the world that a woman would have to earn money by bearing another person's child. I could support it if there were guarantees that the child and surrogate mother would remain in contact. But that seems unlikely. So I say, keep looking for other solutions to both problems. On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:19 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though. On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... wrote: They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world. One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice. http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surrogates in India
John, I agree that something about it does not feel right though if no force is involved it seems legal enough. It seems like a win win but is it also a win for the child? And it definitely indicates an unhealthy imbalance in the world that a woman would have to earn money by bearing another person's child. I could support it if there were guarantees that the child and surrogate mother would remain in contact. But that seems unlikely. So I say, keep looking for other solutions to both problems. On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:19 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though. On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... wrote: They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world. One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice. http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surrogates in India
Share, It's a tough question for couples answer whether it's ethical or not to use a surrogate. But the most immediate concern for them is to have a baby. For this type of case, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, believes it can be justified since Krishna allows for everything to happen. If the couple has good karma, then they will be rewarded with a child. If not, the child will be denied. In the Catholic Church, the issue is in deciding the nature of the act performed. If the act by itself is good then the act and results are ethical. If the act by itself is not licit, then the act and the results are not ethical. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I agree that something about it does not feel right though if no force is involved it seems legal enough. It seems like a win win but is it also a win for the child? And it definitely indicates an unhealthy imbalance in the world that a woman would have to earn money by bearing another person's child. I could support it if there were guarantees that the child and surrogate mother would remain in contact. But that seems unlikely. So I say, keep looking for other solutions to both problems. On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:19 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though. On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world. One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice. http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surrogates in India
That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though. On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world. One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice. http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html
