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You're welcome, Ann. I agree that we each live in our own world of personal experience. It's great when language can build a bridge between those worlds. And yeah, when those worlds are of a more abstract seeming nature, the gap can seem huge. Sometimes it's fun just to try and bridge that gap. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, there is definitely flat silence and lively silence. TM is about the former and TMSP is about the latter. I think the big trick about silence is to not try to have it. Awareness might be a better word than silence. Does one really have to try and be aware?! Nope, awareness is always happening. Attention may move from point to point. But awareness is constant, a field of lively potentiality. Hope this helps. Thanks for your reply Share but I am still either too unsilent (noisy) or unaware to understand. I know there are theoretical explanations and ideas about what all this means but to actually live it and then come to understand it is still not resonating for me. I know what it is to sit and meditate and there is a certain level of quiet/silence (then I fall asleep) and I know what it is like to be in the midst of activity and still feel grounded and almost removed but I am not sure that is the same thing as what the Doc is talking about or even what you are explaining here. It's pretty hard to translate one person's subjectivity into words, let alone understand it to be one's own. I think maybe we will all live in our individual worlds and we will only be able to guess at another's reality. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you are describing is a defense mechanism, whereas the witnessing of CC is an actual and permanent change in how the mind operates.Silence is ever-present during the witnessing of CC. Although there is a detachment that comes with an out of body experience, the identity of the person, having such an experience, remains unchanged. What does that mean? If you are in CC then how come there is witnessing? Isn't CC a sort of witnessing already? The silence [of CC] is naturally occurring, so there is nothing to do about it, either to make it go away, or to keep it around. After the mind is conditioned to maintain Silence at all times, it cannot be reversed. If it can be grasped onto, or destroyed in the mind, it is not yet permanent. It can only exist effortlessly in the mind, if it is permanent. What do you mean by silence exactly? To me this is just a word that is sort of overused and stereotypical, like a cliche. Can you make this concept real for me? Then activity, including thoughts themselves, can be witnessed, from a deep platform of silence. With CC, the identity shifts inwardly, towards the silence. Then, after some time, it comes out to play again, but the silence remains, always, continuing to grow and deepen, even in the midst of very dynamic activities. Would you equate silence with stillness or immovability (in its positive sense)? Otherwise the concept of silence seems sort of flat or, at best, without interesting fluctuation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do people want out of the body experiences?! Which I think can happen naturally but during extreme trauma. Would you equate out of body experiences the same as witnessing? Because I know that when something particularly freaky or extreme happens I have noticed I have some witnessing which is a kind of out of body experience. I remember Barry saying he witnessed for about two weeks after having been threatened at knifepoint by some Dutch mugger. Otherwise for example, the point of the TMSP is to increase integration between mind and body. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Re Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in : Nick Barrett, the speaker, said exactly what you're saying. He could tune in right there and then. Do we think that astral projection and out-of-the-body experiences are basically
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Ann, there is definitely flat silence and lively silence. TM is about the former and TMSP is about the latter. I think the big trick about silence is to not try to have it. Awareness might be a better word than silence. Does one really have to try and be aware?! Nope, awareness is always happening. Attention may move from point to point. But awareness is constant, a field of lively potentiality. Hope this helps. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you are describing is a defense mechanism, whereas the witnessing of CC is an actual and permanent change in how the mind operates.Silence is ever-present during the witnessing of CC. Although there is a detachment that comes with an out of body experience, the identity of the person, having such an experience, remains unchanged. What does that mean? If you are in CC then how come there is witnessing? Isn't CC a sort of witnessing already? The silence [of CC] is naturally occurring, so there is nothing to do about it, either to make it go away, or to keep it around. After the mind is conditioned to maintain Silence at all times, it cannot be reversed. If it can be grasped onto, or destroyed in the mind, it is not yet permanent. It can only exist effortlessly in the mind, if it is permanent. What do you mean by silence exactly? To me this is just a word that is sort of overused and stereotypical, like a cliche. Can you make this concept real for me? Then activity, including thoughts themselves, can be witnessed, from a deep platform of silence. With CC, the identity shifts inwardly, towards the silence. Then, after some time, it comes out to play again, but the silence remains, always, continuing to grow and deepen, even in the midst of very dynamic activities. Would you equate silence with stillness or immovability (in its positive sense)? Otherwise the concept of silence seems sort of flat or, at best, without interesting fluctuation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do people want out of the body experiences?! Which I think can happen naturally but during extreme trauma. Would you equate out of body experiences the same as witnessing? Because I know that when something particularly freaky or extreme happens I have noticed I have some witnessing which is a kind of out of body experience. I remember Barry saying he witnessed for about two weeks after having been threatened at knifepoint by some Dutch mugger. Otherwise for example, the point of the TMSP is to increase integration between mind and body. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Re Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in : Nick Barrett, the speaker, said exactly what you're saying. He could tune in right there and then. Do we think that astral projection and out-of-the-body experiences are basically lucid dreams only entered from the waking state under one's own volition? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in for the same reason any other sense is used. Exactly the same experience. Though, in viewing the astral worlds, for example, it takes a little longer to become proficient, vs. say our sense of smell, since it isn't, along with lucid dreaming, introduced to us in any sort of systematic way. We sort of stumble across it, and begin to discover the great depth and breadth of the worlds and knowledge and experience now easily available to us, during our everyday lives. After a few years of, gee whiz, it settles down, though the experiences continue to deepen, naturally. Personally, for sleep time, I vastly prefer plain old, deep, restful sleep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Went to a talk at Watkins tonight - London's premier esoteric bookshop which is celebrating 120 years service this year - to hear Nick Barrett talk about Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming. You know about lucid dreaming - when you become lucid during a dream and realise that what you are experiencing is a dream. I've had that happen to me a few times but each
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Doc, I really love all three of your recent posts about this topic of silence. Kind of illuminating for my own on going experience. Thanks. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming That flat silence and lively silence differentiation, was one made by Maharishi, to explain the operation of the sidhis - where they live, so to speak. In terms of experience, though, there is no difference in the silence accompanying any activity, only that it grows over time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, there is definitely flat silence and lively silence. TM is about the former and TMSP is about the latter. I think the big trick about silence is to not try to have it. Awareness might be a better word than silence. Does one really have to try and be aware?! Nope, awareness is always happening. Attention may move from point to point. But awareness is constant, a field of lively potentiality. Hope this helps. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you are describing is a defense mechanism, whereas the witnessing of CC is an actual and permanent change in how the mind operates.Silence is ever-present during the witnessing of CC. Although there is a detachment that comes with an out of body experience, the identity of the person, having such an experience, remains unchanged. What does that mean? If you are in CC then how come there is witnessing? Isn't CC a sort of witnessing already? The silence [of CC] is naturally occurring, so there is nothing to do about it, either to make it go away, or to keep it around. After the mind is conditioned to maintain Silence at all times, it cannot be reversed. If it can be grasped onto, or destroyed in the mind, it is not yet permanent. It can only exist effortlessly in the mind, if it is permanent. What do you mean by silence exactly? To me this is just a word that is sort of overused and stereotypical, like a cliche. Can you make this concept real for me? Then activity, including thoughts themselves, can be witnessed, from a deep platform of silence. With CC, the identity shifts inwardly, towards the silence. Then, after some time, it comes out to play again, but the silence remains, always, continuing to grow and deepen, even in the midst of very dynamic activities. Would you equate silence with stillness or immovability (in its positive sense)? Otherwise the concept of silence seems sort of flat or, at best, without interesting fluctuation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do people want out of the body experiences?! Which I think can happen naturally but during extreme trauma. Would you equate out of body experiences the same as witnessing? Because I know that when something particularly freaky or extreme happens I have noticed I have some witnessing which is a kind of out of body experience. I remember Barry saying he witnessed for about two weeks after having been threatened at knifepoint by some Dutch mugger. Otherwise for example, the point of the TMSP is to increase integration between mind and body. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Re Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in : Nick Barrett, the speaker, said exactly what you're saying. He could tune in right there and then. Do we think that astral projection and out-of-the-body experiences are basically lucid dreams only entered from the waking state under one's own volition? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in for the same reason any other sense is used. Exactly the same experience. Though, in viewing the astral worlds, for example, it takes a little longer to become proficient, vs. say our sense of smell, since it isn't, along with lucid dreaming, introduced to us in any sort of systematic way. We sort of stumble across it, and begin
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In SofB, AofL, Maharishi writes that the program is TM and taking action. Which I'm assuming would involve some intention and effort. And I realize that some have misinterpreted an instruction about meditation to also be about life. But even by his example, Maharishi taught dynamic action. Dreaming to me seems like a natural process, like digestion. I'd rather let it go on in a natural way. And about the group lucid dreaming, I'd want to be sure that everyone involved knew how to avoid the illusory and very wily astral realm. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming I would not expect TMers to become very good at lucid dreaming, because doing so involves the use of will and intent. Many of them would not do well with that, because they've been subconsciously convinced by TM dogma for so long that any kind of intention or effort is bad or off the program. It can be a lot of fun, especially when you're practicing this stuff along with other people who are also proficient at it. You can arrange to get together in the dream plane, and do so. We used to have regular meetings in the dream plane, and then sit down together afterwards and compare notes. More often than not we would all report the same settings or dreamscapes, and relate the exact same events or conversations that we experienced while dreaming. As for its possible practical uses, the main one I've heard of is in the variant of lucid dreaming known as Tibetan dream yoga. Adepts of that practice feel that being able to control one's dreams is a valuable skill because it can then be used in the Bardo between death and rebirth. They see the Bardo as analogous to the dream plane, and subject to the same exercises in will and intent. If your goal is to move towards the Clear Light and thus (in their belief system) effect a higher rebirth, then the ability to avoid distractions and focus on the Clear Light is useful. As for the notion of paying attention to any spirit guides or anyone/anything you meet in dreaming, I have two words for you: DUMB IDEA. All *sorts* of critters live on the dream plane, and some of them are as good at morphing their appearance and hiding their real intent from you as the best human lucid dreamers. HOW do you know you can trust them?
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Why do people want out of the body experiences?! Which I think can happen naturally but during extreme trauma. Otherwise for example, the point of the TMSP is to increase integration between mind and body. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Re Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in : Nick Barrett, the speaker, said exactly what you're saying. He could tune in right there and then. Do we think that astral projection and out-of-the-body experiences are basically lucid dreams only entered from the waking state under one's own volition? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Those experiences are available during everyday life, too, not just during a lucid dream, and they don't have to be unsettling. It is like being aware of another frequency, and tuning in for the same reason any other sense is used. Exactly the same experience. Though, in viewing the astral worlds, for example, it takes a little longer to become proficient, vs. say our sense of smell, since it isn't, along with lucid dreaming, introduced to us in any sort of systematic way. We sort of stumble across it, and begin to discover the great depth and breadth of the worlds and knowledge and experience now easily available to us, during our everyday lives. After a few years of, gee whiz, it settles down, though the experiences continue to deepen, naturally. Personally, for sleep time, I vastly prefer plain old, deep, restful sleep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Went to a talk at Watkins tonight - London's premier esoteric bookshop which is celebrating 120 years service this year - to hear Nick Barrett talk about Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming. You know about lucid dreaming - when you become lucid during a dream and realise that what you are experiencing is a dream. I've had that happen to me a few times but each time I woke up shortly after the realisation. Those who take the trouble to master the art claim that a lucid dream experience is as subjectively real as - well - reality! The bonus feature is that, as you are aware it is your own dream, you can take command of the situation and direct the movie you're watching. Claims are made that you can conjure up your favourite film star as a companion, soar off together into the stratosphere, picnic together on one of the moons of Jupiter, make passionate love, and . . .well, you get the picture, do whatever takes your fancy. Hell, you could even fly over to Fairfield, enter the Golden Dome, and have those hoppers gawking up at you as you demonstrate your levitational skills. Nick Barrett's originality is that he says he started talking to the dream figures he encountered and asking them who they were. Most of them looked back at him with a blank expression - as if to say: we're just your subconscious, mate. But some of them had a light in their eyes - like your everyday folk - and were able to answer his questions about problems he had. He eventually made contact with his guardian angel, who is now his regular companion in dreamland. Nick enthuses that his angel has helped him resolve many of his psychological issues. Maybe Freud missed a trick here when he suspected that dreams were the royal road to the unconscious. It's intriguing stuff, and Nick didn't strike me as a nut job. I asked him if his spirit guide knew things his subconscious couldn't be expected to know. I had in mind finding out which horse would win the 2.10 at Ascot on Saturday but he innocently replied about his guide knowing things about himself and his own past he couldn't recall. Makes me wonder though if in decades hence all children will be taught how to lucid dream as a matter of course.
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Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
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I leave it out when it doesn't seem necessary and I'm rushing. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming As you know, Share, you are being disingenuous to say my question is disingenuous, And you know exactly what I'm asking about and why: You do often leave out the definite article. Is that what you were taught to do in your grammar course, and sometimes you just forget and put it in anyway? Or did they teach you to leave it out sometimes, whenever you felt like it? Or what? Or is leaving out the article just an affectation that you think makes you look cute and smart? Because it sure doesn't make you look as if you ever actually took a grammar course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
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I think we should make a new rule: that though it's not ok to end a sentence with a preposition, it is ok if one ends a sentence with 2 prepositions. They sort of cancel each other out, kind of like 2 negatives making a positive. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming You're onto a loser with this one. Like you, I really enjoy it when I read a sentence that has the possessive - it sounds so right, so justly chosen - but I'm probably too lazy a writer to spot my own oversights. And, for sure, out there amongst the great unwashed no one would understand what you're on about. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
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Ok then, just another way that we're different. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Everybody thinks much faster than they type. I would not be able to leave out a the without having made a conscious decision to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think it's more because I think so much faster than I type. It's not a conscious decision. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming I see. I don't know anybody else who does that. Is it because you're such a slow typist that four keystrokes would take so long that you wouldn't be able to finish what you had to say? How do you decide which the to leave out? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I leave it out when it doesn't seem necessary and I'm rushing. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming As you know, Share, you are being disingenuous to say my question is disingenuous, And you know exactly what I'm asking about and why: You do often leave out the definite article. Is that what you were taught to do in your grammar course, and sometimes you just forget and put it in anyway? Or did they teach you to leave it out sometimes, whenever you felt like it? Or what? Or is leaving out the article just an affectation that you think makes you look cute and smart? Because it sure doesn't make you look as if you ever actually took a grammar course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
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I think it's more because I think so much faster than I type. It's not a conscious decision. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming I see. I don't know anybody else who does that. Is it because you're such a slow typist that four keystrokes would take so long that you wouldn't be able to finish what you had to say? How do you decide which the to leave out? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I leave it out when it doesn't seem necessary and I'm rushing. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming As you know, Share, you are being disingenuous to say my question is disingenuous, And you know exactly what I'm asking about and why: You do often leave out the definite article. Is that what you were taught to do in your grammar course, and sometimes you just forget and put it in anyway? Or did they teach you to leave it out sometimes, whenever you felt like it? Or what? Or is leaving out the article just an affectation that you think makes you look cute and smart? Because it sure doesn't make you look as if you ever actually took a grammar course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
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Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
