Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we really all alone?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/27/2014 3:47 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It all depends on how you look at the universe.  If you think that the 
world is based in consciousness, then life is present in all of 
creation.  The suns can be considered the manifestations of 
consciousness which can be seen as stars in the night sky from Earth.


/We transcendentalists are saying that the physical world is based on 
causality and that pure consciousness is transcendental or beyond the 
material world of change. This view implies that material objects such 
as the suns, planets and sky are the result of cause and effect.//All 
material objects by definition are inanimate.


Since only humans are self-conscious, we conclude that consciousness is 
life itself. Ergo only humans can experience the transcendental pure 
consciousness. //When an aspirant truly realize this, they are enlightened./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we really all alone?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

It all depends on how you look at the universe.


On 10/27/2014 4:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

A good description of reality won't depend on how we look at it. In 
fact, it's the aim of science to explain the universe and everything 
in it independent of our opinions and beliefs.


/Everything depends on how we look at it. You just posted a tautology, a 
theory of naive realism, an opinion and a belief. //Go figure./



If you think that the world is based in consciousness,


Which I most definitely do not, that being a religious idea that 
explains nothing and in fact, makes things harder to understand 
because it requires an explanation as to how this consciousness came 
into being.


/Perception of any kind is based on consciousness - we have first to be 
conscious in order to experience anything. All ideas and thoughts are 
non-material. When you understand the idealist point of view, everything 
becomes easy to explain. Being aware that you are conscious does not 
require an understanding of the mechanics of consciousness or the 
cosmological origin of the universe. It is dirt simple./