Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
On 07/03/2011 06:59 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/02/2011 06:39 PM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: For our FFL billionaires who have worked so hard by the sweat of their brow (apparently at near light speed) to earn their huge fortune here is a great article: http://consortiumnews.com/2011/06/28/how-greed-destroys-america/ So Bhairitu, why don't you start your own business and get Rich? Is there something wrong with that? Is this the voice of experience? Are you one of the FFL billionaires? Just starting a business won't make you rich. It has to be the right business at the right time with the right idea. And you also need to be a business freak and not everyone is. So let's get this straight, a business owner risks his time and capital and now that he's Rich you want to go in there, take his money, and tell him where he must spend it? What gives you the right to do such a thing? And you claim to be 'holier than thou' with such a philosophy? What a hypocrite; rich people give plenty to the charities *they* choose, please don't pat yourself on the back with such an idea. It's merely taking money you haven't earned and forcing Rich people to give it to whom you (and your liberal cronies) decide is most worthy. YOU accrue no personal merit in such a transaction other than smug self-righteousness! and end up punishing the very people who create wealth and creative ideas, you'd better take a long look in the mirror, why such disdain for the Rich? Are you even or have ever been a business owner? You seem to be another spectator theorizing how business works. I have a business and have run and managed other ones. It's not really my cup of tea but sometimes you have to do it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
On 07/03/2011 09:13 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/03/2011 06:59 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 07/02/2011 06:39 PM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@wrote: For our FFL billionaires who have worked so hard by the sweat of their brow (apparently at near light speed) to earn their huge fortune here is a great article: http://consortiumnews.com/2011/06/28/how-greed-destroys-america/ So Bhairitu, why don't you start your own business and get Rich? Is there something wrong with that? Is this the voice of experience? Are you one of the FFL billionaires? Just starting a business won't make you rich. It has to be the right business at the right time with the right idea. And you also need to be a business freak and not everyone is. So let's get this straight, a business owner risks his time and capital and now that he's Rich you want to go in there, take his money, and tell him where he must spend it? What gives you the right to do such a thing? And you claim to be 'holier than thou' with such a philosophy? What a hypocrite; rich people give plenty to the charities *they* choose, please don't pat yourself on the back with such an idea. It's merely taking money you haven't earned and forcing Rich people to give it to whom you (and your liberal cronies) decide is most worthy. YOU accrue no personal merit in such a transaction other than smug self-righteousness! and end up punishing the very people who create wealth and creative ideas, you'd better take a long look in the mirror, why such disdain for the Rich? Are you even or have ever been a business owner? You seem to be another spectator theorizing how business works. I have a business and have run and managed other ones. It's not really my cup of tea but sometimes you have to do it. Perhaps you see yourself as a 'victim' in life, you may feel life hasn't treated you fairly so, like a child you want to up end the game board and start over, and this time YOU, (in your Godly wisdom) will distribute the game pieces according to YOUR will...yes? A little *class envy* there huh, Bhairitu? Oh so you are not going answer my question? You're going to deflect instead and paint me as something I'm not. Then we can assume you're only an armchair businessman? And I bet you've never even seen anything above a 5 figure salary.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
Why would he bother when all he has to do is act dumb and pathetic and find someone else to organize the social welfare program smorgasbord for him to feed off of. Why use you own talents (might be a strain) when you can use somebody else's? This is the real greed that destroys America, not innovation From: wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, July 2, 2011 6:39:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: For our FFL billionaires who have worked so hard by the sweat of their brow (apparently at near light speed) to earn their huge fortune here is a great article: http://consortiumnews.com/2011/06/28/how-greed-destroys-america/ So Bhairitu, why don't you start your own business and get Rich? Is there something wrong with that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
On 07/03/2011 10:31 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Oh so you are not going answer my question? You're going to deflect instead and paint me as something I'm not. Then we can assume you're only an armchair businessman? And I bet you've never even seen anything above a 5 figure salary. Never claimed to be anything other than my opinion! You strike me as the classic I'm a victim sort of person... Yeah, I'm a victim alright of a tech company IPO back in the 1990s. See I DO know what it is to have money and a six figure income. You obviously don't. You just champion the status quo and are still waiting for the trickle down. The status quo will trickle down alright, they'll just pee all over you. That's the thanks you'll get. The rich don't give a shit about you. I don't want to be a wealthy person in a poor country. I don't want to try to figure out if the person begging on the street has real needs or is going to take the quarter I give them along with the ones they've been collecting all morning and dodge into the convenience store and buy a can of malt liquor. This weekend we celebrate something. No, it's that Walmart, Home Depot and tons of other stores are having a Fourth of July sale that you can raise your can of Coors in salute. No, there were these group of people who you would have called victims who were victims of a large multinational company known as the British East India Company. Their principal stockholder was the King of England and by your logic apparently worked very hard by the sweat of his brow to amass such wealth. This group of victims never again wanted the wealthy to rule (and ruin) their lives so they created this document known as The Declaration of Independence. They also after they formed a nation had a law that did not allow corporations to stay in existence any longer than 40 years and had to server the public good as part of their charter. Sadly after the Civil War that law went away through a supreme court decision. And then the nation began to be run by robber barons like the Koch brothers. You must be a member of their gang.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
Did you lose your reading specs, Mike? I already wrote that I run a business. I just don't want others fall through the cracks nor to be unfairly challenged by companies that have pulled the ladder up and actually gamed the government you hate so much to block any competition. But I'm sure you raise your can of Coors in salute to the robber barons. Smörgåsbord? Well I pay gas taxes. I want that money to go to keeping the roads up, not just for me but everybody. I pay property taxes (and so do renters as part of rent) so the fire department can come and put out a fire if I have one or as they did a couple years ago block the street when a tree fell on a power pole and knocked the high tension line into the street. Or the police to come and arrest some burglar breaking into my house. But you don't want to pay taxes and probably live in a Road Warrior society. To each his own I guess. On 07/03/2011 11:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Why would he bother when all he has to do is act dumb and pathetic and find someone else to organize the social welfare program smorgasbord for him to feed off of. Why use you own talents (might be a strain) when you can use somebody else's? This is the real greed that destroys America, not innovation From: wgm4uwg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, July 2, 2011 6:39:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: For our FFL billionaires who have worked so hard by the sweat of their brow (apparently at near light speed) to earn their huge fortune here is a great article: http://consortiumnews.com/2011/06/28/how-greed-destroys-america/ So Bhairitu, why don't you start your own business and get Rich? Is there something wrong with that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
On 07/03/2011 01:07 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriendjstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uwgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriendjstein@ wrote: snip So let's get this straight, a business owner risks his time and capital and now that he's Rich you want to go in there, take his money, and tell him where he must spend it? FYI, the government is currently taking a *record low* percentage of the income of the wealthiest in this country. What gives you the right to do such a thing? The same thing that gives the business owner the right to take advantage of what the government supplies for the common good in order to make his money. The business owner also needs to recognize that for his business to be successful, he needs a *market*, people who can afford to buy the products he makes or the services he supplies. If a huge percentage of the money in the country is flowing to the wealthy while the income of the rest of the population is increasingly squeezed just to pay for shelter and food, where is the business owner going to sell his products or services? The kind of economy in which the wealthy business owner can continue to prosper is dependent on the financial well-being of everybody else. It's in the business owner's *self-interest* to pay taxes so the government can fund the services he depends on to run his business (e.g., highways). It's in his *self- interest* to pay taxes so the government can fund social programs that enable people to maintain a decent standard of living. Are you familiar with the story about killing the goose that laid the golden egg? Sorry Judy, I wouldn't know where to begin to unravel that, we'll just have to agree to disagree, (any takers?) You mean, My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts? Sure, your choice. wgm4u probably believes these facts as well: 1. Obama is a socialist. 2. The economic collapse of 2008 was brought about by too much regulation. 3. The New Deal caused the Depression. 4. Hitler was a left-winger. 5. Stalin killed more people than Hitler did. 6. Joe McCarthy was right. 7. In 1970, most returning Vietnam veterans supported Nixon and detested the hippies who spat on them. They especially despised Jane Fonda. 8. Free trade helped America to prosper in the 19th century. 9. A great company like Toyota can grow only if a government follows strict laissez-faire policies. 10. Lower taxes on the rich increase government revenues. 11. A left-wing conspiracy controls the media. 12. Milton Friedman and the libertarian Chicago school economists improved the quality of life in Latin America. Those converted to the twelve points listed above will never revise their opinions, no matter how persuasive the counter-evidence. People believe what they want to believe. They will accept any argument, however absurd, from those who flatter their preconceptions. http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/07/moo-moo-moo.html Not to mention that if wgm4u were a business owner would also not hesitate to offshore his manufacturing to make more profit for himself. Yeh, so much for the hard working American he so embraces.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Greed Destroys America
On 07/02/2011 06:39 PM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: For our FFL billionaires who have worked so hard by the sweat of their brow (apparently at near light speed) to earn their huge fortune here is a great article: http://consortiumnews.com/2011/06/28/how-greed-destroys-america/ So Bhairitu, why don't you start your own business and get Rich? Is there something wrong with that? Is this the voice of experience? Are you one of the FFL billionaires? Just starting a business won't make you rich. It has to be the right business at the right time with the right idea. And you also need to be a business freak and not everyone is.
