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george_deforest wrote: Their commitment is to Save N. America from some terrible event or series of events. Even eliminating the stress of earthquakes ... We had an earthquake in Berkeley, California today (Wednesday) around 7:15 PM local time. i definitely felt the shake, centered only about a mile from my apt. The quake measured 3.7 on the scale -- not enough to do real damage. more details: http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc51177042.htm Did you feel the one last night (the 22nd) at 10:47 PM also in the same spot and same magnitude? The Hayward fault seems to be waking up. Oh boy!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info earth quakes losts of small ones OK
Lots of minor ones frequently do relieve there built up stresses so larger ones may not then occur etc.
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george_deforest wrote: Their commitment is to Save N. America from some terrible event or series of events. Even eliminating the stress of earthquakes ... We had an earthquake in Berkeley, California today (Wednesday) around 7:15 PM local time. i definitely felt the shake, centered only about a mile from my apt. The quake measured 3.7 on the scale -- not enough to do real damage. more details: http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc51177042.htm I noticed it rolled quite a bit longer than the one we had a few months back. I'm about 15 miles from the epicenter.
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get the CIA reports on Mahesh via the Freedom of Information Act? That would be interesting to see. Interesting point- Prompted by your remark, I was searching both the Department of State and CIA websites just now for references to TM, Maharishi, and the Dalai Lama. Not much on TM- A couple of references on the State Dept. website regarding relgious freedom in Austria and the Netherlands. Regarding the Dalai Lama: From Questions Pertaining to Tibet (1969-1972)-- http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/70146.pdf During the first Nixon administration (1969–1972), the U.S. Government continued its decade-long support of the Dalai Lama and his followers, including political action, propaganda, and paramilitary activity... Funds also were provided to the Dalai Lama for his propaganda efforts ...This operation began during the second Eisenhower administration(1957–1961) and continued through the Kennedy and Johnson administrations... The total cost of the Tibetan program ...was approximately $2.5 million per year with $500,000 of that figure for non-guerrilla political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. ...CIA Tibetan activities, utilizing followers of the Dalai Lama, have included in addition to guerrilla support a program of political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. Interesting that Maharishi claims the CIA opposes him, but for Tibetan Buddhists, the CIA was an ally. I imagine that there is still active espionage going on or it is so controversial there will be some time till it is released. It's not surprising that any radical religious zealot would be a target of CIA activities--esp. one bent on world domination like M. re: world domination- well, you gotta start somewhere...:-) Jim, here's some more fodder for you -- on the Dalai Lama Tibetan Buddhism's secret agenda for world domination :-) http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/Kalachakra/dec.eng..htm The Trimondi's are Opus Dei fronts and were originally deployed by the then head of the inquisition, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger--now known as Pope Benedict XVI. They specialize in spreading disinformation regarding Tibetan Buddhism. Some of it is pretty hilarious. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Jim, here's some more fodder for you -- on the Dalai Lama Tibetan Buddhism's secret agenda for world domination :-) What?! I thought that was the agenda for the Jews and the homosexuals, or maybe it was Jewish homosexuals. Glad to hear that others are also with the program, though. Those on the front lines will surely appreciate the help. :) Sal
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 10:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Actually, Sal, this theory comes from the folks at MICROSOFT, who really *are* set on world domination. Really? I didn't know Bill Gates was Jewish. Sal
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Jack Kornfield, founder of Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Marin County, was among a group of two dozen Western teachers who discussed the sexual misconduct of Buddhist teachers with the Dalai Lama last year in India. According to Kornfield, the Tibetan Buddhist leader told the Americans to always let people know when things are wrong. Put it in the newspapers if you must do so. Amen.
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 11:47 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Judging from the picture, it sure looks like the Tibetan Buddhists beat the TMO to the punch regarding wearing silly stuff on their heads. I guess those TM Rajas don't look so weird after all? :-) Pretty low bar you've set there. Sal
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2006, at 11:47 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Judging from the picture, it sure looks like the Tibetan Buddhists beat the TMO to the punch regarding wearing silly stuff on their heads. I guess those TM Rajas don't look so weird after all? :-) Pretty low bar you've set there. Sal Bar, belle? Better than a dumbelle, I guess. :)
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Why do you have to be such a fucking idiot? Leave Tibetan Buddhism alone. It is only bothering me, and I am not even part of your stupid conversation. If you guys keep at this shit I will leave the group as I cannot belong to a place of people slandering my religion. A follower of the Dalai lama gave me 20,000 bucks after Katrina to help me. Not one of you silly fuckers helped me for shit. So back the fuck off. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Jim, here's some more fodder for you -- on the Dalai Lama Tibetan Buddhism's secret agenda for world domination :-) http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/Kalachakra/dec.eng..htm Hi Rory, Thanks- looks interesting. Of course my intent in all this is more to provide a tour of some of the prominent glass houses here in our FFL neighborhood. :-) Jim, with all due respect, I don't think you're fooling anyone. This is just a suggestion. You can keep on trying to dig up and post as much dirt about the Dalai Lama and about Tibetan Buddhism as you like. Hi, Actually it was *Rory* who dug up and posted the last bit of dirt about the Dalai Lama and about Tibetan Buddhism, without any prompting from me I should add. (Even taking the paradox of Brahman into account, he and I continue to operate as seperate heads on the same body.) :-) Anyway, you reminded me. So here's more dirt: From 10-17-1994 Best-selling Buddhist author accused of sexual abuse www.well.com/conf/media/SF_Free_Press/nov11/guru.html $10 million civil suit filed in Santa Cruz by a woman who says Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, coerced her into an intimate relationship By Don Lattin Special to the Free Press SAN FRANCISCO -- .a group of American Buddhist women have launched a campaign to expose the alleged sexual misconduct of a prominent Tibetan lama and best-selling author. Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, is accused of physical, mental and sexual abuse in a $10 million civil suit filed last week in Santa Cruz County Superior Court. According to the lawsuit, an anonymous woman identified only as Janice Doe came to Rinpoche for spiritual guidance last year at a retreat sponsored by the Rigpa Fellowship meditation center in Santa Cruz, but was coerced into an intimate relationship with the Tibetan guru. Sogyal claimed (she) would be strengthened and healed by having sex with him and that to be hit by a lama was a blessing, the lawsuit states. The suit -- which accuses Rinpoche of fraud, assault and battery, infliction of emotional distress and breach of fiduciary duty -- also charges that the Tibetan lama has seduced many other female students for his own sexual gratification. Sandra Pawula, spokeswoman for the Rigpa Fellowship of Santa Cruz, one of many meditation centers in the United States, Europe and Australia, declined to comment about the allegations, but said that Rinpoche is not married and does not claim to be a celibate monk. Rinpoche, who lives abroad, could not be reached for comment. The lawsuit follows a letter-writing campaign to the Dalai Lama by American women concerned about alleged sexual exploitation by Rinpoche and several lesser-known Tibetan lamas. What some of these students have experienced is terrible and most unfortunate, said Tenzin Geyche Tethong, the Dharamsala-based secretary to the Dalai Lama. In a letter sent earlier this year to one of the women, Tethong said Tibetan Buddhist leaders have been aware of these (allegations) for some years now. Jack Kornfield, founder of Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Marin County, was among a group of two dozen Western teachers who discussed the sexual misconduct of Buddhist teachers with the Dalai Lama last year in India. According to Kornfield, the Tibetan Buddhist leader told the Americans to always let people know when things are wrong. Put it in the newspapers if you must do so. Another woman allegedly abused by Rinpoche, Victoria Barlow of New York City, said she is disgusted by the way the Tibetans have manipulated the reverence Westerners have for the Buddhist path. Barlow, 40, said she first met Rinpoche in the mid-1970s, when she was 21, and that she was sexually exploited by him during meditation retreats in New York and Berkeley. I went to an apartment to see a highly esteemed lama and discuss religion, she said in an interview with the Free Press. He opened the door without a shirt on and with a beer in his hand. Once they were on the sofa, Barlow said, the Tibetan lunged at me with sloppy kisses and groping. I thought I should take it as the deepest compliment that he was interested and basically surrender to him,
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Geez, who pissed in *your* coffee this morning?? All you people who have no greater thing to do than sit around and badspeak holy people.
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Fuck it, you're on spam list Jim. Later. Maybe next life I'll read you again. Useless, waste of reading you are. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Thank you for this- I am familiar with all of the experiential dynamics you are describing here, but still don't get the context of the devata-particles. Are they beings that become visible within the localized body (Jim's two arms, legs, etc.), when we choose to look for them there, or viewed in our consciousness, though appearing external to ourselves? I am not sure I get the distinction ... Is your body not viewed in your consciousness, though appearing external to yourself? :-) It figures. Thanks Rory- Always a pleasure to interact with you! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats your claim, and certainly your ignorance. 1 armed american caught on the bridge between Sonnenberg and the Kulm, Maharishis DC3 blown upp on an airport in Switzerland 20 minutes before scheduled takeoff. That and other incidents certainly involved more resources than having a couple of souls exposing their ignorance on FFL. The times are changing. I never heard of these before. Did you have a trustworthy source for these alleged events? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: This Vaj/llundrup team, what payroll are they on ? Nablus, I notice that you say this from time to time. Do you really believe that there are people on this list that are getting paid by some sort of organization to sow disent and discord? Yes I do. The question is, who pays Nablus to be such an ignorant bigot? Must be Benjamin Creme, because TMers do it for free. Thats your claim, and certainly your ignorance. 1 armed american caught on the bridge between Sonnenberg and the Kulm, Maharishis DC3 blown upp on an airport in Switzerland 20 minutes before scheduled takeoff. That and other incidents certainly involved more resources than having a couple of souls exposing their ignorance on FFL. The times are changing. The times are changing, and yet the insane stay insane. :-) I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get the CIA reports on Mahesh via the Freedom of Information Act? That would be interesting to see.
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On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get the CIA reports on Mahesh via the Freedom of Information Act? That would be interesting to see. Interesting point- Prompted by your remark, I was searching both the Department of State and CIA websites just now for references to TM, Maharishi, and the Dalai Lama. Not much on TM- A couple of references on the State Dept. website regarding relgious freedom in Austria and the Netherlands. Isn't this the religious party M. backs? If so, no wonder the CIA has their eyes on him! Perhaps the TMO is just a front org for milking the cash-laden untouchables of the west. http://www.proxsa.org/politics/hindutva/partha.html
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On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get the CIA reports on Mahesh via the Freedom of Information Act? That would be interesting to see. Interesting point- Prompted by your remark, I was searching both the Department of State and CIA websites just now for references to TM, Maharishi, and the Dalai Lama. Not much on TM- A couple of references on the State Dept. website regarding relgious freedom in Austria and the Netherlands. Regarding the Dalai Lama: From Questions Pertaining to Tibet (1969-1972)-- http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/70146.pdf During the first Nixon administration (1969–1972), the U.S. Government continued its decade-long support of the Dalai Lama and his followers, including political action, propaganda, and paramilitary activity... Funds also were provided to the Dalai Lama for his propaganda efforts ...This operation began during the second Eisenhower administration(1957–1961) and continued through the Kennedy and Johnson administrations... The total cost of the Tibetan program ...was approximately $2.5 million per year with $500,000 of that figure for non-guerrilla political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. ...CIA Tibetan activities, utilizing followers of the Dalai Lama, have included in addition to guerrilla support a program of political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. Interesting that Maharishi claims the CIA opposes him, but for Tibetan Buddhists, the CIA was an ally. I imagine that there is still active espionage going on or it is so controversial there will be some time till it is released. It's not surprising that any radical religious zealot would be a target of CIA activities--esp. one bent on world domination like M.
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This sort of guru bashing leads to hell. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get the CIA reports on Mahesh via the Freedom of Information Act? That would be interesting to see. Interesting point- Prompted by your remark, I was searching both the Department of State and CIA websites just now for references to TM, Maharishi, and the Dalai Lama. Not much on TM- A couple of references on the State Dept. website regarding relgious freedom in Austria and the Netherlands. Regarding the Dalai Lama: From Questions Pertaining to Tibet (1969-1972)-- http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/70146.pdf During the first Nixon administration (1969-1972), the U.S. Government continued its decade-long support of the Dalai Lama and his followers, including political action, propaganda, and paramilitary activity... Funds also were provided to the Dalai Lama for his propaganda efforts ...This operation began during the second Eisenhower administration(1957-1961) and continued through the Kennedy and Johnson administrations... The total cost of the Tibetan program ...was approximately $2.5 million per year with $500,000 of that figure for non-guerrilla political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. ...CIA Tibetan activities, utilizing followers of the Dalai Lama, have included in addition to guerrilla support a program of political, propaganda, and intelligence operations. Interesting that Maharishi claims the CIA opposes him, but for Tibetan Buddhists, the CIA was an ally. Enemy of my enemy... Playing them off against China. And China is STILL an enemy, according to the neocons. The most important long-term reason to invade Iraq was to create military bases there in order to have a friendly place to position American troops in order to bring pressure to bear on China, or so the PNAC white paper, signed off by everybody who was anybody in the first BW administration, says, including Brother Jeb. I heard oil control as well to China, Europe and Japan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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No, that's the result of doubting the source of the path you're on or have been on. To bash the way is to bash oneself. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sort of guru bashing leads to hell. Oh, is that where we are? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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It sounds as if these perticular people long for warm clothes and to be treated as if they were human beings, not imported slave labor. They have my best wishes, because it looks as if they're going to need them... -If your ultimate usefulness is your consciousness then it's as if you have your whole life ordered to that, just as the whole orange tree is squeezed into containers for your juicy pleasure. If some pundit grows a pair of balls they can escape. It would make a great movie. These persons in the US to bring enlightenment who don't know how to do anything. Great irony. I guess it already was made into movies before like the Garp flick and so onSeems to be a continuum that those who think they're smartest do the stupidest things. God is an irone. Isn't that what someone said recently?
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Surprisingly so. It's unlike Jim to be this angry. He must have had a twist in his panties yesterday. -Frankly, his lack of understanding, wish to trample my religion (whether he was right or not), and wish to beat Vaj at some game have lowered my estimation of him. I didn't know he was such a putz.This is why people that take pictures with gurus and post them on the internet as if they mean something are not to be trusted. I had thought Jim was a wiser, smarter person. I guess one expects more maturity from others as they all get older.
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On Dec 12, 2006, at 10:49 AM, llundrub wrote: It sounds as if these perticular people long for warm clothes and to be treated as if they were human beings, not imported slave labor. They have my best wishes, because it looks as if they're going to need them... -If your ultimate usefulness is your consciousness then it's as if you have your whole life ordered to that, just as the whole orange tree is squeezed into containers for your juicy pleasure. If some pundit grows a pair of balls they can escape. It would make a great movie. These persons in the US to bring enlightenment who don't know how to do anything. Great irony. I guess it already was made into movies before like the Garp flick and so onSeems to be a continuum that those who think they're smartest do the stupidest things. God is an irone. Isn't that what someone said recently? My biggest surprise was that no one seemed concerned that the TMer's cleaning their toilets could do so because they were viewed as untouchables. It also should give some insight into how M. views his western followers. Time to call Amnesty International?
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On Dec 12, 2006, at 2:00 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote: If you think Vaj is a TB, I guess you never really talked to him or heard his talk on Spiritual Anarchy and how genuine spirituality is anarchistic by nature... Kind of funny to say someone that calls himself Vajranatha is a spiritual anarchist, don't you think? That name sounds very much aligned with organized religion, probably Tibetan Buddhism. Oh well, one person's spiritual anarchist is another's religous shill, eh? It's official. Jim has become Judy. Must be the soybeans. :-) I always just assumed he was holding his quartz crystal too tightly. They are very similar. He doesn't even realize that the basic precepts of spiritual anarchy are actually on the FFL front page: Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Dharma-pada, Buddha Shakyamuni I can recommend no less.
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- Original Message - From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info Surprisingly so. It's unlike Jim to be this angry. He must have had a twist in his panties yesterday. The other remark I have about my challenges to you and Vaj yesterday was that here you sit day after day after day, challenging much of what TM is and who Maharishi is, and all who respond do so in the context of evaluating TM and Maharishi. So yesterday, understanding that I apply merciless rigor to TM and Maharishi and the TMO with regard to my acceptance or not of them, I decided why should Turq and Vaj be getting a free ride out of all of this? Why not apply the same rigor and scrutiny to their practices as I do to my own? And the results were very eye opening, you True Believers you!...Lol! :-) Om mani peme hung
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This Vaj/llundrup team, what payroll are they on ? We're not on a team, we're merely up your tight ass.
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--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surprisingly so. It's unlike Jim to be this angry. He must have had a twist in his panties yesterday. -Frankly, his lack of understanding, wish to trample my religion (whether he was right or not), and wish to beat Vaj at some game have lowered my estimation of him. I didn't know he was such a putz.This is why people that take pictures with gurus and post them on the internet as if they mean something are not to be trusted. I had thought Jim was a wiser, smarter person. I guess one expects more maturity from others as they all get older. This Vaj/llundrup team, what payroll are they on ? Nablus, I notice that you say this from time to time. Do you really believe that there are people on this list that are getting paid by some sort of organization to sow disent and discord? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
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On Dec 12, 2006, at 2:33 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 12, 2006, at 2:00 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote: If you think Vaj is a TB, I guess you never really talked to him or heard his talk on Spiritual Anarchy and how genuine spirituality is anarchistic by nature... Kind of funny to say someone that calls himself Vajranatha is a spiritual anarchist, don't you think? That name sounds very much aligned with organized religion, probably Tibetan Buddhism. Oh well, one person's spiritual anarchist is another's religous shill, eh? It's official. Jim has become Judy. Must be the soybeans. :-) I always just assumed he was holding his quartz crystal too tightly. They are very similar. He doesn't even realize that the basic precepts of spiritual anarchy are actually on the FFL front page: Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Dharma-pada, Buddha Shakyamuni I can recommend no less. Got it, Ken. Thanks Barbie!
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--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote: Surprisingly so. It's unlike Jim to be this angry. He must have had a twist in his panties yesterday. -Frankly, his lack of understanding, wish to trample my religion (whether he was right or not), and wish to beat Vaj at some game have lowered my estimation of him. I didn't know he was such a putz.This is why people that take pictures with gurus and post them on the internet as if they mean something are not to be trusted. I had thought Jim was a wiser, smarter person. I guess one expects more maturity from others as they all get older. This Vaj/llundrup team, what payroll are they on ? Nablus, I notice that you say this from time to time. Do you really believe that there are people on this list that are getting paid by some sort of organization to sow disent and discord? Yes I do. Really? H. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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Yes I do. Really? H. :o
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On Dec 11, 2006, at 10:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 11, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Rick Archer wrote: For this they use several translators. Three inside the group but some outside the fence/cage. (The pundits' living area is a cantonment surrounded by a high chain link fence, covered with a tarp, so that they cannot get out or even see out, except out the rear in the direction of some private stapathya ved homes, nor can others get or see in.) • My personal feeling it's not the best for them. Understatement of the year. Is this even legal? Once more the TMO goes out of its way to show its warmth, friendliness, and ability to deal effectively with reality. What's next, I wonder--underground bunkers? What's next is fairly obvious. One or more of these pundit kids is going to make a break for it, and leave the compound. What the TM movement *does* about that will be interesting to see. What will be interesting as well is if they even make it known that it's happened. Given their penchant for non-communication, I'd guess we'll never find out. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sounds like the Maharishi Gulag program. I think 60 Minutes might want to do a story. There is a unique feature here in Santa Clara, California where I live; a convent pretty much in the center of town, surrounded by adobe walls, about ten feet in height, the grounds sheltered by palms and a large grove of olive trees. There is a long driveway of about 75 yards to the main building, and although I have passed it many times, I've never been able to see anyone within the grounds. No windows are visible from the outside either. It has been around for about one hundred years. Poor bastards. I have no problem with the privacy of ashrams, monasteries, or convents. But those aren't prisons. People can still usually come and go. This just adds to the cultist reputation of the TM movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info
On Dec 11, 2006, at 3:11 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Assuming that they are being involutarily kept (and you know what they say about assumption...), sorta like those living involuntarily in exile from Tibet, former home of the failed tradition of Tibetan Buddhism. Well it's kind of a weird comparison--really a logical fallacy--an invalid comparison. Tibetan Buddhism isn't meant for waging wars, it's meant for liberation. So while yes it was not good for war, it was great for liberation. :-) So it therefore has been and still is a great success at what it's supposed to do: making Buddhas (and much more)! Or perhaps you imagine Buddhas are somehow like Superman, I'm really not sure. You just seem angry to me. Oh, except that there are what, several hundred pundits here, and several hundred thousand Tibetan exiles, perhaps millions? Yeah, Tibetan Buddhism sure looks after its people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Sounds like the Maharishi Gulag program. I think 60 Minutes might want to do a story. There is a unique feature here in Santa Clara, California where I live; a convent pretty much in the center of town, surrounded by adobe walls, about ten feet in height, the grounds sheltered by palms and a large grove of olive trees. There is a long driveway of about 75 yards to the main building, and although I have passed it many times, I've never been able to see anyone within the grounds. No windows are visible from the outside either. It has been around for about one hundred years. Poor bastards. I have no problem with the privacy of ashrams, monasteries, or convents. But those aren't prisons. People can still usually come and go. This just adds to the cultist reputation of the TM movement. Perhaps, but there is an issue with what visa was obtained for all these guys. What kind of commitments did the TMO have to make to get the visas for hundreds (thousands?) of unemployable young men to come to the country for 2 years? I would highly doubt that confinement was part of the commitments. If so it will make an issue to alert progressive leaders about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info
You just seem angry to me. -Rather petulant and childish to me.,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info
Well, game playing in any event. Really more of the same for here. On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:36 PM, llundrub wrote: You just seem angry to me. -Rather petulant and childish to me.,_
