Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I think he who knows nothing was making a reference to the occult, or something. Who knows? That is a case of the ego driving the mouth, and anything is possible. Beautiful combs! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That's funny as shit! As I said... At least Judy thought she knew what Bawee was trying to say in those two sentences because I didn't have a clue. Not only was the phrasing strange but the concept was stranger still. And Bawee has purportedly written a thesis on this forum?! And what sort of accessories does he think we all have that are often-unintended? I, for one, love these little hair combs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, and that ability has *absolutely nothing* to do with what is going on simultaneously in terms of personality and behavior? --Barry Wright, awhile back on alt.m.t This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I think what Barry means by what [they] do in their posts is the spin he puts on what they say, whether that's what they intended or not--e.g., if you or I say something negative about Barry, it's because we're trying desperately to force him to respond to us. Of course, that cuts both ways--e.g., when Barry gratuitously demeans somebody, it's because he's desperately trying to make himself feel Important and Superior. (I do think fleetwood was referring not to those remarks of Barry's but rather to the startling quote I found on alt.m.t--now snipped--in which Barry suggests that enlightenment has no relationship to behavior.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That's funny as shit! As I said... At least Judy thought she knew what Bawee was trying to say in those two sentences because I didn't have a clue. Not only was the phrasing strange but the concept was stranger still. And Bawee has purportedly written a thesis on this forum?! And what sort of accessories does he think we all have that are often-unintended? (snip) This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
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Did you miss the word allegedly, Barry? It is not a synonym for I believe... Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
You'll wait forever, given that Lawson never said he believed it. The rest of us will just laugh at you and go on about our business (so you can strike the we and just use I). Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
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Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? So you think yogi's live their whole life sitting down in a cave? I'm sure they would've had to have ventured out to the outhouse once in a while and who knows what lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) might have existed waiting to tear them apart of what precipices might have been in the vicinity for them to tumble off of. Expand the possibilities, old boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. I personally think this levitation thing is overrated. I'm happy when I just witness someone being kind or generous or interesting. The only floaters I've ever seen (and are likely to see) are in my own toilet bowl. That's it! I guess Rama was just one big turd in the toilet bowl of life. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : You'll wait forever, given that Lawson never said he believed it. The rest of us will just laugh at you and go on about our business (so you can strike the we and just use I). I think Bawee's still miffed that the guy he believed could levitate at will was still a fucked up, sad human being who ended his life so stoned out of his mind that he found out, to his dismay, that although he could levitate he couldn't, in the end, even swim. Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
One would think that someone posting here at least knew that committing suicide is a crime against oneself. Apparently I was wrong. Time to expand your possibilities of what might be right and wrong, old gal ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? So you think yogi's live their whole life sitting down in a cave? I'm sure they would've had to have ventured out to the outhouse once in a while and who knows what lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) might have existed waiting to tear them apart of what precipices might have been in the vicinity for them to tumble off of. Expand the possibilities, old boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One would think that someone posting here at least knew that committing suicide is a crime against oneself. Apparently I was wrong. Time to expand your possibilities of what might be right and wrong, old gal ? I'm not sure where you got the idea I was talking about suicide. You can get hit by a moving object or meet all sorts of untimely ends by mistake. I said falling down a well not throwing yourself down one for example. My reference to a guillotine had to do with a really quick and probably painless way to die but I haven't ordered mine yet from any online store, I'll probably get kicked in the head by some grumpy horse before that... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? So you think yogi's live their whole life sitting down in a cave? I'm sure they would've had to have ventured out to the outhouse once in a while and who knows what lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) might have existed waiting to tear them apart of what precipices might have been in the vicinity for them to tumble off of. Expand the possibilities, old boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death.
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Yogis don't commit fatal mistakes. One would think that someone posting here knew the basics. One would think that some ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One would think that someone posting here at least knew that committing suicide is a crime against oneself. Apparently I was wrong. Time to expand your possibilities of what might be right and wrong, old gal ? I'm not sure where you got the idea I was talking about suicide. You can get hit by a moving object or meet all sorts of untimely ends by mistake. I said falling down a well not throwing yourself down one for example. My reference to a guillotine had to do with a really quick and probably painless way to die but I haven't ordered mine yet from any online store, I'll probably get kicked in the head by some grumpy horse before that... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? So you think yogi's live their whole life sitting down in a cave? I'm sure they would've had to have ventured out to the outhouse once in a while and who knows what lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) might have existed waiting to tear them apart of what precipices might have been in the vicinity for them to tumble off of. Expand the possibilities, old boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. Ah, but he did take a friend through the great city of Amsterdam the other week and the two of them travelled from dimension to dimension, through reality to other reality all the while clopping along in their cute wooden shoes reminiscing about Rama days. Surely that counts for something? I think he said he was going to write a 70's genre song about it, complete with new age lyrics and there was going to be a video made, with singers and dancers dressed in high waisted, tight pants, billowing shirts and hair styles incorporating Afros and pony tails. I am looking forward to that video because I know Bawee must have some hidden talents that we are all, as of yet, unaware of. I'm sure he is a great choreographer, producer, cameraman and dancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yogis don't commit fatal mistakes. One would think that someone posting here knew the basics. One would think that some ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One would think that someone posting here at least knew that committing suicide is a crime against oneself. Apparently I was wrong. Time to expand your possibilities of what might be right and wrong, old gal ? I'm not sure where you got the idea I was talking about suicide. You can get hit by a moving object or meet all sorts of untimely ends by mistake. I said falling down a well not throwing yourself down one for example. My reference to a guillotine had to do with a really quick and probably painless way to die but I haven't ordered mine yet from any online store, I'll probably get kicked in the head by some grumpy horse before that... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So you think a Yogi would be hit by a train in a cave, or commit suicide by jumping in front of a car ? So you think yogi's live their whole life sitting down in a cave? I'm sure they would've had to have ventured out to the outhouse once in a while and who knows what lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) might have existed waiting to tear them apart of what precipices might have been in the vicinity for them to tumble off of. Expand the possibilities, old boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's the way nature use to finish of the life of a Yogi who is needed elsewhere. Countless Yogis die this quick way to continue the work in the next realm. There are much quicker ways to die than cancer. Like getting hit by a car, train, plane crash, falling down a very deep well - the ways are endless. Cancer can take a long time. I'd prefer a guillotine myself, that would be my preferred mode of death.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yogis don't commit fatal mistakes. Don't be so sure, Jellystone Park is full of danger and Yogi is stepping out to do his business in the woods. One would think that someone posting here knew the basics. One would think that some ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
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I'm sorry, did you miss the word allegedly? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
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I hadn't heard that about him pretending to sit upright. Sad, if true, but what does that have to do with our discussion? Are you under teh impression that I think that Maharishi was in perfect health, especially by HIS definition, where someone in perfect health would automatically enlighten the entire world? L
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From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? I'm sorry, did you miss the word allegedly? Why even mention it, unless you consider it within the realm of possibility? My replies assumed you do. If you do not, consider them rhetorical questions. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
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Eh, well, it would be very exciting should it ever be proven to exist, for many reasons. Of course, if it is some arbitrary non-TMer, who ends up floating and it turns out to have nothing to do with spiritual growth ala TM, then I'd be sad on one level and excited on another. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. I personally think this levitation thing is overrated. I'm happy when I just witness someone being kind or generous or interesting. The only floaters I've ever seen (and are likely to see) are in my own toilet bowl. That's it! I guess Rama was just one big turd in the toilet bowl of life. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
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Samadhier than the average bear... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yogis don't commit fatal mistakes. Don't be so sure, Jellystone Park is full of danger and Yogi is stepping out to do his business in the woods. One would think that someone posting here knew the basics. One would think that some ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
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I'd like it to be within the realm of possibility, wouldn't you? Wait, you're convinced that 1) you've already seen floating; 2) it has nothing to do with spirituality, even when in the context of the TM-Sidhis. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? I'm sorry, did you miss the word allegedly? Why even mention it, unless you consider it within the realm of possibility? My replies assumed you do. If you do not, consider them rhetorical questions. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
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From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Eh, well, it would be very exciting should it ever be proven to exist, for many reasons. Of course, if it is some arbitrary non-TMer, who ends up floating and it turns out to have nothing to do with spiritual growth ala TM, then I'd be sad on one level and excited on another. Ahem. That sadness identifies you more of a will to believe person than a wish to find out person. If you were the latter, there would be no possibility of sadness or disappointment, n'est-ce pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. I personally think this levitation thing is overrated. I'm happy when I just witness someone being kind or generous or interesting. The only floaters I've ever seen (and are likely to see) are in my own toilet bowl. That's it! I guess Rama was just one big turd in the toilet bowl of life. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I'd like it to be within the realm of possibility, wouldn't you? Physical immortality? Absolutely not. I have enough trouble being 68. :-) Seriously, I have never and will in all likelihood never be interested in physical immortality. It holds no interest for me whatsoever, because I hold no fear of death, only a sense of wonder at what's next. Wait, you're convinced that 1) you've already seen floating; 2) it has nothing to do with spirituality, even when in the context of the TM-Sidhis. I believe both. Do you, *not* having seen it, believe otherwise? If so, please explain why. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? I'm sorry, did you miss the word allegedly? Why even mention it, unless you consider it within the realm of possibility? My replies assumed you do. If you do not, consider them rhetorical questions. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Samadhier than the average bear... Funny. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yogis don't commit fatal mistakes. Don't be so sure, Jellystone Park is full of danger and Yogi is stepping out to do his business in the woods. One would think that someone posting here knew the basics. One would think that some ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
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Ha-ha - the wooden shoes! And all that multidimensional crap he spouts, just to hide the fact that she finds him sexually unattractive. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. Ah, but he did take a friend through the great city of Amsterdam the other week and the two of them travelled from dimension to dimension, through reality to other reality all the while clopping along in their cute wooden shoes reminiscing about Rama days. Surely that counts for something? I think he said he was going to write a 70's genre song about it, complete with new age lyrics and there was going to be a video made, with singers and dancers dressed in high waisted, tight pants, billowing shirts and hair styles incorporating Afros and pony tails. I am looking forward to that video because I know Bawee must have some hidden talents that we are all, as of yet, unaware of. I'm sure he is a great choreographer, producer, cameraman and dancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. C: Spiritual oneupmanship based on a self-reported state of mind... This connects back to the poster who said that I must never have transcended because if I had, I would have come to the same conclusions Maharishi did about the meaning of such experiences. It brings up an overarching problem with these self reported experiences and the language we use to describe them. Upon some reflection I see that that poster had a perfect right to challenge my self reported experience. Given my exposure to the organization and its programs designed to give such experiences, it would be sort of an indictment of the effectiveness of those programs or Maharishi's ability to certify people to represent his programs. But at its epistemological basis his POV was as valid as my own from one point of view. When we use the kind of words we have to in describing these experiences it is really all too vague to make any determination at all about what is going on inside another person. Unfortunately it also means that you are unlikely to get the traction you seek from this kind of I experience whatever and you don't putdown. Aside from my interest in the knowledge issues with self reported states of mind, I was prompted to respond to you post Jim because of what you said about cancer. Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. C: Do you realized that your misplaced confidence in your subjectively determined opinion about cancer (which is not supported by those whose job it is to actually study cancer) carries within it a nasty bit of victimizing the victim. You are essentially blaming people who die of cancer for their repressed block of emotion somehow 'solidifying into cancer as well as their lack of knowing themselves in every possible way. You are not the only one with this New Age belief about cancer. It is a popular idea among the crystals and Bach remedy crowd. I disagree with this POV and the confidence with which you posted it as a fact. I believe that this POV expressed by yourself and others causes much unnecessary pain for people going through cancer treatment and their families. I have had a few friends die of one of the forms of this disease before their time and I can tell you for a fact this kind of nonsense is a torment to them as they try to figure out if they are doing something wrong that is causing their fatal disease of causing the to (in another unfortunate metaphor) lose their battle with cancer. Humans don't understand all the factors that lead to many of the forms of cancer, but they do for some. We have made tremendous strides in treating those that we do understand and for some that are genetically based we have a direction for further research. There is no proven link between anyone's internal state of mind and their cancer. ( I know this will be met with the objection that your are talking about some inner quality that only people with your special state of mind can know about and scientists just don't know about it yet...uh huh... I think your POV victimizes the victim and makes it appear that they have failed in their spiritual quest in contrast to you who have succeeded (according to your own claims) and are therefore magically immune to cancer. And judging how you wield your self proclaimed special state of mind as a cudgel in putting others down here, I don't suspect you will be disturbed by the perhaps unintended consequence of your POV. There is an invincible smugness in your, I can't get cancer because of my spiritual attainments, that is impervious to feedback. I also predict that due to your non repressed block of emotions, I can expect an enthusiastic response. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]
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The utterly strange think is that the Turq refers to his two weeks of witnessing in Italy DECADES ago whenever someone here mentions spiritual experiences. What is this kind of nonsense, the fellow must be completely devoid of spiritual firsthand knowhow. So much for Buddhist meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Ha-ha - the wooden shoes! And all that multidimensional crap he spouts, just to hide the fact that she finds him sexually unattractive. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. Ah, but he did take a friend through the great city of Amsterdam the other week and the two of them travelled from dimension to dimension, through reality to other reality all the while clopping along in their cute wooden shoes reminiscing about Rama days. Surely that counts for something? I think he said he was going to write a 70's genre song about it, complete with new age lyrics and there was going to be a video made, with singers and dancers dressed in high waisted, tight pants, billowing shirts and hair styles incorporating Afros and pony tails. I am looking forward to that video because I know Bawee must have some hidden talents that we are all, as of yet, unaware of. I'm sure he is a great choreographer, producer, cameraman and dancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
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An enthusiastic response from me? Nope, just stay far enough away from me, to keep your bleeding heart from ruining my shirt. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. C: Spiritual oneupmanship based on a self-reported state of mind... This connects back to the poster who said that I must never have transcended because if I had, I would have come to the same conclusions Maharishi did about the meaning of such experiences. It brings up an overarching problem with these self reported experiences and the language we use to describe them. Upon some reflection I see that that poster had a perfect right to challenge my self reported experience. Given my exposure to the organization and its programs designed to give such experiences, it would be sort of an indictment of the effectiveness of those programs or Maharishi's ability to certify people to represent his programs. But at its epistemological basis his POV was as valid as my own from one point of view. When we use the kind of words we have to in describing these experiences it is really all too vague to make any determination at all about what is going on inside another person. Unfortunately it also means that you are unlikely to get the traction you seek from this kind of I experience whatever and you don't putdown. Aside from my interest in the knowledge issues with self reported states of mind, I was prompted to respond to you post Jim because of what you said about cancer. Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. C: Do you realized that your misplaced confidence in your subjectively determined opinion about cancer (which is not supported by those whose job it is to actually study cancer) carries within it a nasty bit of victimizing the victim. You are essentially blaming people who die of cancer for their repressed block of emotion somehow 'solidifying into cancer as well as their lack of knowing themselves in every possible way. You are not the only one with this New Age belief about cancer. It is a popular idea among the crystals and Bach remedy crowd. I disagree with this POV and the confidence with which you posted it as a fact. I believe that this POV expressed by yourself and others causes much unnecessary pain for people going through cancer treatment and their families. I have had a few friends die of one of the forms of this disease before their time and I can tell you for a fact this kind of nonsense is a torment to them as they try to figure out if they are doing something wrong that is causing their fatal disease of causing the to (in another unfortunate metaphor) lose their battle with cancer. Humans don't understand all the factors that lead to many of the forms of cancer, but they do for some. We have made tremendous strides in treating those that we do understand and for some that are genetically based we have a direction for further research. There is no proven link between anyone's internal state of mind and their cancer. ( I know this will be met with the objection that your are talking about some inner quality that only people with your special state of mind can know about and scientists just don't know about it yet...uh huh... I think your POV victimizes the victim and makes it appear that they have failed in their spiritual quest in contrast to you who have succeeded (according to your own claims) and are therefore magically immune to cancer. And judging how you wield your self proclaimed special state of mind as a cudgel in putting others down here, I don't suspect you will be disturbed by the perhaps unintended consequence of your POV. There is an invincible smugness in your, I can't get cancer because of my spiritual attainments, that is impervious to feedback. I also predict that due to your non repressed block of emotions, I can expect an enthusiastic response.
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Yes, these critics do not have a clue. Literally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The utterly strange think is that the Turq refers to his two weeks of witnessing in Italy DECADES ago whenever someone here mentions spiritual experiences. What is this kind of nonsense, the fellow must be completely devoid of spiritual firsthand knowhow. So much for Buddhist meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Ha-ha - the wooden shoes! And all that multidimensional crap he spouts, just to hide the fact that she finds him sexually unattractive. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. Ah, but he did take a friend through the great city of Amsterdam the other week and the two of them travelled from dimension to dimension, through reality to other reality all the while clopping along in their cute wooden shoes reminiscing about Rama days. Surely that counts for something? I think he said he was going to write a 70's genre song about it, complete with new age lyrics and there was going to be a video made, with singers and dancers dressed in high waisted, tight pants, billowing shirts and hair styles incorporating Afros and pony tails. I am looking forward to that video because I know Bawee must have some hidden talents that we are all, as of yet, unaware of. I'm sure he is a great choreographer, producer, cameraman and dancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. And you believe this why? But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. Oh, my bad. You believe it because some guy who could never demonstrate it said it. :-) Just as an additional point, haven't you seen the reports that many of these statements about immortality were spoken by a guy on videotapes that were filmed in the last few years of his life as he was lying prone on his bed, using a special (and rather deceptive) apparatus that made it appear as if he was sitting up. If you actually believe what he was purported to say about his ability to levitate, why couldn't he have just levitated over to the lecture hall and given these talks in person, and while actually sitting up? For that matter, if you believe that he was actually able to levitate and that there is some relationship between this and immortality, why did he die? We'll wait...
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Thank you for the clarity, Curtis, and for taking on this particular meme, and form of New Age shaming. I just finished reading a study in which a world-reknowned oncology (cancer) specialist was quoted as saying, Every human being on the planet has one or more cancer cells in their body at this point in time. The question is whether they will flourish and replicate. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. C: Spiritual oneupmanship based on a self-reported state of mind... This connects back to the poster who said that I must never have transcended because if I had, I would have come to the same conclusions Maharishi did about the meaning of such experiences. It brings up an overarching problem with these self reported experiences and the language we use to describe them. Upon some reflection I see that that poster had a perfect right to challenge my self reported experience. Given my exposure to the organization and its programs designed to give such experiences, it would be sort of an indictment of the effectiveness of those programs or Maharishi's ability to certify people to represent his programs. But at its epistemological basis his POV was as valid as my own from one point of view. When we use the kind of words we have to in describing these experiences it is really all too vague to make any determination at all about what is going on inside another person. Unfortunately it also means that you are unlikely to get the traction you seek from this kind of I experience whatever and you don't putdown. Aside from my interest in the knowledge issues with self reported states of mind, I was prompted to respond to you post Jim because of what you said about cancer. Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. C: Do you realized that your misplaced confidence in your subjectively determined opinion about cancer (which is not supported by those whose job it is to actually study cancer) carries within it a nasty bit of victimizing the victim. You are essentially blaming people who die of cancer for their repressed block of emotion somehow 'solidifying into cancer as well as their lack of knowing themselves in every possible way. You are not the only one with this New Age belief about cancer. It is a popular idea among the crystals and Bach remedy crowd. I disagree with this POV and the confidence with which you posted it as a fact. I believe that this POV expressed by yourself and others causes much unnecessary pain for people going through cancer treatment and their families. I have had a few friends die of one of the forms of this disease before their time and I can tell you for a fact this kind of nonsense is a torment to them as they try to figure out if they are doing something wrong that is causing their fatal disease of causing the to (in another unfortunate metaphor) lose their battle with cancer. Humans don't understand all the factors that lead to many of the forms of cancer, but they do for some. We have made tremendous strides in treating those that we do understand and for some that are genetically based we have a direction for further research. There is no proven link between anyone's internal state of mind and their cancer. ( I know this will be met with the objection that your are talking about some inner quality that only people with your special state of mind can know about and scientists just don't know about it yet...uh huh... I think your POV victimizes the victim and makes it appear that they have failed in their spiritual quest in contrast to you who have succeeded (according to your own claims) and are therefore magically immune to cancer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
This time Barry missed and excited on another. Of course, the wish to find out in and of itself doesn't mean no possibility of sadness or disappointment any more than it means no possibility of excitement. What's sad is the person who is so emotionally repressed as to suggest either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Eh, well, it would be very exciting should it ever be proven to exist, for many reasons. Of course, if it is some arbitrary non-TMer, who ends up floating and it turns out to have nothing to do with spiritual growth ala TM, then I'd be sad on one level and excited on another. Ahem. That sadness identifies you more of a will to believe person than a wish to find out person. If you were the latter, there would be no possibility of sadness or disappointment, n'est-ce pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Well, there's floating during TM-SIdhis pracice, and then there's floating during daily activity. Allegedly someone fully in Unity could perform any and all TM-SIdhis at any time, in any circumstance. But of course, MMY never demonstrated floating in public that I have heard of and never said that he had floated, only that he could if he wanted to. I personally think this levitation thing is overrated. I'm happy when I just witness someone being kind or generous or interesting. The only floaters I've ever seen (and are likely to see) are in my own toilet bowl. That's it! I guess Rama was just one big turd in the toilet bowl of life. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Could they float? Apparently that was a minor test for immortality in Maharishi's eyes: if they were well-enoughed established in Unity that they could float whenever they wanted, they might be immortal. Trying to ignore the nonsensical nature of the entire theory, I would suggest that if you believe in it then you have to admit that Maharishi was never able to float (levitate). There are no minor tests for immortality. There is only one test, and it's fairly major -- if you die, you're not. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I also strongly disagree with Jim's thesis. However... This time, Barry missed cancer cannot get a foothold--i.e., cannot flourish and replicate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thank you for the clarity, Curtis, and for taking on this particular meme, and form of New Age shaming. I just finished reading a study in which a world-reknowned oncology (cancer) specialist was quoted as saying, Every human being on the planet has one or more cancer cells in their body at this point in time. The question is whether they will flourish and replicate. (snip) Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : An enthusiastic response from me? Nope, just stay far enough away from me, to keep your bleeding heart from ruining my shirt. C:Your framing compassion for people suffering from a disease they did not choose and speaking out against your callus post as a bleeding heart makes my point perfectly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. C: Spiritual oneupmanship based on a self-reported state of mind... This connects back to the poster who said that I must never have transcended because if I had, I would have come to the same conclusions Maharishi did about the meaning of such experiences. It brings up an overarching problem with these self reported experiences and the language we use to describe them. Upon some reflection I see that that poster had a perfect right to challenge my self reported experience. Given my exposure to the organization and its programs designed to give such experiences, it would be sort of an indictment of the effectiveness of those programs or Maharishi's ability to certify people to represent his programs. But at its epistemological basis his POV was as valid as my own from one point of view. When we use the kind of words we have to in describing these experiences it is really all too vague to make any determination at all about what is going on inside another person. Unfortunately it also means that you are unlikely to get the traction you seek from this kind of I experience whatever and you don't putdown. Aside from my interest in the knowledge issues with self reported states of mind, I was prompted to respond to you post Jim because of what you said about cancer. Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. C: Do you realized that your misplaced confidence in your subjectively determined opinion about cancer (which is not supported by those whose job it is to actually study cancer) carries within it a nasty bit of victimizing the victim. You are essentially blaming people who die of cancer for their repressed block of emotion somehow 'solidifying into cancer as well as their lack of knowing themselves in every possible way. You are not the only one with this New Age belief about cancer. It is a popular idea among the crystals and Bach remedy crowd. I disagree with this POV and the confidence with which you posted it as a fact. I believe that this POV expressed by yourself and others causes much unnecessary pain for people going through cancer treatment and their families. I have had a few friends die of one of the forms of this disease before their time and I can tell you for a fact this kind of nonsense is a torment to them as they try to figure out if they are doing something wrong that is causing their fatal disease of causing the to (in another unfortunate metaphor) lose their battle with cancer. Humans don't understand all the factors that lead to many of the forms of cancer, but they do for some. We have made tremendous strides in treating those that we do understand and for some that are genetically based we have a direction for further research. There is no proven link between anyone's internal state of mind and their cancer. ( I know this will be met with the objection that your are talking about some inner quality that only people with your special state of mind can know about and scientists just don't know about it yet...uh huh... I think your POV victimizes the victim and makes it appear that they have failed in their spiritual quest in contrast to you who have succeeded (according to your own claims) and are therefore magically immune to cancer. And judging how you wield your self proclaimed special state of mind as a cudgel in putting others down here, I don't suspect you will be disturbed by the perhaps unintended consequence of your POV. There
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : An enthusiastic response from me? Nope, just stay far enough away from me, to keep your bleeding heart from ruining my shirt. C:Your framing compassion for people suffering from a disease they did not choose and speaking out against your callus post as a bleeding heart makes my point perfectly. Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established way of functioning. We don't endlessly bitch and whine about this teacher, or that, because we are enjoying a full spiritual life. You, on the other hand, with your Two Weeks Of Witnessing Lifetime Achievement Award, wring your hands and raise the alarm continuously, about a teacher who passed away many years ago, to distract yourself from your weak and shallow spiritual life. TWO weeks witnessing, total, total? I wouldn't even admit that, if I were you. C: Spiritual oneupmanship based on a self-reported state of mind... This connects back to the poster who said that I must never have transcended because if I had, I would have come to the same conclusions Maharishi did about the meaning of such experiences. It brings up an overarching problem with these self reported experiences and the language we use to describe them. Upon some reflection I see that that poster had a perfect right to challenge my self reported experience. Given my exposure to the organization and its programs designed to give such experiences, it would be sort of an indictment of the effectiveness of those programs or Maharishi's ability to certify people to represent his programs. But at its epistemological basis his POV was as valid as my own from one point of view. When we use the kind of words we have to in describing these experiences it is really all too vague to make any determination at all about what is going on inside another person. Unfortunately it also means that you are unlikely to get the traction you seek from this kind of I experience whatever and you don't putdown. Aside from my interest in the knowledge issues with self reported states of mind, I was prompted to respond to you post Jim because of what you said about cancer. Jim: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. C: Do you realized that your misplaced confidence in your subjectively determined opinion about cancer (which is not supported by those whose job it is to actually study cancer) carries within it a nasty bit of victimizing the victim. You are essentially blaming people who die of cancer for their repressed block of emotion somehow 'solidifying into cancer as well as their lack of knowing themselves in every possible way. You are not the only one with this New Age belief about cancer. It is a popular idea among the crystals and Bach remedy crowd. I disagree with this POV and the confidence with which you posted it as a fact. I believe that this POV expressed by yourself and others causes much unnecessary pain for people going through cancer treatment and their families. I have had a few friends die of one of the forms of this disease before their time and I can tell you for a fact this kind of nonsense is a torment to them as they try to figure out if they are doing something wrong that is causing their fatal disease of causing the to (in another unfortunate metaphor) lose their battle with cancer. Humans don't understand all the factors that lead to many of the forms of cancer, but they do for some. We have made tremendous strides in treating those that we do understand and for some that are genetically based we have a direction for further research. There is no proven link between anyone's internal state of mind and their cancer. ( I know this will be met with the objection that your are talking about some inner quality that only people with your special state of mind can know about and scientists just don't know about it yet...uh huh... I think your POV victimizes the victim and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Comments below... Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, and that ability has *absolutely nothing* to do with what is going on simultaneously in terms of personality and behavior? --Barry Wright, awhile back on alt.m.t This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
That's funny as shit! As I said... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, and that ability has *absolutely nothing* to do with what is going on simultaneously in terms of personality and behavior? --Barry Wright, awhile back on alt.m.t This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Isn't that something? Yes, I've said the same thing. I wonder if he remembers it. I stumbled on it some time ago when I was looking for something else on alt.m.t, saved it, then forgot I had it until I stumbled over it in my own files a couple days ago. I suspect it was intended as a putdown of Maharishi with his claims for enlightened behavior. In any case, I hardly think he'd want us to hold him to it now; so many of his insults to TMers are based on the notion that TM is responsible for what he considers their unenlightened behavior. Whatever would he do if he had to stop using that line of attack? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That's funny as shit! As I said... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, and that ability has *absolutely nothing* to do with what is going on simultaneously in terms of personality and behavior? --Barry Wright, awhile back on alt.m.t This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That's funny as shit! As I said... At least Judy thought she knew what Bawee was trying to say in those two sentences because I didn't have a clue. Not only was the phrasing strange but the concept was stranger still. And Bawee has purportedly written a thesis on this forum?! And what sort of accessories does he think we all have that are often-unintended? I, for one, love these little hair combs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... Especially coming from one of the Maharishi enlightened. What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, and that ability has *absolutely nothing* to do with what is going on simultaneously in terms of personality and behavior? --Barry Wright, awhile back on alt.m.t This exchange illustrates my basic thesis on this forum. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what one *says* about people one doesn't like on FFL. All that matters is what the persons saying it do in their posts, as often-unintended accessories to what they say. Very curious to know what Barry believes peopledo in their posts other than say things (maybe attach an image or link to an article or YouTube video, but other than that?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
That's a good one!
On Wed, 5/14/14, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 4:56 AM
Buck has had too much
to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody
take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse
tonight.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
And perhaps, Bucky, this topic IS of interest to spiritual seekers - life is
more than Omming in the Domes you know. You live that everyday out in the
fields when doing your farm work - and besides, you claim that FFL went in the
gutter when Rick let me in, so this post of raunchy's should be seen as a step
up!
On Wed, 5/14/14, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 4:17 AM
Buck, you're a disgrace. You inveigh against
spam but you don't even know what it
is.
And it's hard to
believe the dishonesty of referring to Alex as
A
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Ranchydog could certainly
attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to dumping
these posts here. She knows the rules. This is pure spam
and a lazy writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the
salon of spiritual and FFL conversation of FFL here
otherwise. Enforce the unifying code of FFL guidelines
Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this
place down entirely into the gutter for lack of any
over-seeing moderating discipline. Beware the spammer and
spammer beware on FFL,
-Buck
No, you selectively copied that
out of context.
The guideline is:
Fairfield Life focuses
on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and
liberation everywhere.
-Buck
A FFL Moderator writes:
To refresh your
memory:
Pretty
much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of
discussion about American politics. We have discussed
spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher
states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs.
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma,
Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen,
tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy,
sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism,
Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology,
etc.
What part of Pretty
much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?
It is called spam, without any attempt at context.
Lacking attempt at context has long been a standard Rick
has used against spammers.
Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes
Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about
elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?
Or is it
spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL,
the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a
question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you
read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual
vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck
Raunchydog
writes:
With 2016
speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary
Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive
anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another
political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently
false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her.
Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny
that permeate our culture. Latest
talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme
#11: HER HEALTHDisgusting, unfounded
speculation.
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I
don't think there are extraordinary health issues with
Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class
of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he
chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then
wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she
had brain
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy,
and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW
Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says
it all. :-)
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Karl
Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running
as president in the next election.
In her jyotish chart, it
shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first
house. So, that means that this health issue will be a
major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It
is likely that she will address this point on February 17,
2015 by announcing that she will not run for the
office.
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
noozguru and Buck, I think everything is spiritual?! And all the political info is one of the aspects I appreciate about the Funny Farm Lounge (-: On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:19 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What part of topics of interest did you not understand? Do you think you are the only seeker here (or finder for that matter)? On 05/13/2014 07:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Got it, fleetwood! Your unbounded awareness does not include tap dancing. Better luck next time (-: On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:57 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
That could be true for ordinary people but not for Yogis, They often get cancer when their Work here is over and they are needed elsewhere. Happenned to many, Guru Dev included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
You are just TOO funny! This is excellent!!
On Wed, 5/14/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 1:29 PM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
raunchydog@... wrote :
Buck has had too much to drink at
Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody take his
keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
On 5/13/2014 9:13 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? Well, I guess it's the levitation part I don't understand. Is that fair game? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I guess it is good for something, then.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That could be true for ordinary people but not for Yogis, They often get cancer when their Work here is over and they are needed elsewhere. Happenned to many, Guru Dev included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
So, this is, 'Charly', and you are Cliff Robertson?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Got it, fleetwood! Your unbounded awareness does not include tap dancing. Better luck next time (-: On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:57 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I like a bold statement like this. I don't know if it is true, but cancer is not anything I worry about, although I don't claim to have unbounded awareness either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I wasn't thinking of reallly old dudes, just your average Biff, Skip, Chet, Betty and Chip. The old dudes invariably die of something called, old age - sadly, it is always fatal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
You *liked* it?? OK, I am learning the whole, I'll discover something interesting from the higher planes of existence, and you will pay me handsomely for it, game. 500 clams, please. Please let me know if that is too much, or not enough, whatever... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I like a bold statement like this. I don't know if it is true, but cancer is not anything I worry about, although I don't claim to have unbounded awareness either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I don't know what it is. What was funny to me was that, the co-worker was a little bashful about mentioning the process. As my wife was describing it, I thought, what an odd thing, and then it dawned on me exactly what it was. I am guessing we probably all have little techniques we use to keep ourselves balanced. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
fleetwood, EFT tapping involves tapping gently on some of the meridian points that are associated with the ancient healing system of acupuncture. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:20 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't know what it is. What was funny to me was that, the co-worker was a little bashful about mentioning the process. As my wife was describing it, I thought, what an odd thing, and then it dawned on me exactly what it was. I am guessing we probably all have little techniques we use to keep ourselves balanced. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Yep, dang [subtle] Physiology! =Buck Fleetwood_macncheese writes: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. sharelong60 writes: Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
What part of topics of interest did you not understand? Do you think you are the only seeker here (or finder for that matter)? On 05/13/2014 07:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: /NEW/ Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
