Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-12 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Your yelping proves you consider TM a religion in all its glory.
 
Dear Mike,
No more 'yelping for you'. It's just a waste of breath. Have a nice day.
from the Fashion Capital of the World,
reporting daily,
d

 From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Good Lord, WGM! In one short post, you have committed the ultimate blasphemy 
against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well 
as utterly dashing their hopes for redemption, if they had the good sense to 
pay attention to you. 

 

 The part about Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the 
worst blasphemy of all.

 

 Dear Mike,
Thank you for pointing all this out. I, of course missed WGM's Post, as I'd 
told him I wouldn't bother, so he shouldn't either.
But it seems like he has, and you provided a summary for Nabby, Buck et al). 
Some piece of work. Both you guys, I mean it.

The two of you managed to get EVERYTHING WRONG in so many words. I'll help with 
a few, but don't think I'll attempt to bother you too much with the facts.

First you begin with: the ultimate blasphemy against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, 
feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well as utterly dashing their hopes 
for redemption. TM is not a religion, if Maharishi had wanted to start a 
religion he would have done that instead. Also, The Vedic tradition is not a 
religion but a system of knowledge based on direct experience. [I can recommend 
some great reading from some religious authorities who can explain this better 
than I, if you care to delve further].

Next you've got WGM 'blaspheming' with: The part about Marshy's made up dog 
and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy of all. Of course my 
religion has no place for blaspheming, but I don't expect you to know anything.

Which leads me to WMG's wrong-headed commentary, following yours. WMG's first 
paragraph concludes: I don't think it came from Guru Dev.. So, although WMG 
has this fact very wrong, at least he had the good sense to couch it as his 
opinion only. So, at most I can say that WMG's opinion is dead wrong. I have 
researched these sets of facts in collagboration with the West's leading 
authority of the works of Guru Dev. My contribution was to find the linkages 
between these Great Teachers.
 
WMS's assertions from that point forward, i.e.whereas in practice most people 
won't even transcend fully ONCE in their lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would 
bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga as a *result* of practice is 
poppy cock. 

He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga). ARE WITHOUT EXCEPTION FALSE. I never 
wanted to bust WMG's bubble, as he seems so vested in repeating this assertion, 
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, but just repeating it don't make it so.

Even in 17 Point typeface.

So remember: watch the company you keep because life is too precious to piss 
away and, stop making shit up. I think if you start with these two guiding 
principles you'll be OK.

 From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 
 
   MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your 
question will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made 
up TM (a good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came 
from Guru Dev.
 

  I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.
 

 He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).


 

















 


 











RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

 

  

Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.

Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.


  
  
 Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.
 Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.
 

 We are expecting 200,000 people to add their voices on Sunday, March 21. The 
March cooincides with the UN Summit on Climate Change.
 

 Be the Change you want.


 








RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread wgm4u
Sorry, but Climate 'scientist's' credibility has been severely challenged 
recently; add to that the enormous money involved with GOVERNMENT grants, 
colleague peer pressure and other pressures involved in solving this so-called 
emergency. I think we'd better eye this with some healthy skepticism

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How does that scenario fit in with the projected bliss and happiness that is to 
occur in the Age of Enlightenment the Movement is supposed to be bringing on 
right now?




 From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 


  
 


From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
 
  
Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.
Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 How does that scenario fit in with the projected bliss and happiness that is 
to occur in the Age of Enlightenment the Movement is supposed to be bringing on 
right now?

 
Dear Mike,
I know it must be relieving to you to have one explanation for all the things 
wrong in your life.

The thing is...you, yourself can't possible believe that the Movement is the 
source of all your problems.

Think about it. I mean climate change? Come on.

 From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:31 PM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 
 

 


 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.


  
  
 Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.
 Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.

 






 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread wgm4u
MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your question 
will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made up TM (a 
good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came from Guru 
Dev.
 

  I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.
 

 He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good Lord, WGM! In one short post, you have committed the ultimate blasphemy 
against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well 
as utterly dashing their hopes for redemption, if they had the good sense to 
pay attention to you. 


The part about Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the 
worst blasphemy of all.







 From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 


  
MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your question 
will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made up TM (a 
good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came from Guru 
Dev.

 I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.

He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Duveyoung
I was in the audience when Maharishi described how he came up with the mantras. 
 (He may have given this explanation on other occasions...dunno.) 

It wasn't from Guru Devthe technique might have been from Guru Dev, but the 
mantras were picked by Maharishi as he sat on his bed in a hotel room...if I 
remember correctly.  There was never a moment when Guru Dev pulled Maharishi 
aside and gave birth to the technique as far as I can tellmerely from Guru 
Dev's talks did Maharishi get the concepts we're being told comes from 5,000 
years of tradition.  But, nope, don't think so anymore.  Can anyone add more to 
my dim memories of this?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Good Lord, WGM! In one short post, you have committed the ultimate blasphemy 
against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well 
as utterly dashing their hopes for redemption, if they had the good sense to 
pay attention to you. 

 

 The part about Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the 
worst blasphemy of all.

 

 Dear Mike,
Thank you for pointing all this out. I, of course missed WGM's Post, as I'd 
told him I wouldn't bother, so he shouldn't either.
But it seems like he has, and you provided a summary for Nabby, Buck et al). 
Some piece of work. Both you guys, I mean it.

The two of you managed to get EVERYTHING WRONG in so many words. I'll help with 
a few, but don't think I'll attempt to bother you too much with the facts.

First you begin with: the ultimate blasphemy against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, 
feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well as utterly dashing their hopes 
for redemption. TM is not a religion, if Maharishi had wanted to start a 
religion he would have done that instead. Also, The Vedic tradition is not a 
religion but a system of knowledge based on direct experience. [I can recommend 
some great reading from some religious authorities who can explain this better 
than I, if you care to delve further].

Next you've got WGM 'blaspheming' with: The part about Marshy's made up dog 
and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy of all. Of course my 
religion has no place for blaspheming, but I don't expect you to know anything.

Which leads me to WMG's wrong-headed commentary, following yours. WMG's first 
paragraph concludes: I don't think it came from Guru Dev.. So, although WMG 
has this fact very wrong, at least he had the good sense to couch it as his 
opinion only. So, at most I can say that WMG's opinion is dead wrong. I have 
researched these sets of facts in collagboration with the West's leading 
authority of the works of Guru Dev. My contribution was to find the linkages 
between these Great Teachers.
 
WMS's assertions from that point forward, i.e.whereas in practice most people 
won't even transcend fully ONCE in their lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would 
bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga as a *result* of practice is 
poppy cock. 

He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga). ARE WITHOUT EXCEPTION FALSE. I never 
wanted to bust WMG's bubble, as he seems so vested in repeating this assertion, 
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, but just repeating it don't make it so.

Even in 17 Point typeface.

So remember: watch the company you keep because life is too precious to piss 
away and, stop making shit up. I think if you start with these two guiding 
principles you'll be OK.

 From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 
 
   MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your 
question will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made 
up TM (a good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came 
from Guru Dev.
 

  I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.
 

 He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).


 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The mantras have been around for ages. They are listed in John 
Woodroffe's The Garland of Letters for example (published before 
Maharishi was born).  They are commonly used in Jyotish, Ayurveda as 
well as many other Indian traditions.  Of course westerners back then 
wouldn't know this but there's been quite an explosion of knowledge 
since so it wouldn't be so easy to pull off as original or from some 
lost tradition.


This is the problem for many TM people whose training as been VERY 
LIMITED in scope.


On 09/11/2014 03:56 PM, Duveyoung wrote:


I was in the audience when Maharishi described how he came up with the 
mantras.  (He may have given this explanation on other 
occasions...dunno.)


It wasn't from Guru Devthe technique might have been from Guru 
Dev, but the mantras were picked by Maharishi as he sat on his bed in 
a hotel room...if I remember correctly.  There was never a moment when 
Guru Dev pulled Maharishi aside and gave birth to the technique as far 
as I can tellmerely from Guru Dev's talks did Maharishi get the 
concepts we're being told comes from 5,000 years of tradition.  But, 
nope, don't think so anymore.  Can anyone add more to my dim memories 
of this?







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But..you must admit, it is amusing to see Michael make 
his connection with every subject, 
.that has ever come up. 

 He has never, not once,  not one teeny, tiny time, not been able to make his 
connection.
 

 At the dinner, they may have to relegate him to the kid's table.
 

 That would be downright embarasking! (Popeye speak)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 How does that scenario fit in with the projected bliss and happiness that is 
to occur in the Age of Enlightenment the Movement is supposed to be bringing on 
right now?

 
Dear Mike,
I know it must be relieving to you to have one explanation for all the things 
wrong in your life.

The thing is...you, yourself can't possible believe that the Movement is the 
source of all your problems.

Think about it. I mean climate change? Come on.

 From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:31 PM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 
 

 


 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.


  
  
 Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.
 Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.

 






 


 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Your yelping proves you consider TM a religion in all its glory.




 From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :


Good Lord, WGM! In one short post, you have committed the ultimate blasphemy 
against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well 
as utterly dashing their hopes for redemption, if they had the good sense to 
pay attention to you. 


The part about
Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy 
of all.


Dear Mike,
Thank you for pointing all this out. I, of course missed WGM's Post, as I'd 
told him I wouldn't bother, so he shouldn't either.
But it seems like he has, and you provided a summary for Nabby, Buck et al). 
Some piece of work. Both you guys, I mean it.

The two of you managed to get EVERYTHING WRONG in so many words. I'll help with 
a few, but don't think I'll attempt to bother you too much with the facts.

First you begin with: the ultimate blasphemy against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, 
feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well as utterly dashing their hopes 
for redemption. TM is not a religion, if Maharishi had wanted to start a 
religion he would have done that instead. Also, The Vedic tradition is not a 
religion but a system of knowledge based on direct experience. [I can recommend 
some great reading from some religious authorities who can explain this better 
than I, if you care to delve further].

Next you've got WGM 'blaspheming' with: The part about
Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy 
of all. Of course my religion has no place for blaspheming, but I don't expect 
you to know anything.

Which leads me to WMG's wrong-headed commentary, following yours. WMG's first 
paragraph concludes: I don't think it came from Guru Dev.. So, although WMG 
has this fact very wrong, at least he had the good sense to couch it as his 
opinion only. So, at most I can say that WMG's opinion is dead wrong. I have 
researched these sets of facts in collagboration with the West's leading 
authority of the works of Guru Dev. My contribution was to find the linkages 
between these Great Teachers.
 
WMS's assertions from that point forward, i.e.whereas in practice most 
people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their lifetime! Hence his idea that 
TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga as a 
*result* of practice is poppy cock.
He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight 
limbs of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not 
*ends* (read it for yourself in the appendix under Yoga). ARE WITHOUT 
EXCEPTION FALSE. I never wanted to bust WMG's bubble, as he seems so vested in 
repeating this assertion, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, but just repeating it don't make 
it so.

Even in 17 Point typeface.

So remember: watch the company you keep because life is too precious to piss 
away and, stop making shit up. I think if you start with these two guiding 
principles you'll be OK.



 From: wgm4u
no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.



 
MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your question 
will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made up TM (a 
good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came from Guru 
Dev.

 I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.

He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread wgm4u
There is no Parampara in the TM program, MMY *wasn't* a Guru! Thanks Duveyoung!
 

 Parampara (Sanskrit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit: परम्परा, paramparā) 
denotes a succession of teachers and disciples in traditional Vedic culture and 
Indian religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions such as Hinduism 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism, Sikhism 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism, Jainism 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism and Buddhism 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism. It is also known as guru-shishya 
tradition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru-shishya_tradition (succession from 
guru http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru to disciple).



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are also evidently ignorant of the meaning of the word blasphemy.
Blasphemy - irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable 



 From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :


Good Lord, WGM! In one short post, you have committed the ultimate blasphemy 
against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well 
as utterly dashing their hopes for redemption, if they had the good sense to 
pay attention to you. 


The part about
Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy 
of all.


Dear Mike,
Thank you for pointing all this out. I, of course missed WGM's Post, as I'd 
told him I wouldn't bother, so he shouldn't either.
But it seems like he has, and you provided a summary for Nabby, Buck et al). 
Some piece of work. Both you guys, I mean it.

The two of you managed to get EVERYTHING WRONG in so many words. I'll help with 
a few, but don't think I'll attempt to bother you too much with the facts.

First you begin with: the ultimate blasphemy against Nabby, Buck, doc, dan, 
feste, sri, steve and Share's religion as well as utterly dashing their hopes 
for redemption. TM is not a religion, if Maharishi had wanted to start a 
religion he would have done that instead. Also, The Vedic tradition is not a 
religion but a system of knowledge based on direct experience. [I can recommend 
some great reading from some religious authorities who can explain this better 
than I, if you care to delve further].

Next you've got WGM 'blaspheming' with: The part about
Marshy's made up dog and pony show not coming from GD was the worst blasphemy 
of all. Of course my religion has no place for blaspheming, but I don't expect 
you to know anything.

Which leads me to WMG's wrong-headed commentary, following yours. WMG's first 
paragraph concludes: I don't think it came from Guru Dev.. So, although WMG 
has this fact very wrong, at least he had the good sense to couch it as his 
opinion only. So, at most I can say that WMG's opinion is dead wrong. I have 
researched these sets of facts in collagboration with the West's leading 
authority of the works of Guru Dev. My contribution was to find the linkages 
between these Great Teachers.
 
WMS's assertions from that point forward, i.e.whereas in practice most 
people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their lifetime! Hence his idea that 
TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga as a 
*result* of practice is poppy cock.
He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight 
limbs of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not 
*ends* (read it for yourself in the appendix under Yoga). ARE WITHOUT 
EXCEPTION FALSE. I never wanted to bust WMG's bubble, as he seems so vested in 
repeating this assertion, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, but just repeating it don't make 
it so.

Even in 17 Point typeface.

So remember: watch the company you keep because life is too precious to piss 
away and, stop making shit up. I think if you start with these two guiding 
principles you'll be OK.



 From: wgm4u
no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
1888.



 
MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your question 
will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made up TM (a 
good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came from Guru 
Dev.

 I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few 
years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their 
lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs 
of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock.

He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs 
of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it 
for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.

2014-09-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 But..you must admit, it is amusing to see Michael make 
his connection with every subject, 
.that has ever come up. 

 He has never, not once,  not one teeny, tiny time, not been able to make his 
connection.
 

 At the dinner, they may have to relegate him to the kid's table.
 

 That would be downright embarasking! (Popeye speak)
 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 How does that scenario fit in with the projected bliss and happiness that is 
to occur in the Age of Enlightenment the Movement is supposed to be bringing on 
right now?

 
Dear Mike,
I know it must be relieving to you to have one explanation for all the things 
wrong in your life.

The thing is...you, yourself can't possible believe that the Movement is the 
source of all your problems.

Think about it. I mean climate change? Come on.

 From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:31 PM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 
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Behalf Of wgm4u
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the 
subject.
 Good, then you must concur with the consensus of virtually all climate 
scientists that man-made climate change is real and is likely to have dire 
consequences for humanity.