Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread Vaj

On Nov 1, 2008, at 12:40 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

 So I'll speak up now.  This term is a mean-spirited,unnecessary,
 gratuitous, personal attack, meant to slander a valued contributor to
 FFL.  Ruth is neither racist or race-baiter and whatever your
 disagreements with her, she does not deserve to be characterized this
 way. The fact that you are still using this so long after the supposed
 incident expresses the qualities of an unfair grudge IMO.  Repeating
 it is nasty and lowers the discourse here.  Dropping in that term in a
 post that she was not even a part of is unfair.  I thought it was
 unfair at the time in the context of the discussion, but at least then
 it had a context and was your POV in that context. Continuing this
 charge is absurd and obviously false from all that she has posted  
 here.


Pretty funny too, since I believe Our Dear Ruth is multi-racial.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj


On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As far as your points on the importance of women's rights, of
course I agree. I'm sure if I was a woman I would be the first
to call people on sexist language for its own sake, not because
it has been linked to violence. In my neighborhood it is violence
that is linked with violence.

In fact I'll join you by condemning two of the most sexist people
in history, the Holy Tradition's own Shankara, and the woman-
phobic Guru Dev. The Crest Jewel of Discrimination is one of the
most sexist scriptures on the planet.

A wise man views women as corpses, bags of urine and feces.
Shankara

What a saint!

And Guru Dev's refusal to be in the same room with any women sent a
terrible message to women and men who looked at him as a spiritual
leader.

I would think any woman who is serious about women's issues would
want to join me in condemning these two men.


Bingo.

That's the real issue, the one that the pseudo-
feminists on this forum are skirting.

It's misogynist to call a person who is acting
like a cunt a cunt (see the following post for a
definition of that word)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/194179
but it's just FINE to suggest that one should think
of women as corpses to protect one's fragile male
sensibilities.


I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when  
you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at  
you'.


They seem most likely to be women without current male relationships-- 
at least one has never had a long-term male relationship. And so they  
come across as
men haters, misandrists, but it seems to largely stem from sexual  
frustration and personalities not suited to balanced male  
relationships. In the absence of a balanced relationship and  
something to fill the hole in their lives, they resort to projection.
It seems to me the term misogynist is used in too loose a sense by  
our FFL Feminazis. Instead of being about men who hate women--truly a  
rare breed--it's more about 'things men say that we don't like and  
feel threatened by'. And since they have no balanced relationship in  
their own life, the resort to their own jilted center with which to  
see the world.


Ah, look at all the lonely people,

Where do they all come from?

--Lennon-McCartney

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj


On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Vaj wrote:

I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never
heard the saying 'when you point a finger at
someone, there's three fingers pointing back
at you'.


You just compounded your error by calling the
women here a sexist name. In fact, there aren't
any Femi-nazis on this forum - you lied, Vaj,
and you made yourself look like a fool. Why are
you so defensive? All you have to do is stop
with name calling and sexist language. What's
so difficult with that? Maybe you should start
apologizing instead of posting personal attacks
against women.



It's just an appropriate and humorous adjective for describing  
extreme and/or unbalanced feminists Willy. I'm sure you'll get over  
it.  I'm a life-long feminist and it didn't bother me.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj


On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:46 PM, raunchydog wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when
you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at
you'.

They seem most likely to be women without current male  
relationships--

at least one has never had a long-term male relationship. And so they
come across as
men haters, misandrists, but it seems to largely stem from sexual
frustration and personalities not suited to balanced male
relationships. In the absence of a balanced relationship and
something to fill the hole in their lives, they resort to projection.
It seems to me the term misogynist is used in too loose a sense by
our FFL Feminazis. Instead of being about men who hate women--truly a
rare breed--it's more about 'things men say that we don't like and
feel threatened by'. And since they have no balanced relationship in
their own life, the resort to their own jilted center with which to
see the world.

Ah, look at all the lonely people,

Where do they all come from?

--Lennon-McCartney


Well, Vaj, here we are again. I thought it was possible to have a sane
conversation with you, but after reading this crap,I doubt it. Where
do you get off imagining anything about me or anyone else who posts
here? You're sounding like Barry, and I've had my fill of his BS as
well. You raised a phony generalization about women haters in order to
attack me personally and you did so while knowing nothing about who I
love or who loves me, or what I have shared in a lifetime or loving
relationships or with children, family and friends. Isn't it really
stupid to make shit up about people based on a stereotype? Don't you
know this is the fuel of racism, and sexism? As I have said, I don't
usually draw first blood but I will defend myself against man or woman
whenever I see fit. Fair warning: If you want to make shit up about me
and align yourself with Barry the bully, expect return fire.


For one, why did you think this post (responding to Barry) refers to  
you?


And if it does, why would you think you might be perceived as an  
imbalanced or militant feminist and possibly misandrous?


Is there anything in the various conversations that another might have  
perceived in that way? Surely you at least understand that feminism,  
like all things human, possesses it's own dark side?





Meanwhile, since you are a Beatles fan, here's a John Lennon song
dedicated to your enlightenment.
http://tinyurl.com/2e4e83


Check out msg # 72447 for some of my thoughts on that very song.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/72447




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


Last, hopefully, point on this for those who
haven't been following it closely enough to
recognize how grossly it's been distorted by
Barry and his minions.


I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions  
(another good rock band name).


How about the Filet Minions?

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:



I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another
good rock band name).

A death threat is a very different kind of communication than wishing
someone was dead and saying so.  I was originally concerned that such
a threat had been made which is why I asked about it.  If such a treat
had been made


Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit.  Will
you please get out of this Halloween mode?  Things
are scary enough around here as it is.


I would have spoken up to the person making such a
threat.



Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


If such a treat had been made


Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit.  Will
you please get out of this Halloween mode?  Things
are scary enough around here as it is.


Interestingly, in France and now in Spain,
Halloween has never really been a big deal,
or celebrated. It's only lately that it's
been merchandized to kids and their parents.

Until only a few years ago, Halloween meant
only its name -- Hallow 'een, or All Hallows
Eve. It's the next day. All Saints Day, that
is celebrated in France and in Spain. It's
a national holiday/fiesta, and people tend
to visit cemetaries to honor the dead. Then
eat. Somehow in Spain all fiestas seem to
lead up to eating. And for some reason I don't
fully understand, the streets are suddenly
full of roasted chestnut vendors. Here's
what I found about it on a website:


Great info, but this whole post really sounds like a
death treat, Barry...

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
 If such a treat had been made
   
 Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit.  Will
 you please get out of this Halloween mode?  Things
 are scary enough around here as it is.
 

 Interestingly, in France and now in Spain,
 Halloween has never really been a big deal,
 or celebrated. It's only lately that it's
 been merchandized to kids and their parents.
It certainly has become highly commercialized in the US with rows 
devoted to Halloween stuff in stores.  Now some of those rows are 
already filled with Christmas stuff.  Shop often shop early I guess.  I 
think this year's Christmas is going to be Bushmas which is the name we 
should give at I don't think people will have that much to spend.  In 
fact I've decided my annual holiday video will be about celebrating 
Bushmas and the upcoming Bush Great Depression.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:18 AM, raunchydog wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll be happy to explain how I was using the
term death threats and why Barry's finely
crafted definition and his humor excuse don't
apply, if anybody is interested.


Do tell.


I doubt anyone will be, and that's fine, except
in that case, they aren't in a position to have
an opinion on whether my claim is valid.


Since I'm on Barry's hit list, I'm VERY interested.


Maybe if you actually had a life you'd be less interested.
Why don't you both  find another place to haunt?
You're crashing bores and are ruining this list.

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


Anyway Judy I would like to hear how Turq's statements seemed like
death threats to you.


They aren't, this whole thing is just made up nonsense because
Barry won't interact with Judy any more.

Judy's FOAD, said to both Rick and me, is more of a death
threat than what Barry said.  Judy and raunchy both need help.

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Vaj


On Oct 27, 2008, at 2:53 PM, do.rflex wrote:


I personally think what Barry suggested is the best way to handle both
of them. Don't respond to them. Ignore them. Let them play by
themselves in their own dark little worlds.


Bingo. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Vaj


On Oct 27, 2008, at 3:13 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:


Bingo.


in fairness to Judy, Mr. B does consciously egg her on- he has said so
himself. both act very childish in the context of this particular
dynamic; Mr. B usually plays the sneaky goading one and Judy responds
as the outraged correcting one. over and over and over again. talk
about samskaras.


That's why it's important he ignores the, ahem, problem. I'd  
recommend watching A Clockwork Orange for behavior mod. suggestions. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Vaj


On Oct 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


A real commercial for TM, doncha think?



In a sad way, yes.

We have the earlier day 'Junk Yard Dog website (her badge she  
warily whines--LOL, who ever believed that!), I think this newer  
phenom is just begging for a good YouTube video, as it calls to mind a  
new assholiness.


I do have to say I did learn from all this that you can exclude some  
thing from wholeness and still have wholeness.


I know the Upanishadic dudes might opine take wholeness from  
wholeness and it still remains whole, but now I know you can remove  
assholiness from wholeness and you still have wholeness.


It was an interesting paradox worth grokking...but we all move on...

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

 

 whoa- hold up there, pardner-- I agree with you regarding that 
 creepy call, but the thinking was deranged vs. Guru-love scriptures 
 who have very clear physical threats against speaking against 
 the master.?
 
 I have not heard of such scriptures. Can you find me a source please?

I was thinking of the Guru Gita and the Laws of Manu which spells out
specific punishments in detail for banging your Guru's wife 

The punishment for that one, as I recall, is to cut off your genitals and
walk away from the ashram, holding them in your hands, until you bleed to
death. Descriptive rather than prescriptive? Does that mean that in a higher
level of consciousness, one would do that to oneself spontaneously, without
coercion? 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread I am the eternal
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *curtisdeltablues
 *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 5:59 PM
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three



  whoa- hold up there, pardner-- I agree with you regarding that
  creepy call, but the thinking was deranged vs. Guru-love scriptures
  who have very clear physical threats against speaking against
  the master.?
 
  I have not heard of such scriptures. Can you find me a source please?

 I was thinking of the Guru Gita and the Laws of Manu which spells out
 specific punishments in detail for banging your Guru's wife

 The punishment for that one, as I recall, is to cut off your genitals and
 walk away from the ashram, holding them in your hands, until you bleed to
 death. Descriptive rather than prescriptive? Does that mean that in a higher
 level of consciousness, one would do that to oneself spontaneously, without
 coercion?
  _

This trucker came home early from a cross country haul.  He saw that there
was a car in the driveway he didn't recognize so he sneaked into the house.
He heard moans and figured out what was happening.  The next thing happening
is the guest wakes up with his gonads locked in a vice with the handle
pulled out of it in the garage.  The driver pulled out a razor strap and a
straight razor and started stropping the razor.  No! No! You wouldn't. I
was actually getting this ready for you.  I figured you might have use for
it once I set the garage on fire, said the trucker.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


I don't see any evidence for the claim of
misogyny against anyone here, nor have I
seen any death treats.


(If I were into Freudian theory, I'd hassle
you about the typo.)


It took me a few times through to catch it.  I guess it was the
influence of Halloween coming up.


Great name for a rock group, Curtis--The Death Treats!

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:33 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


Great name for a rock group, Curtis--The Death Treats!

Sal


S!  Don't out me in my plan to solve the early morning noise
problem in my building this Halloween with some candies made in CHINA,
if you know what I mean, Sal!

Trick or Threat!  Little monsters.


I don't have to say anything, they know your
type, Curtis...

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread gullible fool


HaHa, fool ! So you don't think Nature will silence you, Mr. Archer, 
myself and everyone else on this forum, eventually ? 
 
You are Nature.

 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 2:04 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
   When I left the movement (probably after some article came
   out with my opinion of the movement) I got a message on my
   phone machine (remember them!) that said:
   
   Nature will silence you!

HaHa, fool ! So you don't think Nature will silence you, Mr. Archer, 
myself and everyone else on this forum, eventually ? 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Vaj


On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:52 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Oct 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


A real commercial for TM, doncha think?



In a sad way, yes.

We have the earlier day 'Junk Yard Dog website (her badge she
warily whines--LOL, who ever believed that!),


Don't know about Judy, but I refer people to the Dormouse pages of  
that

website on a regular basis.


Well it's a shame you have to live so far in the past. Like I said,  
YouTube awaits--and a nicely ported Powerpoint presentation to video  
may just be the ticket!


I'm thinking the Waldstein would be the perfect soundtrack! You?