Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Nov 1, 2008, at 12:40 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So I'll speak up now. This term is a mean-spirited,unnecessary, gratuitous, personal attack, meant to slander a valued contributor to FFL. Ruth is neither racist or race-baiter and whatever your disagreements with her, she does not deserve to be characterized this way. The fact that you are still using this so long after the supposed incident expresses the qualities of an unfair grudge IMO. Repeating it is nasty and lowers the discourse here. Dropping in that term in a post that she was not even a part of is unfair. I thought it was unfair at the time in the context of the discussion, but at least then it had a context and was your POV in that context. Continuing this charge is absurd and obviously false from all that she has posted here. Pretty funny too, since I believe Our Dear Ruth is multi-racial.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as your points on the importance of women's rights, of course I agree. I'm sure if I was a woman I would be the first to call people on sexist language for its own sake, not because it has been linked to violence. In my neighborhood it is violence that is linked with violence. In fact I'll join you by condemning two of the most sexist people in history, the Holy Tradition's own Shankara, and the woman- phobic Guru Dev. The Crest Jewel of Discrimination is one of the most sexist scriptures on the planet. A wise man views women as corpses, bags of urine and feces. Shankara What a saint! And Guru Dev's refusal to be in the same room with any women sent a terrible message to women and men who looked at him as a spiritual leader. I would think any woman who is serious about women's issues would want to join me in condemning these two men. Bingo. That's the real issue, the one that the pseudo- feminists on this forum are skirting. It's misogynist to call a person who is acting like a cunt a cunt (see the following post for a definition of that word) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/194179 but it's just FINE to suggest that one should think of women as corpses to protect one's fragile male sensibilities. I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. They seem most likely to be women without current male relationships-- at least one has never had a long-term male relationship. And so they come across as men haters, misandrists, but it seems to largely stem from sexual frustration and personalities not suited to balanced male relationships. In the absence of a balanced relationship and something to fill the hole in their lives, they resort to projection. It seems to me the term misogynist is used in too loose a sense by our FFL Feminazis. Instead of being about men who hate women--truly a rare breed--it's more about 'things men say that we don't like and feel threatened by'. And since they have no balanced relationship in their own life, the resort to their own jilted center with which to see the world. Ah, look at all the lonely people, Where do they all come from? --Lennon-McCartney
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. You just compounded your error by calling the women here a sexist name. In fact, there aren't any Femi-nazis on this forum - you lied, Vaj, and you made yourself look like a fool. Why are you so defensive? All you have to do is stop with name calling and sexist language. What's so difficult with that? Maybe you should start apologizing instead of posting personal attacks against women. It's just an appropriate and humorous adjective for describing extreme and/or unbalanced feminists Willy. I'm sure you'll get over it. I'm a life-long feminist and it didn't bother me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:46 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. They seem most likely to be women without current male relationships-- at least one has never had a long-term male relationship. And so they come across as men haters, misandrists, but it seems to largely stem from sexual frustration and personalities not suited to balanced male relationships. In the absence of a balanced relationship and something to fill the hole in their lives, they resort to projection. It seems to me the term misogynist is used in too loose a sense by our FFL Feminazis. Instead of being about men who hate women--truly a rare breed--it's more about 'things men say that we don't like and feel threatened by'. And since they have no balanced relationship in their own life, the resort to their own jilted center with which to see the world. Ah, look at all the lonely people, Where do they all come from? --Lennon-McCartney Well, Vaj, here we are again. I thought it was possible to have a sane conversation with you, but after reading this crap,I doubt it. Where do you get off imagining anything about me or anyone else who posts here? You're sounding like Barry, and I've had my fill of his BS as well. You raised a phony generalization about women haters in order to attack me personally and you did so while knowing nothing about who I love or who loves me, or what I have shared in a lifetime or loving relationships or with children, family and friends. Isn't it really stupid to make shit up about people based on a stereotype? Don't you know this is the fuel of racism, and sexism? As I have said, I don't usually draw first blood but I will defend myself against man or woman whenever I see fit. Fair warning: If you want to make shit up about me and align yourself with Barry the bully, expect return fire. For one, why did you think this post (responding to Barry) refers to you? And if it does, why would you think you might be perceived as an imbalanced or militant feminist and possibly misandrous? Is there anything in the various conversations that another might have perceived in that way? Surely you at least understand that feminism, like all things human, possesses it's own dark side? Meanwhile, since you are a Beatles fan, here's a John Lennon song dedicated to your enlightenment. http://tinyurl.com/2e4e83 Check out msg # 72447 for some of my thoughts on that very song. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/72447
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Last, hopefully, point on this for those who haven't been following it closely enough to recognize how grossly it's been distorted by Barry and his minions. I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another good rock band name). How about the Filet Minions? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another good rock band name). A death threat is a very different kind of communication than wishing someone was dead and saying so. I was originally concerned that such a threat had been made which is why I asked about it. If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode? Things are scary enough around here as it is. I would have spoken up to the person making such a threat. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode? Things are scary enough around here as it is. Interestingly, in France and now in Spain, Halloween has never really been a big deal, or celebrated. It's only lately that it's been merchandized to kids and their parents. Until only a few years ago, Halloween meant only its name -- Hallow 'een, or All Hallows Eve. It's the next day. All Saints Day, that is celebrated in France and in Spain. It's a national holiday/fiesta, and people tend to visit cemetaries to honor the dead. Then eat. Somehow in Spain all fiestas seem to lead up to eating. And for some reason I don't fully understand, the streets are suddenly full of roasted chestnut vendors. Here's what I found about it on a website: Great info, but this whole post really sounds like a death treat, Barry... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode? Things are scary enough around here as it is. Interestingly, in France and now in Spain, Halloween has never really been a big deal, or celebrated. It's only lately that it's been merchandized to kids and their parents. It certainly has become highly commercialized in the US with rows devoted to Halloween stuff in stores. Now some of those rows are already filled with Christmas stuff. Shop often shop early I guess. I think this year's Christmas is going to be Bushmas which is the name we should give at I don't think people will have that much to spend. In fact I've decided my annual holiday video will be about celebrating Bushmas and the upcoming Bush Great Depression.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:18 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be happy to explain how I was using the term death threats and why Barry's finely crafted definition and his humor excuse don't apply, if anybody is interested. Do tell. I doubt anyone will be, and that's fine, except in that case, they aren't in a position to have an opinion on whether my claim is valid. Since I'm on Barry's hit list, I'm VERY interested. Maybe if you actually had a life you'd be less interested. Why don't you both find another place to haunt? You're crashing bores and are ruining this list. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Anyway Judy I would like to hear how Turq's statements seemed like death threats to you. They aren't, this whole thing is just made up nonsense because Barry won't interact with Judy any more. Judy's FOAD, said to both Rick and me, is more of a death threat than what Barry said. Judy and raunchy both need help. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 2:53 PM, do.rflex wrote: I personally think what Barry suggested is the best way to handle both of them. Don't respond to them. Ignore them. Let them play by themselves in their own dark little worlds. Bingo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 3:13 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: Bingo. in fairness to Judy, Mr. B does consciously egg her on- he has said so himself. both act very childish in the context of this particular dynamic; Mr. B usually plays the sneaky goading one and Judy responds as the outraged correcting one. over and over and over again. talk about samskaras. That's why it's important he ignores the, ahem, problem. I'd recommend watching A Clockwork Orange for behavior mod. suggestions. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: A real commercial for TM, doncha think? In a sad way, yes. We have the earlier day 'Junk Yard Dog website (her badge she warily whines--LOL, who ever believed that!), I think this newer phenom is just begging for a good YouTube video, as it calls to mind a new assholiness. I do have to say I did learn from all this that you can exclude some thing from wholeness and still have wholeness. I know the Upanishadic dudes might opine take wholeness from wholeness and it still remains whole, but now I know you can remove assholiness from wholeness and you still have wholeness. It was an interesting paradox worth grokking...but we all move on...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:59 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three whoa- hold up there, pardner-- I agree with you regarding that creepy call, but the thinking was deranged vs. Guru-love scriptures who have very clear physical threats against speaking against the master.? I have not heard of such scriptures. Can you find me a source please? I was thinking of the Guru Gita and the Laws of Manu which spells out specific punishments in detail for banging your Guru's wife The punishment for that one, as I recall, is to cut off your genitals and walk away from the ashram, holding them in your hands, until you bleed to death. Descriptive rather than prescriptive? Does that mean that in a higher level of consciousness, one would do that to oneself spontaneously, without coercion?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *curtisdeltablues *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 5:59 PM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three whoa- hold up there, pardner-- I agree with you regarding that creepy call, but the thinking was deranged vs. Guru-love scriptures who have very clear physical threats against speaking against the master.? I have not heard of such scriptures. Can you find me a source please? I was thinking of the Guru Gita and the Laws of Manu which spells out specific punishments in detail for banging your Guru's wife The punishment for that one, as I recall, is to cut off your genitals and walk away from the ashram, holding them in your hands, until you bleed to death. Descriptive rather than prescriptive? Does that mean that in a higher level of consciousness, one would do that to oneself spontaneously, without coercion? _ This trucker came home early from a cross country haul. He saw that there was a car in the driveway he didn't recognize so he sneaked into the house. He heard moans and figured out what was happening. The next thing happening is the guest wakes up with his gonads locked in a vice with the handle pulled out of it in the garage. The driver pulled out a razor strap and a straight razor and started stropping the razor. No! No! You wouldn't. I was actually getting this ready for you. I figured you might have use for it once I set the garage on fire, said the trucker.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I don't see any evidence for the claim of misogyny against anyone here, nor have I seen any death treats. (If I were into Freudian theory, I'd hassle you about the typo.) It took me a few times through to catch it. I guess it was the influence of Halloween coming up. Great name for a rock group, Curtis--The Death Treats! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:33 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Great name for a rock group, Curtis--The Death Treats! Sal S! Don't out me in my plan to solve the early morning noise problem in my building this Halloween with some candies made in CHINA, if you know what I mean, Sal! Trick or Threat! Little monsters. I don't have to say anything, they know your type, Curtis... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
HaHa, fool ! So you don't think Nature will silence you, Mr. Archer, myself and everyone else on this forum, eventually ? You are Nature. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Mon, 10/27/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 2:04 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I left the movement (probably after some article came out with my opinion of the movement) I got a message on my phone machine (remember them!) that said: Nature will silence you! HaHa, fool ! So you don't think Nature will silence you, Mr. Archer, myself and everyone else on this forum, eventually ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:52 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: A real commercial for TM, doncha think? In a sad way, yes. We have the earlier day 'Junk Yard Dog website (her badge she warily whines--LOL, who ever believed that!), Don't know about Judy, but I refer people to the Dormouse pages of that website on a regular basis. Well it's a shame you have to live so far in the past. Like I said, YouTube awaits--and a nicely ported Powerpoint presentation to video may just be the ticket! I'm thinking the Waldstein would be the perfect soundtrack! You?