Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. nixes 2000 pundits

2006-09-26 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. nixes 2000 pundits





on 9/26/06 12:53 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  Sending the mayor an incorporated American city is slightly 
  more official-sounding then 
  someone from the TMO asking for the same thing.
 
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 A mayor from a city with about 200 residents is not somebody 
 with enough weight to make a difference.

Especially if he walks into the offices wearing
flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. :-)

Two rajas went. Rodgers Badgett also. I dont know if they wore their robes and crowns.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. nixes 2000 pundits

2006-09-26 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/26/06 6:02:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Who are 
  the people who are most likely to overstay visas? Poor people, with poor 
  job prospects back in their home country, who will want to stay in the 
  U.S. after their visa expires. The pundits' poverty is why they were 
  denied entry -- it does not matter that they would be supported while they 
  are here on their visas, legally -- the question is, how many would stay 
  in the U.S. after their visas expire? Probably none, but that is not the 
  point of view of State Dept screeners, who have to deal with the fact that 
  nearly half of all visa holders overstay in the U.S. because there are 
  economic opportunites here not available in their home 
  countries.

Besides, how many American pundit jobs will they be 
taking?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. nixes 2000 pundits

2006-09-25 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

bob_brigante wrote:

from 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Transcendental_Meditation/message/1219:


Dear Friends,


I have just come out of the Invincible America Course meeting with
Maharishi. Over the past weeks Maharishi has been doing all he can 
  

to
  

expand the numbers flying in the Fairfield Domes from the present
1,100 to 2,000 to make USA invincible (and in so doing make the 
  

world
  

a much safer place!)



A few days ago Maharishi sent Mayor Wynne off to India to convince
the USA Embassy to allow up to 2,000 pandits to come to Fairfield.
Today Maharishi announced that the Embassy has refused the
application. It was clear that Maharishi was deeply disappointed -
and also deeply concerned for America. He emphasized that we MUST
get enough flyers here (or meditators who want to become flyers) to
get the super-radiance number for USA.

  




  

If TM were the full real deal you wouldn't need 2000 pundits from 
India.   But God forbid that the average TM'er knows that the 


average 
  

Hindu knows.






The pundits know a specific body of knowledge which is not taught to 
Americans when they learn TM, namely how to recite  Vedic hymns in 
order to produce a desired influence in the environment, which is 
certainly not what the average Hindu knows, not any more than the 
average Hindu knows the skillset of a programmer in Bangalore.

But this can and has been be learned by Americans.  Why not teach this 
to  Americans for free?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. nixes 2000 pundits

2006-09-25 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

bob_brigante wrote:



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 

  

bob_brigante wrote:

from 



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Transcendental_Meditation/message/1219
  

:
  

   



Dear Friends,


I have just come out of the Invincible America Course meeting 
  

with
  

Maharishi. Over the past weeks Maharishi has been doing all he 
  

can 
  

 

  

to
 

  

expand the numbers flying in the Fairfield Domes from the present
1,100 to 2,000 to make USA invincible (and in so doing make the 
 

  

world
 

  

a much safer place!)



A few days ago Maharishi sent Mayor Wynne off to India to 
  

convince
  

the USA Embassy to allow up to 2,000 pandits to come to 
  

Fairfield.
  

Today Maharishi announced that the Embassy has refused the
application. It was clear that Maharishi was deeply 
  

disappointed -
  

and also deeply concerned for America. He emphasized that we MUST
get enough flyers here (or meditators who want to become flyers) 
  

to
  

get the super-radiance number for USA.

 

  


 

  

If TM were the full real deal you wouldn't need 2000 pundits from 
India.   But God forbid that the average TM'er knows that the 
   



average 
 

  

Hindu knows.

   





The pundits know a specific body of knowledge which is not taught 
  

to 
  

Americans when they learn TM, namely how to recite  Vedic hymns in 
order to produce a desired influence in the environment, which is 
certainly not what the average Hindu knows, not any more than the 
average Hindu knows the skillset of a programmer in Bangalore.

  



  

But this can and has been be learned by Americans.  Why not teach 


this 
  

to  Americans for free?




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If Americans were qualified to be Vedic pundits, they would have been 
born in India. Circumstances of birth are not random or democratic -- 
they reflect one's activities in past lives and one's current level 
of awareness.

  

I don't buy that at all.  I know of two twin American girls who became 
quite fluent in vedic chanting.  They amazed Indian pundits.

On a more ordinary level of understanding, I learned in pursuing my 
Master's in Applied Linguistics that people who learn a new language 
after about the age of 15 never pronounce the new language as 
fluently as a learner who acquires language earlier in life. So it's 
not really possible to make Vedic pundits anywhere you like, even if 
you are ignorant about occupation based on karmic circumstances.
  

I didn't find chanting Sanskrit all that difficult.  After all you have 
a much less ambiguous alphabet to work with than with western alphabets.





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