Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 On Thursday, December 21, 2017, 11:42:05 AM GMT, he...@hotmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
     
Re Handel: when he composed Messiah, I believe he'd been living in 
London, England next to nothing short of 30 yrs? YES
But he premiered the piece in Dublin. Later on there were London performances. 
Depending on what singers were available he rewrote songs, so there are 
multiple versions of Messiah. There is one that is for male voices only (in 
1751), probably performed in a church.
"By 1741, when he composed “Messiah”, Italian opera was out of favour and his 
fortunes were on the wane. An old friend, the musician Matthew Dubourg, 
arranged for him to be invited to Dublin by three charitable societies, for a 
series of six concerts."

"Handel arrived in November 1741 and took rooms at 26 Lower Abbey Street. He 
gathered an orchestra and chorus, mainly from the city’s two cathedrals and 
worked with them on “Messiah”. Public rehearsals generated great interest: the 
notice for the first performance urged ladies not to wear hoops and gentlemen 
to “come without their swords” to save space. With Handel both conducting and 
playing an organ, the Dublin audience expressed its 'exquisite delight'."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re Handel: when he composed Messiah, I believe he'd been living in  London, 
England next to nothing short of 30 yrs?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Handel's Messiah was originally performed in Dublin, Ireland around Easter 
time. It was designed as a concert piece. Many back then objected to it being 
sung by theater people. Somehow the work has become associated more with 
Christmas than Easter.
As for singing, "The Lord" is two syllables and "The Transcendent" is four, so 
it would not fit the music Handel wrote, and despite his strong German accent, 
he normally knew precisely how to render English words musically.
There is a spot in one of the songs however where he did put an unusual accent 
on the word incorruptible, putting the accent on the "ti" which most conductors 
try to fix.
Are you in God consciousness or something? You seem to put a lot of stress on 
religiously oriented values here.
>From what I can tell, this group originally had a rather wide range of views 
>from atheism to strong believers in Maharishi's offerings.
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017, 1:21:37 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Good point. ‘Transcendent’ peace would work.


This last week we had a sing-along of Handel's Messiah in Fairfield

and I sat there singing through the libretto wondering how

it sings as a Transcendentalist might sing it.

The paraphrase pops a meaning out right away

in to a more contemporary ‘spiritual but-not religious’  vernacular.

Start right from the beginning substituting ‘Transcendent’ for ‘The Lord’.

It works in meaning very well. A lot of times ‘The Lord’ is sung inside tied 
notes

where ‘the Transcendent’ substituted works fine in high lighting a deeper 
meaning. 

Substituting in paraphrase..
How beautiful are they who preach The Transcendent peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.

It puts a whole 'nother level of meaning and also a sympathetic context of 
those teachers of Transcendentalism, like TM initiators or to mystics who come 
seemingly as avatars.  Though whole sections of the original libretto wander 
through some other theology otherwise the switch makes for a good spiritual 
reading/ sing through of The Messiah. 
#

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Transcendence of peace" means to go beyond peace, I am not sure that is what 
you meant. It would mean peace is bypassed. 
The might mean the absence of peace or it could mean something beyond peace and 
non-peace, but not peace itself. 
It could also mean one transcends non-peace, and somehow gains peace, but the 
word order is ambiguous as removing non-peace might be neither peace nor its 
opposite.
Until enlightenment, expressed as "The Transcendent," this terminology 
considers this goal as an object even though it is the subjective value of 
experience and not an object of experience, it is the value that contains the 
objects of experience and illuminates them (if you think of it dualistically). 
Transcendence is more like a verb than a noun. It implies passage rather than 
arrival. 
You pass beyond ignorance, but the removal of ignorance does not mean you are 
in a different place -- you are in the same place, but not quite so 
half-witted, seeing things clearly for once.
Transcendence as a concept is a stand-in word for the process of renewal and 
repair. The destination is always where you are and this never changes. 
Using transcendent as a noun implies one is at the bottom of the spiritual 
ladder, hopefully looking up to supposedly a better life. If still hoping for 
this, the point of it all is missed once again. Difficult it is to get out of 
this mental straight jacket.
Religion tries to maintain the straight jacket, while spirituality tries to 
break the mould so the nature of freedom and captivity become clear.
If you consider it from a unified perspective, differences pale, it cannot be 
thought because there is no subject or object, even if you were standing in the 
midst of a thunderstorm and being pummeled by hail, deafened by thunder and 
blinded by lightning.
And remember pride is the inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, 
merit, or superiority. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit 
before a fall." You want to transcend ignorance but pride is an unfortunate 
by-product of ignorance. It is a crutch and shows lack of courage, lack of self 
reliance, a mask of puffed up self image.

 On Monday, December 18, 2017, 11:28:40 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 



| 
How beautiful are they who preach the Transcendence of peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.


 | 
 
 |
| 
Their sound is gone out into all lands,

and their words unto the ends of the world.

 | 
 |



Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a 
vain thing?

The kings of the earth rise up, and the rulers take counsel together against 
the Unified Field Transcendent, and against it's anointed.



Let us break their bonds asunder, and cast away their 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Good point. ‘Transcendent’ peace would work.

 This last week we had a sing-along of Handel's Messiah in Fairfield
 and I sat there singing through the libretto wondering how
 it sings as a Transcendentalist might sing it.
 The paraphrase pops a meaning out right away
 in to a more contemporary ‘spiritual but-not religious’  vernacular.
 Start right from the beginning substituting ‘Transcendent’ for ‘The Lord’.
 It works in meaning very well. A lot of times ‘The Lord’ is sung inside tied 
notes
 where ‘the Transcendent’ substituted works fine in high lighting a deeper 
meaning. 
 

 Substituting in paraphrase..
 

 How beautiful are they who preach The Transcendent peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.

It puts a whole 'nother level of meaning and also a sympathetic context of 
those teachers of Transcendentalism, like TM initiators or to mystics who come 
seemingly as avatars.  Though whole sections of the original libretto wander 
through some other theology otherwise the switch makes for a good spiritual 
reading/ sing through of The Messiah. 
 

 #
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 "Transcendence of peace" means to go beyond peace, I am not sure that is what 
you meant. It would mean peace is bypassed. 
 

 The might mean the absence of peace or it could mean something beyond peace 
and non-peace, but not peace itself. 
 

 It could also mean one transcends non-peace, and somehow gains peace, but the 
word order is ambiguous as removing non-peace might be neither peace nor its 
opposite.
 

 Until enlightenment, expressed as "The Transcendent," this terminology 
considers this goal as an object even though it is the subjective value of 
experience and not an object of experience, it is the value that contains the 
objects of experience and illuminates them (if you think of it dualistically). 
 

 Transcendence is more like a verb than a noun. It implies passage rather than 
arrival. 
 

 You pass beyond ignorance, but the removal of ignorance does not mean you are 
in a different place -- you are in the same place, but not quite so 
half-witted, seeing things clearly for once.
 

 Transcendence as a concept is a stand-in word for the process of renewal and 
repair. The destination is always where you are and this never changes. 
 

 Using transcendent as a noun implies one is at the bottom of the spiritual 
ladder, hopefully looking up to supposedly a better life. If still hoping for 
this, the point of it all is missed once again. Difficult it is to get out of 
this mental straight jacket.
 

 Religion tries to maintain the straight jacket, while spirituality tries to 
break the mould so the nature of freedom and captivity become clear.
 

 If you consider it from a unified perspective, differences pale, it cannot be 
thought because there is no subject or object, even if you were standing in the 
midst of a thunderstorm and being pummeled by hail, deafened by thunder and 
blinded by lightning.
 

 And remember pride is the inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, 
merit, or superiority. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit 
before a fall." You want to transcend ignorance but pride is an unfortunate 
by-product of ignorance. It is a crutch and shows lack of courage, lack of self 
reliance, a mask of puffed up self image.
 

 On Monday, December 18, 2017, 11:28:40 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote: 
 

 

   

 How beautiful are they who preach the Transcendence of peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.


 
 Their sound is gone out into all lands,
 and their words unto the ends of the world.

 


 Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a 
vain thing?
 The kings of the earth rise up, and the rulers take counsel together against 
the Unified Field Transcendent, and against it's anointed.


 Let us break their bonds asunder, and cast away their yokes from us.
 

 
 Friends; Transcendentalist pride, evidently in the long course of human events 
this is really important to humanity. Transcendental-ism. Certainly if only by 
our life experience as Transcendental-ists we should all correctly and fairly 
feel strongly and rightfully so in the -ism of Transcendentalism. With pride. 
It is time to sit up, to straighten the back and hold our heads high in public 
discourse and take back Transcendentalism from the fictions of utopia and the 
materialism of ignorance. It is time for transcendentalists to take back 
transcendentalism from those who would trammel on our sacred and unified field 
of transcendentalism. It is time. It is time to meditate and then affect, 
unified and in field effect. N-squared! N-squared is the cosmic cry of these 
times. It is time for transcendentalists to come up, close ranks and meditate 
once again together. The science tells us and our experience shows us. Stay 
close. Proximity and numbers matter 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 "Transcendence of peace" means to go beyond peace, I am not sure that is what 
you meant. It would mean peace is bypassed. 
The might mean the absence of peace or it could mean something beyond peace and 
non-peace, but not peace itself. 
It could also mean one transcends non-peace, and somehow gains peace, but the 
word order is ambiguous as removing non-peace might be neither peace nor its 
opposite.
Until enlightenment, expressed as "The Transcendent," this terminology 
considers this goal as an object even though it is the subjective value of 
experience and not an object of experience, it is the value that contains the 
objects of experience and illuminates them (if you think of it dualistically). 
Transcendence is more like a verb than a noun. It implies passage rather than 
arrival. 
You pass beyond ignorance, but the removal of ignorance does not mean you are 
in a different place -- you are in the same place, but not quite so 
half-witted, seeing things clearly for once.
Transcendence as a concept is a stand-in word for the process of renewal and 
repair. The destination is always where you are and this never changes. 
Using transcendent as a noun implies one is at the bottom of the spiritual 
ladder, hopefully looking up to supposedly a better life. If still hoping for 
this, the point of it all is missed once again. Difficult it is to get out of 
this mental straight jacket.
Religion tries to maintain the straight jacket, while spirituality tries to 
break the mould so the nature of freedom and captivity become clear.
If you consider it from a unified perspective, differences pale, it cannot be 
thought because there is no subject or object, even if you were standing in the 
midst of a thunderstorm and being pummeled by hail, deafened by thunder and 
blinded by lightning.
And remember pride is the inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, 
merit, or superiority. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit 
before a fall." You want to transcend ignorance but pride is an unfortunate 
by-product of ignorance. It is a crutch and shows lack of courage, lack of self 
reliance, a mask of puffed up self image.
On Monday, December 18, 2017, 11:28:40 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     



| 
How beautiful are they who preach the Transcendence of peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.


 | 
 
 |
| 
Their sound is gone out into all lands,

and their words unto the ends of the world.

 | 
 |



Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a 
vain thing?

The kings of the earth rise up, and the rulers take counsel together against 
the Unified Field Transcendent, and against it's anointed.



Let us break their bonds asunder, and cast away their yokes from us.



Friends;Transcendentalist pride, evidently in the long course of humanevents 
this is really important to humanity. Transcendental-ism.Certainly if only by 
our life experience as Transcendental-ists weshould all correctly and fairly 
feel strongly and rightfully so inthe -ism of Transcendentalism. With pride. It 
is time to sit up, tostraighten the back and hold our heads high in public 
discourse andtake back Transcendentalism from the fictions of utopia and 
thematerialism of ignorance. It is time for transcendentalists to takeback 
transcendentalism from those who would trammel on our sacred andunified field 
of transcendentalism. It is time. It is time tomeditate and then affect, 
unified and in field effect. N-squared!N-squared is the cosmic cry of these 
times. It is time fortranscendentalists to come up, close ranks and meditate 
once againtogether. The science tells us and our experience shows us. 
Stayclose. Proximity and numbers matter in this fight. I would begrateful to 
any who would join us in this. -Buck 




# Now,Om, Om, Om! The Pride of my Transcendentalism. In changing the 
publicdiscourse around the word Transcendentalism I should count progressin the 
war with some people here who are against Transcendentalismwhen we can have 
some of these real negativists come to ontologicallychange their own thinking 
and feelings about Transcendentalism and Beable to claim themselves as, 
Transcendentalists once again. Theworld should be much a better place and safer 
for with less hate forthe word, Transcendentalism and our own people as 
Transcendentaliststhen. We will never stop fighting until the nature of 
theanti-Transcendental negativistic thinking here is changed. “All weare saying 
is give Peace a chance” as so obviouslyTranscendentalism is the answer inside 
of everything in nature.Finding that 'change' begins within for everyone, even 
the FFLneganauts here, it is time to change some wrong thinking around theword, 
Transcendentalism and take it back for the pride of theTranscendentalist in 
everyone of us. 

-Buckin the Dome 




 In reclaimingTranscendentalism now, for a moment do feel in to the -ist