Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists
In the world of political discussions, my experience is that while liberals may
use the Shoot the messenger tactic too, they don't use it as often as
conservatives. The reason is that the liberals in most cases actually know
enough about the ideas being discussed and the facts behind them as to have no
fear about discussing them. The conservatives, on the whole, do *not* know the
facts, and so they avoid any debate that would reveal this, preferring to
name-call and try to discredit the other person instead.
In the context I'm talking about (FFL), however, there is a *clear* pattern
that we can attribute to the TM TBs who have consistently practiced Shoot the
messenger on this forum for *decades*. They -- on the whole -- run this Shoot
the messenger routine *instead* of discussing or debating the ideas that the
messenger/critics bring up.
Over a period of years, critics such as myself, Vaj, Curtis, Salyavin, Michael,
and many others have usually been willing to focus on the ideas themselves, as
opposed to doing what the TBs do, which is to *ignore* the ideas, try to divert
the conversation away from the ideas, and focus only on ad hominem comments and
and things they think will discredit the critics. IMO, many of these TBs (or
trolls) literally have nothing to say *except* to try to play Shoot the
messenger. A couple of them have supposedly even left this forum for that
other place, but are so addicted to the ad hominem that they read every post
here and come back to do a Shoot the messenger drive-by whenever one of the
same critics they've been trying to discredit for years says something new that
pushes their buttons again.
My point is that this behavioral trend on the part of the TM TBs is C U L T
B E H A V I O R. They didn't develop it by accident. They were *taught* to
react this way any time the dogma they've been spoon-fed by the TMO is
challenged.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Didn't waist my time reading the article but it seems to imply that this is
not a tactic used by liberals as well. LOL.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Especially the religious fanatics and cultists on Fairfield Life. Some less
brainwashed person says something they don't like because it causes them to
realize that their beliefs or their spiritual teacher are kinda silly, and
rather than react to the criticisms themselves, they attack the critics
personally and try to smear them.
Fortunately, all but a couple of these religious fanatics bailed from FFL
recently. This is just a reminder to the 2 or 3 who are left that nobody is
buying your tactics.
The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Individuals, Even Kids,
Instead of Ideas
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists
Didn't waist my time reading the article but it seems to imply that this is not
a tactic used by liberals as well. LOL.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious
fanatics and cultists
Especially the religious fanatics and cultists on Fairfield Life. Some less
brainwashed person says something they don't like because it causes them to
realize that their beliefs or their spiritual teacher are kinda silly, and
rather than react to the criticisms themselves, they attack the critics
personally and try to smear them.
Fortunately, all but a couple of these religious fanatics bailed from FFL
recently. This is just a reminder to the 2 or 3 who are left that nobody is
buying your tactics.
The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Individuals, Even Kids,
Instead of Ideas
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| The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Indiv...Conservatives
attack and smear individuals to silence them and discredit popular ideas. |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In the context I'm talking about (FFL), however, there is a *clear* pattern that we can attribute to the TM TBs who have consistently practiced Shoot the messenger on this forum for *decades*. They -- on the whole -- run this Shoot the messenger routine *instead* of discussing or debating the ideas that the messenger/critics bring up. I've been sitting three feet in front of him and seen him go invisible, to the point where you could see stars through the outline of his body, and then no outline. I've seen him do the same trick from the feet up, leaving only a Cheshire Cat smile before it went pop! and disappeared, too. - TurquoiseBee From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Didn't waist my time reading the article but it seems to imply that this is not a tactic used by liberals as well. LOL. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Especially the religious fanatics and cultists on Fairfield Life. Some less brainwashed person says something they don't like because it causes them to realize that their beliefs or their spiritual teacher are kinda silly, and rather than react to the criticisms themselves, they attack the critics personally and try to smear them. Fortunately, all but a couple of these religious fanatics bailed from FFL recently. This is just a reminder to the 2 or 3 who are left that nobody is buying your tactics. The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Individuals, Even Kids, Instead of Ideas http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Indiv... http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas Conservatives attack and smear individuals to silence them and discredit popular ideas. View on www.alternet.org http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists
In the world of political discussion, that very well could be your very own
experience, based upon your very own political bias. To say *my* group is
better informed than *your* group is a real cop-out. Ever watch MSNBC, Jon
Stewart, read Daily Kos, Huffington Post etc? I do for laughs. To say
liberals have no fear of discussing issues, just go watch a conservative speak
on a university or college campus and watch the pies thrown at the speaker of
have that person shouted down. Shut down debate is more likely. Just watch
Democrats in the coming week boycott Benjamin Netanyahu's speech before
Congress. They just don't want to hear the other side. What's really funny
about that is Obama hates Netanyahu but says his appearance before Congress
could show favoritism for him just two weeks before the Israeli election, yet
he sends his election staff to help Netanyahu's opponent's campaign. LOL
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious
fanatics and cultists
In the world of political discussions, my experience is that while liberals
may use the Shoot the messenger tactic too, they don't use it as often as
conservatives. The reason is that the liberals in most cases actually know
enough about the ideas being discussed and the facts behind them as to have no
fear about discussing them. The conservatives, on the whole, do *not* know the
facts, and so they avoid any debate that would reveal this, preferring to
name-call and try to discredit the other person instead.
In the context I'm talking about (FFL), however, there is a *clear* pattern
that we can attribute to the TM TBs who have consistently practiced Shoot the
messenger on this forum for *decades*. They -- on the whole -- run this Shoot
the messenger routine *instead* of discussing or debating the ideas that the
messenger/critics bring up.
Over a period of years, critics such as myself, Vaj, Curtis, Salyavin, Michael,
and many others have usually been willing to focus on the ideas themselves, as
opposed to doing what the TBs do, which is to *ignore* the ideas, try to divert
the conversation away from the ideas, and focus only on ad hominem comments and
and things they think will discredit the critics. IMO, many of these TBs (or
trolls) literally have nothing to say *except* to try to play Shoot the
messenger. A couple of them have supposedly even left this forum for that
other place, but are so addicted to the ad hominem that they read every post
here and come back to do a Shoot the messenger drive-by whenever one of the
same critics they've been trying to discredit for years says something new that
pushes their buttons again.
My point is that this behavioral trend on the part of the TM TBs is C U L T
B E H A V I O R. They didn't develop it by accident. They were *taught* to
react this way any time the dogma they've been spoon-fed by the TMO is
challenged.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Didn't waist my time reading the article but it seems to imply that this is
not a tactic used by liberals as well. LOL.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Especially the religious fanatics and cultists on Fairfield Life. Some less
brainwashed person says something they don't like because it causes them to
realize that their beliefs or their spiritual teacher are kinda silly, and
rather than react to the criticisms themselves, they attack the critics
personally and try to smear them.
Fortunately, all but a couple of these religious fanatics bailed from FFL
recently. This is just a reminder to the 2 or 3 who are left that nobody is
buying your tactics.
The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Individuals, Even Kids,
Instead of Ideas
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| The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Indiv...Conservatives
attack and smear individuals to silence them and discredit popular ideas. |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Didn't waist my time reading the article but it seems to imply that this is not a tactic used by liberals as well. LOL. I had 14 years in the TMO and 20 more years in other organizations to work out those opinions, and stand by them fullly. - Uncle Tantra From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What conservatives have in common with religious fanatics and cultists Especially the religious fanatics and cultists on Fairfield Life. Some less brainwashed person says something they don't like because it causes them to realize that their beliefs or their spiritual teacher are kinda silly, and rather than react to the criticisms themselves, they attack the critics personally and try to smear them. Fortunately, all but a couple of these religious fanatics bailed from FFL recently. This is just a reminder to the 2 or 3 who are left that nobody is buying your tactics. The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Individuals, Even Kids, Instead of Ideas http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas The Ugly Conservative Tactic of Brutally Attacking Indiv... http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas Conservatives attack and smear individuals to silence them and discredit popular ideas. View on www.alternet.org http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ugly-conservative-tactic-brutally-attacking-individuals-even-kids-instead-ideas Preview by Yahoo
