Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill that he has Marshy's complete commentary on the Gita - he read some excerpts to Bill in several phone conversations he had with Jerry a couple months ago. One assumes Jerry had his own copy rather than his purloining Charlie's. From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
I think you consider an internship with Jerry, Michael. Why don't you check it out. Paid,or unpaid, I'd recommend it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill that he has Marshy's complete commentary on the Gita - he read some excerpts to Bill in several phone conversations he had with Jerry a couple months ago. One assumes Jerry had his own copy rather than his purloining Charlie's. From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. MMY's commentary is already a classic, BillyG. Classical in the sense that it's MMY's commentary. The important thing to realize is that the Bhagavad Gita tells the story of a battle in the form of an allegory - it's not a treatise on fighting or battle techniques. The BG describes /skill in action/, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
Like (-: On Friday, September 12, 2014 8:38 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. MMY's commentary is already a classic, BillyG. Classical in the sense that it's MMY's commentary. The important thing to realize is that the Bhagavad Gita tells the story of a battle in the form of an allegory - it's not a treatise on fighting or battle techniques. The BG describes skill in action, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
On 9/12/2014 7:16 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you consider an internship with Jerry, Michael. Why don't you check it out. Paid,or unpaid, I'd recommend it. MJ should probably consult a cult-exit counselor first, at a free clinic, or at least send a note to Gina at TM-Free, BEFORE he gets an internship with Jerry. If MJ is going to be a double-agent informant, his boss John Knapp should probably be informed. It's obvious that MJ is an informant - but it should be clear who he is working for if he is going to be allowed to post disinformation to FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill that he has Marshy's complete commentary on the Gita - he read some excerpts to Bill in several phone conversations he had with Jerry a couple months ago. One assumes Jerry had his own copy rather than his purloining Charlie's. *From:* wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:47 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Like (-: Dearest Share, I know you get it. I'm making progress (slow, but steady, gotta get rid of the distractions) on the Commentary. Becoming more self-helpy (I always wanted to help Others) as I progress. Since you liked hearing about NYC FW, here's what the women were passing on: http://ny.racked.com/archives/2014/09/02/september_sample_sales_1.php http://ny.racked.com/archives/2014/09/02/september_sample_sales_1.php On Friday, September 12, 2014 8:38 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. MMY's commentary is already a classic, BillyG. Classical in the sense that it's MMY's commentary. The important thing to realize is that the Bhagavad Gita tells the story of a battle in the form of an allegory - it's not a treatise on fighting or battle techniques. The BG describes skill in action, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
Ack, Daniel! You snipped the part I liked, from Richard: The BG describes skill in action, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On Friday, September 12, 2014 10:51 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Like (-: Dearest Share, I know you get it. I'm making progress (slow, but steady, gotta get rid of the distractions) on the Commentary. Becoming more self-helpy (I always wanted to help Others) as I progress. Since you liked hearing about NYC FW, here's what the women were passing on: http://ny.racked.com/archives/2014/09/02/september_sample_sales_1.php On Friday, September 12, 2014 8:38 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. MMY's commentary is already a classic, BillyG. Classical in the sense that it's MMY's commentary. The important thing to realize is that the Bhagavad Gita tells the story of a battle in the form of an allegory - it's not a treatise on fighting or battle techniques. The BG describes skill in action, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
Dan, I also liked from Richard: It is a mistake to think of the BG as a manual for battle or an 'Art of War' work. The compiler of the BG was explaining yoga, not fighting. The BG is a polemic aimed at refuting the pacifism of the Buddhists, but the primary aim of the authors is to explain to people how to transcend the three gunas, how NOT to be attached to them. As for the sales, any cords on sale? Hey do those models even know what cords are?! On Friday, September 12, 2014 10:51 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Like (-: Dearest Share, I know you get it. I'm making progress (slow, but steady, gotta get rid of the distractions) on the Commentary. Becoming more self-helpy (I always wanted to help Others) as I progress. Since you liked hearing about NYC FW, here's what the women were passing on: http://ny.racked.com/archives/2014/09/02/september_sample_sales_1.php On Friday, September 12, 2014 8:38 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. MMY's commentary is already a classic, BillyG. Classical in the sense that it's MMY's commentary. The important thing to realize is that the Bhagavad Gita tells the story of a battle in the form of an allegory - it's not a treatise on fighting or battle techniques. The BG describes skill in action, a path of Yoga which allows the individual to avoid selfish desires, by engaging in a higher form of activity, namely, giving up all attachment to the fruit of one's actions. It's not complicated. On 9/11/2014 8:47 PM, wgm4u wrote: Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
There is sooo much more in the Gita, if you just sit back and think you got it by just reading 6 chapters of MMY's it makes me want to cry. Below is an incredible translation and commentary by a real saint IMHO, read it and be amazed. Not only on what you read by what you didn't read in MMY's Gita! http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/det... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg View on bookstore.yogananda-... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg Preview by Yahoo
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You're right Share, but that only scratches the surface of this great classic Masterpiece by Vyasa!, and how he cleverly intertwines the Sanskrit names with the esoteric principles behind them (much like Raja Ram does in his publication) to bring out the inner meaning is truly amazing, MMY doesn't do that!! The BG unfold the WHOLE study of Yoga, it's all there, not just a few simple comments and observations.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : There is sooo much more in the Gita, if you just sit back and think you got it by just reading 6 chapters of MMY's it makes me want to cry. Below is an incredible translation and commentary by a real saint IMHO, read it and be amazed. Not only on what you read by what you didn't read in MMY's Gita! For those who were interested in reading the full Bhagavad Gita, Maharishi suggested that until his complete Translation and Commentary would be widely available, reading Yogananda's work would be worthwhile. I did and later read through Maharishi's complete Translation and Commentary, which I found more valuable. http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/det... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg View on bookstore.yogananda-... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg Preview by Yahoo
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Thanks, wgm, but it was Richard who was right (-: On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:32 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You're right Share, but that only scratches the surface of this great classic Masterpiece by Vyasa!, and how he cleverly intertwines the Sanskrit names with the esoteric principles behind them (much like Raja Ram does in his publication) to bring out the inner meaning is truly amazing, MMY doesn't do that!! The BG unfold the WHOLE study of Yoga, it's all there, not just a few simple comments and observations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
or maybe we petition Brad O'Nash to make a formal apology to Michael. To: Michael J. From: Brad O-N Michael, I'm sorry that I said one time that your biscuits were burnt. And I'm sorry further, that I said I thought the ghee you made one time was a bit sour. I'm sorry I chided you for dropping the bread tray on the floor, when you said you were attending to a fellow kitchen member who had just cut her finger with a knife. For these and other transgressions on my part, I hope you will forgive me. Your Friend, Brad O'Nash, aka The Bradster Do you think this will do the trick to make Michael feel not so aggrieved? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 9/12/2014 7:16 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you consider an internship with Jerry, Michael. Why don't you check it out. Paid,or unpaid, I'd recommend it. MJ should probably consult a cult-exit counselor first, at a free clinic, or at least send a note to Gina at TM-Free, BEFORE he gets an internship with Jerry. If MJ is going to be a double-agent informant, his boss John Knapp should probably be informed. It's obvious that MJ is an informant - but it should be clear who he is working for if he is going to be allowed to post disinformation to FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill that he has Marshy's complete commentary on the Gita - he read some excerpts to Bill in several phone conversations he had with Jerry a couple months ago. One assumes Jerry had his own copy rather than his purloining Charlie's. From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic. Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
