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Xeno, thanks for your suggestions. I think I skim even when I check my own posts! So I'll slow down with that and see if I can detect the gaps in my logic. I really don't like all the space that Neo puts between paragraphs so instead I'll do what I did here. I skipped to the next line when I skipped to a new sub topic. I'll see if I like how that comes out once it's sent. As for my allegedly spongy worldview, maybe it has to do with that *diagnostic thinking* that I mentioned before and that indicates a strong tendency to make connections and make big leaps when drawing conclusions. Maybe the slower checking will help alleviate that. I'll have to work that line between staunch precision and harsh anger. Tomorrow, October 5 is the 4th anniversary of my 15 yr long SO. I'm still upset about harsh words I said to him. So I'm more careful about that in general. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies Share - I do not think Judy parrots me at all, and certainly she does not parrot Turq. If there is a common element which we have all arrived at independently, it is your thinking, as expressed on FFL, often seems very out of focus when applied to the matter at hand. Now someone like Judy might not grasp what you are talking about because the world view gap is significant, but in your case, it is often hard to determine if there is a consistent experience behind what you say. I have a definite world view; Turq seems to have a fairly definite way of viewing life, and Judy has a fairly standard way of approaching those, but I do not think Judy grasps these world views of ours. And she definitely has a very well delineated world view. But I find what I can grasp of your world view is so spongy, like a melted marshmallow, it is often hard to grasp what you are talking about, which is why I recommend you post less but spend some time writing longer posts, and reviewing them once, twice, thrice, before sending them off. I would love to post more, but I do not have the time or stamina to do it. There have been times when you have gotten precise and direct - when you are angry, I think, and then sometimes a staunch precision comes through. I think Judy probably would like to see more of that from you. Arguments about world views or states of consciousness do not seem to appeal to her, telling her that because of her 'lower' state of consciousness she does not understand something that someone is experiencing in a 'higher' state of consciousness, or vice versa. It is particularly important when interacting with Judy to be precise, even though she may use her precision to de-track your argument in various ways. I do not think Judy often argues with the point to gain knowledge, just argues for the glory of running you off the rails. Stephen King wrote a book on writing. Here are a couple of tips: 'Paragraphs are almost always as important for how they look as for what they say; they are maps of intent.' 'Writing is refined thinking.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com SHARE wrote: Judy, I don't think the views of Xeno or turq or noozguru spring from the same prejudice towards me as yours do and therefore they are not similar at all. Except that you've parroted them. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies Actually I haven't parroted anything they've said to you. Sorry, but what I wrote happens to be my own thoughts about you. But it's certainly interesting that all three of us have similar views, isn't it? Especially since we don't agree on much of anything else? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com SHARE wrote: Judy, your parroting some of what Xeno and turq have said to me does not make your observations or suggestions more valid to me. IMO they are coming from a more neutral place with regards to me. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies You obviously had time to write a detailed response to the post of Seraphita's you say you just skimmed because you were rushing, Share, so that claim doesn't hold much water. As to your having more stuff than others, it's what compels you to spew umpty posts with almost no content, including your pandering posts and your feeble attempts at gotcha posts, as well as your inability to take responsibility for your
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Judy, your parroting some of what Xeno and turq have said to me does not make your observations or suggestions more valid to me. IMO they are coming from a more neutral place with regards to me. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies You obviously had time to write a detailed response to the post of Seraphita's you say you just skimmed because you were rushing, Share, so that claim doesn't hold much water. As to your having more stuff than others, it's what compels you to spew umpty posts with almost no content, including your pandering posts and your feeble attempts at gotcha posts, as well as your inability to take responsibility for your behavior. Suggestion: If you must read FFL before you bop off to the domes (hardly, I should think, a good preparation for settling down to experience silence), save your responses for when you get back and are no longer in a rush, so you have time to put some thought into them (and read what you're responding to with sustained attention). That's a good prescription for whatever the time of day is, BTW. You really do not need to post every stray thought that enters your mind. In fact, you'll get more of the attention and approval you so crave, and less of the criticism you so fear, if you make fewer, better posts. Also, most of us don't feel the need to proffer extravagant thanks for every post we appreciate, nor do the folks who make such posts expect it. Save the accolades for the really good ones, maybe the best one of the day after you've read them all. Then perhaps your appreciation will count for something. There are many other ways you could mitigate the negative effects on FFL of your excess of stuff, but the above will do for now. Judy, I can live with your not believing me about anything. And I see you're still trying to poison the well with your comment about respecting Seraphita's posts. I skim because I'm rushing in the morning. And so what if I have more stuff than others? So what? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies I don't believe you, Share. And I notice you didn't respond to what I asked you. Not even a secondary. As I said, that is your projection. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies OK, so it was your SECONDARY purpose to do a gotcha. Close enough. BTW, if you think Seraphita so often posts cool stuff, how come all you do is skim it? Especially when you then go on to make a detailed response? I agree with you that she posts cool stuff. But as far as I'm concerned, that makes her posts deserving of the respect of careful reading and a thoughtful response. YMMV (and obviously does). Judy, my MAIN purpose was to support Seraphita who so often posts cool stuff. All the rest is your projection of your shadow stuff, unresolved childhood stuff. IMO This is just a cheap shot. We all have shadow stuff and unresolved childhood stuff, but some of us (like you) have way more than others. You, for example, have a desperate need to be accepted, as well as a compulsion to get those who find your pandering unwholesome, for reasons you've told us about but that I won't spell out here. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies Share bleated: Seraphita, just so you know, I didn't ignore what you wrote. I skimmed and I forgot. But wrote a detailed response involving elaborate conjectures anyway. I'll tell you what I think your motivation was in writing the post. (It's just a guess, but you'll deny it even if it's correct.) I think your main purpose was to suggest that in asking how we knew what Bentov had been thinking, I had failed to consider the possibility that he had told his wife before boarding the plane. That attempted gotcha, I suspect, was uppermost in your mind as you wrote your response, and that's why you overlooked how Seraphita had described the incident. In any case, it's typical of your failure to think things through before you make your posts, your habit of making instant connections just in order to have something to say, without considering whether those connections make any sense. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife
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Judy, I don't think the views of Xeno or turq or noozguru spring from the same prejudice towards me as yours do and therefore they are not similar at all. Except that you've parroted them. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies Actually I haven't parroted anything they've said to you. Sorry, but what I wrote happens to be my own thoughts about you. But it's certainly interesting that all three of us have similar views, isn't it? Especially since we don't agree on much of anything else? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, your parroting some of what Xeno and turq have said to me does not make your observations or suggestions more valid to me. IMO they are coming from a more neutral place with regards to me. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov reaches for the skies You obviously had time to write a detailed response to the post of Seraphita's you say you just skimmed because you were rushing, Share, so that claim doesn't hold much water. As to your having more stuff than others, it's what compels you to spew umpty posts with almost no content, including your pandering posts and your feeble attempts at gotcha posts, as well as your inability to take responsibility for your behavior. Suggestion: If you must read FFL before you bop off to the domes (hardly, I should think, a good preparation for settling down to experience silence), save your responses for when you get back and are no longer in a rush, so you have time to put some thought into them (and read what you're responding to with sustained attention). That's a good prescription for whatever the time of day is, BTW. You really do not need to post every stray thought that enters your mind. In fact, you'll get more of the attention and approval you so crave, and less of the criticism you so fear, if you make fewer, better posts. Also, most of us don't feel the need to proffer extravagant thanks for every post we appreciate, nor do the folks who make such posts expect it. Save the accolades for the really good ones, maybe the best one of the day after you've read them all. Then perhaps your appreciation will count for something. There are many other ways you could mitigate the negative effects on FFL of your excess of stuff, but the above will do for now. Judy, I can live with your not believing me about anything. And I see you're still trying to poison the well with your comment about respecting Seraphita's posts. I skim because I'm rushing in the morning. And so what if I have more stuff than others? So what?