Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
Ricardo Cruz wrote: Hello there, This message is meant to be directed for Bluecurve developers. If you guys know of a better address please forward to it. Bluecurve was done almost entirely by a single person - Garrett LeSage, who does not work for Red Hat anymore. Fedora itself has moved to using Clearlooks for GNOME and possibly Plastik for KDE in Fedora 7 which is the default upstream themes. The Bluecurve icon set has also been replace by Echo in the current development tree. I have recently started a project for having kde applications rendered as gtk ones (the inverse of gtk-qt-engine). For that, I have come up with a middle layer which I have called of QSimpleStyle. This framework sits on top of QStyle which it shapes into two methods; one for drawing primitives of the various elements of a widget, the other asks for attributes of the said elements. More info at: http://gtk4qt.sourceforge.net/qsimplestyle/ It is early work, but the efforts you spent with it are efforts you save from the maintenance of your style as it is especially useful for cross-desktop styles. Hope to hear from you. It is useful to have it in the repository and see if we can get people to experiment and be creative with it. Do you want to maintain it in Fedora? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): It is useful to have it in the repository and see if we can get people to experiment and be creative with it. Do you want to maintain it in Fedora? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Agreed, but I also noticed on their homepage that QSimpleStyle is a part of gtk4qt project which aims to be for Gnome what is gtk-qt-engine for KDE - i.e. transition layer for kde to use gtk themes directly (and thus allowing Gnome users to have QT apps look like if they were GTK apps). I think it would be useful to have this package as well, and probably QSimpleStyle only as a subpackage. Thanks, Martin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo icon set: preferences-system mockups
Le Dim 18 mars 2007 19:11, Martin Sourada a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): I just displayed it in evo which happens to use colors very close to those of my panel. Just caught myself thinking there is a blue screwdriver after a few seconds – I missed it at first ... Anything but blue ;) (or repaint the monitor) I made a green version [2] and 24x24 version [1]. Is it better now? Fine with me, though too much blue+green gives a bluish cold ambiance But others should comment too -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
Bluecurve was done almost entirely by a single person - Garrett LeSage, who does not work for Red Hat anymore. Fedora itself has moved to using Clearlooks for GNOME and possibly Plastik for KDE in Fedora 7 which is the default upstream themes. The Bluecurve icon set has also been replace by Echo in the current development tree. However, the Bluecurve icon theme was and still is the default icon theme for all RHEL versions including 5 [supported until *2014*], and therefore certainly deserves some maintenance either by the Fedora community or Red Hat itself. At least keep symlinks up to date as in the case of Places CD/DVD Creator which used to show the correct Bluecurve icon up to FC5 but now uses a Tango one even when the Bluecurve icon theme has been chosen. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: preference-desktop-theme icon draft
On 10/03/07, Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 13:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Reminds me of the Windows logo. Can you try a few alternatives? Since window decoration is a big part of theming, how about: 1. Curtains/draperies 2. Paint can + brush (might collide with idea of art software, though) 3. Face mask A stamp with some colours on it, maybe stripes... how about using the fedora blue and the bright oranges etc. to compliment it? -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo icon set: preferences-system mockups
Ben Arnold napsal(a): How about the orange that is used in the recent document-properties lot? I would have thought that contrasted nicelyh with the blue in the monitor and gives a more universal association with that colour. I imagine, on the smaller versions, the screwdriver head might need to be a little darker or thicker for clarity but the rest of it looks good. Hmm, not a bad idea. I made new version (16x16 size included). Please, check it out. I would produce a mockup but there is no SVG with this thread :) ./b Well, I think there is some limit in this list for size of attachments and svgs are too big. If there is need I can e-mail it to you directly or post it on my wiki page. Also, what about the preferences-system-1 (the wrench with a screwdriver). Is it suitable for gnome-settings? Is it ok? Thanks, Martin Attachments: [1] preferences-system-2c16.png [2] preferences-system-2c24.png [3] preferences-system-2cL.png signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 10:40 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): It is useful to have it in the repository and see if we can get people to experiment and be creative with it. Do you want to maintain it in Fedora? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Agreed, but I also noticed on their homepage that QSimpleStyle is a part of gtk4qt project which aims to be for Gnome what is gtk-qt-engine for KDE - i.e. transition layer for kde to use gtk themes directly (and thus allowing Gnome users to have QT apps look like if they were GTK apps). I think it would be useful to have this package as well, and probably QSimpleStyle only as a subpackage. Please don't. These cross-toolkit theming implementations are pretty fragile and really not the way to go. The gtk-qt hack has been the source of a considerable fraction of the crash reports that are clogging up the GTK+ bugzilla. If you want a single cross-toolkit theme implementation, work on a toolkit-agnostic theming framework. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo icon set: preferences-system mockups
On 19/03/07, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Arnold napsal(a): How about the orange that is used in the recent document-properties lot? I would have thought that contrasted nicelyh with the blue in the monitor and gives a more universal association with that colour. I imagine, on the smaller versions, the screwdriver head might need to be a little darker or thicker for clarity but the rest of it looks good. Hmm, not a bad idea. I made new version (16x16 size included). Please, check it out. Those colours look great together, the screwdriver stands out so the focus isn't on the (bigger) monitor or PC. To me, the 16 version looks like it is system-display-config or something similar; might I suggest having the PC box included, maybe in front of the monitor, to show that it is the config for the whole machine? I would produce a mockup but there is no SVG with this thread :) ./b Well, I think there is some limit in this list for size of attachments and svgs are too big. If there is need I can e-mail it to you directly or post it on my wiki page. It could be useful on a personal wiki page; not only can everyone get to it but you can get the previous versions should any modifcations turn out worse! The limit is ~800kB IIRC,there has been the odd occaision where I have sent large attachments and they have been okay with the moderators. It's best on a wiki page, though. Also, what about the preferences-system-1 (the wrench with a screwdriver). Is it suitable for gnome-settings? Is it ok? I would think so, it depends on what settings that menu item actually configures (I use KDE so I can't remember!) If it is quite broad or random then that seems a good solution to me. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mascot
There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. I will think a bit about it and lay down a page in the wiki, but in the meantime, please come with initiatives, ideas, proposals or even metaphors or sketches. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2007-March/msg00053.html -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mascot
Nicu, This item was suggested before and did not proceed IMO because it lacked sponsorship. With the marketing team as sponsor this could be a chance for marketing and the artTeam to work together. :) I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo icon set: preferences-system mockups
Martin Sourada napsal(a): Ok, I will attach the svgs on my personal wiki page. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Hi, I attached pngs and svgs of my currently developed icons on my personal wiki page [1]. Please check it out. Any suggestions and/or feedback appreciated. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo icon set: preferences-system mockups
On 19/03/07, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made three mockups with whole machine. Please see attachment. Which one is the best? I prefer the one where the pc is on the right of the monitor [1]. Attachments: [1] preferences-system-2c16b.png [2] preferences-system-2c16c.png [3] preferences-system-2c16d.png +1 on the first; the third one is more consistent with cascading the objects but the ifrst has more clarity. I'd go for that. They look great :) Thanks for your efforts with Echo! On 19/03/07, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attached pngs and svgs of my currently developed icons on my personal wiki page [1]. Please check it out. Any suggestions and/or feedback appreciated. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada Perfect. I like to use my pages as a kind of portfolio which seems to be what you had in mind, too. It's agood sandbox for people to develop with. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); +1 I wouldn't say public domain though? Maybe just a plain CC attribution (attribute the Fedora Project) - derivs are OK. - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; +1 - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
O/H Máirín Duffy έγραψε: They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? +1 for a custom character. We can then use it to create lost of poses etc. I suggest to concentrate on the character and not the image. I'd think that a guy named Bob that looks like these http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join is better than a shiny thing like Firefox which is hard to adopt in various poses and contexts. Ideally it should: * Look daring/fearless (reflecting Fedora's vision for bleeding-edge) * At the same time friendly/earnest and potentially serious * Be simple enough to easily yield a stuffed puppet An example for the above is FreeBSD's daemon mascot: * http://www.freebsd.org/art.html And OpenBSD's: * http://www.openbsd.org/art/wanthead2.gif * http://www.openbsd.org/art/blowfish.jpg -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither. (Anonymous) -- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Me think character should be female. -- ¢D0 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
animation
Hi there I saw Fedora 7 default artwork and it was rely great, I couldn’t believe then from that start we will have something like that while I was looking work on progress for art work on fedora 7. While I look on that balloon I feel like it moves slowly and I was thinking how about to make an animated short clip for promoting Fedora 7. So what you think if we start an animated clip for Fedora 7 and to make more complete marketing campaign before lunching a new version of Fedora? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Firefox Start Page
All, I use the http://www.google.com/firefox page to perform searches using google and I considered if many others do the same. Assuming the page receives a lot of hits I thought why not consider a Fedora Firefox Start Page? I made a rough mock up of the idea for your consideration at my wiki home page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer Your thoughts? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Firefox Start Page
John Baer wrote: All, I use the http://www.google.com/firefox page to perform searches using google and I considered if many others do the same. Assuming the page receives a lot of hits I thought why not consider a Fedora Firefox Start Page? Do you realize the Firefox Start Page is put up by Google and Mozilla get *a lot* of money from Google to put it as default? I made a rough mock up of the idea for your consideration at my wiki home page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer Your thoughts? I am against putting free advertising in the distro for a commercial, unrelated entity. And personally, I do almost all my searches using the search box in Firefox, no need to visit google.com Right now the default home page in Firefox is an introduction useful for first time users: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/BrowserStartPage -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
John Baer wrote: Nicu, This item was suggested before and did not proceed IMO because it lacked sponsorship. With the marketing team as sponsor this could be a chance for marketing and the artTeam to work together. :) I think it lacked enthusiasm from us. We don't really need sponsoring, just our graphic tools and our communication channels. I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? Yes, I am very interested to work on this, just yesterday was not a good day for the task. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Máirín Duffy wrote: The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? My vision is like this: even if we and with an animal, it has to be anthropomorphic so we can use it in various situations: fix servers, kick Clippy's behind, racing the Daemon and other funny situations. Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ Those are also very popular on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red+hat+real+technology+lessonsearch=Search They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? I think so, but with a cuter character. From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. Also the official logo don't give me the artistic freedom to create something like this: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/otto_dueling.svg (old and ugly images, but I hope you get the idea) I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. This is fine. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. A problem I see: we as a team are spread around the world, so the characters/mascots, TV commercials and products we see every day are not exactly the same so we really need to use something like youtube. OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
