date:20080109


On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:49 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 A tab isn't a widget and not a possible focus location itself. Only the
 widget inside (usually a label) is.
 
Well, it's actually the notebook widget that is usually focused (my
bad)... I guess I could workaround it, so that if label instead of
notebook is the focused widget I would use a fallback theming (like for
GtkExpander).

 I disagree that it cannot be helped. Compare Clearlooks:
 http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/clearlooks-tabs.png
 
Yep, I installed the rawhide gtk2-engines to compare and I don't like
this styling used for tabs (in this case rather it's label's focus). 

  Just a side question, is your screen-shot from F9 or F8? I didn't tested
  the new Nodoka on F9 yet, so if there is some different implementation
  in gtk2 it could have slipped my attention.
 
 It is rawhide, but there is no difference between GTK+ in F8 and rawhide
 at this point.
 
Than I don't see why it does not work for you and works for me.

Martin


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Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 15:26 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:49 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
  A tab isn't a widget and not a possible focus location itself. Only the
  widget inside (usually a label) is.
  
 Well, it's actually the notebook widget that is usually focused (my
 bad)... I guess I could workaround it, so that if label instead of
 notebook is the focused widget I would use a fallback theming (like for
 GtkExpander).
 
Seems it won't be that easy. I made less restrictions as for what
widgets a fallback focus ring is used, so that none of the widgets that
could have focus cannot slip through without drawing it. But I am still
not able to replicate a case when the focus ring is drawn around tab
label, but not for the tab itself :( It seems there really are some
changes in rawhide... It seems like in F8 draw_focus is not invoked on
labels at all, even if their can_focus property is set to true... In
fact it is the tab focus that is being draw here, for the notebook
widget...


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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

On 1/3/08, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Valent Turkovic wrote:
  On 1/1/08, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Valent Turkovic wrote:
 
  Here are one audio review which also says artwork for Fedora 8 is lacking:
  http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-8-audio-review/
 
  and one random forum comment:
  Artwork quite poor compared to version 7.
  http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=43139#p43139
 
  I could point at a lot more reviews and magazine articles that saw it as
  an improvement. It's artwork, it's subjective, you can't please everyone
  and if you do you're probably doing something wrong. For every negative
  comment I've seen or heard about the F8 theme, I've seen 9 or 10
  positive ones.
 
 
  Did you listen to Linux Action Show podcast review in the link that is
  provided? They also mention icons and few other issues, but best
  listen to it if you can.
 
 Hi Valent!
 It seems like they were kind of vague on what exactly was wrong with the
 icons. I didn't quite understand if they complained the category icons
 in the Applications menu or the icons on the top panel. Since they
 mentioned Red Hat 9 it might have been the top panel ones (bluecurve),
 but I can't say for sure. Bugs should probably be filed on that.

To me it looks obvious as soon as you click gnome Applications menu.
Accessories, Education, Games... etc icons really look old school, but
not cool old skool :)

 Reviews are just reviews. I've seen a lot of positive ones about Fedora
 8 as well.
 - Andreas


Have you heard latest Linux Action Show (LAS)? I really agree with
them, not because I'm mindless LAS gnome but because they totally
resonate with my own opinion.
Please listen to it.

It comes down to mediocre  - design wise, but only on some element
because some parts are great but some are just not - and that makes
the difference even more obvious. Fedora is a great distro and has
really cutting edge technology and we feel a bit disappointed when
design doesn't follow that as it did with FC6 and F7 IMHO.

Valent.

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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)


Valent Turkovic wrote:

On 1/3/08, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Valent!
It seems like they were kind of vague on what exactly was wrong with the
icons. I didn't quite understand if they complained the category icons
in the Applications menu or the icons on the top panel. Since they
mentioned Red Hat 9 it might have been the top panel ones (bluecurve),
but I can't say for sure. Bugs should probably be filed on that.


To me it looks obvious as soon as you click gnome Applications menu.
Accessories, Education, Games... etc icons really look old school, but
not cool old skool :)


What are you talking about?

The gnome upstream default icon theme which is what F8 is using is a 
contemporary looking theme using the Tango guidelines.


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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

Valent Turkovic wrote:

Mairin please take the time and listen to the podcast, they have
really gone into details and especially you as the leader of artwork
team should listen to it.
If you have flash you can hear it here:
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-8-audio-review/
if you want to listen to if offline here you go:
http://www.archive.org/download/Fedora8ReviewlinuxActionShowEp067/Linuxactionshowep067-Fedora8Review.ogg
http://www.archive.org/download/Fedora8ReviewlinuxActionShowEp067/Linuxactionshowep067-Fedora8Review_64kb.mp3

Fromt he podcast:

I hate hate hate - I am going to underline the word hate, capitalize
it, and put little HTML bold tag. I don't have anything else to say
about it the... it lokos like someone took at loko at windows 200
and thought hmm this is nice but i like the way that windows xp is also
ugly, so im going to combine the ugliest features of both (laughter in
background) and I'm going to paint it with a blue brush, but I am going
to choose the ugliest sky blue color I can find. And that is what it
looks like to me. It drives me crazy. Because it's not a huge departure
from what we had, but they managed to modify it in slight ways that took
something that i thought was good looking and made it so bad I thought
it was horrible.

Thank you SO MUCH Valent. The feedback from this podcast is SO HELPFUL.
Not only that, but it really confirms to me that the 100+ hours of my
PERSONAL time (time I could have spent with my family or friends) that I
put into it was REALLY WORTH IT. Thank you so much Valent for bringing
this to my attention, I am now so motivated to put EVEN MORE TIME into
Fedora 9, because I now see how much my and this teams efforts are
APPRECIATED.

Thank you Valent, thank you so much for INSISTING that I listen to this
podcast.

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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

2008-01-09 Thread inode0

On Jan 9, 2008 10:13 AM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/1/08, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Valent Turkovic wrote:
   Did you listen to Linux Action Show podcast review in the link that is
   provided? They also mention icons and few other issues, but best
   listen to it if you can.
 
  Sorry, I didn't, I don't have much time these days. A summary of actual
  issues brought up would be helpful.
 

 I was away a few days... so the late reply.

 Mairin please take the time and listen to the podcast, they have
 really gone into details and especially you as the leader of artwork
 team should listen to it.

I would recommend not listening to it as hearing two people laugh
hysterically for 5 minutes because they don't like how it looks isn't
really anything but hurtful. These are the people who when reporting
on Matthew Szulik stepping down thought it was worth airtime to laugh
about his name since they didn't know how to pronounce it and made the
remarkably offensive comment When the going gets rough, the tough
make up some lame excuse about family health – MAN I sure hope it was
just an excuse, otherwise I sound like a huge jerk. SORRY.

If they had any points of substance those have been made elsewhere and
I'm sure everyone is aware of them by now.

John

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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

On 1/1/08, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Valent Turkovic wrote:
  Did you listen to Linux Action Show podcast review in the link that is
  provided? They also mention icons and few other issues, but best
  listen to it if you can.

 Sorry, I didn't, I don't have much time these days. A summary of actual
 issues brought up would be helpful.


I was away a few days... so the late reply.

Mairin please take the time and listen to the podcast, they have
really gone into details and especially you as the leader of artwork
team should listen to it.
If you have flash you can hear it here:
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-8-audio-review/
if you want to listen to if offline here you go:
http://www.archive.org/download/Fedora8ReviewlinuxActionShowEp067/Linuxactionshowep067-Fedora8Review.ogg
http://www.archive.org/download/Fedora8ReviewlinuxActionShowEp067/Linuxactionshowep067-Fedora8Review_64kb.mp3


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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)


Valent Turkovic wrote:


  

Reviews are just reviews. I've seen a lot of positive ones about Fedora
8 as well.
- Andreas




Have you heard latest Linux Action Show (LAS)? I really agree with
them, not because I'm mindless LAS gnome but because they totally
resonate with my own opinion.
Please listen to it.

It comes down to mediocre  - design wise, but only on some element
because some parts are great but some are just not - and that makes
the difference even more obvious. Fedora is a great distro and has
really cutting edge technology and we feel a bit disappointed when
design doesn't follow that as it did with FC6 and F7 IMHO.

Valent.
  
I have listened to that podcast since at least this past summer, and 
enjoy it, but the fact remains is that they are still just 2 reviewers 
with negative thoughts swimming in a lot of reviews of positive. 
However, I will agree with you Valent about one thing, and that is the 
default gnome-icons in the menu. They do look retro in not the best 
ways, and I hope that F9 can change the fact. It's something we can all 
work towards changing soon. We have the time, but not necessarily the 
manpower all the time. Lots to do for each release and it seems like 
only a handful of people do often. The art team tends to be small in 
terms of active workers, from my perspective, which is a shame.


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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


John Baer wrote:

All,

IMO the F8 artwork presents Fedora very favorably and it seems a waste
not to leverage this success in F9.

Does it make sense to change the theme every other release cycle and use
the off cycle to improve or tweak the current theme?
  

What do you actually mean when you say theme ?

Presenting the same question a differ way.

Would Fedora users be disappointed if the F9 came with an improved F8
theme (ie. same theme, new wallpaper)? 
  

Bring back FC6 wallpaper if you are recycling :)

Valent.

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


Steven Garrity wrote:

John Baer wrote:

Does it make sense to change the theme every other release cycle and
use the off cycle to improve or tweak the current theme?


This is a good point - it would be nice to see a somewhat common theme
getting more and more polished with each release. More of an evolution
than a complete redesign each time. That said, the last few themes have
been a bit like this.

Things that are easier to change, like the splash screens and wallpaper
can change more frequently and dramatically. Things that are more
challenging to redesign well, like Gtk and Metacity themes evolve more
slowly.

This reminds me of the 6 layers of buildings from Stewart Brand's
classic book, How Buildings Learn:
http://www.peterme.com/archives/0323.html

I would like to see a general visual theme for Fedora that can slowly
evolve and improve with each release, but still have enough wiggle-room
for each release to feel new and exciting.

I proposed a seasonal Spring/Fall theme set to coincide with the
time-based release schedule of Fedora back in November. I've been trying
to create a page for it on the wiki, but I'm having trouble getting my
account created (probably my own fault).

Quoting myself:

As the Fedora release schedule is now about as reliable as the coming
of spring and fall, it occurred to me that spring and fall might
serve as appropriate visual themes for alternating releases.

Both spring and fall (aka autumn) are nice natural visual
metaphors that have recognizable and (potentially) beautiful color
schemes associated with them. They are also both natural themes,
which can work well for desktop themes.

Perhaps we could adopt a spring visual theme for the odd-numbered
releases that fall in the spring, and a fall visual theme for the
even-numbered releases that fall in the, well, fall.

This would also provide a way to have a strong visual change between
releases, but still build on a larger theme that could grow more
refined over multiple releases.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-November/msg00099.html 



A theme like this would allow a common thread for all Fedora release 
visuals, but also a nice back-and-forth change for each release.


This sounds like a great idea. Can Fedora change colour palette? Sorry 
for my lack of knowledge if RedHat or Fedora board have forbidden using 
other colors but blue-gray and the palette around those colors.


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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

Exactly. Fedora should make some revolution, as it's one the most modern
distros (openSUSE provides nice GUI improvements, but below GUI, they really
suck).

openSUSE shows nice artwork progress - every version has new nice art,
exactly like Fedora does.
We made big improvment from FC5 until F8. We can't waste our current opinion
(about art).

2008/1/9, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
  Steven Garrity wrote:
  Please look these two screenshots:
  http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL
  http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL
 
  One is FC6 and other is F8.
 
  Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and
  too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it
 deserves.
 
  So slowing down design really sound bad to me.
 
  Valent.
 
 I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the
 difference is obvious, though subtle.

 As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in
 Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't
 you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best
 while you seem to just rant about how things would be better.

 Thanks,
 Martin

 References:
 [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots

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Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:04 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 But why the HDD doesn't lay : ?
 

I suppose you meant 'lie'? If so than because it's an action icon 
and it would look really strange among other action icons if it 
were lying.

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


Martin Sourada wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
  

Steven Garrity wrote:
Please look these two screenshots:
http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL
http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL

One is FC6 and other is F8.

Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and 
too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it deserves.


So slowing down design really sound bad to me.

Valent.



I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the
difference is obvious, though subtle. 


As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in
Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't
you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best
while you seem to just rant about how things would be better.
  
Because I have no actual creative talent but as I said in my email I 
have an critic eye and I have been volunteering as a critic for my 
friends and family for over 15 years - they are photographers, 
designers, 3d modelers and artists and I'm really respected for my 
constructive criticism.


I can't create a new gtk theme but I can say to you if one sucks or or 
if it rocks.


You can look for yourself for some ideas:
http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/gtk2/?order=9alltime=yes
http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=downpage=0xcontentmode=100

There are lots of great themes and designs.

I don't work for fedora ArtTeam but I'm a long time fedora desktop user 
and I would love to see some improvements in how fedora looks. I know 
that lot of people work hard and I really appreciate it, and I have seen 
what great designs they have done (except F8 IMHO). If you look at other 
other desktops - they are moving forward (look at OSX, Vista and some of 
other linux distros) and I as Fedora user feel stuck in design past :)


I know that lot of things you can't change because Gnome is responsible 
for that. Nobody has touched gnome panels  design wise since FC1, maybe 
I'm overstating it but it looks like that to me. New theme isn't needed 
just in present one do something with gnome panels. Why are gnome panels 
so plain?


So what can I do except to rant? Do you have some idea how else I can 
contribute? Because this is the best I can do (ps. I also contribute in 
reporting all the bugs I find to bugzilla).


Valent.

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Laith Juwaidah

On Wednesday 09 January 2008 21:01:56 Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
  Steven Garrity wrote:
  Please look these two screenshots:
  http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL
  http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL
 
  One is FC6 and other is F8.
 
  Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and
  too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it
  deserves.
 
  So slowing down design really sound bad to me.
 
  Valent.

 I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the
 difference is obvious, though subtle.

 As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in
 Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't
 you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best
 while you seem to just rant about how things would be better.
Cool, I like what we have now, I think that a rounded aqua would be awesome :)


 Thanks,
 Martin

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 [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots



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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Fedora shouldn't change main color! It should only push some freshness 
and live to the Linux desktop.

But fresh is a new colour :)
Come on you burned blue colour from all your monitors that if one more 
blue theme comes out it will look washed ot because the blue fosfor in 
monitors is burned out :)


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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:59 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 Máirín Duffy wrote:
  Laith Juwaidah wrote:

  Perhaps we could adopt a spring visual theme for the odd-numbered
  releases that fall in the spring, and a fall visual theme for the
  even-numbered releases that fall in the, well, fall.
  
  Could it also be that the colors match the season (green for spring 
  releases 
  and yellow/orange for fall ones?)?
  
 
  Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative
  feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than
  they should I think.
 
  ~m

 
 I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from blue 
 in latest release  - now its green, and it looks great! I would love to 
 see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be refreshing.
 
And confusing. Everyone in the linux world has Fedora associated with
blue colour. If we changed that there would surely be much more people
complaining than accepting the change. I believe everyone had opensuse
asociated with green already, so if they had blue themes before, it was
only a logical step to make it green, IMO.

Martin


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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

2008-01-09 Thread Nicu Buculei


Máirín Duffy wrote:
Thank you SO MUCH Valent. The feedback from this podcast is SO HELPFUL. 
Not only that, but it really confirms to me that the 100+ hours of my 
PERSONAL time (time I could have spent with my family or friends) that I 
put into it was REALLY WORTH IT. Thank you so much Valent for bringing 
this to my attention, I am now so motivated to put EVEN MORE TIME into 
Fedora 9, because I now see how much my and this teams efforts are 
APPRECIATED.


Mo, unfortunately my spoken English is really bad, otherwise I would 
record a podcast especially for you, saying how awesome the F8 artwork 
is and how we appreciate your work, don't listen to those guys.


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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


Máirín Duffy wrote:

Laith Juwaidah wrote:
  

Perhaps we could adopt a spring visual theme for the odd-numbered
releases that fall in the spring, and a fall visual theme for the
even-numbered releases that fall in the, well, fall.

Could it also be that the colors match the season (green for spring releases 
and yellow/orange for fall ones?)?



Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative
feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than
they should I think.

~m
  


I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from blue 
in latest release  - now its green, and it looks great! I would love to 
see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be refreshing.


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Re: [Echo] Some updates.

Hmmm. The blue arrows looks strange.

2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Mark a écrit :

 2008/1/7, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Camera set icon got more modifications. The inline is more lighter to
 allow a better transition between value to produce a more volumetric
 shape[1].

 Document-save got revisited to address the issue about the use of floppy
 disk. It now uses the hard disk drive based from drive-harddisk icon.[2]
 Document-save-as got the same treatment but smaller icons are not done yet.

 More new and modified icons to come soon.


 Luya

  Hey,

 i like the new camera icon more than the previous one but this time
 with the critic that it could use some more contrast. The shape is
 fine! just play a bit with some colors.

  Updated version available[1]
 http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/

  And for document-save.. if i see that icon in a application i would
 have never guessed that it stands for saving a document. That icon on
 it's own looks fine but just not for document-save. Perhaps it's
 better to use a floppy for the saving icon?

  Floppy disk has been replaced by hard disk drive for document-save. I
 made a naked version following Martin's suggestion.[2]

 Luya

 References

 [1]http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/
 [2]http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/


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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 How do I did it? I just used quick reply in Gmail.

You write your answer above the quotation. It's much easier to 
follow if you can read first what you are answering to and after
that the answer. Especially on the mail lists it's helpful, so
that people don't get easily lost in the thread.

http://catb.org/~esr//jargon/html/T/top-post.html

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork


Hi Valent,

Valent Turkovic wrote:

Máirín Duffy wrote:

Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative
feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than
they should I think.

~m
  


I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from blue 
in latest release  - now its green, and it looks great! I would love to 
see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be refreshing.


Everyone has their own personal tastes and opinions on the artwork. 
Unfortunately, only a very small percentage of those folks actually 
contribute to the artwork. If you would like to truly influence the 
artwork though, you will need to take a more active, participatory role 
on the art team.


This list is, for the most part, for the art team members to coordinate 
and discuss contributions to the artwork. While we do like hearing 
feedback from a variety of users, please understand that can cannot 
please everyone nor should it be expected that we cater to any 
particular piece of feedback we receive. In the past we have been asked 
to try colors other than blue and were met with a lot of negative 
feedback. I do not know if it is worth another try.


If you have a particular concept or design that you would like to mock 
up and share with us that does not use the color blue, I am sure we 
would all be interested in seeing it, but please do not expect that 
someone will do it for you just because you mentioned it here.


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Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)

Fedora 8 is great! It's impossible to say anything else than good words
about it.
Those gradient, curvy lines... Great! I even like the Mist iconset in F8,
which I didn't liked half year ago.

I wonder if Echo icon set would be polished and look good (I wouldn't say
anything about mixing styles *).

* Hey, Ubuntu mixes style too. We're not so bad (; .

2008/1/9, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Máirín Duffy wrote:
  Thank you SO MUCH Valent. The feedback from this podcast is SO HELPFUL.
  Not only that, but it really confirms to me that the 100+ hours of my
  PERSONAL time (time I could have spent with my family or friends) that I
  put into it was REALLY WORTH IT. Thank you so much Valent for bringing
  this to my attention, I am now so motivated to put EVEN MORE TIME into
  Fedora 9, because I now see how much my and this teams efforts are
  APPRECIATED.

 Mo, unfortunately my spoken English is really bad, otherwise I would
 record a podcast especially for you, saying how awesome the F8 artwork
 is and how we appreciate your work, don't listen to those guys.

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Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set


Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

But the HDD in all other themes is in horizontal position.
Echo will stay off.
No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder 
vertical.


2008/1/9, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:



On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:04 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 But why the HDD doesn't lay : ?


I suppose you meant 'lie'? If so than because it's an action icon
and it would look really strange among other action icons if it
were lying.

Martin

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Logos

Can I request logos SVG package (I think here's faster to obtain them)?
I lost them. Again :/ .

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 No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder
 vertical.


I only saw them in M$' OS.

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008/1/9, Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sticking with blues is what they call brand recognition and brand
 association. Yeah, some companies go through the trouble of changing
 their entire color scheme, but when they do they span across absolutely
 everything, not just some aspects.

 Valent Turkovic wrote:
  Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
  Fedora shouldn't change main color! It should only push some
  freshness and live to the Linux desktop.
  But fresh is a new colour :)
  Come on you burned blue colour from all your monitors that if one more
  blue theme comes out it will look washed ot because the blue fosfor in
  monitors is burned out :)
 
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If Fedora would change the logo (I even haven't thinked about it), then it
should change the colors.
Otherwise - colors shouldn't be touched.

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Re: Logos


Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

Can I request logos SVG package (I think here's faster to obtain them)?
I lost them. Again :/ .


You need to send this request to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set


Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:


No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning
folder vertical.


I only saw them in M$' OS.

Not looking hard enough.

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white?content=70299
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/newblack?content=72273

I imagine those are just two examples of many that are available with 
peoples abilities to make their own icon packs.


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Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set

2008/1/9, Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

 No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder
  vertical.
 

 I only saw them in M$' OS.

 Not looking hard enough.

 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white?content=70299
 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/newblack?content=72273

 I imagine those are just two examples of many that are available with
 peoples abilities to make their own icon packs.


Blah. Examples you shown are the ugliest icons I've ever seen. The even not
worth looking.

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