Re: F11 wood wallpaper

2009-04-01 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:

From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com

No comments about mine? =(
(http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355)


We are looking for artwork that relates to Fedora 11's codename, Leonidas. A 
lion being a king (as Leonidas was) or images depicting Greek scenery fit in 
with the release codename. I'm not sure how wood fits in, but maybe you have an 
idea?

Other than that we have an explicit policy to not ship wallpapers with the Fedora logo in them. This not only makes our wallpapers more generally useful, but also lessens the complications for folks who repackage Fedora under a different name (eg unofficial spins). 


Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use 
some blue, even if a secondary color.



I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora 
logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, 
actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood 
gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did 
you use a texture/pattern to create it?


It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not 
strictly vertical.


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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Alexander Smirnov
My favorite is four too. It's cool and simple.

2009/4/1 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com


 - Original Message 
  From: Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org

  http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion.jpg
  http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion2.jpg
  http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion3.jpg
  http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion4.jpg

 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too
 noisy for a boot screen. I agree with Martin that there should only be one
 progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered
 without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the
 mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is
 very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash)

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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 00:01:40 Charlie Brej wrote:
 Máirín Duffy wrote:
  Also, some of our splash ideas
  (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.
 png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion
  instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work.

 I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the
 theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best?

 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg
 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg
 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg
 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg

Personally I vote for 4th Lion. I like 3rd too but black spots look weird. 
Maybe without lines layer a black spot it will be better, now it's too 
complicated for splash/KDM background. I can image transition from this 
background to desktop wallpaper with lion. But there's still one issue - once 
I use this as KDM/KSplash, we need more backgrounds distributed (maybe one 
resolution is enough for such simple background even I don't have to deal with 
wide/normal version)...

Could you publish it somewhere?

And as Martin pointed out - only one progress bar and match it's color with 
background.

Thanks all involved for this wonderful work!

Jaroslav  

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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:

From: Charlie Brej



http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg


4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. 


I'm also going for 4, it would be easier to make a GRUB splash matching. 
And when the boot process end and GDM kick is, the lion will just pop-up 
over the already existing background, for a good effect, methinks.



I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the 
bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity 
bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is 
heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they 
kind of clash)


Yup, one progress bar and maybe larger. I think it would be tiresome 
(and redundant) to watch two bars progressing at the same time.


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Re: Art team feature

2009-04-01 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga

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| Tell us about Fedora.
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Fedora is all participation from contributors, creating projects that 
will benefit to Free and Open Source community
and innovations. It is about blending both commercial and community into 
one to provide an operating system which is

both cutter edge and stable.

| Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal 
training? Who or what influenced you to get involved?

|
I have recently completed training in Graphic Design. I started to get 
involved as self-taught designer where I worked on some icons like 
echo-icon-theme and wallpaper. Due to school, I mostly gave feedback and 
suggestion until recently.


| What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux 
groups you've contributed artwork to?

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Only Fedora and its sub-projects..

| Can you take us through the process from development to finalization 
of artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community 
contribute also?

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Nicu has addressed that question.
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| What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs?
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Inkscape which I found far better than Adobe Illustrator product,
Gimp because it provides features not found on Adobe Photoshop like 
Smart Sharper and less RAM hungry,

Scribus with is colour circle
Blender for being light in space and freely available so designers can 
easily grasp 3D concept

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| Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux 
graphics software?

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Gimp, support of group layers, CMYK process once GEGL will mature, 
non-destructive method support
Inkscape, better input from stylus, better support for file conversion 
from Adobe Illustrator file
Scribus, better import/edit/export PDF support, InDesign file, and 
better layout.

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| As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or 
development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the 
future of Fedora?

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More active participations within and outside the team. The latter is 
important because there are potential designers are
shy to express due to language barrier. In a case of echo-icon-theme, 
having feedback and beter documentation are crucial. It is a challenge 
to work on tremendous project but it can be done.

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| There are a lot of new distros popping up, seemingly every day.  Any 
advice you can give them on the graphics art side of it?

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|
Nicu provided a good summary.

| If someone wanted to get involved with Fedora artwork, where would 
they go?

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In addition of joining Artwork mail-list, look for task to do on 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService

and wait for review.
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| Anything else you'd like to add?
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Not at all.


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Re: Art team feature

2009-04-01 Thread Jayme Ayres
I think you answered all questions fully, explained very well how the Fedora
Artwork and philosophy of Project Fedora works.
Congratulations Nicu!

Jayme Ayres

2009/4/1 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro

 Nicu Buculei wrote:

 Bill DeJohn wrote:

   My name is Bill DeJohn ( Dadster ).  I am co-founder of Linux Graphics
 Users forum.  We have a monthly article where we feature a distros art team.
  http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?board=48.0

 [...]


 Questionnaire.


 I'll go first... hope others will jump in and complete me.


 Nobody else stepping up for the interview? Mo, Martin, Tatica, anyone?


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Re: Art team feature

2009-04-01 Thread María Leandro
Aloha sorry the late reply

Hello to you, I'm María Gracia Leandro but all the members know me as
tatica. I'm a fedora ambassador from Venezuela and part of my work is
to convert cute things into functional things. I'm working right now
in several projects in Venezuela, LatinAmerica and some International
Stuff, you can read a resume here [0]... now the questionnaire.



 Questionnaire.

 Tell us about Fedora.

Fedora for me is a great collaborative network who support a learning
and development group of interested people and a huge platform to take
a chance of software freedom. We are an example of professionalism and
friendship because we have a clearly and organized group of work
(developers, artist, press, sponsors and lot more) but we are also a
family. It's usual to se an IRC channel talking about the new
wallpaper and also see some guys talking about their weekends. We
offer an awesome Software but also a great mentored and helpful group.
We are fedora


 Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal training?
 Who or what influenced you to get involved?


This is crazy... I got involved into the free software art looking
videos on youtube of privative tools I lean all by myself, reading
guides, looking videos, downloading artwork and asking a lot. Fedora
came to me when I most need it. I'm not a pro user, but I love to
desing... so fedora is a really stable an always first with software
issues. I always have the newest and the stable on my fedora desktop
(and now laptop :D )


 What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux
 groups you've contributed artwork to?

Always... I use fedora because I love it, and I spead the fedora
word but I don't get too much pression on my new users to be a
fedora one. I always tell to them that they should use GN/Linux or
*nix based because is good for them. They will be able to learn, share
and use things that possibly they were afraid or they think that those
are tool for professionals.

I help with a lot of communities... some are:

Venezuela: Fedora-Venezuela, Ubuntu-Venezuela, Gentoo-Venezuela,
UNEFA-Lug, Bolivar-LUG, nelug, velug, and the main organization of
Venezuela FLISoL (LatinAmerican Festival of feee software instalation
[1] )

International: Gimp-Spanish, Inkscape-Spanish, Blender-Spanish, Also
I'm on the translation team for synfig and support some cliparts for
several applications.

I ussualy help with some conferences like: Flisol, CNSL (National
Congress of Free Software), SLUD (Universidad Distrital Linux Week)
and more...

And lot of more things :D

 Can you take us through the process from development to finalization of
 artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community contribute
 also?

Yes. I have never been involved directly on the release artwork, but I
do help with some issues. A final artwork is not just a cute wallpaper
and some icons and windows... You need banners (in a lot of
languages), need news, posters, spins covers and lot of stuff. We all
give something to the project... and that's the idea of being a
community



 What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs?

jooo... this is a hard one. Should be Gimp, Inkscape and Blender
but I also like MakeHuman, SweetHome and synfig... It depends of the
use.


 Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux
 graphics software?

This is not a dream... it's happening. Al the changes I'd like to see
are getting in progress because I'm not just a user. in fact, I'm not
a really designer, I'm a programmer... so if I want to see something
better on X application I program or ask the community to do it. They
are also a community like the fedora one, and they take suggestions
and advices... so the thing is not thing on changes... is made them.



 As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or
 development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the future of
 Fedora?

Is the same question. We are working on have something that our users
love. We have a lot of new ideas in progress and if anyone wants to
say something to the artwork team is invited to colaborate... In any
language! :D


 There are a lot of new distros popping up, seemingly every day.  Any advice
 you can give them on the graphics art side of it?

Always think in the simplicity and joy... Almost all users want a cool
and easy distro, and that what they should have.


 If someone wanted to get involved with Fedora artwork, where would they go?

To the fedora project main site we have a great website and a lot
of local communities to help and mentor anyone who wants to get
involved... [2]


 Anything else you'd like to add?

We are free to choose distros... we are free to ask changes... we are
free to collaborate with code and art... we are in a new free world
and fedora have the tools to make it happen... so, what are you
waiting for?

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica
[1] 

Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi Samuele,

- Original Message 

 From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com
 To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM
 Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King
 
 Hi all
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
 
 This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 
 'cause 
 I think they give some light and a good design element to the image.
 I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers 
 visibility of the other elements.

This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected?
 
 Then:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg
 
 This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think 
 mixing 
 Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, 
 but 
 this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best.

These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just 
the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both 
having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more 
abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and 
I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the 
splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most 
thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background.

 In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen.

Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts?
 
 About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try 
 something.

Cool

~m



  

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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Samuele Storari
Yes, maybe your right.

I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation 
and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic.
So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D

Samuele

- Original Message -
From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com
To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 3:40:31 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern 
/ Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King


Hi Samuele,

- Original Message 

 From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com
 To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM
 Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King
 
 Hi all
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
 
 This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 
 'cause 
 I think they give some light and a good design element to the image.
 I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers 
 visibility of the other elements.

This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected?
 
 Then:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg
 
 This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think 
 mixing 
 Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, 
 but 
 this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best.

These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just 
the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both 
having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more 
abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and 
I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the 
splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most 
thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background.

 In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen.

Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts?
 
 About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try 
 something.

Cool

~m



  

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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-01 Thread Charlie Brej

Samuele Storari wrote:

Yes, maybe your right.

I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation 
and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic.
So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D


Could you use the linked image [1] as the rust layer? This would make it easy to 
make the desktop repeat as the left and right edges are matched.


[1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/rust3.png

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Re: F11 wood wallpaper

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Kole

Nicu Buculei wrote:

Máirín Duffy wrote:

From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com

No comments about mine? =(
(http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355) 



We are looking for artwork that relates to Fedora 11's codename, 
Leonidas. A lion being a king (as Leonidas was) or images depicting 
Greek scenery fit in with the release codename. I'm not sure how wood 
fits in, but maybe you have an idea?


Other than that we have an explicit policy to not ship wallpapers 
with the Fedora logo in them. This not only makes our wallpapers more 
generally useful, but also lessens the complications for folks who 
repackage Fedora under a different name (eg unofficial spins). 


Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use 
some blue, even if a secondary color.

No sorry, blue would look awful with brown.
It dont have to be a standard wallpaper, like the solar is now, but more 
like the stone bird and the ladybugs :)


I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the 
Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own 
wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. 
:) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the 
lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it?


It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not 
strictly vertical.





No sorry, it wont look good with that too.
But if you want to try,
Ill upload the .xcf to my website.
Link comes soon.

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Re: F11 wood wallpaper

2009-04-01 Thread Máirín Duffy





- Original Message 
 From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com

  I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the 
  Fedora 
 logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, 
 actually, 
 if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives 
 the 
 wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a 
 texture/pattern to create it?
  
  It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly 
 vertical.
  
 
 
 No sorry, it wont look good with that too.
 But if you want to try,
 Ill upload the .xcf to my website.
 Link comes soon.

What do you man? It wouldn't look good at an angle? Or it wouldn't look good 
without the Fedora logo?

Was wondering about the answer to my question about if you used a 
texture/pattern to create it. It seems you missed it?

~m



  

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Re: F11 wood wallpaper

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Kole

Máirín Duffy wrote:




- Original Message 
  

From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com



  
I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora 

logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, 
if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the 
wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a 
texture/pattern to create it?

It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly 
  

vertical.

No sorry, it wont look good with that too.

But if you want to try,
Ill upload the .xcf to my website.
Link comes soon.



What do you man? It wouldn't look good at an angle? Or it wouldn't look good 
without the Fedora logo?

Was wondering about the answer to my question about if you used a 
texture/pattern to create it. It seems you missed it?

~m


  

I mean when it has an angle.
Yeah, it was made with a pattern and i made it myself.
Of course.

Regards,
Thomas Kole

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Re: F11 wood wallpaper

2009-04-01 Thread Justin Fuhrer

Thomas Kole wrote:

[snipped]

 Nicu Buculei wrote:
Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use 
some blue, even if a secondary color.



No sorry, blue would look awful with brown.


[snipped]

Actually, it appears that someone else thought blue would've been fine:
http://oliuss.deviantart.com/art/Hardwood-Night-88299626?offset=10
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1649/welcomebackgroundbg.jpg

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