Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 00:03:14 Charlie Brej wrote:
 Charlie Brej wrote:
  In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and
  have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted.

 Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the
 background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now
 which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll
 get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of
 each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them
 together and ripple their actions.

Hi Charlie,
is it publicly available somewhere? I'd like to match it with KDM and KSplashX 
theme and it's time to start working on it :) Especially progress bar 
animation.

Thanks
Jaroslav
 

 [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo1.png
 [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo2.png
 [3] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo_progress.gif

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-26 Thread Charlie Brej

Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

On Tuesday 17 March 2009 00:03:14 Charlie Brej wrote:

Charlie Brej wrote:

In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and
have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted.

Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the
background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now
which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll
get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of
each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them
together and ripple their actions.


Hi Charlie,
is it publicly available somewhere? I'd like to match it with KDM and KSplashX 
theme and it's time to start working on it :) Especially progress bar 
animation.




Yeah, I should have mentioned here too the mail to the plymouth list. The tar[2] 
contains all the progress bar elements. If you want a hand then I can clump a 
few of them together to make the progress bar in different stages.




[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/plymouth/2009-March/73.html
[2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leonidas.tar.gz

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-16 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:


Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.


I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of
color gradients needed) would work OK...


The constraint with GRUB is 14 colors (16 if counting also black and 
white), there is no way we can use a photorealistic image with that. 
Probably a blue background and a drawing of some birds or clouds.


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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-16 Thread Charlie Brej

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:

Paul W. Frields wrote:

* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics

This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in
Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
(the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.


Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki.
That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar
theme was produced for Plymouth.  Never fails to get a whistle or a
cool! out of someone who's seen it...

/me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape...


Sorry for the late reply.

So currently the plugins are rather complicated to create as there are plenty of 
holes to fall down. I could write a few words but what I think would be better 
atm is to work it from the other side (i.e. make plugins really easy to make).


What I would like to do is to make a customisable plugin which has an 
interprited script which allows very easy changes of what it does. The script 
specifies the image locations and what movements the images take every frame. 
Should be simple enough that non-programmers can do it. Over Christmas I did get 
somewhere towards this but this wont be complete for a few months.


In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and have the 
progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. The birds flying 
away is easy to do (like [2]) but I will wait till the background settles down 
and there is a common demand for something in particular (send suggestions and 
if people agree I will put it in).




[1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7NqQ30KfAo#t=6m28s

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-16 Thread Charlie Brej

Charlie Brej wrote:
In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and 
have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. 


Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the background 
in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now which I 
personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll get the 
progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of each segment 
progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them together and 
ripple their actions.



[1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo1.png
[2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo2.png
[3] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo_progress.gif

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-13 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:

Hi all you fabulous Artists and Designers,

I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art.

BACKGROUNDS:

I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds,
and F10 users can test it now if they want:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm

I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
(And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
the sky sometimes.)  Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?


I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was
pushed to planet)


OTHER ART:

According to the F11 schedule:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks

...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow.  Then they're
packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
Preview Release.

The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
includes:

* GNOME splash screen


Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I
believe in the end someone made an image.


* KDE splash screen


For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
splash was produced.


* GNOME screensaver lock dialog


Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to
obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say
when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that).


* Fullscreen splash for syslinux
* Square splash for anaconda and firstboot
* Anaconda horizontal header
* Firstboot vertical header
* Fullscreen grub splash


Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably
address them after the wallpaper is in a final state.

Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.


* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics


This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in
Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
(the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.


* kdm login screen theme


Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here.


Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
derivations?


Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days.

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-13 Thread Paolo Leoni
2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro


  * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics


 This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in
 Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
 (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.


It could be good to add the animation of birds that flyies in the sky while
the progress bar is going...

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-13 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Paul W. Frields wrote:
 I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
 (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
 problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
 the sky sometimes.)  Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
 whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
 Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?

 I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was
 pushed to planet)

Excellent!

It would probably be good to also indicate what kind of feedback the
Artwork team wants.  Any specifics you're interested in, other than I
like it or I don't like it?

 OTHER ART:

 According to the F11 schedule:
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks

 ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
 now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow.  Then they're
 packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
 Preview Release.

 The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
 includes:

 * GNOME splash screen

 Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I
 believe in the end someone made an image.

 * KDE splash screen

 For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
 splash was produced.

 * GNOME screensaver lock dialog

 Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to
 obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say
 when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that).

Right, this can probably be discontinued when that happens.  I think
there's a few Desktop guys lurking here, maybe they can let us know
their plans

 * Fullscreen splash for syslinux
 * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot
 * Anaconda horizontal header
 * Firstboot vertical header
 * Fullscreen grub splash

 Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably
 address them after the wallpaper is in a final state.

Does this mean the dates, as they stand, should be changed to a later
target?  There's no reason for anyone like me to bother the team if
you guys really don't want to deal with these pieces until later in
the process.

If that's the case, setting a date would be a big help.  Do you guys
want to have these completed for absolute code freeze, for the Preview
Release?

 Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
 the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.

I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of
color gradients needed) would work OK...

 * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics

 This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in
 Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
 (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.

Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki.
That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar
theme was produced for Plymouth.  Never fails to get a whistle or a
cool! out of someone who's seen it...

/me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape...

 * kdm login screen theme

 Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here.

Do we need anyone to notify them?  John and I can help, if so.

 Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
 derivations?

 Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days.

Sure.  Head starts are good, which is why I wanted to bring it up, so
as not to surprise anyone late in the process!  :-)

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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Paul W. Frields wrote:
  * KDE splash screen
 
 For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
 splash was produced.
 
I've been talking about this one with Mo and jreznik (the guy doing all
the artwork work for KDE) over IRC. Mo produced some sample graphics, I
don't remember the address though (I could find it in Rawhide, but I'm
currently in F10). Máirín, can you post the link here?

  * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
 
 This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in
 Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
 (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
 
Mo thinks that something simpler would be better and I agree with her on
this one. The F10 Plymouth is over too flashy.

Martin


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Re: Banners and splashes

2009-03-13 Thread Máirín Duffy

- Original Message 

 From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com
 On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
  Paul W. Frields wrote:
   * KDE splash screen
  
  For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
  splash was produced.
  
 I've been talking about this one with Mo and jreznik (the guy doing all
 the artwork work for KDE) over IRC. Mo produced some sample graphics, I
 don't remember the address though (I could find it in Rawhide, but I'm
 currently in F10). Máirín, can you post the link here?

Sure thing. These are very rough, we want the bars to be a lot closer to the 
bottom of the screen. Hopefully I'll have time to poke at these this weekend 
but if anyone else has some time please feel free:

http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/

(sorry I didn't get a chance to upload them to the wiki, we were having a 
discussion and it was quicker for me to post them to fedorapeople.org at the 
time)

~m



  

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Banners and splashes

2009-03-12 Thread Paul W. Frields
Hi all you fabulous Artists and Designers,

I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art.

BACKGROUNDS:

I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds,
and F10 users can test it now if they want:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm

I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
(And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
the sky sometimes.)  Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?


OTHER ART:

According to the F11 schedule:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks

...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow.  Then they're
packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
Preview Release.

The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
includes:

* GNOME splash screen
* KDE splash screen
* Fullscreen splash for syslinux
* GNOME screensaver lock dialog
* Square splash for anaconda and firstboot
* Anaconda horizontal header
* Firstboot vertical header
* Fullscreen grub splash
* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
* kdm login screen theme

Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
derivations?

* * *

BTW, the item of creating the Beta Website Banner is listed as to be
completed by March 20, and given the previous thread on this list, it
looks like that's well underway.  Superb!  I'm looking forward to
another incredibly beautiful release thanks to the talent and hard
work you guys apply to each new Fedora.

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