Re: [fedora-india] CfP for GNUnify10 is now OPEN
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:01 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: http://gnunify.in/register/speaker is the URL to visit. Would anyone like to take the lead in doing up a page on the wiki first so that it becomes easier to see the Fedora centric talks that are being proposed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gnunify_2010 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/54 Thank you Susmit (although I'd have preferred someone other than you to be doing it). So, who is going to lead this and, be accountable for the Fedora presence ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote: So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. I have two concerns about the lines above. One, the notion of Fedora folks from outside having to talk to a crowd of students (which I interpret as in-house experts aren't considered glamorous) and, two, the fact that since the last time, barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, there haven't been newer faces coming up from NIT-Durgapur. Think that through. If Kushal did make an impact at all, why did it have to be just 3 people in, I assume a batch of 200 ? If you have an idea why this is so, including the now-established notion of cool hai, I'd be interested in hearing. Personally, I am all for participation in college events to raise awareness. But, we have to accept a couple of things: * awareness is a good measure in institutions which have no FOSS culture * participation requires someone to volunteer their time * participation costs money In other to provide a reasonable justification for the last two, there needs to be a follow-through of the first item. Awareness - participation + contribution. Along the lines of what I did ask Shreyank in December - where are the folks from Roshan's batch and, other batches ? Respecting his decision, would it now be possible for a Fedora contributor to speak there? I haven't read about anyone volunteering to be at Mukti and requesting sponsorship to travel. If there is anyone interested, now would be a time to use the ticket on fedorahosted.org/fedora-india. If the budget permits, it would be easy to sponsor someone to visit Durgapur, we'd need a ticket on the trac, an idea of what the presence would be for and, the estimated cost of making that happen. As regards media, I'd suggest that you sell them. The monies should come of some use. Pressing media in bulk to give away does not seem to have the same effect. The other option I can think of is getting in touch with LFY as a partner of some sort at the event where they sponsor media. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, You forgot Rangeen. Indeed I did and, my apologies to Rangeen on that score. When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 times what Shreyank or I get!!). I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation in a way that nothing can counter. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:25 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Can you please open a ticket here? It will be easier to track. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ and, the FAQ is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Event_Questions -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] CfP for GNUnify10 is now OPEN
http://gnunify.in/register/speaker is the URL to visit. Would anyone like to take the lead in doing up a page on the wiki first so that it becomes easier to see the Fedora centric talks that are being proposed ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page?
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Do we need to rethink? http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippetutm_content=mofo1utm_campaign=s100509 The Time Available part certainly gives some areas for thought. Thanks for pushing the URL. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh singh.rosha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how the presence last year was helpful ? 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session How about you doing this yourself ? 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.. The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Interesting mashup of panel talks. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Event expenses and reimbursements
Hi, I made a small change [0] to the Event Specific FAQ that I maintain. This is needed to enable me to process the expenses in accordance with the guidelines I receive. [1] is a link to the FAQs that are relevant. /sankarshan [0] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sankarshan/Event_Questionsdiff=143494oldid=138598 [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan#Frequently_Asked_Questions -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/23 sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com No. However, it is expected that Ambassadors will involve themselves in other aspects of The Fedora Project as well. Packaging can be one such. Is it required for an ambassador to choose among the different ways of contributing from say, this page http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora ? I am not saying that it be made mandatory to choose such a stream of contribution upfront, but having that in the formal process will help others identify who is good at what at a later stage too. The last time this was proposed, FAmSCo had reservations accepting it. But, it could be placed again with the current FAmSCo as a proposal. http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2009/12/11/studentcontributorambassador/ has my take on it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone part of the packaging team can do the review, I believe. Sponsors are the people who give the final approval. So, is everyone who is 'permitted' do undertake a review, actually doing reviews ? While we are building up newer participants, the existing ones have the duty to be doing their bits. | How can we make the newcomers feel that they are being welcome and, | provide them with the feedback loop that makes them sustaining | contributors ? \-- Raise the flag, immediately! If newcomers are stuck or need help, please don't hesitate to ping on IRC (#fedora-india), or simply write to this list. Seriously, we are least bothered about English or grammar. Which brings forth a different question - have we unconsciously or, consciously given off the impression that newcomers with their questions are unwelcome ? If we have, that attitude needs to be worked upon. Let us put our heads together and work this out. We now have lots of active folks who are doing stellar work - this is a good time to aim higher. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: I see several review requests are being untouched/unapproved for months. Can you please push across the URLs to the ones you noticed ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: I see several review requests are being untouched/unapproved for months. Thank you for posting the BZ# entries in your other mail. Yes , i do agree that reviewing packages and sponsoring them is a time consuming and tiresome work :-) . There should be a queue or some thing or some limit on time how long the packagers have to wait for a sponsor . The above should be put to the Packaging SIG to work out a solution. If this is put forward in the form of a proposal, it might expedite discussion Potential contributors from india can be asked to file a ticket or something so that new review requests can be tracked and approved ASAP (yes, we can ask them to send an email to the list asking for sponsor/review) . Is there any way to identify contributors from india and _automatically_ add fedora-india to CC list of their review requests? I'd suggest a simpler solution - meet over IRC (#fedora-india) every 10/15 days so that existing or, new review requests can be given a look-see. We do not have too many reviewers but this form of collaborative working might see is increasing our reviewer and packager base. It would need someone to take a lead in arranging the meetings and, ensuring that there are a couple of the reviewers available for a discussion. Keeping the logs would be helpful too. If you are looking for tooling to create a list of existing/new review requests from folks from India, it should perhaps be trivial to use the data in FAS and, do a look-up on BZ to produce a simple report. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote: Jason Tibbits (tibbs|h) is one of the reviewers for Emacs add-ons, I believe. But, he said his work queue was full. How can we get going with [1] unofficial reviews and, [2] official reviews ? Do we have a good number of folks who are capable of [2] ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/22/2009 03:57 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: We can do what? Oops. somehow quoted an entirely irrelevant portion of your message :) We can call the list whatever you like. indian-community sounds as good as any to me. Alright. Great. Since the list is copied on these discussions, they can suggest alternative/better names for the list as well. indian-community sounds good to me. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote: --- On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: | - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year \-- Ticket raised: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/48 Aren't e-mails sent to fedora-india mailing lists as tickets are issued, or updated? An useful URL is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/Organization. I had earlier posted the announcement notice of GNUnify. It would be nice if we could spend some time on the following: * plan on what to do at GNUnify * plan on what aspects of GNUnify can be a build-up to a FUDCon For an event like FUDCon, a minimum of 4 months notice needs to be in place. This generally allows speakers, participants and, the organizers to iron out every wrinkle that one can foresee. Circling back to GNUnify. Since the dates are out, it would be a good time to figure out who are planning to attend the event from outside of Pune and, what they want to do. This would also help in making budget decisions around GNUnify. Historically, the GNUnify organizers have been agreeable towards providing facilities to conduct our own thing as long as there are no extra-ordinary demands. Since we are going to be at GNUnify, it would be good to follow the usual process: * having an owner for the event presence * having a listing on the Events page * having a wiki page to plan out the possible speakers/sessions On the last point, it would be wonderful to have a day long effort for students and new faces in FOSS, from various Fedora folks covering topics like: * Quick overview of FOSS * Importance of Community and Communication (a quick demonstration of IRC and such) * Creating FAS accounts, learning about Planet Fedora * RPM Packaging basics (all participants make one package at least) * Obtaining and building from sources (build tools and environments) * Using Bugzilla (how to file a bug/request) * Debugging and Testing (how to debug, test a patch) This year, I have repeatedly pointed out two things - first, we are being unable to take steps beyond installation fests and, second, we are unable to tap the existing talent of the participants and make substantial headway into various parts of The Fedora Project. Both will happen given enough time, but we need to also put the plans into action that will enable these to become reality. A reminder to all those who contributed to the FOSS.IN retrospective thread or, attended the event - please do take some time to look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/fossin09_feedback It is indeed good that we had a discussion on the list, distilling them into a set of actions would be excellent. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: Quick overview: - Arun almost took a mini tut for packaging ;) - vermapratyush introduced himself - jdk2588 and skbohra gave a few details about the lug bikaner site, and their planned release party - ashwin_man gave his views on F12 (he has some troubleshooting to do) - franciscod gave a quick roundup of his F12 feedback and his recent activities - queries on packaging were cleared (mbuf, hiemanshu,franciscod, zer0c00l) - a brief discussion on upcoming GNUnify - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year - hiemanshu brought the packaging week some focus (its planned on #fedora-classroom) Thank you. The logs were most helpful in the response later in the thread. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST?
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting on #fedora at Freenode. Ankur, thanks for leading this. Agenda: - New folks on the team can introduce themselves With respect to the above, is it possible to include an item which would allow the first time packagers or, those who have packages under review (but pending for long) to allow others to help them out ? - Questions/queries to be discussed. - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) ) I'd request that this be undertaken separately. [snip] I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500 copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments? Would you like to elaborate on the above please ? What is the need to mass produce media ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I would like to get some feedback from Fedora contributors who attended the event on what went well and what we could improve for the next year. Following the discussion in this thread (thanks to all those who participated), I tabulated the discussion at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/fossin09_feedback. Please feel free to add/modify my interpretation of your feedback if you feel that is required. Additionally, also try and identify action points that we can put as ToComplete in the coming year. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Parin Sharma wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Parin Sharma parin.sha...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry for this !! This is not spam actually!! It is *unsolicited mail*. Next time, please be wary of adding your address book to such services. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] [ANN] If you are planning to ...
* organize an Event * look for DVDs * looking for presentations * request sponsorship and so forth, you might want to read up https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Questions which is a General FAQ and, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Event_Questions which is a bit more specific aimed at events. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 27, Issue 29
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:02 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Admins of Fedora-India list, This is an open request to setup a mailman content filter to block Re: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest mails. We already have it at ambassadors mailling list, so it is highly possible. Thank you for noticing this and exhorting to take action. This has been done. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 27, Issue 29
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:05 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for noticing this and exhorting to take action. This has been done. I think we need to tune the reg-exp a bit. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-December/msg00014.html Darn ! I'll look into this tomorrow. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] [Nag mail] For those who attended FOSS.IN
Can you please post the links to your relevant blog entries to the list ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Nag mail : Participants in The Fedora Project from India
Hi, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Contributors_In_India#Indian_Fedora_Contributors : please update if * your name is not there * you know someone whose name is not there (get them to update) * your role has changed Those who mention their role as 'Package Maintainer' is it possible to create a hyperlink to a query that would give a listing of the packages ? /sankarshan -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] A report on FOSS GN 09 event at Engineering College Bikaner(Rajasthan)
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:47 PM, shreekant bohra skbohra...@gmail.com wrote: I am Shree Kant Bohra, a member of the team which organized a four day FOSS event at Engineerng College Bikaner during 28-31st October 2009. I would like to thank Fedora India Community for providing guidance and goodies for the event and in particular I would like to thank Rahul Sundaram, Sankarsan and Susmit who despite of lack of proper pre planning of the event managed to provide us with total support. We had talk on F12 features, SELinux and a Fedora Installfest during the FOSS event. We have compiled a report of the event and would like to share it with others. Thank you for the report. It would be interesting to learn about what are the plans for the future and, whether post the event we would be able to observe an increase in the number of participants from your institute to Free and Open Source Software. In short, what's next ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] A report on FOSS GN 09 event at Engineering College Bikaner(Rajasthan)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:26 AM, shreekant bohra skbohra...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we too are excited about it, what next ? After the FOSS event the awareness about FOSS has increased exponentially in our college. More and more students are turning towards FOSS. We setup a LUG on the closing day and 100 students have registered themselves as the member. As a part of LUG we have organized 3 fedora installfest after the event , in different hostels of the college, one of the installfest was organized in Girls hostel, managed totally by girls, member of LUG. Our Next step is to turn people towards development, and convert them into contributors, for this we are soon going to organize workshops and start small open source projects in which students can take part. I'd suggest that you try and take help from folks on #fedora-india as much as possible. There are a lot of small project ideas which have immediate use and, can help build confidence in those desiring to get their feet wet in the area of contributing. As quickly as we can move from having installfests into the area of having regular and scheduled contribution-centric workouts, the more successful would be your investment of time and energy. Fix up a date on which you'd like to have folks from the institute on the IRC, let the list know and, we can engage in a nice conversation. As a effect of FOSS GN 09, some of the participants from other colleges around Bikaner , are also organizing FOSS events and we are helping them out in spreading the FOSS love, Govt Engineering College Jhalawar, Jodhpur Engineering College and Research Centre and Jodhpur Institute of Engineering and Technology students have contacted us and are planning FOSS event. This is indeed good to hear. So we have just ignited the FOSS Fire and determined convert it into big flame, Hail FOSS. As a side note, around 20 members of LUGB are attending FOSS.IN event at Bangalore , the event will surely help them understand FOSS more closely. For those who would be interested, there are activities around Fedora that are being coordinated by Kushal, Rahul and Susmit (kushal, mether and susmit on IRC). Please get in touch. Having in-person meetings to kickstart activities is a great thing to happen. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Hi,Its Jaideep
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Shreyank Gupta shreya...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 11/09/2009 09:23 PM, jaideep k wrote: Hi Myself Jaideep Khandelwal final year student of I.T @ Engineering College Bikaner Rajasthan . I am a FOSS lover , a RHCSS and my other field of interests are Networking, Database,LAMP. I am keen in programming with python,. I love to change People from DOS to FOSS and help people around me to as when I am available. I like to travel and explore new places . I would give as much as I can to spread Fedora. This is my FAS Page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jaideep Welcome Jaideep. You should have gotten your mail a while back acknowledging you as a new Fedora Ambassador. I am looking forward to seeing you and rest of your friends in foss.in. I still have a resemblance to my Fedora wiki profile pic, so that should help find me :-) How about change the fedora wiki pic to a more recent/decent one? Joining the meme you mean ? That's a good one. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] A packaging request
Would anyone be interested in packaging and maintaining wtop http://code.google.com/p/wtop/ in Fedora ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ Sent from Brisbane, CA, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] A packaging request
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:29 AM, sankarshan sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: Would anyone be interested in packaging and maintaining wtop http://code.google.com/p/wtop/ in Fedora ? Done in [1] [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531987 *That* was fast. Thank you :) -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Extending membership map for other groups.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: The membership map which was only for ambassadors so far can now easily be extended to any FAS group. Have a look here: https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/index.html Susmit, thanks for doing this. This is much appreciated. There is a sizeable portion of the country that seems to be bereft of Ambassadors. Is it because the location data is missing or, is it truly that we do not have Ambassadors ? If you want map of a particular group, let me know. I remember Rahul wanted packager membership-map. Is that request stiil in place? I have sent you a set of requested maps off-list. Would be looking forward to them. Would you be blogging about this as well ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, CA, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Reminder: FOSS.IN 2009 26-Oct-2009 End of submissions proposals (23:59 GMT+0530)
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: If you are planning on proposing a talk as a speaker and haven't registered your talks at http://foss.in, now would be a good time to do so. If you are doing it as part of the proposed Fedora Project day, list your talk at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foss_in_2009 Note that listing your talk in this wiki doesn't mean you are registered. You will have to register in the http://foss.in website directly. Thanks. Once the FOSS.IN talk selection is over and, hopefully, a few of the proposals are accepted, would the folks like to huddle together on IRC or, telephone to plan things a bit more ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, CA, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Media, and other requests in the light of holidays coming up
Hi, Aside from the well known holidays that are coming up, Maharashtra has elections (and, hence holiday) as well. This would mean that processing the tickets/requests via the trac would be impacted. Please bear with us. For all requests and the like, please read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Questions before opening a new ticket. Do also note that we are nearly out of DVDs for 32 bit systems. However we do have some LiveCDs which we can ship. /sankarshan -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: [Ambassadors] Require 75 Fedora CD/DVD in Mumbai
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Gaurav Prabhu g5_fosslo...@yahoo.in wrote: I(actually my friend) would like to have around 75 CD or DVD of Fedora 11 for my college project based on Linux in which I'm considering distributing medias to the students. Can anyone provide me with the same. I am located in Mumbai I can collect them forehand. I need the media by end of this month. Apologies for the duplicate message but I forgot to fill in the subject. You should get in touch with Arvind Sharma (cc: ed), I'll send across the DVDs to him. /sankarshan -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: [Ambassadors] Require 75 Fedora CD/DVD in Mumbai
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:05 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Gaurav Prabhu g5_fosslo...@yahoo.in wrote: I(actually my friend) would like to have around 75 CD or DVD of Fedora 11 for my college project based on Linux in which I'm considering distributing medias to the students. Can anyone provide me with the same. I am located in Mumbai I can collect them forehand. I need the media by end of this month. Apologies for the duplicate message but I forgot to fill in the subject. You should get in touch with Arvind Sharma (cc: ed), I'll send across the DVDs to him. Hmm... hitting send should be done with care. Please do raise a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ so as to enable us to track this. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fedora Contributors In India - FedoraProject
Does the page below form a comprehensive list of contributors from India ?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Contributors_In_India
If you find a name missing, I'd request you to insist that the person
create a user page and, list {her|him}self on this page.
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[fedora-india] Fwd: Call for release slogan suggestions
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mel Chua m...@redhat.com Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM Subject: Call for release slogan suggestions To: Fedora Marketing fedora-marketing-l...@redhat.com (Marketing folks - please take this out to other lists and teams you think would be interested! I'd like to have a Marketing liason driving this discussion in every other list.) We need a slogan for the F12 release. It will be chosen one week from now on 9/17. A release slogan is a short call-to-action that fits the artwork theme from Design, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan#Themes. (F11's slogan was Reign, F10's was Fire it up!) Please put your slogan ideas here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas. Feel free to discuss slogan ideas on this and other mailing lists - but also make sure to put your ideas in that table on that wiki page so they'll be counted. The deadline for submissions is Tuesday 9/15 at 20:00 UTC, which is our next Marketing meeting (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings). We'll be discussing submissions there, and then Mo Duffy will take that input and select the final slogan on behalf of the Design team on Thursday 9/17. Let me know if you have any questions/comments/concerns - and let the wiki table know if you have any ideas! Go! --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list fedora-marketing-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Kolkata: Software Freedom Day: Speakers
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Mani Aa.mani@gmail.com wrote: The Kolkata team ILUG-CalInfo will be celebrating SFD in collaboration with CSI, Kolkata chapter at the CSI auditorium on the 15th of September from 17:00 to 20:00 hrs. We had to pre-pond the event due to unavoidable reasons (SFD is on the 19th of September). I notice that you have a media request open for this event. Once you have the agenda and, speaker list etc in place, please update the request/ticket so as to enable the consignment to be shipped within time. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Screensaver building : help
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I think this falls squarely into the scope of the design team. So redirect your question to fedora-design list unless of course you specifically want images related to India. I think, there is somewhat of a trend to post to fedora-india list queries just because you are from India. While it is good to see some traffic, don't do that. Use this list only when the topic is somehow region specific - local events, team meetings, free media etc. And yet there is an upside - I am fairly certain that a larger segment of the fedora-india subscribers would not be subscribed to the various lists. Or, they would be aware of them. A mail (like the one from the OP) and, your response provides an implicit guide towards how to project issues and, move towards solutions. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Mirroring Fedora
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Vermakevinve...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Lot of QA work can also be done within Virtual Machine guests but still fast download resourcing is a critical requirement. So far it looks that there aren't any mirrors hosting development bits for India as of now. (http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/12-Alpha/) If you can find time to write up about how to set up a VM to do QA and, add that document to the Fedora wiki, I'd say we have a canonical URL to point folks to. Coupled with the offline repositories being setup by Shakthi, it would be a good start. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Mirroring Fedora
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Kevin Vermakevinve...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I'll appreciate if someone can take up a project to make new-mirror-setups more seamless for new takers of private/public mirrors. Perhaps few interactive scripts, cron configurations, sync scripts in a RPM, or if there is one existing already then I'll love to know about it. Susmit did demonstrate a mirror-on-a-box concept around a year back with rudimentary scripts setting up a mirror. A larger requirement for the mirror is the base set of bits, beyond that it is rsync, mirror-manager and, talking with the Infrastructure folks. The important requirement is having the will to maintain it for atomicity. Hopefully that work will also help to convince ISPs in country to setup mirrors (or at-least Intelligent Mirror) within their network for their Internet services users. At the Fedora 12 test day I realized that to increase userbase and QA contribution from within India, its first of all important for us to increase the number of mirrors. To increase the QA contribution, we need more people doing QA on existing release, honing their skills and, moving to rawhide. It is a fact of life that contributing to QA on rawhide requires at least another machine (to be able to have a single sane and, a single broken box) - most students will not be having that. On the other hand, they do have computers in their labs and, figuring out a way to have QA jam sessions would help them appreciate and, learn about the OS bits better. I have always had hopes that the college installation fests would progress to some QA activities too - sadly, all of them seem to be very content doing nothing more than installations. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] For those who missed Paul Frield's blog off planet.fedoraproject.org
http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2693 A few months ago I discovered a neat trick you can play in Anaconda, the Fedora installer, and thought I would spend time writing it up and passing it on, instead of Imagine you have a USB hard disk with the release tree available. It doesn’t matter what release, but let’s assume it’s something new like Fedora 11 or Rawhide. You don’t have a DVD or CD images available, but you want to run an installation from the USB hard disk. [... read on] -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Is There Any ILUG Group In Delhi That Constantly Holds Meeting.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Shubham Guptaangelofde...@ymail.com wrote: Is There any ILUG Group In Delhi Because As Far As I Have Noticed Most Of Them Don't Take In Any New Members. Also They Have Meeting Just Once Or Twice A Year. Is There Any ILUG That I Can Join. The iLUG-Delhi mailing list is fairly active and, there's a LUG at IIT-Delhi as well, perhaps you could check either/both of them. /s -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] An online session for Indian Ambassadors.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: I am thinking about conducting a IRC classroom session for India ambassadors. This is to ensure help if you needed some and also with a view to extend your involvement with other sub-projects within Fedora. Let me know what will be the most suitable date/timing for most of you. I'd be interested in this. I generally do not prefer weekends, but that's me and, I could try and make it in if it is a weekend. Would you be having some specific times in mind (as in providing guidance about appropriate times) /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora 10, 11 Repositories
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Shakthi Kannanshakthim...@gmail.com wrote: I now have Fedora 10 and Fedora 11 repositories, each 25 GB that can be used completely offline. At present I am in Hyderabad, and if anyone needs it, please let me know. I shall copy the repositories to others when I travel to their respective cities/towns/villages. Thanks for doing this Shakthi. For others, how can we best use this ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Installing bin86
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, sankarshanfoss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find it in the repos or the pkgdb. There is. however, dev86.i586 : A real mode 80x86 assembler and linker if it helps. Thanks to Rahul and Kushal for pointing out that I had no idea what I was talking about :) Or, in other words, short of downloading bin86 from the source (or, perhaps packaging and, maintaining it) you won't get it in Fedora. Sorry about the noise. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: Blogs and photos from the NIT-Agartala event ?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:24 AM, sankarshansankars...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I noticed only Shakthi blogging - what about others who are at NIT-Agartala ? It has been a while since https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-July/msg00201.html was posted. I guess I have to give up the ghost of reading a post from the event organizers. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: A shout-out to all the new Ambassadors from India
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM, sankarshansankars...@fedoraproject.org wrote: If you have been recently sponsored into the Fedora Ambassador group, it would be good to know what you have been doing to get to speed with the Ambassador role, whether you have had the chance to install and check out Fedora 11, have been visible in the nearest UserGroups and so on. We have had a good number of new Ambassadors, would you guys prefer me doing a roll-call ? :) ~sankarshan ps: where 'new' is defined by the Jan-till date cycle -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] [Important] For any budget/media/any other request, you need to open a ticket.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:05 PM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: To streamline the process and track it better, we have introduced a trac for fedora-india. Thank you Susmit for getting this done. If you are requesting budget/media/misc.stuff for an event, please ensure that you have read point #1 at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Questions. And, please do not use SMS-ese English in the trac ticket, it makes it somewhat difficult to decipher. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Please update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India#Indian_Fedora_Contributors
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India#Indian_Fedora_Contributors if you have not done already /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patelan...@redhat.com wrote: I am not a Fedora ambassador, but I do contribute to Fedora (and various other) localization project since long time. One of the things I have learned from my localization experience is to always preserve the credits of previous translators. So, their credit is never getting lost irrespective of whether they are active currently or not. Similarly, if there is a way to preserve the credits of the previous ambassadors on the list, would be great I think. There was a mail on the Ambassadors list (which I can't find now) which put the statement below in a much nicer way: [0] A Fedora Ambassador is an Ambassador-for-life unless he/she does something that is so completely against the Foundations that we have to review the situation [1] Asking Ambassadors whether they wish to be listed as active/inactive isn't taking credit away I have been at the periphery of localization and, I guess I could pull up a somewhat related example - infrequently we see that certain locales/language teams request a change in leadership asking that a more active member be entrusted with the responsibilities of getting things done. Upon review, such requests are generally granted. I'd guess such a thing happens because the system desires a degree of accountability. It is a valid point that you raise, and, I just wanted to make it clear that this process isn't about erasing credit. I hope that this illustration together with the anecdote I had provided clears the air. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ?
Here's an example from real-life. I took a fancy to a product from a consumer goods company, checked up their websites for the nearest stores, paid a visit to all of them and, found out that this particular product is not launched for my region at all. That specific bit of information was available at the larger store who pointed me to the contact details for their head office. So, the question was - what about my consumer experience (going round and round without getting what I wanted) and, did I eventually buy it ? I am sure that the answer would be fairly obvious. Firstly, thank you Ankur for taking time out to write the concerns. As much we have talked about it, having a single mail helps. This is much appreciated. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of ambassadors lack accountability. I suggest a weeding process to weed ones that are inactive. I know this has been done before, but housekeeping is periodic, isn't it? Since becoming a fedora ambassador is a voluntary activity,requiring no qualification, a lot of folks join up just so they can call themselves Fedora Ambassador in India without paying *any* respect to it's duties. The decision to become a Fedora Ambassador is voluntary, but not for a moment let us delude ourselves by thinking that it requires no qualification. An Ambassador is an evangelist and, an evangelist is a person who knows as much about the product/technology as do the developers. That takes a lot of doing and, requires investing time. A self-initiated disciplined approach towards becoming an excellent Ambassador goes further than an externally imposed discipline coupled with the stick of censure. There can be many good reasons as to why a listed Ambassador might choose to be silent and unresponsive. And, they are all valid reasons. However, because he/she is an Ambassador, it is their duty to inform the Ambassadors about their going on leave of absence so that the end user experience is not hindered. Susmit has worked hard within the FAmSCo to put in place a system somewhat similar to what you describe which is aimed at a single objective - ensuring that the listed Ambassadors are the active Ambassadors. I would like to give the system some time to show results. It does derive from the provenpackager model and, I believe that it would help us grow a better community of Ambassadors. As starters,for eg(s), - IIRC, all ambassadors were required to post on their blogs (every 3 months atleast , I think?) regarding what work they've been doing? - How many of them even take part in discussions on this list? - How many of them are helping spread Fedora or contributing otherwise? Good catch :) I haven't been that regular myself. I think I should start putting out on blogs that discussions which are initiating various good stuff. There are a lot of other duties that need to be fulfilled which are going *ignored*. As a side effect, *we* end up asking questions such as,If there are *so many* ambassadors, why isn't the LC program working?? The LC program has its own reasons for being the way it is and, frankly, it has been one issue that we have been trying to grapple without much apparent success. Replying to a mail saying Yes, I'm an ambassador and I've been doing this recently.(which there is no way of confirming) is not enough to qualify someone as an ambassador. Most folks only wake up to reply to that one mail so they can keep the FA in India. I tend to follow the thumb-rule that the Ambassadors will not be fibbing. Or, they will write about what they have been doing actually. Of course, it turns out that now and then I do get pointed to tall claims. Not much can be done besides the fact that the specific Ambassador loses the currency of trust on my books. The point is, if someone is doing, they are trying to solve problems and, such things are best done through a discussion with the peer group. [snip] There was a probation period for new ambassadors too. I haven't quite seen it implemented. Ahh ! That means we are doing a good job of implementing it :) ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Blogs and photos from the NIT-Agartala event ?
I noticed only Shakthi blogging - what about others who are at NIT-Agartala ? /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ?
We seem to be getting a few of such questions on a regular basis - what is the easiest means to obtain an answer for this ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of reach out to the Ambassador near you kind of application ? I shall do it anyway. :) Thanks Do you think people will reply when contacted? If they don't, that is always a good reason to review their Ambassador role. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Reliance CDMA data card driver for Fedora
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, pushpinder singhwritetol...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for the cross postings m new on the list. but does anyone have the magic code for Reliance CDMA data card? A bit more information about the make/model of the card or, what you see dmesg output would probably help folks /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Using trac for event management
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Ideally, every time someone wants funds or media for a event, they file a ticket and all discussions associated with the event should stay there. It can be private if needed. I like this idea - what needs to be done to get this working ? /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: 2009-06-24 - Fedora QA meeting Recap
To be read in the context of: http://jlaska.livejournal.com/5693.html /sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Date: Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM Subject: Re: 2009-06-24 - Fedora QA meeting Recap To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases fedora-test-l...@redhat.com On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 23:08 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: The reason for the lack of the needed information on a report is in most cases simply that the reporter has not a clue what to include in the report itself and is not mandatory to provide that information.The underlying problem is not the reporter nor the triager which often ask the reporter to include wrong information because the triager has no better clue what to include in the report so he ask for the most common include case ( usually to include /var/log/messages). The problem is that the maintainer(s) them self have failed to provide this information or has done so only to the reporter on a report bases.When a maintainer introduces a component into Fedora it should be mandatory for him to provide this information along with how to enable debug output and to provide test plans for the component. I think you've definitely accurately identified a problem here and it's important to improve this situation, but making things compulsory for maintainers isn't always the best way to go :). For instance, I recently added congruity as a package to Fedora (didn't push any builds yet, I'll do it soon). If I'd had to fill out some form to explain what info should be provided in the case of bugs, that would have just felt like another annoying hoop to jump through. I also might not really _know_ what to put there, yet, since I haven't seen what it does when it doesn't work right, so I'm not really sure how I'd go about diagnosing a problem. But if it were to happen, I'd work it out. So I'd say it's more something we should figure out a process for triagers and maintainers to work on together, without beating anyone over the head with a stick. We should be taking the initiative in asking our maintainers what information they need on reports for the components we work on. If they're not replying to these questions, we should ask if there's something wrong with how we're asking them, and if not, take it to the appropriate level to explain why we really need co-operation from maintainers on this. Rather than jumping straight to getting out the big stick :) If a triager were to develop a sudden desire to triage bugs on any package I maintained, and came and asked me in a productive way what sort of information would be required on bugs of the kind BUG_REPORT_X, I'd happily help out with that, and I think most maintainers probably would. But asking them to do it cold when initially importing a package might be a bit different. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-l...@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: [ilugd] [OT] Need Fedora 11
-- Forwarded message -- From: Andrew Lynn lynn.and...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] [OT] Need Fedora 11 To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list il...@lists.linux-delhi.org On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Amit bamit0...@gmail.com wrote: fedora 11 is bundled woth linux for you magzine. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I reside in Vikaspuri can any one provide me with iso/dvd for Fedora 11.Please mail or contact me at 9958563399 Thanks Saurabh Replying to the list as it maybe useful for others: Fedora 11: I have the iso for both i386 and x86_64. In addition I maintain a local repository of the Everything, updates, rpmfusion-free and non-free for internal use. Please feel free to drop in and pick up copies. Andrew Lynn Hall #8 School of Information Technology Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi 110067 -- Freed.in : Freedom in technology and software ___ ilugd mailinglist -- il...@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/il...@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mani Aa.mani@gmail.com wrote: Ambassadors can choose to charge a marginal service fee. marginal or nominal? cost of Fedora DVD = media price + Rs 20.00 I would suggest leaving the pricing of the media (if at all there is a group of people coming up to do this) to the folks who would be doing this. It should (at least theoretically) work out that the best service provider would get repeat business. ~sankarshan ps: The notion of my earlier mail was not a blanket statement that *we are closing down Freemedia for India* but nor was it aimed at initiating discussions around possible prices. I intended to demonstrate that given ample reasons, there are ways that retailing could be a good way to distribute media rather than being simply dependent on Freemedia. I'd be working with Susmit and, all others who volunteer critical inputs towards assessing how best to fine-tune Freemedia to make it work better than now. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs?
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:04 PM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Also, for freemedia, one can not charge money. He can ask the person if he is ok with it and do it separately. But freemedia needs more extensive thinking. To elaborate on this, the Freemedia program (as it is now) is completely dependent on the volunteering capacities of those who have raised their hands for it. Based on the volume of requests and, the number of volunteers, it becomes fairly hard sooner or later to meet all the requests. What happens then is that we fail our potential users - we provide them a way to request a media and yet, we do not actually end up sending them one. The alternative model (as PLUG is an example) is a not-free-of-cost media program. Here, anyone could put up their names as a provider of media _with_cost_attached_. Whether this cost includes only media charges plus postage or, whether it also includes a small margin is left to the volunteer. This ensures that we have two things going into this - [1] there is accountability built-in (if someone charges for goods, they'd need to deliver [2] the requests which did not receive a media now have an option of getting the media via payment. I took the example of PLUG (PuneLUG) because they seem to be servicing such requests successfully and, this may just be a way for LUGs (as well as individuals) to have a way to outreach to a larger community without having to pay out of their own pocket. I am more interested to ensure that we are in a position to provide media than spend time trying to figure out how best to revive Freemedia. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: [nrcfossconsult 193] w-meter released
Folks might like to keep an eye on this for a possible package ~sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:08 AM Subject: [nrcfossconsult 193] w-meter released To: ilug-bengal...@googlegroups.com, nrcfosscons...@googlegroups.com hi, AU-KBC has released w-meter, an open source wireless tool: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/w-meter/ -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] A shout-out to all the new Ambassadors from India
Hi, If you have been recently sponsored into the Fedora Ambassador group, it would be good to know what you have been doing to get to speed with the Ambassador role, whether you have had the chance to install and check out Fedora 11, have been visible in the nearest UserGroups and so on. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ?
aka. ping Gora / Kishore :) How do we get the iLUGD to receive a consignment ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: [PLUG] Hands on session on Scientific computing with Python on 11th July
For folks in Pune and, not on PLUG list /sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: Manjusha Joshi manjusha.jo...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM Subject: [PLUG] Hands on session on Scientific computing with Python on 11th July To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List plug-m...@plug.org.in Hands on session on Scientific Computing with Python Speaker: Ramakrishna Reddy level: beginners Time: 3-5 pm Date: 11 th July, 09 Saturday No fees. Venue: Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana (www.bprim.org) 56/14, Erandavane, Damle Path, Off Law College Road, Pune - 411 004, India. Open to all. Please register your self by sending mail to bhaskar...@vsnl.com Limited number of computers are available for hands on.first come first serve basis. Python 2.6 will be used. Thanks, -- Manjusha Joshi ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ?
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Gireesh Sreekantansgireeshm...@gmail.com wrote: Who would be the target audience? Any links to other existing booklets? Anyone who would be interested in knowing about The Fedora Project, would like to obtain an overview of what the project is about and, in general find it handy to have a book in hand to refer to. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ?
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Manish Gurnanimanishgurnani...@yahoo.com wrote: I can. Live in Mayur Vihar ph-1. Let me know whom should I forward the address to. Off list to sundaram at fedoraproject dot org and, please do ensure that you have a reasonably updated User: page on the wiki -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 11:15 +0530, sankarshan wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a local contact. The media is not following the receiver becomes donor scheme that we want it to. We never did visualize the receiver becomes donor way of paying it forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the free FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be able to project that they are charging for the media. I don't understand the last sentence. project that they are charging for the media meaning? The LocalContacts should be able to represent with clarity that they are/would be charging for the media is probably an apt way to phrase that sentence. /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: The essential clarification needed is whether they would charge only the cost of media + postage or would there also be a service charge? I do not see a reason for them not to have a margin of service cost built into the price. As long as they remain accountable (ie. are willing to be providing media replacements etc should the media be bad), there is no harm in running this as a profit making initiative. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I love it when good ideas pop up. I was just thinking, we seriously lack apps for tapping this particular section, that is the health care and medical community. Time to roll out a spin? It is going to be a good selling point and good work if done. There are two ways to go about it - a good way and, a not-so-good way. The latter means clubbing together all like software into a spin via a fairly trivial kickstart. So, what you get is a bunch of applications shoved into a spin without having a storyline. The former is sifting through the applications using a story and, choosing them so that they are effectively used from Day0. In short, what I suggest is getting someone with domain knowledge of this field involved as well. I think that was one of the reasons FEL became wildly successful. Having said all that, if you are cooking up a kickstart - I can volunteer to do QA :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 07/06/2009 09:20 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: I know that blue dart provides such service. The Australian high commission in Delhi has such a contract with them. The amount of couriers we are going to be sending is lower than them and it would end up costing a bomb shell. I would gladly outsource the couriering/media replication etc to a separate agency if they charge reasonable rates and would take care of it entirely. I haven't found one. In most of the discussions around FreeMedia, the thread eventually boils down to there are more requests than there are volunteers to service those requests and, the costs of courier are exponentially high. How about looking at the problem in terms of folks are requesting for media (note the absence of the the phrase free of cost) and, we need to think up a way to route the media to these folks ? Or, in other words, how many routes can we think up that would get the media to them ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:56 AM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: The easiest option will be to keep a field like: * I want to pay the postage. * I don't want to pay the postage. That's one route. I am sure that there are more than one way to get to a solution for this problem. A query I had was - is it possible to have a geographical representation of the FreeMedia requests ? Perhaps we could try and get some LocalContacts going as close as possible. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: That's one route. I am sure that there are more than one way to get to a solution for this problem. A query I had was - is it possible to have a geographical representation of the FreeMedia requests ? Technically, kids play. ;) But can we log the browser data without consent from user/requester? Which brings up a somewhat different problem - without having the means to have a geographical view of the requests, it would be difficult to formulate an action. Looking at the places which generate the most number of requests would allow us to figure out how best to triage. There are two ways at looking at a solution - [1] the ultimate and perfect solution and, [2] the optimal solution that allows the highest number of people to receive the media they requested. Perhaps we could try and get some LocalContacts going as close as possible. But we have a *lot* of LocalContacts, but does that fulfill any of the freemedia requests? I have not seen any. Precisely. So, why can't the Local Contacts be active ? Should we be asking them this question ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basusherry...@gmail.com wrote: Very true. Local contacts can serve requests which originate from within a rang of a few kilometres. Anything beyond that boils down to the same postage issue. Even the next city is out of reach for local contacts. People are not willing to travel and collect the media themselves. It is much easier for them to obtain a pirated Windows CD. I tend to think that I have had enough talk about Windows CD (pirated is a singularly unfit term to use for software) or, other Linux distributions. From what I recall, the LocalContacts was an experiment to ensure the following: [1] local outreach happens [2] a locally available support system is incubated I am yet to see a positive outcome of either goals. Which is why I had the query about whether it is possible for the local contact to get a geographic profile of requests. If we do not have enough local contacts to be present across every city we are receiving requests from, our question should be why not and, we should start thinking about what can be done. If we have existing LocalContacts not providing media at-cost, our questions should be why can't they and, we should start a conversation about how they could be doing this. One alternative is to use VPP [1] . As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. There should be ways and means to outreach. For example, there are UserGroups a plenty - can we figure out a way to tie into them as well as have them accountable for shipping the media. I know PuneLUG does an awesomely good job of doing so, how about other UGs ? The UGs at institutes for example - does their charter allow them to ship media at-cost ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinhasanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a local contact. The media is not following the receiver becomes donor scheme that we want it to. We never did visualize the receiver becomes donor way of paying it forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the free FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be able to project that they are charging for the media. Local contacts are usually students who have a fixed pocket money. You can do the math :) So, do I take it that the students will not want to set up a system whereby they can charge for media and, keep a margin for themselves ? That's a paradox really. I would have thought that given the volume of demand and scarcity of supply, it should have been a reasonably nice opportunity. As Rangeen mentions in his reply, UGs are merely students. Again , same equation. Another variable that messes this up is that Fedora isn't the only distribution around. Since they are Linux UGs and not Fedora UGs, getting people to distribute fedora dvds is difficult. They all support their different distributions and fundamentally want the same thing we do, for them. There's a hefty discussion as to which distro we are going to use in the install fest. Its not always Fedora. Let me rephrase the question (assuming that neither Rangeen nor you did get the drift) - can UGs actually be ready to set up a system whereby they charge for media when requested and, keep the margin in the UG account ? For example, http://plug.org.in/software.php - is this model difficult to replicate across other UGs and, especially institute UGs ? A query: Are all the local contacts members of the free media list, rather, do they all check to see if there are requests that they can service or is this done by somebody (who assigns such media requests to local contacts)?? I don't have the answer to that off-hand, but I can check around. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Rangeen Basusherry...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, sankarshanfoss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basusherry...@gmail.com wrote: As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. Extremely sorry if my thoughts were not clear but I wasn't tlaking about bulk producing media rather I was talking about a way freemedia contributors can send media to the requesters. Normally freemedia contributors would buy media , burn them and pot them. I would be nice if this cost could e borne by the requesters, if not in full then at least a part of it. If there is a general consensus in this regard then the freemedia contributors can start using this method. It might sound heretic, but here's what I see happening - we already provide Freedom as a feature :) giving away the media for free (ie. no-cost) is not helping us make much headway. Freedom and free-of-cost are not getting appreciated and, we seem to be ending up with more freeloading than we can handle. The budget is finite (and, it is minute) so, we simply cannot go on pushing money into the game. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] For those organizing events around F11 and so forth
Please ensure that at least two from the following list have had a chance to review your agenda before making an announcement. sundaram at fedoraproject dot org susmit at fedoraproject dot org kushal at fedoraproject dot org If you are looking for funding for the event, please get in touch as early as you can with as much detail as is possible about the costs and, categories of cost. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Thank you all - Fedora 11 Release Party, Pune, India
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Will followup with blog posts on the event shortly. For those who attended the event, feel free to write to me if you have more feedback and/or questions. http://www.linuxforu.com/news/community/lets-go-party-today/ seems to be up -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: Reliance data card ZTE AC 8710
Hi, Would anyone be aware if the data card mentioned below works on F10/F11 ? ~sankarshan On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Barefootmand...@barefoot.co.in wrote: Dear Support @ Fedora in India I bought Relaince High speed 3G data card. Model ZTE AC 8710 I use Fedora 10 and open office. Can you pls help me in setting up the data card. Best Regds Mandira Mohan Nitin Mohan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Thank you all - Fedora 11 Release Party, Pune, India
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: We had about 60 people attend, questions were insightful and the feedback was motivating. Thank you all for participating and thanks to Plug for graciously moving the time to accommodate us. We will try to do this for every release and have intermediate events as well to encourage more participation and contributions. http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2009/07/06/notes-from-the-leonidas-release-party-at-pune/ is a blog on the same. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] New video(s) from Red Hat - The Red Hat Way
http://www.redhat.com/stories/redhatway/ : good to play out at events and gatherings. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai
I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get in touch with him. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshanfoss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get in touch with him. Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) arsharma at redhat dot com : looks like i better turn in for the day :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet Connection
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, abhishek sharmaemote2abhis...@gmail.com wrote: What do I do when I cant use Yum?. I mean I can get connected to the internet only thru Wi-Fi here. So my only choice is to get the packages in a flash drive and install them. I remember using deb only my ubuntu. Dont know how to do the same thing in Fedora I was hoping if someone could help me with that. Perhaps you are looking for yum localinstall (please see man page for yum for more details) but we'd need some details about the packages you'd like to install before going further. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Do we have any Fedora Ambassadors out of Mumbai ?
$subject. If we have, can they please put up their hands on this list ? The context is that I get this question all the time and, I'd like to see who we have on the ground. It is somewhat strange that a city like Mumbai would not have Fedora folks :) -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fwd: Test Day shepherding SOP draft is up
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Ashwin Mansinghkaashwin_...@yahoo.com wrote: Read the provided URL. FOSS / LINUX has a unique position of being tested in variety of ways by the actual users and reporting bugs or otherwise by various means like mailing list, bug reports, internet relay chat etc. How will this attempt to standardization of testing (in whatever little way) will help the very successful ways of NON STANDARD TESTING as explained above and well practiced so far. The draft SOP is an attempt to put a structure to the Test Days. You would recall that in the days prior to the release of Fedora 11, the QA/Testing folks had been running Test Days on various aspects. The draft is a way to collate all the learning from that and, present them so as to enable anyone who wants to run a Test Day (say, for example, a group of students at a college want to run an Installation Test Day or, a LXDE Spin Test Day), can be up and running without having to run around too much. This in no way excludes the reporting of defects via the usual means of the Bugzilla. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: Test Day shepherding SOP draft is up
It would perhaps be fun for Ambassadors at colleges/institutions to organize a Test Day as part of a Fedora Activity Day. Forwarding the SOP document draft for reading ~sankarshan -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:20 AM Subject: Test Day shepherding SOP draft is up To: fedora-test-l...@redhat.com Hi, guys. jlaska and I concocted a little scheme to create an SOP for running a Test Day, that will help ensure consistency in how Test Days are run and also hopefully make it easier for people besides James and myself to run them :). The current draft of this SOP is available here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_test_day_SOP it's not quite complete yet, there's a few bits I'd like to maybe refine a little, but it's pretty much all there as far as I can see. So, throwing it out there for review: anyone see problems or possible improvements? And, as noted, this will be on tomorrow's meeting agenda, so you can talk about it there too. Just imagine the fun! Thanks gang. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-l...@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Google Chromium Web browser for Fedora
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I think that is what Chromium linux splash calls as complex rendering Yes. Wanted to put that out before folks miss the splash and, feel disappointed. It is a nifty browser otherwise. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Google Chromium Web browser for Fedora
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Thanks to Tom Callaway, http://spot.livejournal.com/308900.html Works nicely once the repo is added. Has non-existent Indic support though :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Leonidas
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kishore Bhargavakish...@pobox.com wrote: Am surprised that the community is so quiet on the launch of a new release. Fedora 11 is supposed to be great, I have not seen it yet and am waiting to get hold of the media, but really guys, there should be some fanfare at each release. The ambassadors need to ensure that some noise is made in each city and that the media is made available. At least IMHO. Whats the point of a thriving community if this is not done. I agree. There are a couple of events/parties lined up. Most of them are around the later days of the month since they are awaiting the shipment of the bulk produced media. However, nothing does stop the Ambassadors from coming together using a UG meet or, just an informal chat session and, have a romp talking about and spreading the Fedora message of 4Fs. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Fedora 11 Leonidas is Almost Ready to Kick Ass!
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Kishore Bhargava kish...@pobox.com wrote: I hope it works for me! I have been on the light brown side for a while Fedora 10 did not work on my MacBook Pro and though everything in Ubuntu works, I don't like it much. I still prefer Fedora. Is it possible for you to pop a LiveUSB/LiveCD in and check if things work better this time ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Mumbai, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [Fedora-India] Spread Fedora a little more??
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Either, assuming they connect to the same repositories. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education/EducationLive#Fedora_11_and_onwards is a plan that needs to be tracked as well -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Gujarat ( INDIA ) introduce open source at 12th standard syllabus with @ 50% weightage.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Nilesh J. Vaghela electrom...@electromech.info wrote: I thought let me share you the efforts of people like us and success story , the introduction of open source mainly LINUX is now part of official syllabus of Gujarat 12th standard computer subject. Now is as good a time as any to undertake some well thought out steps along the following lines: - ensure that content that allows potential users to install, configure and use Linux/Fedora is available in the local language - ensure that the applications that are used (or, wished to be used) are exhaustively packaged for and maintained in Fedora - work on spins/remixes that are relevant to deployment like these - work towards creating a collaborative book that can be used by the teachers/trainers And, last but not the least, do our best to be excellent to each other so that we can collaborate and get similar positive outcome across various states and education boards. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: Non English Podcast?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jack Aboutboul j...@redhat.com Date: Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:04 AM Subject: Non English Podcast? To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base fedora-marketing-l...@redhat.com Does anyone on the list who speaks another language, fluently, such as French, Spanish, German or any of the languages in India have any interest in recording a podcast with a feature owner who can speak the same? Might be good to have some audio in something other then english, what do you think? Jack -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list fedora-marketing-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Manipur Fedora 11 Release Event at Manipur University
The days I feel absolutely down and out are generally the days when I feel like I am gouging folks to report back as to what they have been up to. We have been through this over and over again and, although modesty is considered a virtue - talking about what keeps you busy doing Fedora in the communities around you is what is demanded of Ambassadors. I would go so far as to say that if you aren't talking amongst your peers about what you are doing, you are not meeting one criteria of being a Fedora Ambassador. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Rishikesh Sharma rishik...@fedoraproject.org wrote: After my last Fedora Event, I am helping students and professionals who are not aware of Fedora. I am doing fedora installation on thier Laptops and Desktop for them. And helping them to able to listen music and videos on their Fedora system. I am also helping them to run their choice of open source programs on their fedora. After the release event, lots of people ask me for the free fedora media. I have distributed about 25 fedora 10 DVD's after the release event. Have they faced any issues with F10 release ? If so, what has been the common questions ? Has their been hardware that has refused to work out the box ? If so, did you report that someplace (preferably the bugzilla) ? What do they use their computers for ? Has F10 been able to meet all their requirements ? Since you mention students and professionals - are they interacting on Linux issues with Linux-Manipur ? Are you involved in Linux-Manipur ? Is the local LUG ready to receive a consignment of media so as to enable and encourage distribution ? What is their choice of open source programs ? How many students use Fedora to do their work ? What is the kind of work they do ? The folks you distributed 25 DVDs to - have they come back to you with issues ? How can you be sure that they have installed Fedora and, are using it ? You see a pattern here - don't you ? There are far too many open points that could have been discussed (and, should have been) between the last event and the upcoming event, but they never happened. I have help Komrein Baptish Church, Langol in installing Fedora 10 as their web server and database server for a missionary project. Good to know about this. lots of student approach me to learn Linux but i am not able to teach them on regular basis as i don't have enough time. But for them, i have arrange them for a quick tutorial. If you are unable to teach students the initial steps in Linux because of lack of time, what are the alternatives we can think of ? Are there others around you who could be coached into becoming a Fedora Ambassador ? i have installed Fedora for a training institute known as Indian Institute of information Technology, Lambulane at Imphal. They primarily used Fedora as their programming platform for students. What programming languages do they teach ? Are you comfortable hand-holding them or, do you think you need others to provide you pointers ? Debarshi, Arjun and Rakesh recently completed the first round of a programming/developer workshop for students at NIT, Hamirpur - do you think you could get talking so as to figure out what works and what doesn't ? And I hope, this time we will surely get some Fedora contributors amongst the students of Manipur University. I took a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/F11-Manipur and, it does not look any different from what was organized last time. In fact, it seems a bit vague as to how you want to measure the successful outcome of the event. Please don't just say that XYZ number of people attended the party and hence it was successful. I am a bit concerned that six months from the last event, we have not seen a single new face doing Fedora from your region. I'd like to know (off list if you prefer) what are your thoughts on this. I am holding back the approval of funds/sponsorship for the event till I understand what your plans for the community around you are. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Who are going to organise Release Parties?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Mani A a.mani@gmail.com wrote: F11 is scheduled for 2nd June ... that is why I put it there. Or I may postpone it if the media will take time. F10 is not required. It takes 15-20 days for the media to be produced in bulk. So, if you are planning to have a release event/party close to the actual release/GA date, it would be good to explore the cost options of producing a limited number of F11 media locally. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Who are going to organise Release Parties?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Mani A a.mani@gmail.com wrote: I have added an entry for Kolkata on June 6. Basically intend to extend the LUG meeting. Will need media By all accounts it does look that the meet would require F10 and perhaps the F11 preview release media. Is that what you are looking for ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] Re: A minimalist spin
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Ashok Gautham scriptdevil.fed...@gmail.com wrote: I know I could. But I was wondering if I should go in for a full fledged respin... The other alternative is to use the standard installation media with a custom kickstart file (supplied via USB/network, say) to install the minimal set. The caveat is that I have never tested whether all the applications that you want are available from a standard installation media set and, whether they actually have a minimal footprint. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Fwd: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
Please join in to test out IBus and, in general begin contribution to testing. -- Forwarded message -- From: Liam l...@redhat.com Date: 2009/5/11 Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases fedora-test-l...@redhat.com Cc: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com Greetings testers, IBus input method - Ibus has been rewritten in C, and provides a simple, clean default system for changing the way international users input information into a Fedora system. Most of the work on iBus is being done upstream by Huang Peng. This feature proposal covers moving from scim to ibus as the default input method framework for Fedora 11 iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim: * Ibus has been rewritten in C. Scim written in C++ using STL has problems with weak symbol conflicts without the added complexity and lower stability of the scim-bridge layer to workaround that. * It is possible to write client and engines for ibus in any language that supports dbus bindings. * ibus loads engines on demand rather than all installed engines as scim does, which improves the startup time and memory footprint. * scim loads engines as dl-modules so a problem in any engine can take down scim, whereas in ibus because the processes are separated only a faulty process will die leaving rest of the system working normally. * The architecture of ibus is bus-centric and so much closer to the CJK OSS Forum Workgroup 3 draft Specification of IM engine Service Provider Interface architecture, which might be supportable in the future. I'd like to invite you to join #fedora-qa this Thursday, May 14, 2009 to test Ibus input method.Get more details from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-14_iBus Thanks, Liam -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-l...@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Event in Manipur Central University, Imphal
[if you are cross posting, please make it clear either in the subject or, in the body] On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Rishikesh Sharma rishik...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This time again, I am planning to organise Fedora 11 Release Party at Manipur Central University, Imphal. The schedule date is on 3rd June, 2009 and venue is at Department of Computer Science, Manipur Central University. I had a formal meeting with the Head of Department of computer science, Mr. Tejmani regarding the upcoming event. He is also agreed for the event at the University. Good to hear about this. Would it be possible for you to sum up what activities have been ongoing since the last release party ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom -- Ambassador Tips Training
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It would be a good experience for the Ambassadors to participate in this classroom. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Tips_(20090503_Classroom) has the logs of the Classroom. For those who could not make it to class, please read the logs and, let's use this list to discuss any questions. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
