Fedora Weekly News 178
Fedora Weekly News Issue 178 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 178[1] for the week ending May 31st, 2009. We have a couple changes of note this week. Oisin Feeley, who has been on the editorial team for FWN and writer for the Development section, is leaving FWN for an extended time period due to other commitments. We will miss him and hope to have him back at some time. Adam Williamson, who currently also writes the wonderful QA beat, joins the editorial team at FWN -- welcome Adam! This week's issue starts off with some poetry on next week's expected Fedora 11 release, and much activity on upcoming Fedora activity days, dev cons, and events. In news from the Fedora Planet, we learn about SELinux sandbox, an overview on virtualization features in F11, several musings on aspects of open source projects/communities, and a feature interview with Fedora Project leader Paul W. Frields. The Quality Assurance beat details the QA weekly meeting leading up to F11 next week, F11 FAQ work, and release candidate testing detail. Development asks whether gNaughty is indeed a Hot Babe, detail on getting graphics support working for the Fedora Live USB with the Chrome9 Vx800 GPU, and suggestions on upgrading to F11 via yum. In Translation news, upcoming F11 website translation details and a new member of the Romanian translation team. This issue is rounded out with an overview of the security advisories for Fedora 9 and 10 this past week. Enjoy this issue and get ready for Fedora 11 a week from tomorrow! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-l...@redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue178 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora 11 (Leonidas) --- This week's Fedora 11 announcements come with apologies to William Butler Yeats[1]. Somewhere in the build systems of Fedora, A shape with lion body and the name of a Greek king, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Reel shadows of the impatient downloaders. The schedule slips again[2]; but now I know That 6 months of stony sleep Were vexed to release by Jesse Keating, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards June 9th to be born? 1. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00011.html --- Fedora Board --- The Fedora Board's next public IRC meeting will be held on Thursday June 4th, at 1700 UTC[1]. Join[2] #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation, and join #fedora-board-questions to discuss topics and post questions. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00010.html 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC --- FUDCons and FADs --- This section previews upcoming Fedora Users Developers Conferences, as well as upcoming Fedora Activity Days. -- Fedora Activity Days: Malaysia and Rheinfelden At press time, two Fedora Activity Days[1] were wrapping up, one in Malaysia[2] and one in Germany[3] for more information. See Max Spevack's blog[4] for more information. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Malaysia_May_2009 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Rheinfelden 4. http://spevack.livejournal.com/81179.html --- Fedora Activity Day: Development Cycle --- In North America, Jesse Keating announced[1] an upcoming Fedora Activity Day[2] for maintainers, QA, and release engineering folks to meet and discuss ongoing issues with the Fedora Development Cycle and to create a proposal on how to fix many of the issues. Note, this is not an event to decide on a solution, it is an event to decide on a proposal, which will then be shared with the whole community for more input and work. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00012.html 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle_2009 FUDCon Porto Alegre 2009 FUDCon Porto Alegre[1] will take place June 24-27 in Brazil. About 30 people have signed up so far, and we're hopeful for an attendance of over 100. If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:LATAM_2009 FUDCon Berlin 2009 FUDCon Berlin[1] will be held from June 26-28, and we're got almost 120 people pre-registered for the event. If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 --- Upcoming Events
No child processes
I have copied four virtual machines to the server from my PC,but it shows this error.425 build (dist-kylin, system-config-network-1.3.99-TJ.src.rpm): open (kojid) - FAILED: Fault: Fault 1: 'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 1275, in runTask\nresponse = (handler.run(),)\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 1351, in run\nreturn self.handler(*self.params,**self.opts)\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 2009, in handler\nbroot.init()\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 467, in init\nrv = self.mock([\'--init\'])\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 389, in mock\n status = os.waitpid(pid, os.WNOHANG)\nOSError: [Errno 10] No child processes\n'Please help me. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: No child processes
lixiao-a wrote: File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 2009, in handler broot.init()\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 467, in init rv = self.mock([\'--init\'])\n File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 389, in mock status = os.waitpid(pid, os.WNOHANG) OSError: [Errno 10] No child processes\n' It looks like the mock subprocess is dying before kojid can wait on it. Normally mock should never exit that fast, though we should probably handle that error a little more informatively. Try running mock manually on your build system to see if you can replicate the error that way. You might also try running kojid in the foreground (--fg option) in order to see the output from mock. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: How to remove the large directory after build ?
Now ,the directory is: - [r...@localhost mock]# du -hs * 651Mgtes11.2-build-10-9 18M gtes11.2-build-13-10 5.6Mgtes11.2-build-15-15 549Mgtes11.2-build-1-6 5.5Mgtes11.2-build-16-15 18M gtes11.2-build-18-18 18M gtes11.2-build-19-18 579Mgtes11.2-build-21-20 560Mgtes11.2-build-22-20 3.5Ggtes11.2-build-23-26 548Mgtes11.2-build-2-6 567Mgtes11.2-build-3-6 583Mgtes11.2-build-5-9 562Mgtes11.2-build-6-9 670Mgtes11.2-build-9-9 6.2Mgtes11.3-build-24-28 6.1Mgtes11.3-build-25-28 637Mgtes11.3-build-26-30 609Mgtes11.3-build-28-30 3.5Ggtes11.3-build-30-30 3.0Ggtes11.3-build-31-30 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-32-32 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-34-32 583Mgtes11.3-build-35-33 562Mgtes11.3-build-37-33 888Mgtes11.3-build-39-34 852Mgtes11.3-build-40-34 408Mmoblin2-build-41-38 417Mmoblin2-build-42-39 539Mmoblin2-build-43-39 == My builder is ok: [r...@localhost mock]# koji list-hosts Hostname Enb Rdy Load/Cap Arches Last Update kojibuilder1 N N0.0/2.0 i386,x86_64 2009-05-25 19:08:25 kojibuilder2 Y Y0.0/2.0 ia64 2009-05-29 14:18:59 kojibuilder3 Y Y0.0/2.0 x86_64,i386 2009-06-02 10:09:00 == Why ? Because I use a special disk space,and I use Selinux, So I modified the /var/lib/mock to /dist/mock on kojihub and kojiweb and kojibuilder3 host. but the kojibuilder2's mock directory is /var/lib/mock ,a link to /dist/mock on it's host. the kojihub and kojiweb and kojibuilder3's /mnt/koji directory is modified to /data/koji also . but the other kojibuilder*'s directory is /mnt/koji by nfs mount. Why ? It isn't change or removed after 1 days. Thanks! 2009/6/1 Mike Bonnet mi...@redhat.com 李建 wrote: Hello,everybody! My koji server has setup ok. but the mock dir is more and more large. How to remove it ? I mean if koji has this feature,I doesn't to do it myself. Is anyone can help me ? my mock directory info : 651Mgtes11.2-build-10-9 18M gtes11.2-build-13-10 5.6Mgtes11.2-build-15-15 549Mgtes11.2-build-1-6 5.5Mgtes11.2-build-16-15 18M gtes11.2-build-18-18 18M gtes11.2-build-19-18 579Mgtes11.2-build-21-20 560Mgtes11.2-build-22-20 3.5Ggtes11.2-build-23-26 548Mgtes11.2-build-2-6 567Mgtes11.2-build-3-6 583Mgtes11.2-build-5-9 562Mgtes11.2-build-6-9 670Mgtes11.2-build-9-9 6.2Mgtes11.3-build-24-28 6.1Mgtes11.3-build-25-28 637Mgtes11.3-build-26-30 609Mgtes11.3-build-28-30 3.5Ggtes11.3-build-30-30 3.0Ggtes11.3-build-31-30 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-32-32 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-34-32 583Mgtes11.3-build-35-33 562Mgtes11.3-build-37-33 888Mgtes11.3-build-39-34 852Mgtes11.3-build-40-34 408Mmoblin2-build-41-38 417Mmoblin2-build-42-39 == kojid manages the cleanup up the /var/lib/mock directory for builds it runs. Buildroots for successful builds will be cleaned up almost immediately. Buildroots for unsuccessful builds will be cleaned up after 4 hours, to give you a chance to debug the failure or copy relevant data out of the buildroot for later analysis. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list -- 李建 msn lijian@gmail.com -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Unbootable machine
Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello Peter Jeremy, I've found an ordinary desktop PC (with Phoenix Award BIOS 6.00PG) that won't boot off a USB stick created by livecd-tools-024 with syslinux (tested both versions 3.75 and 3.81). The boot process drops to the boot: prompt with an error message: could not find kernel image: linux The same USB stick boots fine on any other computer I could find. Does it seem like a syslinux bug? And if turns out to be a known BIOS bug, is there a good workaround? I need much more details; *all* Award BIOSes make in the past 10-12 years have version number 6.00PG. Also look for how you have configured your BIOS... some Award BIOSes have USB-ZIP, USB-HDD, USB-FDD configurations; you generally want USB-HDD. There are some BIOSes which will boot from USB *only* if it was formatted with 64 heads, 32 sectors; apparently due to some odd notion that only zipdrives would be USB. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora bittorrent tracker?
Do we offer a bittorrent tracker that FAS / fp.org users can use to host their own bittorrent content? (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content) Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/ See what it can do: http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/recipes.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RPM Soft dependencies (Was: Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting)
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: Of course, it can't know why you installed them or even if something outside of its scope (e.g. a program you compiled manually) still needs one of those. IMHHHO, this is the first thing to address to get a reasonable behavior. Every installed rpm on the system should be marked with a bit wanted by the user. Current systems just need a way to manually flag the packages already installed. I need firefox, not glibc, not libjpg. If I remove firefox and thunderbird and all the other stuff, libjpg can be removed too, from the point of view of the user. It is somewhat annoying when one installs a package which drags 10 dependencies, then removes the package and there is no easy way to cleanup all the libs and additional stuff. Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora bittorrent tracker?
On 2009-06-01 09:53:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Do we offer a bittorrent tracker that FAS / fp.org users can use to host their own bittorrent content? (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content) You can always make a request to Infrastructure at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/. We've hosted some Fedora-related things there before. No idea if we have any sort of policy on what goes there though. It'll probably depend on how much space we have and how long it needs to be there for, etc. Thanks, Ricky pgpLTBAKYzwmT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?
On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't see it recorded in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Trademark_licensees It doesn't fit the trademark guidelines either. While Red Hat can legally grant a license to anyone and doesn't have to abide by the guidelines, I would expect it to do so nevertheless. So why a special exception for Russian Fedora? There shouldn't be a special case, and it's possible that Red Hat's distributor in Russia may have granted some sort of permision that (a) it shouldn't have, and (b) it didn't even have the authority to grant. The Russian-specific portions of this thread seem to have moved over here, where I responded to a similar thread. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-June/msg0.html --Max -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rpms/pango/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.86, 1.87 pango.spec, 1.160, 1.161 sources, 1.87, 1.88
Author: mclasen Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32410 Modified Files: .cvsignore pango.spec sources Log Message: 1.24.2 Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.86 retrieving revision 1.87 diff -u -p -r1.86 -r1.87 --- .cvsignore 14 Apr 2009 00:12:00 - 1.86 +++ .cvsignore 1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 - 1.87 @@ -1 +1 @@ -pango-1.24.1.tar.bz2 +pango-1.24.2.tar.bz2 Index: pango.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/pango.spec,v retrieving revision 1.160 retrieving revision 1.161 diff -u -p -r1.160 -r1.161 --- pango.spec 18 Apr 2009 12:39:23 - 1.160 +++ pango.spec 1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 - 1.161 @@ -8,8 +8,8 @@ Summary: System for layout and rendering of internationalized text Name: pango -Version: 1.24.1 -Release: 1%{?dist}.1 +Version: 1.24.2 +Release: 1%{?dist} License: LGPLv2+ Group: System Environment/Libraries Source: http://download.gnome.org/sources/pango/1.24/pango-%{version}.tar.bz2 @@ -225,6 +225,10 @@ fi %changelog +* Mon Jun 1 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 1.24.2-1 +- Update to 1.24.2 +- http://download.gnome.org/sources/pango/1.24/pango-1.24.2.news + * Sat Apr 18 2009 Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com 1.24.1-1.1 - autoconf uses ibm-linux not redhat-linux (s390x) Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/sources,v retrieving revision 1.87 retrieving revision 1.88 diff -u -p -r1.87 -r1.88 --- sources 14 Apr 2009 00:12:00 - 1.87 +++ sources 1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 - 1.88 @@ -1 +1 @@ -af0beac1dd1825e241c5728081f16acd pango-1.24.1.tar.bz2 +7bc6c884d847cabc613e4c6d663771f5 pango-1.24.2.tar.bz2 ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 503617] Review Request: senamirmir-washra-fonts - Fonts for the Geʼez (Ethiopic) scrip
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503617 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs-l...@redh ||at.com, ||fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/fontconfig/devel .cvsignore, 1.43, 1.44 fontconfig.spec, 1.132, 1.133 sources, 1.46, 1.47
Author: behdad Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21244 Modified Files: .cvsignore fontconfig.spec sources Log Message: * Mon June 1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.43 retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -p -r1.43 -r1.44 --- .cvsignore 8 May 2009 20:00:25 - 1.43 +++ .cvsignore 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 - 1.44 @@ -1 +1 @@ -fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508.tar.gz +fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090601.tar.gz Index: fontconfig.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/fontconfig.spec,v retrieving revision 1.132 retrieving revision 1.133 diff -u -p -r1.132 -r1.133 --- fontconfig.spec 8 May 2009 20:00:25 - 1.132 +++ fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 - 1.133 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ Summary: Font configuration and customization library Name: fontconfig -Version: 2.6.99.behdad.20090508 +Version: 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 Release: 1%{?dist} License: MIT Group: System Environment/Libraries @@ -131,6 +131,9 @@ fi %{_mandir}/man3/* %changelog +* Mon June 1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 +- Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 + * Tue May 8 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090508 - Resolves #497984 Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/sources,v retrieving revision 1.46 retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -p -r1.46 -r1.47 --- sources 8 May 2009 20:00:25 - 1.46 +++ sources 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 - 1.47 @@ -1 +1 @@ -8e04b95bfb69a2dba947dd0cfc61b5f0 fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508.tar.gz +03aec10ac95d376ab402e5644196684b fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090601.tar.gz ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/fontconfig/devel fontconfig.spec,1.133,1.134
Author: behdad Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21562 Modified Files: fontconfig.spec Log Message: * Mon Jun 1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 Index: fontconfig.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/fontconfig.spec,v retrieving revision 1.133 retrieving revision 1.134 diff -u -p -r1.133 -r1.134 --- fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 - 1.133 +++ fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:58:15 - 1.134 @@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ fi %{_mandir}/man3/* %changelog -* Mon June 1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 +* Mon Jun 1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 * Tue May 8 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1 ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 458951] [sd-IN] Sindhi language is not identified by fontconfig
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458951 Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Version|rawhide |10 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED CC||pnem...@redhat.com Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #6 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com 2008-11-25 21:45:55 EDT --- This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 10 development cycle. Changing version to '10'. More information and reason for this action is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping --- Comment #7 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com 2009-06-02 01:17:02 EDT --- As Sindhi language translations are not in Fedora yet and this is fixed in rawhide(F11), I think we can close this as RAWHIDE instead to wait for backporting current fontconfig release to F10. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462711 Bug 462711 depends on bug 461139, which changed state. Bug 461139 Summary: Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139 What|Old Value |New Value Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||NOTABUG -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 461139] Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED CC||pnem...@redhat.com Resolution||NOTABUG Flag|needinfo?(440volt@gmail | |.com) | --- Comment #38 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com 2009-06-02 01:27:03 EDT --- Its almost 7 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now. Anyone interested please submit new package review. Subodh, If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit updated package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462711 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag|fedora-review? | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 497090] [bn][bn-IN][as] Invalid addition of Yaphala conjuncts are being rendered
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497090 Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED --- Comment #1 from Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com 2009-06-02 01:27:57 EDT --- IMO, this is not wrong semantically, since a syllable can be composed of any number of Consonant+(Halant+Consonant)n sequences. Although this can be a case of not usable syllables or the syllables that are not used in the given language, it may not qualify as a critical issue to be tweaked in the layout engine. @Amit, can you please mention if this is a bug for Assamese language as well or just an unused syllable? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462711 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED CC||pnem...@redhat.com Resolution||NOTABUG Flag|needinfo?(440volt@gmail | |.com) | --- Comment #8 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com 2009-06-02 01:27:32 EDT --- Its almost 7 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now. Anyone interested please submit new package review. Subodh, If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit updated package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 461139] Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag|fedora-review? | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 466193] Review Request: alee-fonts - Korean TrueType Fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466193 Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED CC||pnem...@redhat.com Resolution||NOTABUG Flag|fedora-review?, | |needinfo?(small...@get9.net | |) | --- Comment #6 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com 2009-06-02 01:30:21 EDT --- Its almost 8 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now. Anyone interested please submit new package review. Smallvil, If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit updated package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
To start work on some project
Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly should be done to start working on project ?? I sent request to the sponsors. Should I wait for their reply ?? Thanks, -- Bhavinkumar G Patel ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: To start work on some project
Hi There, You have to wait and follow the link which is in the admin.fedoraproject.org. Just Go through about all the steps in the link, that would be very userfull. Also see for the ethics need to be followed in the link. Thanks Regards ++Arun On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Bhavinkumar patel patelbhavi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly should be done to start working on project ?? I sent request to the sponsors. Should I wait for their reply ?? Thanks, -- Bhavinkumar G Patel ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Thanks Regards ++ Arunkumar.M Quote: Imagination is more than knowledge Blog: http://greedyunixlinux.blogspot.com/ ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: To start work on some project
On 2009-06-01 12:27:04 AM, Bhavinkumar patel wrote: Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly should be done to start working on project ?? Things in Infrastructure are currently pretty quite since we're in a change freeze right now. We have a ticket tracker at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/1 if there's anything there that you'd be interested in working on. We're also usually on #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net, so feel free to join and say hi. We also have IRC meetings on Thursdays at 20:00 UTC, which is a good way to find ways to start helping out. Thanks, and welcome! Ricky pgpsftUPZXHgC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 19:30 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/6/1 jan sonnek xjanson...@gmail.com: On 01/06/09 00:13, Martín Marqués wrote: Hi all, what's the status for trying to upgrade F10 to F11 using yum- I'm trying to upgrade against the 11-Preview version which is available but crash into some dependencie problems. Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? I have update now, but I am much satisfied. I have removed some dependency packages, PyQT4 etc. Then yum update without some problem. I'm getting these errors, and other too. Try # yum -y --enablerepo=updates-testing update I've yum upgraded 4 F10 boxes to F11 with yum so far. -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
environment variables
Just curious about the best way to manage env var's. I edited /etc/ profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java gets installed? [make...@arrakis ~]$ [make...@arrakis ~]$ [make...@arrakis ~]$ cat /etc/profile # /etc/profile # System wide environment and startup programs, for login setup # Functions and aliases go in /etc/bashrc JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/ pathmunge () { if ! echo $PATH | /bin/egrep -q (^|:)$1($|:) ; then if [ $2 = after ] ; then PATH=$PATH:$1 else PATH=$1:$PATH fi fi } # ksh workaround if [ -z $EUID -a -x /usr/bin/id ]; then EUID=`id -u` UID=`id -ru` fi # Path manipulation if [ $EUID = 0 ]; then pathmunge /sbin pathmunge /usr/sbin pathmunge /usr/local/sbin else pathmunge /usr/local/sbin after pathmunge /usr/sbin after pathmunge /sbin after fi # No core files by default ulimit -S -c 0 /dev/null 21 if [ -x /usr/bin/id ]; then USER=`id -un` LOGNAME=$USER MAIL=/var/spool/mail/$USER fi HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname 2/dev/null` HISTSIZE=1000 export PATH USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME HISTSIZE JAVA_HOME for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do if [ -r $i ]; then if [ $PS1 ]; then . $i else . $i /dev/null 21 fi fi done export PATH unset i unset pathmunge [make...@arrakis ~]$ [make...@arrakis ~]$ env ORBIT_SOCKETDIR=/tmp/orbit-thufir HOSTNAME=arrakis TERM=xterm SHELL=/bin/bash XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=32a9bfc77b4a195b688875bf4a1883ed-1243842275.899648-1364835814 HISTSIZE=1000 GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/thufir/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 WINDOWID=16779001 QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3 QTINC=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include USER=makerpm LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=00;34:ln=00;36:pi=40;33:so=00;35:do=00;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:mi=01;05;37;41:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=00;32:*.tar=00;31:*.tgz=00;31:*.svgz=00;31:*.arj=00;31:*.taz=00;31:*.lzh=00;31:*.lzma=00;31:*.zip=00;31:*.z=00;31:*.Z=00;31:*.dz=00;31:*.gz=00;31:*.bz2=00;31:*.tbz2=00;31:*.bz=00;31:*.tz=00;31:*.deb=00;31:*.rpm=00;31:*.jar=00;31:*.rar=00;31:*.ace=00;31:*.zoo=00;31:*.cpio=00;31:*.7z=00;31:*.rz=00;31:*.jpg=00;35:*.jpeg=00;35:*.gif=00;35:*.bmp=00;35:*.pbm=00;35:*.pgm=00;35:*.ppm=00;35:*.tga=00;35:*.xbm=00;35:*.xpm=00;35:*.tif=00;35:*.tiff=00;35:*.png=00;35:*.mng=00;35:*.pcx=00;35:*.mov=00;35:*.mpg=00;35:*.mpeg=00;35:*.m2v=00;35:*.mkv=00;35:*.ogm=00;35:*.mp4=00;35:*.m4v=00;35:*.mp4v=00;35:*.vob=00;35:*.qt=00;35:*.nuv=00;35:*.wmv=00;35:*.asf=00;35:*.rm=00;35:*.rmvb=00;35:*.flc=00;35:*.avi=00;35:*.fli=00;35:*.gl=00;35:*.dl=00;35:*.xcf=00;35:*.xwd=00;35:*.yuv=00;35:*.svg=00;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;! 36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-RPy3db/ssh GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-RPy3db/socket USERNAME=thufir SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/17658,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE- unix/17658 DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome PATH=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/ bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/thufir/bin MAIL=/var/spool/mail/thufir PWD=/home/makerpm xmodifie...@im=imsettings JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/ KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 GNOME_KEYRING_PID=17655 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 GDM_LANG=en_US.UTF-8 KDEDIRS=/usr GDMSESSION=gnome SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass HOME=/home/makerpm SHLVL=3 GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated LOGNAME=makerpm CVS_RSH=ssh QTLIB=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus- swOenhod2G,guid=437d13456e1c52677517147e4a2386e4 LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s DISPLAY=:0.0 QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/home/thufir/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/ plugins/:/home/makerpm/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/ G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 XAUTHORITY=/home/makerpm/.xauthqUCqV7 COLORTERM=gnome-terminal _=/usr/bin/env OLDPWD=/home/thufir [make...@arrakis ~]$ [make...@arrakis ~]$ -Thufir -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: make libcurl
Ok, that seemed to have worked: [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# rpm -ihv curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:curl-java ### [100%] [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# pwd /home/makerpm/rpmbuild/RPMS/i386 [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# whoami root [r...@arrakis i386]# Now, uh, to use it. I almost forget what I was trying to do in the first place! thanks, Thufir -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk
Sumit Agrawal wrote: I am new for Fedora. I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD. I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk. But while installation it was not detecting USB hard disk. Can anybody help me regarding this issue. Recently i installed a fedora 10 live usb to a 80GB external drive by using the cli livecd-iso-to-disk application. So you should be able to do the same i.e first install a liveusb which is a subset of all fedora packages and after installtion use the dvd as a localrepo to add things. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?
On 05/30/2009 04:49 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: How do you access the security erase facility? All kidding aside, there's a web site from which you can download a little DOS utility to invoke security erase on a drive. The README claims that security erase is better than smashing the drive to bits, though (I suspect) not better then pulling out the platters and blowtorching them till the oxide falls off. URL for the site is: http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Package Installer
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, C Li vishwi...@gmail.com wrote: How can I get package installer to run in a GUI (gnome) as root. I keep getting a message that says You do not have sufficient privileges to run this operation. Use su -c 'gpk-install-local-file x.rpm' or sudo gpk-install-local-file x.rpm, where x.rpm is the rpm you are trying to install. Or, you could try adding your user into the root group. Wrong, sorry. The reason that it's not going to run as root is because unless you've setup PolicyKit to do otherwise, it's not going to work correctly, so gnome-packagekit detects uid 0 and warns you. Running a PackageKit GUI as root is not a good plan at all. With GTK_MODULES a malicious user could silently install software. It's totally insecure. Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
off: So, could it be reality, that the next-generation Linux Distro's e.g.: iptables will Default not ACCEPT, rather then this: iptables -P INPUT DROP iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -P FORWARD DROP iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT + allow ICMP on INPUT because I heard/read that IPv6 relies more on ICMP it could make a good standard firewall (?FIXME) - if anyone puts any server service, than he must know that he must change the INPUT XYZ sorry for just stating these kind of things :D just thinking.. I only seen a few distros, but they policy were default ACCEPT everywhere :O /off -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems: print from evince
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:19 +1000, L wrote: ** (evince:): WARNING **: NOT IMPLEMENTED: We need to prompt for authorization You are using a device URI for a queue which requires authentication, but the authentication details are not present in the URI, like this: smb://workgroup/server/share After the first print job has been delivered, future jobs will require authentication at print submission time and GTK+ does not currently support this. The work-around is to specify the authentication details in the device URI, as has always been necessary in previous Fedora releases. In system-config-printer, click 'Choose...' next to the queue's device URI and select the 'Set authentication details now' radio button. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Cannot set keyboard in Gnome, running via VNC in FC10
Hi I have search for this and find things related but not exactly the same. At least not with recent versions. I have a fresh install of FC10 and have just made an update. I run with runlevel 3. When I start vncserver and log in from a remote client I get an error dialog saying: Error activating XKB configuration. I get the gnome desktop but I am not able to set my keyboard type to Swedish, which is the hw I have. Please advice /Bengt -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com writes: So, could it be reality, that the next-generation Linux Distro's e.g.: iptables will Default not ACCEPT, rather then this: iptables -P INPUT DROP iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -P FORWARD DROP iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT + allow ICMP on INPUT because I heard/read that IPv6 relies more on ICMP it could make a good standard firewall (?FIXME) - if anyone puts any server service, than he must know that he must change the INPUT XYZ This is what f11 does: /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables: # Firewall configuration written by system-config-firewall # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited COMMIT It looks good to me, including the newer wording in system-config-firewall around icmp and ipv6-icmp which discourages clueless admins from blocking icmp's and gumming up the works. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?
Greetings all; I am going to need my laptop again, which has F8 on it, and a network connection. Fired up for first time in most of a year, pup is upgrading 50 packages right now. What's the quickest least typing, way to upgrade it to F10? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp You've got to think about tomorrow! TOMORROW! I haven't even prepared for *_yesterday* yet! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?
I do believe that preupgrade will work...if not, boot directly from the F10 DVD and upgrade that way. At least, that's how I've been doing them. Greetings all; I am going to need my laptop again, which has F8 on it, and a network connection. Fired up for first time in most of a year, pup is upgrading 50 packages right now. What's the quickest least typing, way to upgrade it to F10? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp You've got to think about tomorrow! TOMORROW! I haven't even prepared for *_yesterday* yet! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: site-update-subscr...@bubbanfriends.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Pushing back Time
(Yes, I'm top posting, but it's only to make this point, and to actually, maybe, have it seen) Guys, I doubt that he was trying to troll, in this case. It seemed to me that he was simply pointing out something he thought was humorous. What I suspect is that Chris is not subscribed to the fedora-announce-list, and hasn't necessarily seen the announcements that the date was slipping by a week or more, due to the fixes, etc. So, maybe we should cut him a little slack? On 5/29/2009 8:08 PM, Chris wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400 David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote: On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: Greetings, Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in the wrong direction. For example, a few days ago it said 7 days. Tonight, we're at 11. Might I suggest the tag line say something like: It will be release when it's released. If you had any idea of what is happening behind the screens. If you had any idea of what the developers are doing. Working on. Fixing. trying to make this a good, no great, release, you would troll your way out of here. Bye troll. *shrug* Gee... You mean that you want them to release a 'maybe bad - don't work for a lot of users' release' just so you can have the 'latest and the greatest'? *WOW!!!* Which just might not, maybe, wont work for you and many others?? Or would you prefer, what most of us would prefer, that they present a release that at least works for most? And has promise to work for those that it does not with a tweak or two?? Crawl back under the bridge Troll. Not a troll? Really Then shut the hell up about schedules that slide for the better of the the masses. Here's an idea! You want Fedora 11 *RIGHT NOW*? Download the last RC. Install it. And then update it. *PING*! You got it! Then? The bridge is that way. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: site-update-subscr...@bubbanfriends.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netbooks
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: The top bar seems to be an impenetrable barrier. Once the top of the dialog box hits it, it stops you from moving the box any higher. That sounds like a bug in Metacity. KWin allows you to move things off-screen just fine. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Graphics card recommendation?
I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: 1. Cheap 2. TL capability 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. [This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard. I need the TL feature for my grand-daughter to play Sims-2 under Windows XP.] Any and all suggestions gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Package Installer
Richard Hughes wrote: Wrong, sorry. The reason that it's not going to run as root is because unless you've setup PolicyKit to do otherwise s/setup/patched and rebuilt/ PolicyKit is hardcoded to reject root, for no good reason. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447266 It works perfectly fine as root when this useless check is removed (though it will prompt even root for authentication unless you change the policies to blanket allow root to do everything), so I have no idea why the check is even there. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: 2. TL capability Nope, sorry, I can't figure out what this means. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
jan sonnek wrote: Then yum update without some problem. If you had F10 updates enabled, you also need to enable F11 updates. If you had F10 updates-testing enabled, you also need to enable F11 updates-testing. As for VirtualBox, that's a third-party RPM, you'll have to remove it before upgrading and install a version built for F11 after the upgrade. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: TL capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic you can't run this game because... error which has been pasted verbatim. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Skype under Fedora-10
Is there a Skype HOWTO or FAQ for Fedora-10? I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. Incidentally, is there any alternative to Skype that works under Linux and Windows XP? As far as I can see, the latest version of Skype for Fedora is called skype...fc5, even though it is in the directory called Fedora 6-7 on the Skype web-site (www.skype.com). -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Boxbe refusing email, what gives ??
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 11:51 -0400, Jim wrote: Does anyone know what this means DKIM and SPF authentication. Jim Both are easily found in a Google search. I received your email about Fwd: [Fwd: Fw: Two Presidents Meet the Marines], but your message failed DKIM or SPF authentication. In the future, more email servers may reject messages that fail authentication. You may want to contact your network administrator to fix this issue. Thank you, About this Notice This courtesy notice is part of a free service to make email more reliable and useful. Boxbe (www.boxbe.com) uses your existing social network and that of your friends to keep your inbox clean and make sure you receive email from people who matter to you. Boxbe Say Goodbye to Email Overload www.boxbe.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- === Before I knew the best part of my life had come, it had gone. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: environment variables
Thufir wrote: Just curious about the best way to manage env var's. I edited /etc/ profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java gets installed? A better way is to add files to /etc/profile.d - you can use the ones there as examples. The ones with ending in .csh are used if you are using a c type shell, (csh, tcsh, etc) and the ones ending in .sh are for sh type shells. (sh, bash, zsh, etc) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Ekiga is an open-source voice chat solution. However, it does not use the Skype network. There is also Empathy, which supports voice chat and can do basic IM functions, like Pidgin. I have not used either of these, so consumer beware. I would give Empathy a shot first; Fedora and Ubuntu have considered replacing Pidgin with Empathy before (try googling ubuntu pidgin usability), whereas Ekiga seems to be more voice-only. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone know where this firmware is. I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the box. Anyway, take a look at http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl which will take you to: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box. I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it would not install in /lib64/firmware. I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed. The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ? I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link. 1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/ 2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb' 2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. Here driver is p54. I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part. HTH PS: I am on x86_64 too $uname -r 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64 I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems. Do you know what this means? p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 Here is my dmesg and lsmod Dmesg usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392 phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9 phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:25 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: RS wrote: I just finished installing and configuring skype on F11 Pre. Get the static tar.bz2 file and untar. when you run the skype executable. it will complain about a bunch of missing .so files. INstall one by one and you can then launch skype. You may have to try a few tricks to get the audio working properly since skype is coded for ALSA. PLay around with the Sound Devices config in Skype's Options Menu.. But does this get you a newer (or better) version that the RPM file from the Skype repository? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin My About menu shows 2.0.72 - which is the latest for Linux I believe... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?
On Monday 01 June 2009, Mike Burger wrote: I do believe that preupgrade will work...if not, boot directly from the F10 DVD and upgrade that way. At least, that's how I've been doing them. Ok, that is installing via yum, whats next? Reboot? I has tried to build fmit on the F8 it has, but the configure script bails out when it couldn't find libasound, and that seems to be made out of unobtainium for F8. Can fmit be brought into F11? Its a handy instrument tuner tool for musicians. Thanks -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp The Avis WIZARD decides if you get to drive a car. Your head won't touch the pillow of a Sheraton unless their computer says it's okay. -- Arthur Miller -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
2009/6/1 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: 2009/6/1 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be, download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886' and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
I forgot to tell you that in menuconfig M Prism54 USB Support(So it is enabled in Kernel) On 06/01/2009 12:15 PM, Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone know where this firmware is. I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the box. Anyway, take a look at http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl which will take you to: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box. I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it would not install in /lib64/firmware. I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed. The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ? I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link. 1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/ 2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb' 2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. Here driver is p54. I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part. HTH PS: I am on x86_64 too $uname -r 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64 I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems. Do you know what this means? p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 Here is my dmesg and lsmod Dmesg usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392 phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9 phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10. That sucks. Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use the machine. It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire. But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs. This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install build it? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :( -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Forest fires cause Smokey Bears. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problem with my laptop
On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 13:10 -0400, Nebur Álvarez B. wrote: hi!, before, my english is not very well, i'm sorry. i have a problem with my laptop (sony vaio vgn-nr330fe), when I execute many process, fails gnome and kde, and them does nothing when i try do click in anywhere place. I try find the error, but, I nothing found I am mindful of your comments best regards I saw that several people replied with some information. Did you check the log files? When the system next comes up, check the system logs to see what information they provide. Look at ApplicationsSystem ToolsSystem Log It may provide some useful information. Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 suvayu alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: 2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net: Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be, download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886' and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate. GL But the device I have is a WUSB54G is a USB device. The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is the isl3886usb but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb Am I missing something here ? Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't this firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
Jim wrote: But the device I have is a WUSB54G is a USB device. The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is the isl3886usb but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb Am I missing something here ? Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't this firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ? Only if the firmware is 64-bit firmware. Is your USB device 64-bit? Firmware runs on your device , not on your host CPU. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
2009/6/1 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone know where this firmware is. I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the box. Anyway, take a look at http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl which will take you to: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box. I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it would not install in /lib64/firmware. I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed. The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ? I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link. 1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/ 2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb' 2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. Here driver is p54. I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part. HTH PS: I am on x86_64 too $uname -r 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64 I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems. Do you know what this means? p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 Here is my dmesg and lsmod Dmesg usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392 phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9 phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb # dmesg|grep firmware firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54: LM86 firmware # dmesg|grep prism usbcore: registered new interface driver prism54usb Loaded prism54 driver, version 1.2 This is my output from dmesg. Its rather odd that in your case the kernel is looking for two different firmwares for the same device. Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices However filtering the complete device list for Linksys gives me a list where it is included. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB?dbw.devices.submit=filterdbw.devices.filter0=[all]dbw.devices.filter1=Linksysdbw.devices.filter3=[all]dbw.devices.filter4=[all] Are you sure you have the correct model *name* *and* *revision* for the adapter? If you have that correct then the next step would be to check the settings in menuconfig. This is what you should see when you search for prism after running make menuconfig. │ Symbol: PRISM54 [=m] │ Prompt: Intersil Prism GT/Duette/Indigo PCI/Cardbus │ Defined at drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig:496 │ Depends on: NETDEVICES !S390 PCI EXPERIMENTAL WLAN_80211 │ Location: │ - Device Drivers │ - Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y]) │ - Wireless LAN │ - Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11) (WLAN_80211 [=y]) │ Selects: WIRELESS_EXT FW_LOADER After that is verified, try 'modprobe prism54'. I was quoting from memory in my last email and had erroneously said p54. If all of this doesn't work, I am out of ideas. I am very new to linux myself. :P GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
ravi2boxster wrote: My About menu shows 2.0.72 - which is the latest for Linux I believe... The following guide still works for F10 I believe - not sure about F11 yet though? http://fedorasolved.org/multimedia-solutions/installing-skype -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Skype-under-Fedora-10-tp23815854p23819394.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
On 06/01/2009 12:51 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net: On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone know where this firmware is. I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the box. Anyway, take a look at http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl which will take you to: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box. I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it would not install in /lib64/firmware. I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed. The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ? I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link. 1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/ 2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb' 2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobedriver. Here driver is p54. I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part. HTH PS: I am on x86_64 too $uname -r 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64 I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems. Do you know what this means? p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 Here is my dmesg and lsmod Dmesg usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392 phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9 phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb # dmesg|grep firmware firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54: LM86 firmware # dmesg|grep prism usbcore: registered new interface driver prism54usb Loaded prism54 driver, version 1.2 This is my output from dmesg. Its rather odd that in your case the kernel is looking for two different firmwares for the same device. Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices However filtering the complete device list for Linksys gives me a list where it is included. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB?dbw.devices.submit=filterdbw.devices.filter0=[all]dbw.devices.filter1=Linksysdbw.devices.filter3=[all]dbw.devices.filter4=[all] Are you sure you have the correct model *name* *and* *revision* for the adapter? If you have that correct then the next step would be to check the settings in menuconfig. This is what you should see when you search for prism after running make menuconfig. │ Symbol: PRISM54 [=m] │ Prompt: Intersil Prism GT/Duette/Indigo PCI/Cardbus │ Defined at drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig:496 │ Depends on: NETDEVICES !S390 PCI EXPERIMENTAL WLAN_80211 │ Location: │ - Device Drivers │ - Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y]) │ - Wireless LAN │ - Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11) (WLAN_80211 [=y]) │ Selects: WIRELESS_EXT FW_LOADER After that is verified, try 'modprobe prism54'. I was quoting from memory in my last email and had erroneously said p54. If all of this doesn't work, I am out of ideas. I am very new to linux myself. :P GL You maybe right about my device. 1915:2234 ( the 2234 is compatible) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk
Sumit Agrawal wrote: I am new for Fedora. I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD. I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk. But while installation it was not detecting USB hard disk. Can anybody help me regarding this issue. Recently i installed a fedora 10 live usb to a 80GB external drive by using the cli livecd-iso-to-disk application. So you should be able to do the same i.e first install a liveusb which is a subset of all fedora packages and after installtion use the dvd as a localrepo to add things. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:27:37 Andras Simon wrote: On 5/28/09, Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote: Another example from my experience: I bought a Creative webcam on impulse (it was very cheap, found it on Slickdeals). Plug it in - no dice. Search for the drivers - nothing. Some similar models are supported, but not this one (different chipset, I think, was the problem). Creative has open source page for this webcam (http://tinyurl.com/m72oq3). I'll even save you the trouble of going to that page: status is pending and there's no link to any sources. So what, I'm supposed to write a driver myself? No. Just stop impulse buying stuff. Not always easy. I printed out the whole list of known-to-work webcams, and couldn't find one of them in the store. No box ever tells you what chipset is being used. In the end I bought a cheap own-brand webcam. To my surprise it worked with the gspca driver! Then you have to find application software to use the camera. I have been using xawtv to record off the webcam, but it needs a font from some unavailable package. I loaded all the fonts which are on my FC10 partition to FC11, and no go. I really want a cli application, but that's another issue, I'm back to FC10 for now. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: self-signed certificates (was Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...)
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:08:08 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200...@gmail.com wrote: As for the man-in-the-middle attack, I'd imagine the biggest usage case is an eavesdropped-in-the-middle and not someone that was able to break the data stream and insert themselves. Having an encrypted channel with a slightly nebulous endpoint is still better than having an unencrypted channel. For average Joes, the most common problem is going to be that their machine is compromized. Extra security of https over http for them is barely a blip. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to said: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:26:17 -0500, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: HTTPS with an unknown self-signed cert is barely any more secure than unencrypted HTTP, since a man-in-the-middle attack could just be replacing the cert and decrypting all communications. No it is a much harder attack than snooping. To do man in the middle you need to be able to take packets out of the stream and redirect them. This needs to be done in real time and if you guess wrong about whether the other end knows what the certificate is, people are going to notice you doing it. ISTR if you can snoop you can hijack the TCP session setup by responding first (aren't out-of-window packets ignored?). You don't have to cause the real responses to be dropped, you just have to respond faster. And be sure to note that certificate signed by RSA, Thawte or whoever doesn't equate to secure either. Unless you have verified the end certificate yourself you don't know that the organization on the other end is who you really mean to be talking to. You are trusting that the CAs have done the verification, which they do (to differing degrees). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There is no Fedora 11 release. Yet. And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure out what you just described as not obvious. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote: True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet (or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years old, there are always drivers for it. Nope. From time to time there have been windows releases where the old drivers would not work, and no new ones were written. I had a SCSI Black Widow scanner that had to be thrown for just that reason. Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm not going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing out an expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of only Linux on my systems. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: TL capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic you can't run this game because... error which has been pasted verbatim. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22 Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:23 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have never had to copy stuff from one to another. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10. That sucks. Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use the machine. It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire. But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs. This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install build it? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :( For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
2009/6/1 David dgbo...@comcast.net: For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. Is rawhide frozen till after F11 is released? Just want to be sure I'm not upgrading to something over F11. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mistake about double posting [was:[Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk]]
apparently i forgot to edit my account option to send me an acknowledgement mail when i post to this list and so i double posted.Sorry about the mistake. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't want to have to use crappy buggy proprietary drivers which weren't even written for my operating system! Ndiscrapper (misspelling intentional) is a problem, not a solution. Are you saying if I scrap ndiswrapper you will write a driver? I'll give you a list of hardware, if you have some time. Buy a supported printer! (I recommend HP models supported by HPLIP without the binary plugin. Most HP printers are, but check the compatibility list to be sure.) If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux, and be cost justified. You are mixing religious zeal with affordability, or something. It's something you can practice for personal use (donate to the cause of your choice), or if your employer will buy what you want. If I have to buy it out of my business budget, or get someone to pay for it, there needs to be a compelling business reason. I don't disagree with your point, but it's not an option for many users. And if I get someone using Linux with ndiswrapper it's easier to influence new hardware buys. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There is no Fedora 11 release. Yet. And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure out what you just described as not obvious. Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade screen? -- David -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp The most important thing in a man is not what he knows, but what he is. -- Narciso Yepes -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
2009/6/1 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: 1. Cheap There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. 2. TL capability I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently available will have this, and be able to run Sims 2. I'd ask the shop salesperson if you can test the card. 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open source drivers to the community. Currently new RadeonHD cards will work quite nicely, but especially on Fedora 10 there is little hardware acceleration offered. At least for my Radeon HD3650, Fedora 11 provides some 2D hardware acceleration, and 3D OpenGL acceleration is also in the works. With Nvidia cards, you will be able to get pixels to the screen and probably get the correct resolution for your screen, but AFAIK, especially open source 3D acceleration is much less complete for Nvidia cards than for Amd/Ati or Intel devices, due to Nvidia refusing to release any specifications that would help the community to build open source drivers for themselves. For both Nvidia and AMD/Ati, there is also an official closed source driver available. Nvidia's one is often considered to be better of these. If 3D performance on Fedora is important to you right now, Nvidia may be the best choice. Your choice depends a lot on what you want from your card on Fedora. -- Joonas Sarajärvi mue...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade screen? .. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it from being a reliable method to upgrade to Fedora 10. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rhythmbox software is lacking
I don't know about F10 and F11 but of F9 rhythmbox is the only CD reading software that refuses to load CD information like a playlist. Can someone explain how to make it work properly.? -- === Don't look now, but the man in the moon is laughing at you. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10. That sucks. Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use the machine. It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire. But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs. This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install build it? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :( For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. -- David That was my point, David. F9 or F10 is not being presented as an option in preupgrade, the only thing you can do is check the box for bleeding edge and chose rawhide. That has a very high vacuum rating IMO. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Flugg's Law: When you need to knock on wood is when you realize that the world is composed of vinyl, naugahyde and aluminum. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
David wrote: For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. Not long after Fedora 10 was released, I did an upgrade from Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 with no problems. But I did not have an option to upgrade to Fedora 9. Mike -- I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Monday 01 June 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade screen? .. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it from being a reliable method to upgrade to Fedora 10. Rahul From an uptodate F8 install? This pix is still blurry... -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. -- Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: TL capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic you can't run this game because... error which has been pasted verbatim. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22 Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it. As the OP, I had never heard of TL and am certainly no gamer, but that is what the error log complains of. As far as I can see, it is a standard acronym, and it would be as odd to call it Texture and Lighting as it would be to call PCI whatever PCI stands for. Which reminds me - apparently there is a second hurdle I have to get over, which is to distinguish between PCI and PCI-E. I think the Asus K8V-MX motherboard I am concerned with provides PCI slots, not PCI-E. Also there is something about AGP, but I'm not sure how significant that is, or if it is universal nowadays. Graphics cards are much more complicated than I thought. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: 1. Cheap There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. 2. TL capability I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently available will have this, and be able to run Sims 2. I'd ask the shop salesperson if you can test the card. 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open source drivers to the community. Currently new RadeonHD cards will work quite nicely, but especially on Fedora 10 there is little hardware acceleration offered. At least for my Radeon HD3650, Fedora 11 provides some 2D hardware acceleration, and 3D OpenGL acceleration is also in the works. Your choice depends a lot on what you want from your card on Fedora. Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode, my needs are minimal. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
Michael Fleming wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009 23:38:52 +0200 Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I just want to ask one big question :) If I would have an IPv6 address [home pc, behind a router - supporting ipv6 e.g.: openwrt, ISP gives ipv6], then I can see an IPv6 address with ifconfig, on the PC e.g.: Z So that's my very unique address. - Z Can that be seen on the internet, the Z address? so anyone can ping me from outside, or do an nmap? Yes, if the IPv6 address has a global prefix (2001:: 2002:: etc) - fe80:: etc are link local addresses and are site specific - they won't be available to the wider Internet. I have a related question. If I set up a tunnel to forward IPv6 thru IPv4, the existing setups seem to use part of my IPv4 address as part of the IPv6 address. Fair enough, but is there some way to get a permanent IPv6 allocation, such that if my primary ISP goes out for any reason, I can use my secondary instead? I'd like to set up some servers on VMs in my DMZ[1] for testing. Or are there private addresses what the router gives to my pc.: eg.: with ipv4 a router could give 192.168.1.10... and that IP couldn't be pinged/nmapped from outside (More Secure???) Because I heard that there will be no NAT with IPv6? There's no NAT in IPv6, at least in the traditional IPv4 way. If you're only getting fe80:: et. al addresses (the link-local addresses as above) you should be fine however. What will happen to e.g.: a windows xp pc using IPv6? The C$, D$ shares will be visible to anyone if they know the password? sorry for the trivial question... :S :) and thank you for any answer If the host isn't firewalled and has globally routed IPv6 allocations then yes they would be available (they'd need to know Administrator passwords for the admin shares above though) [1] DMZ is setup like this: Internet--(firewall)--[DMZ network, public servers]--(firewall)--pvt_net -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode, my needs are minimal. In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for most boards). Even though the Nvidia reverse engineered 2D driver has no 3D support and is a bit patchy for render and fancy effects but quite solid for plain old fashioned 2D rectangles. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have never had to copy stuff from one to another. I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in as the other user, again under Windows. I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: TL capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic you can't run this game because... error which has been pasted verbatim. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22 Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it. As the OP, I had never heard of TL and am certainly no gamer, but that is what the error log complains of. As far as I can see, it is a standard acronym, and it would be as odd to call it Texture and Lighting as it would be to call PCI whatever PCI stands for. Which reminds me - apparently there is a second hurdle I have to get over, which is to distinguish between PCI and PCI-E. I think the Asus K8V-MX motherboard I am concerned with provides PCI slots, not PCI-E. Try dmidecode | grep -i pci and see. PCI Express = PCI-E. My M3N78-VM has both: [r...@hamster ~]# dmidecode | grep -i pci PCI is supported Designation: PCIEX1 Type: 32-bit PCI Express Designation: PCIEX16 Type: 32-bit PCI Express Designation: PCI1 Type: 32-bit PCI Designation: PCI2 Type: 32-bit PCI Also there is something about AGP, but I'm not sure how significant that is, or if it is universal nowadays. A lot of video cards plug into AGP slots. dmidecode can tell you. Graphics cards are much more complicated than I thought. Heheheheh! Amen, bruddah! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On 6/1/2009 3:11 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/6/1 David dgbo...@comcast.net: For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. Is rawhide frozen till after F11 is released? Just want to be sure I'm not upgrading to something over F11. If you have been using Rawhide, from the Fedora 11 RC or 'by hand' what you have will be Fedora 11, technically already is, when Fedora 11 is released. It takes a configuration change, done on purpose by the user, to stay with Rawhide. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
David wrote: Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There is no Fedora 11 release. Yet. And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure out what you just described as not obvious. I suggest that if you are giving advice you should say as clearly and as fully as possible what the user needs to do, regardless of your opinion of their intelligence. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
Jim wrote: On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 suvayu alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: 2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net: Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be, download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886' and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate. GL But the device I have is a WUSB54G is a USB device. The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is the isl3886usb but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb Am I missing something here ? Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't this firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ? Firmware has nothing to do with the OS or mode of the CPU, it runs in the device. /lib/firmware does it. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blocking an IP for one user
Paul wrote: Hi, My son is getting to that funny age whereby I need to keep certain sites away from him. Is there any way that I can block an IP address or certain keywords from his user settings so that it doesn't matter which browser he uses, he can't access them? For example, I want to block the BBC websites wholesale or anything with the words Microsoft, MSN or Hotmail in the URL - you get the idea - but also an IP range such as 172.168.*.* You can add one line to iptables to log every outgoing TCP connect at the sync level, and then just browse the list in the log. Knowing you are doing this will help him learn about anonymous redirection networks, proxies, etc. It is unlikely that you will keep him in check unless you simply block everything except pure content. If you block the BBC don't let him read the papers either, they report on sex and senseless violence. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Are you using LXDE?
Hi, Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE. How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it? Would you find a Fedora LXDE Live CD useful? Would it still be useful if it was a combined Xfce + LXDE Live CD? Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have never had to copy stuff from one to another. I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in as the other user, again under Windows. I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully. Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your contacts. HTH -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 22:31 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have never had to copy stuff from one to another. I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in as the other user, again under Windows. I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully. We appear to be speaking at cross purposes. I don't understand what you mean by Backup my contacts list and restore the file. Didn't you try simply logging into Skype on the second machine, without copying anything? To repeat, that's all I've ever had to do and all my contacts just follow me around. I've done this on Linux, MacOS and Windows. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your contacts. Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype accounts, not merely a new system user who uses the same Skype account. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Are you using LXDE?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: Hi, Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE. How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it? Would you find a Fedora LXDE Live CD useful? Would it still be useful if it was a combined Xfce + LXDE Live CD? Rahul I've just started using it on my EEEPC 701 because many of the gnome configuration screens don't work well with 480 vertical resolution. Also, it's a little more snappy. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Jud Craft wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your contacts. Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype accounts, not merely a new system user who uses the same Skype account. I don't think that would be possible by just copying over a file locally. The contacts have to be present on their servers associated with the new account. Having it locally wouldn't be enough. Isn't that correct? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. How to use PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade This will take a while. A long while. Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases and then choose Rawhide, why not say this? And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10. That sucks. Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use the machine. It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire. But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs. This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install build it? It may be obvious to you, but would not be to many Fedora users. Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :( For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems. Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide. -- David That was my point, David. F9 or F10 is not being presented as an option in preupgrade, the only thing you can do is check the box for bleeding edge and chose rawhide. That has a very high vacuum rating IMO. Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. F8 repo via yumex. The Fedora 9 that I started with Saturday came with preupgrade. I clean installed Fedora 9 and did updates to current. When I ran preupgrade, in Fedora 9, I was offered Fedora 10 or, by checking the box, Rawhide (to be Fedora 11). Since the Fedora 10 was up-to-date it's preupgrade offered 'nothing' except the check box that get 'Rawhide'. There was a bug for some, IIRC, with preupgrade in Fedora 9 to Fedora 10. Some but not all. Fedora would never 'force' you to use Rawhide. Although it kicks the poo, IMO, out of Fedora 10. Many changes and improvements. I run Rawhide all of the time anyway. -- David -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp I got this powdered water -- now I don't know what to add. -- Steven Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
FC10 How do you treat a l3886usb.arm firmware package in Fedora. How do you install it into /lib/firmware ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Bill Davidsen wrote: Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm not going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing out an expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of only Linux on my systems. There are really cheap scanners or multifunction printers now, and chances are they'll work better and provide a higher resolution than your old model even if you payed a lot for it at the time. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Bill Davidsen wrote: If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux, and be cost justified. You shouldn't have bought hardware not supported by GNU/Linux in the first place. Now you blame others for being unable to fix your or your clients' screwups. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
Gene Heskett wrote: Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? F8's preupgrade is extremely buggy and out of date. (It was beta at the time, F9 is the first release where it's really usable.) But it will not get fixed as F8 is no longer supported. You should have already upgraded. I'd suggest just using another upgrade method. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines