Fedora Weekly News 178

2009-06-01 Thread Pascal Calarco

Fedora Weekly News Issue 178

Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 178[1] for the week ending May 31st, 
2009.


We have a couple changes of note this week. Oisin Feeley, who has been 
on the editorial team for FWN and writer for the Development section, is 
leaving FWN for an extended time period due to other commitments. We 
will miss him and hope to have him back at some time. Adam Williamson, 
who currently also writes the wonderful QA beat, joins the editorial 
team at FWN -- welcome Adam!


This week's issue starts off with some poetry on next week's expected 
Fedora 11 release, and much activity on upcoming Fedora activity days, 
dev cons, and events. In news from the Fedora Planet, we learn about 
SELinux sandbox, an overview on virtualization features in F11, several 
musings on aspects of open source projects/communities, and a feature 
interview with Fedora Project leader Paul W. Frields. The Quality 
Assurance beat details the QA weekly meeting leading up to F11 next 
week, F11 FAQ work, and release candidate testing detail. Development 
asks whether gNaughty is indeed a Hot Babe, detail on getting graphics 
support working for the Fedora Live USB with the Chrome9 Vx800 GPU, and 
suggestions on upgrading to F11 via yum. In Translation news, upcoming 
F11 website translation details and a new member of the Romanian 
translation team. This issue is rounded out with an overview of the 
security advisories for Fedora 9 and 10 this past week. Enjoy this issue 
and get ready for Fedora 11 a week from tomorrow!


If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see 
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FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson

   1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue178
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-- Announcements --

In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3].

Contributing Writer: Max Spevack

   1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/
   2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/
   3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events

--- Fedora 11 (Leonidas) ---

This week's Fedora 11 announcements come with apologies to William 
Butler Yeats[1].


Somewhere in the build systems of Fedora,
A shape with lion body and the name of a Greek king,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the impatient downloaders.
The schedule slips again[2]; but now I know
That 6 months of stony sleep
Were vexed to release by Jesse Keating,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards June 9th to be born?

   1. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming
   2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00011.html


--- Fedora Board ---

The Fedora Board's next public IRC meeting will be held on Thursday June 
4th, at 1700 UTC[1].


Join[2] #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation, and join 
#fedora-board-questions to discuss topics and post questions.


   1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00010.html

   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC

--- FUDCons and FADs ---

This section previews upcoming Fedora Users  Developers Conferences, as 
well as upcoming Fedora Activity Days.

-- Fedora Activity Days: Malaysia and Rheinfelden

At press time, two Fedora Activity Days[1] were wrapping up, one in 
Malaysia[2] and one in Germany[3] for more information. See Max 
Spevack's blog[4] for more information.


   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Malaysia_May_2009
   3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Rheinfelden
   4. http://spevack.livejournal.com/81179.html

--- Fedora Activity Day: Development Cycle ---

In North America, Jesse Keating announced[1] an upcoming Fedora Activity 
Day[2] for maintainers, QA, and release engineering folks to meet and 
discuss ongoing issues with the Fedora Development Cycle and to create a 
proposal on how to fix many of the issues. Note, this is not an event to 
decide on a solution, it is an event to decide on a proposal, which will 
then be shared with the whole community for more input and work.


   1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00012.html
   2. 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle_2009


 FUDCon Porto Alegre 2009 

FUDCon Porto Alegre[1] will take place June 24-27 in Brazil. About 30 
people have signed up so far, and we're hopeful for an attendance of 
over 100.


If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page.

   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:LATAM_2009

 FUDCon Berlin 2009 

FUDCon Berlin[1] will be held from June 26-28, and we're got almost 120 
people pre-registered for the event.


If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page.

   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009

--- Upcoming Events 

No child processes

2009-06-01 Thread lixiao-a
I have copied four virtual machines to the server from my PC,but it shows this 
error.425 build (dist-kylin, system-config-network-1.3.99-TJ.src.rpm): open 
(kojid) - FAILED: Fault: Fault 1: 'Traceback (most recent call last):\n  File 
/usr/sbin/kojid, line 1275, in runTask\nresponse = (handler.run(),)\n  
File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 1351, in run\nreturn 
self.handler(*self.params,**self.opts)\n  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 2009, in 
handler\nbroot.init()\n  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 467, in init\nrv 
= self.mock([\'--init\'])\n  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 389, in mock\n
status = os.waitpid(pid, os.WNOHANG)\nOSError: [Errno 10] No child 
processes\n'Please help me.
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Re: No child processes

2009-06-01 Thread Mike McLean

lixiao-a wrote:

  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 2009, in handler
broot.init()\n  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 467, in init
rv = self.mock([\'--init\'])\n  File /usr/sbin/kojid, line 389, in mock
status = os.waitpid(pid, os.WNOHANG)
OSError: [Errno 10] No child processes\n'


It looks like the mock subprocess is dying before kojid can wait on it. 
Normally mock should never exit that fast, though we should probably 
handle that error a little more informatively.


Try running mock manually on your build system to see if you can 
replicate the error that way. You might also try running kojid in the 
foreground (--fg option) in order to see the output from mock.


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Re: How to remove the large directory after build ?

2009-06-01 Thread 李建
Now ,the directory is:
-
[r...@localhost mock]# du -hs *
651Mgtes11.2-build-10-9
18M gtes11.2-build-13-10
5.6Mgtes11.2-build-15-15
549Mgtes11.2-build-1-6
5.5Mgtes11.2-build-16-15
18M gtes11.2-build-18-18
18M gtes11.2-build-19-18
579Mgtes11.2-build-21-20
560Mgtes11.2-build-22-20
3.5Ggtes11.2-build-23-26
548Mgtes11.2-build-2-6
567Mgtes11.2-build-3-6
583Mgtes11.2-build-5-9
562Mgtes11.2-build-6-9
670Mgtes11.2-build-9-9
6.2Mgtes11.3-build-24-28
6.1Mgtes11.3-build-25-28
637Mgtes11.3-build-26-30
609Mgtes11.3-build-28-30
3.5Ggtes11.3-build-30-30
3.0Ggtes11.3-build-31-30
1.8Ggtes11.3-build-32-32
1.8Ggtes11.3-build-34-32
583Mgtes11.3-build-35-33
562Mgtes11.3-build-37-33
888Mgtes11.3-build-39-34
852Mgtes11.3-build-40-34
408Mmoblin2-build-41-38
417Mmoblin2-build-42-39
539Mmoblin2-build-43-39
==


My builder is ok:

[r...@localhost mock]# koji list-hosts
Hostname Enb Rdy Load/Cap Arches   Last Update
kojibuilder1 N   N0.0/2.0 i386,x86_64  2009-05-25
19:08:25
kojibuilder2 Y   Y0.0/2.0 ia64 2009-05-29
14:18:59
kojibuilder3 Y   Y0.0/2.0 x86_64,i386  2009-06-02
10:09:00
==

Why ? Because I use a special disk space,and I use Selinux, So I modified
the /var/lib/mock to /dist/mock on kojihub and kojiweb and kojibuilder3
host. but the kojibuilder2's mock directory is /var/lib/mock ,a link to
/dist/mock on it's host.

the kojihub and kojiweb and kojibuilder3's /mnt/koji directory is modified
to /data/koji also . but the other kojibuilder*'s directory is /mnt/koji by
nfs mount.

Why ? It isn't change or removed after 1 days.

Thanks!


2009/6/1 Mike Bonnet mi...@redhat.com

 李建 wrote:

 Hello,everybody!

 My koji server has setup ok. but the mock dir is more and more large. How
 to
 remove it ?
 I mean if koji has this feature,I doesn't to do it myself. Is anyone can
 help me ?

 my mock directory info :
 
 651Mgtes11.2-build-10-9
 18M gtes11.2-build-13-10
 5.6Mgtes11.2-build-15-15
 549Mgtes11.2-build-1-6
 5.5Mgtes11.2-build-16-15
 18M gtes11.2-build-18-18
 18M gtes11.2-build-19-18
 579Mgtes11.2-build-21-20
 560Mgtes11.2-build-22-20
 3.5Ggtes11.2-build-23-26
 548Mgtes11.2-build-2-6
 567Mgtes11.2-build-3-6
 583Mgtes11.2-build-5-9
 562Mgtes11.2-build-6-9
 670Mgtes11.2-build-9-9
 6.2Mgtes11.3-build-24-28
 6.1Mgtes11.3-build-25-28
 637Mgtes11.3-build-26-30
 609Mgtes11.3-build-28-30
 3.5Ggtes11.3-build-30-30
 3.0Ggtes11.3-build-31-30
 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-32-32
 1.8Ggtes11.3-build-34-32
 583Mgtes11.3-build-35-33
 562Mgtes11.3-build-37-33
 888Mgtes11.3-build-39-34
 852Mgtes11.3-build-40-34
 408Mmoblin2-build-41-38
 417Mmoblin2-build-42-39
 ==


 kojid manages the cleanup up the /var/lib/mock directory for builds it
 runs.  Buildroots for successful builds will be cleaned up almost
 immediately.  Buildroots for unsuccessful builds will be cleaned up after 4
 hours, to give you a chance to debug the failure or copy relevant data out
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Re: Unbootable machine

2009-06-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Hello Peter  Jeremy,
 
 I've found an ordinary desktop PC (with Phoenix Award BIOS 6.00PG) that
 won't boot off a USB stick created by livecd-tools-024 with syslinux
 (tested both versions 3.75 and 3.81).
 
 The boot process drops to the boot: prompt with an error message:
 
   could not find kernel image: linux
 
 The same USB stick boots fine on any other computer I could find.
 Does it seem like a syslinux bug?  And if turns out to be a known BIOS
 bug, is there a good workaround?
 

I need much more details; *all* Award BIOSes make in the past 10-12
years have version number 6.00PG.

Also look for how you have configured your BIOS... some Award BIOSes
have USB-ZIP, USB-HDD, USB-FDD configurations; you generally want USB-HDD.

There are some BIOSes which will boot from USB *only* if it was
formatted with 64 heads, 32 sectors; apparently due to some odd notion
that only zipdrives would be USB.

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Fedora bittorrent tracker?

2009-06-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones

Do we offer a bittorrent tracker that FAS / fp.org users can use to
host their own bittorrent content?

(Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content)

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Re: RPM Soft dependencies (Was: Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting)

2009-06-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:
 
 Of course, it can't know why you installed them or even if something
 outside of its scope (e.g. a program you compiled manually) still
 needs one of those.

IMHHHO, this is the first thing to address to get a reasonable behavior.

Every installed rpm on the system should be marked with a
bit wanted by the user.


Current systems just need a way to manually flag the packages
already installed.
I need firefox, not glibc, not libjpg. If I remove firefox and
thunderbird and all the other stuff, libjpg can be removed too,
from the point of view of the user.

It is somewhat annoying when one installs a package which drags
10 dependencies, then removes the package and there is no
easy way to cleanup all the libs and additional stuff.

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Re: Fedora bittorrent tracker?

2009-06-01 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-06-01 09:53:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 Do we offer a bittorrent tracker that FAS / fp.org users can use to
 host their own bittorrent content?
 
 (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content)
You can always make a request to Infrastructure at
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/.  We've hosted some
Fedora-related things there before.  No idea if we have any sort of
policy on what goes there though.  It'll probably depend on how much
space we have and how long it needs to be there for, etc.

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-06-01 Thread Max Spevack

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


I don't see it recorded in

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Trademark_licensees

It doesn't fit the trademark guidelines either. While Red Hat can 
legally grant a license to anyone and doesn't have to abide by the 
guidelines, I would expect it to do so nevertheless. So why a special 
exception for Russian Fedora?


There shouldn't be a special case, and it's possible that Red Hat's 
distributor in Russia may have granted some sort of permision that (a) 
it shouldn't have, and (b) it didn't even have the authority to grant.


The Russian-specific portions of this thread seem to have moved over 
here, where I responded to a similar thread.


http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-June/msg0.html

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rpms/pango/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.86, 1.87 pango.spec, 1.160, 1.161 sources, 1.87, 1.88

2009-06-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
Author: mclasen

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32410

Modified Files:
.cvsignore pango.spec sources 
Log Message:
1.24.2



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.86
retrieving revision 1.87
diff -u -p -r1.86 -r1.87
--- .cvsignore  14 Apr 2009 00:12:00 -  1.86
+++ .cvsignore  1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 -   1.87
@@ -1 +1 @@
-pango-1.24.1.tar.bz2
+pango-1.24.2.tar.bz2


Index: pango.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/pango.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.160
retrieving revision 1.161
diff -u -p -r1.160 -r1.161
--- pango.spec  18 Apr 2009 12:39:23 -  1.160
+++ pango.spec  1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 -   1.161
@@ -8,8 +8,8 @@
 
 Summary: System for layout and rendering of internationalized text
 Name: pango
-Version: 1.24.1
-Release: 1%{?dist}.1
+Version: 1.24.2
+Release: 1%{?dist}
 License: LGPLv2+
 Group: System Environment/Libraries
 Source: http://download.gnome.org/sources/pango/1.24/pango-%{version}.tar.bz2
@@ -225,6 +225,10 @@ fi
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jun  1 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 1.24.2-1
+- Update to 1.24.2
+- http://download.gnome.org/sources/pango/1.24/pango-1.24.2.news
+
 * Sat Apr 18 2009 Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com 1.24.1-1.1
 - autoconf uses ibm-linux not redhat-linux (s390x)
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.87
retrieving revision 1.88
diff -u -p -r1.87 -r1.88
--- sources 14 Apr 2009 00:12:00 -  1.87
+++ sources 1 Jun 2009 16:24:16 -   1.88
@@ -1 +1 @@
-af0beac1dd1825e241c5728081f16acd  pango-1.24.1.tar.bz2
+7bc6c884d847cabc613e4c6d663771f5  pango-1.24.2.tar.bz2

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[Bug 503617] Review Request: senamirmir-washra-fonts - Fonts for the Geʼez (Ethiopic) scrip

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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rpms/fontconfig/devel .cvsignore, 1.43, 1.44 fontconfig.spec, 1.132, 1.133 sources, 1.46, 1.47

2009-06-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Author: behdad

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21244

Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontconfig.spec sources 
Log Message:
* Mon June  1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 
- Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.43
retrieving revision 1.44
diff -u -p -r1.43 -r1.44
--- .cvsignore  8 May 2009 20:00:25 -   1.43
+++ .cvsignore  2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 -   1.44
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508.tar.gz
+fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090601.tar.gz


Index: fontconfig.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/fontconfig.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.132
retrieving revision 1.133
diff -u -p -r1.132 -r1.133
--- fontconfig.spec 8 May 2009 20:00:25 -   1.132
+++ fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 -   1.133
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 
 Summary: Font configuration and customization library
 Name: fontconfig
-Version: 2.6.99.behdad.20090508
+Version: 2.6.99.behdad.20090601
 Release: 1%{?dist}
 License: MIT
 Group: System Environment/Libraries
@@ -131,6 +131,9 @@ fi
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon June  1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1
+- Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601
+
 * Tue May  8 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1
 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090508
 - Resolves #497984


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.46
retrieving revision 1.47
diff -u -p -r1.46 -r1.47
--- sources 8 May 2009 20:00:25 -   1.46
+++ sources 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 -   1.47
@@ -1 +1 @@
-8e04b95bfb69a2dba947dd0cfc61b5f0  fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508.tar.gz
+03aec10ac95d376ab402e5644196684b  fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090601.tar.gz

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rpms/fontconfig/devel fontconfig.spec,1.133,1.134

2009-06-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Author: behdad

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21562

Modified Files:
fontconfig.spec 
Log Message:
* Mon Jun  1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1 
- Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601 



Index: fontconfig.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/fontconfig.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.133
retrieving revision 1.134
diff -u -p -r1.133 -r1.134
--- fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:55:45 -   1.133
+++ fontconfig.spec 2 Jun 2009 01:58:15 -   1.134
@@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ fi
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
-* Mon June  1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1
+* Mon Jun  1 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
2.6.99.behdad.20090601-1
 - Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090601
 
 * Tue May  8 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 
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[Bug 458951] [sd-IN] Sindhi language is not identified by fontconfig

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458951


Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|rawhide |10

Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 CC||pnem...@redhat.com
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #6 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com  2008-11-25 
21:45:55 EDT ---

This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 10
development cycle.
Changing version to '10'.

More information and reason for this action is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

--- Comment #7 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-06-02 01:17:02 EDT ---
As Sindhi language translations are not in Fedora yet and this is fixed in
rawhide(F11), I think we can close this as RAWHIDE instead to wait for
backporting current fontconfig release to F10.

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[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 462711 depends on bug 461139, which changed state.

Bug 461139 Summary: Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||NOTABUG



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[Bug 461139] Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139


Parag pnem...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 CC||pnem...@redhat.com
 Resolution||NOTABUG
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   |.com)   |




--- Comment #38 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-06-02 01:27:03 EDT ---
Its almost 7 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now.
Anyone interested please submit new package review.
Subodh,
   If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit
updated package.

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[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 497090] [bn][bn-IN][as] Invalid addition of Yaphala conjuncts are being rendered

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497090


Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |MODIFIED




--- Comment #1 from Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com  2009-06-02 01:27:57 
EDT ---
IMO, this is not wrong semantically, since a syllable can be composed of any
number of Consonant+(Halant+Consonant)n sequences. Although this can be a case
of not usable syllables or the syllables that are not used in the given
language, it may not qualify as a critical issue to be tweaked in the layout
engine.

@Amit, can you please mention if this is a bug for Assamese language as well or
just an unused syllable?

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[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2009-06-01 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
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 Resolution||NOTABUG
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   |.com)   |




--- Comment #8 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-06-02 01:27:32 EDT ---
Its almost 7 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now.
Anyone interested please submit new package review.
Subodh,
   If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit
updated package.

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[Bug 461139] Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts

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[Bug 466193] Review Request: alee-fonts - Korean TrueType Fonts

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--- Comment #6 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-06-02 01:30:21 EDT ---
Its almost 8 months and no reply from submitter, I will close this review now.
Anyone interested please submit new package review.
Smallvil,
   If you are still following this review and want to package this, submit
updated package.

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To start work on some project

2009-06-01 Thread Bhavinkumar patel
Hi everyone,

Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly
should be done to start working on project ??

I sent request to the sponsors. Should I wait for their reply ??

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Re: To start work on some project

2009-06-01 Thread Arun
Hi There,

You have to wait and follow the link which is in the admin.fedoraproject.org.


Just Go through about all the steps in the link, that would be very
userfull.

Also see for the ethics need to be followed in the link.

Thanks  Regards
++Arun

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 Hi everyone,

 Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly
 should be done to start working on project ??

 I sent request to the sponsors. Should I wait for their reply ??

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Re: To start work on some project

2009-06-01 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-06-01 12:27:04 AM, Bhavinkumar patel wrote:
 Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly
 should be done to start working on project ??
Things in Infrastructure are currently pretty quite since we're in a
change freeze right now.  We have a ticket tracker at
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/1 if there's
anything there that you'd be interested in working on.  

We're also usually on #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net, so feel free to
join and say hi.  We also have IRC meetings on Thursdays at 20:00 UTC,
which is a good way to find ways to start helping out.

Thanks, and welcome!
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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 19:30 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
 2009/6/1 jan sonnek xjanson...@gmail.com:
  On 01/06/09 00:13, Martín Marqués wrote:
 
  Hi all, what's the status for trying to upgrade F10 to F11 using yum-
  I'm trying to upgrade against the 11-Preview version which is
  available but crash into some dependencie problems.
 
  Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
  have to wait another week?
 
  I have update now, but I am much satisfied.
  I have removed some dependency packages, PyQT4 etc.
  Then yum update without some problem.

 I'm getting these errors, and other too.

Try

# yum -y --enablerepo=updates-testing update

I've yum upgraded 4 F10 boxes to F11 with yum so far.
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environment variables

2009-06-01 Thread Thufir
Just curious about the best way to manage env var's.  I edited /etc/
profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java 
gets installed?


[make...@arrakis ~]$ 
[make...@arrakis ~]$ 
[make...@arrakis ~]$ cat /etc/profile
# /etc/profile

# System wide environment and startup programs, for login setup
# Functions and aliases go in /etc/bashrc


JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/


pathmunge () {
if ! echo $PATH | /bin/egrep -q (^|:)$1($|:) ; then
   if [ $2 = after ] ; then
  PATH=$PATH:$1
   else
  PATH=$1:$PATH
   fi
fi
}

# ksh workaround
if [ -z $EUID -a -x /usr/bin/id ]; then 
EUID=`id -u`
UID=`id -ru`
fi

# Path manipulation
if [ $EUID = 0 ]; then
pathmunge /sbin
pathmunge /usr/sbin
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin
else
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin after
pathmunge /usr/sbin after
pathmunge /sbin after
fi

# No core files by default
ulimit -S -c 0  /dev/null 21

if [ -x /usr/bin/id ]; then
USER=`id -un`
LOGNAME=$USER
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/$USER
fi

HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname 2/dev/null`
HISTSIZE=1000

export PATH USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME HISTSIZE JAVA_HOME

for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do
if [ -r $i ]; then
if [ $PS1 ]; then
. $i
else
. $i /dev/null 21
fi
fi
done

export PATH

unset i
unset pathmunge
[make...@arrakis ~]$ 
[make...@arrakis ~]$ env
ORBIT_SOCKETDIR=/tmp/orbit-thufir
HOSTNAME=arrakis
TERM=xterm
SHELL=/bin/bash
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=32a9bfc77b4a195b688875bf4a1883ed-1243842275.899648-1364835814
HISTSIZE=1000
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/thufir/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
WINDOWID=16779001
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3
QTINC=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include
USER=makerpm
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=00;34:ln=00;36:pi=40;33:so=00;35:do=00;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:mi=01;05;37;41:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=00;32:*.tar=00;31:*.tgz=00;31:*.svgz=00;31:*.arj=00;31:*.taz=00;31:*.lzh=00;31:*.lzma=00;31:*.zip=00;31:*.z=00;31:*.Z=00;31:*.dz=00;31:*.gz=00;31:*.bz2=00;31:*.tbz2=00;31:*.bz=00;31:*.tz=00;31:*.deb=00;31:*.rpm=00;31:*.jar=00;31:*.rar=00;31:*.ace=00;31:*.zoo=00;31:*.cpio=00;31:*.7z=00;31:*.rz=00;31:*.jpg=00;35:*.jpeg=00;35:*.gif=00;35:*.bmp=00;35:*.pbm=00;35:*.pgm=00;35:*.ppm=00;35:*.tga=00;35:*.xbm=00;35:*.xpm=00;35:*.tif=00;35:*.tiff=00;35:*.png=00;35:*.mng=00;35:*.pcx=00;35:*.mov=00;35:*.mpg=00;35:*.mpeg=00;35:*.m2v=00;35:*.mkv=00;35:*.ogm=00;35:*.mp4=00;35:*.m4v=00;35:*.mp4v=00;35:*.vob=00;35:*.qt=00;35:*.nuv=00;35:*.wmv=00;35:*.asf=00;35:*.rm=00;35:*.rmvb=00;35:*.flc=00;35:*.avi=00;35:*.fli=00;35:*.gl=00;35:*.dl=00;35:*.xcf=00;35:*.xwd=00;35:*.yuv=00;35:*.svg=00;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;!
 
36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-RPy3db/ssh
GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-RPy3db/socket
USERNAME=thufir
SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/17658,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE-
unix/17658
DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome
PATH=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/
bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/thufir/bin
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/thufir
PWD=/home/makerpm
xmodifie...@im=imsettings
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/
KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1
GNOME_KEYRING_PID=17655
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
GDM_LANG=en_US.UTF-8
KDEDIRS=/usr
GDMSESSION=gnome
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass
HOME=/home/makerpm
SHLVL=3
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
LOGNAME=makerpm
CVS_RSH=ssh
QTLIB=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-
swOenhod2G,guid=437d13456e1c52677517147e4a2386e4
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s
DISPLAY=:0.0
QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/home/thufir/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/
plugins/:/home/makerpm/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/
G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
XAUTHORITY=/home/makerpm/.xauthqUCqV7
COLORTERM=gnome-terminal
_=/usr/bin/env
OLDPWD=/home/thufir
[make...@arrakis ~]$ 
[make...@arrakis ~]$ 





-Thufir

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Re: make libcurl

2009-06-01 Thread Thufir
Ok, that seemed to have worked:

[r...@arrakis i386]# 
[r...@arrakis i386]# rpm -ihv curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm 
Preparing...### 
[100%]
   1:curl-java  ### 
[100%]
[r...@arrakis i386]# 
[r...@arrakis i386]# pwd
/home/makerpm/rpmbuild/RPMS/i386
[r...@arrakis i386]# 
[r...@arrakis i386]# whoami
root
[r...@arrakis i386]# 



Now, uh, to use it.  I almost forget what I was trying to do in the first 
place!



thanks,

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Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk

2009-06-01 Thread parthachowdhury10
  Sumit Agrawal wrote:
   I am new for Fedora.
   I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk
   using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD.
   I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk.
   But while installation it was not detecting USB hard disk.
   Can anybody help me regarding this issue.

Recently i installed a fedora 10 live usb to a 80GB external drive by using the 
cli livecd-iso-to-disk application. So you should be able to do the same i.e 
first install a liveusb which is a subset of all fedora packages and after 
installtion use the dvd as a localrepo to add things.

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Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009-06-01 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
 On 05/30/2009 04:49 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 How do you access the security erase facility?

All kidding aside, there's a web site from which you can download a
little DOS utility to invoke security erase on a drive.  The README
claims that security erase is better than smashing the drive to bits,
though (I suspect) not better then pulling out the platters and
blowtorching them till the oxide falls off.

URL for the site is:
http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml

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Re: Package Installer

2009-06-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, C Li vishwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 How can I get package installer to run in a GUI (gnome) as root.  I keep
 getting a message that says You do not have sufficient privileges to
 run this operation.

 Use su -c 'gpk-install-local-file x.rpm' or sudo gpk-install-local-file
 x.rpm, where x.rpm is the rpm you are trying to install.

 Or, you could try adding your user into the root group.

Wrong, sorry. The reason that it's not going to run as root is because
unless you've setup PolicyKit to do otherwise, it's not going to work
correctly, so gnome-packagekit detects uid 0 and warns you.

Running a PackageKit GUI as root is not a good plan at all. With
GTK_MODULES a malicious user could silently install software. It's
totally insecure.

Richard.

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Re: ipv6 question

2009-06-01 Thread Michael Casey
off:

So, could it be reality, that the next-generation Linux Distro's e.g.:
iptables will Default not ACCEPT, rather then this:

iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

+ allow ICMP on INPUT because I heard/read that IPv6 relies more on ICMP


it could make a good standard firewall (?FIXME) - if anyone puts any
server service, than he must know that he must change the INPUT XYZ

sorry for just stating these kind of things :D just thinking..

I only seen a few distros, but they policy were default ACCEPT everywhere :O

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Re: problems: print from evince

2009-06-01 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:19 +1000, L wrote:
 ** (evince:): WARNING **: NOT IMPLEMENTED: We need to prompt for authorization

You are using a device URI for a queue which requires authentication,
but the authentication details are not present in the URI, like this:

  smb://workgroup/server/share

After the first print job has been delivered, future jobs will require
authentication at print submission time and GTK+ does not currently
support this.

The work-around is to specify the authentication details in the device
URI, as has always been necessary in previous Fedora releases.  In
system-config-printer, click 'Choose...' next to the queue's device URI
and select the 'Set authentication details now' radio button.

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Cannot set keyboard in Gnome, running via VNC in FC10

2009-06-01 Thread Bengt Månsson
Hi
I have search for this and find things related but not exactly the same. At
least not with recent versions.
I have a fresh install of FC10 and have just made an update.
I run with runlevel 3.
When I start vncserver and log in from a remote client I get an error dialog
saying: Error activating XKB configuration.
I get the gnome desktop but I am not able to set my keyboard type to
Swedish, which is the hw I have.
Please advice
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Re: ipv6 question

2009-06-01 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com writes:
 So, could it be reality, that the next-generation Linux Distro's e.g.:
 iptables will Default not ACCEPT, rather then this:
 
 iptables -P INPUT DROP
 iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
 iptables -P FORWARD DROP
 iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

 + allow ICMP on INPUT because I heard/read that IPv6 relies more on ICMP
 

 it could make a good standard firewall (?FIXME) - if anyone puts any
 server service, than he must know that he must change the INPUT XYZ

This is what f11 does:

/etc/sysconfig/ip6tables:
# Firewall configuration written by system-config-firewall
# Manual customization of this file is not recommended.
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
-A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited
-A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited
COMMIT

It looks good to me, including the newer wording in
system-config-firewall around icmp and ipv6-icmp which discourages
clueless admins from blocking icmp's and gumming up the works.

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Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all;

I am going to need my laptop again, which has F8 on it, and a network 
connection.  Fired up for first time in most of a year, pup is upgrading 50 
packages right now.

What's the quickest  least typing, way to upgrade it to F10?

Thanks.

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Re: Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Burger
I do believe that preupgrade will work...if not, boot directly from the
F10 DVD and upgrade that way.

At least, that's how I've been doing them.

 Greetings all;

 I am going to need my laptop again, which has F8 on it, and a network
 connection.  Fired up for first time in most of a year, pup is upgrading
 50
 packages right now.

 What's the quickest  least typing, way to upgrade it to F10?

 Thanks.

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Re: OT: Pushing back Time

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Burger
(Yes, I'm top posting, but it's only to make this point, and to actually,
maybe, have it seen)

Guys, I doubt that he was trying to troll, in this case.  It seemed to me
that he was simply pointing out something he thought was humorous.

What I suspect is that Chris is not subscribed to the
fedora-announce-list, and hasn't necessarily seen the announcements that
the date was slipping by a week or more, due to the fixes, etc.

So, maybe we should cut him a little slack?

 On 5/29/2009 8:08 PM, Chris wrote:
 On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400
 David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote:
 Greetings,

 Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release
 of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in
 the wrong direction.

 For example, a few days ago it said 7 days. Tonight, we're at 11.
 Might I suggest the tag line say something like:

 It will be release when it's released.

 If you had any idea of what is happening behind the screens. If you
 had any idea of what the developers are doing. Working on. Fixing.
 trying to make this a good, no great, release, you would troll your
 way out of here.

 Bye troll.


 *shrug*


 Gee... You mean that you want them to release a 'maybe bad - don't work
 for a lot of users' release' just so you can have the 'latest and the
 greatest'? *WOW!!!*

 Which just might not, maybe, wont work for you and many others?? Or
 would you prefer, what most of us would prefer, that they present a
 release that at least works for most? And has promise to work for those
 that it does not with a tweak or two??

 Crawl back under the bridge Troll. Not a troll? Really  Then shut the
 hell up about schedules that slide for the better of the the masses.

 Here's an idea! You want Fedora 11 *RIGHT NOW*? Download the last RC.
 Install it. And then update it. *PING*! You got it!

 Then? The bridge is that way. 
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Re: Netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 The top bar seems to be an impenetrable barrier.  Once the top of the
 dialog box hits it, it stops you from moving the box any higher.

That sounds like a bug in Metacity. KWin allows you to move things
off-screen just fine.

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Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy

I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:

1. Cheap
2. TL capability
3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.

[This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard.
I need the TL feature for my grand-daughter to play Sims-2
under Windows XP.]

Any and all suggestions gratefully received.


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Re: Package Installer

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Hughes wrote:
 Wrong, sorry. The reason that it's not going to run as root is because
 unless you've setup PolicyKit to do otherwise

s/setup/patched and rebuilt/
PolicyKit is hardcoded to reject root, for no good reason.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447266
It works perfectly fine as root when this useless check is removed (though
it will prompt even root for authentication unless you change the policies
to blanket allow root to do everything), so I have no idea why the check is
even there.

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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 2. TL capability

Nope, sorry, I can't figure out what this means.

poc

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
jan sonnek wrote:
 Then yum update without some problem.

If you had F10 updates enabled, you also need to enable F11 updates.
If you had F10 updates-testing enabled, you also need to enable F11
updates-testing.

As for VirtualBox, that's a third-party RPM, you'll have to remove it before
upgrading and install a version built for F11 after the upgrade.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
David wrote:

 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.
 
 How to use PreUpgrade
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade
 
 This will take a while. A long while.

Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
and then choose Rawhide,
why not say this?

It may be obvious to you,
but would not be to many Fedora users.


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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
 TL capability

Texture and Lighting capability.

While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
pasted verbatim.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22

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Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Is there a Skype HOWTO or FAQ for Fedora-10?

I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else,
but don't see any way to do this under Linux.

Incidentally, is there any alternative to Skype
that works under Linux and Windows XP?

As far as I can see, the latest version of Skype for Fedora
is called skype...fc5,
even though it is in the directory called Fedora 6-7
on the Skype web-site (www.skype.com).



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Re: Boxbe refusing email, what gives ??

2009-06-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 11:51 -0400, Jim wrote:
 Does anyone know what this means DKIM and SPF authentication.
 
 Jim
Both are easily found in a Google search.
 
 
 
 I received your email about Fwd: [Fwd: Fw: Two Presidents Meet the
 Marines], but your message failed DKIM or SPF authentication. 
 
 In the future, more email servers may reject messages that fail
 authentication. You may want to contact your network administrator to
 fix this issue. 
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 
 About this Notice
 This courtesy notice is part of a free service to make email more
 reliable and useful. Boxbe (www.boxbe.com) uses your existing social
 network and that of your friends to keep your inbox clean and make
 sure you receive email from people who matter to you.
 
 Boxbe
 Say Goodbye to Email Overload
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Re: environment variables

2009-06-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Thufir wrote:
 Just curious about the best way to manage env var's.  I edited /etc/
 profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java 
 gets installed?
 
 
A better way is to add files to /etc/profile.d - you can use the
ones there as examples. The ones with ending in .csh are used if you
are using a c type shell, (csh, tcsh, etc) and the ones ending in
.sh are for sh type shells. (sh, bash, zsh, etc)

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
Ekiga is an open-source voice chat solution.  However, it does not use
the Skype network.

There is also Empathy, which supports voice chat and can do basic IM
functions, like Pidgin.

I have not used either of these, so consumer beware.  I would give
Empathy a shot first; Fedora and Ubuntu have considered replacing
Pidgin with Empathy before (try googling ubuntu pidgin usability),
whereas Ekiga seems to be more voice-only.

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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim

On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

Jim wrote:

On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:



On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net 
mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


FC10/Kde

I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message
from DMESG.

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb


I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone
know where this firmware
is.


I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the 
box.


Anyway, take a look at

http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl

which will take you to:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54

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I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box.

I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, 
it would not install in

/lib64/firmware.

I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have 
ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed.


The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how 
do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ?




I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a 
D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I 
had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So 
the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link.


1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/
2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb'
2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, 
enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. 
Here driver is p54.


I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part.

HTH

PS: I am on x86_64 too
$uname -r
2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64


I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems.
Do you know what this means?

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110



Here is my dmesg and lsmod


Dmesg

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)
usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb
phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware
p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392
phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9
phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb



Modules that are loading

p54usb 14208  0
p54common  20452  1 p54usb
mac80211  194224  2 p54usb,p54common



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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread RS
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:25 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 RS wrote:
 
  I just finished installing and configuring skype on F11 Pre. Get the
  static tar.bz2 file and untar. when you run the skype executable. it
  will complain about a bunch of missing .so files. INstall one by one and
  you can then launch skype. You may have to try a few tricks to get the
  audio working properly since skype is coded for ALSA. PLay around with
  the Sound Devices config in Skype's Options Menu..
 
 But does this get you a newer (or better) version that the RPM file
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My About menu shows 2.0.72 - which is the latest for Linux I believe...

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Re: Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Mike Burger wrote:
I do believe that preupgrade will work...if not, boot directly from the
F10 DVD and upgrade that way.

At least, that's how I've been doing them.

Ok, that is installing via yum, whats next?  Reboot?

I has tried to build fmit on the F8 it has, but the configure script bails out 
when it couldn't find libasound, and that seems to be made out of unobtainium 
for F8.

Can fmit be brought into F11?  Its a handy instrument tuner tool for 
musicians.

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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/6/1 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/1 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net:

 Modules that are loading

 p54usb                 14208  0
 p54common              20452  1 p54usb
 mac80211              194224  2 p54usb,p54common


 As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there.
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices


A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but
has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be,

download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886'

and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate.

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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim

I forgot to tell you that in menuconfig

M Prism54 USB Support(So it is enabled in Kernel)






On 06/01/2009 12:15 PM, Jim wrote:

On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

Jim wrote:

On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:



On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net 
mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


FC10/Kde

I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message
from DMESG.

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb


I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone
know where this firmware
is.


I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of 
the box.


Anyway, take a look at

http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl

which will take you to:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54

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I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box.

I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, 
it would not install in

/lib64/firmware.

I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have 
ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed.


The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how 
do I change the repo's to read the i386 files ?




I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a 
D-Link USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I 
had set it up for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So 
the procedure should be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link.


1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/
2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb'
2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root, 
enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. 
Here driver is p54.


I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part.

HTH

PS: I am on x86_64 too
$uname -r
2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64


I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems.
Do you know what this means?

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110



Here is my dmesg and lsmod


Dmesg

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)
usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb
phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware
p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392
phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9
phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb



Modules that are loading

p54usb 14208  0
p54common  20452  1 p54usb
mac80211  194224  2 p54usb,p54common





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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote:
David wrote:
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.

Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
and then choose Rawhide,
why not say this?

And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, 
it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10.  That sucks.

Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper 
bug extant and holding up the F11 release?

That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use the 
machine.  It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out.  
All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire.  But 
F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs.  This F10 built it ok, 
and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install 
build it?

It may be obvious to you,
but would not be to many Fedora users.

Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :(

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Re: problem with my laptop

2009-06-01 Thread Les
On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 13:10 -0400, Nebur Álvarez B. wrote:
 hi!, before, my english is not very well, i'm sorry.
 
 i have a problem with my laptop (sony vaio vgn-nr330fe), when I
 execute many process, fails gnome and kde, and them does nothing when
 i try do click in anywhere place. I try find the error, but, I nothing
 found
 
 I am mindful of your comments
 
 best regards
I saw that several people replied with some information.  Did you check
the log files?  When the system next comes up, check the system logs to
see what information they provide.

Look at
ApplicationsSystem ToolsSystem Log

It may provide some useful information.

Regards,
Les H

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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim

On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote:

2009/6/1 suvayu alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
   

2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net:
 

Modules that are loading

p54usb 14208  0
p54common  20452  1 p54usb
mac80211  194224  2 p54usb,p54common

   

As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices

 

A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but
has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be,

download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886'

and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate.

GL

   

But the device I have is a  WUSB54G is a USB device.
The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is 
the isl3886usb

but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb
Am I missing something here ?

Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't  this 
firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ?



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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Jim wrote:

But the device I have is a  WUSB54G is a USB device.
The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is 
the isl3886usb

but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb
Am I missing something here ?

Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't  this 
firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ?


Only if the firmware is 64-bit firmware.  Is your USB device 64-bit?
Firmware runs on your device , not on your host CPU.

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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/6/1 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

 Jim wrote:

 On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:


 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net
 mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

    FC10/Kde

    I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message
    from DMESG.

    usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb

    usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)

    usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb

    p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2
    usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb


    I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone
    know where this firmware
    is.


 I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the
 box.

 Anyway, take a look at

 http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl

 which will take you to:

 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54

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 I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box.

 I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it
 would not install in
 /lib64/firmware.

 I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have
 ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed.

 The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I
 change the repo's to read the i386 files ?


 I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link
 USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up
 for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should
 be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link.

 1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/
 2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb'
 2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root,
 enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobe driver. Here
 driver is p54.

 I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part.

 HTH

 PS: I am on x86_64 too
 $uname -r
 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64

 I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems.
 Do you know what this means?

 p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110



 Here is my dmesg and lsmod


 Dmesg

 usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)
 usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb
 phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware
 p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392
 phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9
 phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES

 p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110
 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb


# dmesg|grep firmware
firmware: requesting isl3890usb
p54: LM86 firmware

# dmesg|grep prism
usbcore: registered new interface driver prism54usb
Loaded prism54 driver, version 1.2

This is my output from dmesg. Its rather odd that in your case the
kernel is looking for two different firmwares for the same device.


 Modules that are loading

 p54usb                 14208  0
 p54common              20452  1 p54usb
 mac80211              194224  2 p54usb,p54common


As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices

However filtering the complete device list for Linksys gives me a list
where it is included.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB?dbw.devices.submit=filterdbw.devices.filter0=[all]dbw.devices.filter1=Linksysdbw.devices.filter3=[all]dbw.devices.filter4=[all]

Are you sure you have the correct model *name* *and* *revision* for the adapter?

If you have that correct then the next step would be to check the
settings in menuconfig. This is what you should see when you search
for prism after running make menuconfig.

  │ Symbol: PRISM54 [=m]
  │ Prompt: Intersil Prism GT/Duette/Indigo PCI/Cardbus
  │   Defined at drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig:496
  │   Depends on: NETDEVICES  !S390  PCI  EXPERIMENTAL  WLAN_80211
  │   Location:
  │ - Device Drivers
  │   - Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y])
  │ - Wireless LAN
  │   - Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11) (WLAN_80211 [=y])
  │   Selects: WIRELESS_EXT  FW_LOADER

After that is verified, try 'modprobe prism54'. I was quoting from
memory in my last email and had erroneously said p54. If all of this
doesn't work, I am out of ideas. I am very new to linux myself. :P

GL

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Cloaked



ravi2boxster wrote:
 
 
 My About menu shows 2.0.72 - which is the latest for Linux I believe...
 
 

The following guide still works for F10 I believe - not sure about F11 yet
though?

http://fedorasolved.org/multimedia-solutions/installing-skype
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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim

On 06/01/2009 12:51 PM, suvayu ali wrote:

2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net:
   

On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 

Jim wrote:
   

On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
 


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net
mailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:

FC10/Kde

I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message
from DMESG.

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)

usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb


I have googled isl3886USB and can't find the firmware, does anyone
know where this firmware
is.


I am pretty sure I used one of those on F8, and it worked out of the
box.

Anyway, take a look at

http://markmail.org/message/oqgtvzwxholc5dsl

which will take you to:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54

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I should have told you that I'm trying install on a X86_64 box.

I did install the 2.13.24.0.lm86(2).arm and it is in /lib/firmware, it
would not install in
/lib64/firmware.

I think I need to install the ndiswrapper for i386, I have
ndiswrapper.X86_64 installed.

The ndiswrapper.i386 doesn't show up in FC10 X86_64 fedora repo how do I
change the repo's to read the i386 files ?

 

I think you missed a crucial step. Although right now I am using a D-Link
USB wifi receiver, I did try a Linksys for a few days after I had set it up
for the D-Link, and it worked right out of the box. So the procedure should
be the same. Here is how I did it for the D-Link.

1. I put the firmware in /lib/firmware/
2. Renamed it to 'isl3890usb'
2. in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ ran make menuconfig as root,
enabled the relevant kernel module. then did a modprobedriver. Here
driver  is p54.

I believe you missed the renaming the firmware part.

HTH

PS: I am on x86_64 too
$uname -r
2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64

   

I did as you suggested, but I'm still having problems.
Do you know what this means?

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110



Here is my dmesg and lsmod


Dmesg

usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb)
usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb
phy0: p54 detected a LM86 firmware
p54: rx_mtu reduced from 3240 to 2392
phy0: FW rev 2.13.24.0 - Softmac protocol 5.9
phy0: cryptographic accelerator WEP:YES, TKIP:YES, CCMP:YES

p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -110
usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb

 

# dmesg|grep firmware
firmware: requesting isl3890usb
p54: LM86 firmware

# dmesg|grep prism
usbcore: registered new interface driver prism54usb
Loaded prism54 driver, version 1.2

This is my output from dmesg. Its rather odd that in your case the
kernel is looking for two different firmwares for the same device.

   

Modules that are loading

p54usb 14208  0
p54common  20452  1 p54usb
mac80211  194224  2 p54usb,p54common

 

As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices

However filtering the complete device list for Linksys gives me a list
where it is included.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB?dbw.devices.submit=filterdbw.devices.filter0=[all]dbw.devices.filter1=Linksysdbw.devices.filter3=[all]dbw.devices.filter4=[all]

Are you sure you have the correct model *name* *and* *revision* for the adapter?

If you have that correct then the next step would be to check the
settings in menuconfig. This is what you should see when you search
for prism after running make menuconfig.

   │ Symbol: PRISM54 [=m]
   │ Prompt: Intersil Prism GT/Duette/Indigo PCI/Cardbus
   │   Defined at drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig:496
   │   Depends on: NETDEVICES  !S390  PCI  EXPERIMENTAL  WLAN_80211
   │   Location:
   │ -  Device Drivers
   │   -  Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y])
   │ -  Wireless LAN
   │   -  Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11) (WLAN_80211 [=y])
   │   Selects: WIRELESS_EXT  FW_LOADER

After that is verified, try 'modprobe prism54'. I was quoting from
memory in my last email and had erroneously said p54. If all of this
doesn't work, I am out of ideas. I am very new to linux myself. :P

GL

   

You maybe right about my device.

1915:2234  ( the 2234 is compatible)

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Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
   Sumit Agrawal wrote:
I am new for Fedora.
I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk
using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD.
I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk.
But while installation it was not detecting USB hard disk.
Can anybody help me regarding this issue.
 
 Recently i installed a fedora 10 live usb to a 80GB external drive by using 
 the cli livecd-iso-to-disk application. So you should be able to do the same 
 i.e first install a liveusb which is a subset of all fedora packages and 
 after installtion use the dvd as a localrepo to add things.
 

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Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:27:37 Andras Simon wrote:

On 5/28/09, Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:

Another example from my experience: I bought a Creative webcam on
impulse (it was very cheap, found it on Slickdeals). Plug it in - no
dice. Search for the drivers - nothing. Some similar models are
supported, but not this one (different chipset, I think, was the
problem). Creative has open source page for this webcam
(http://tinyurl.com/m72oq3). I'll even save you the trouble of going to
that page: status is pending and there's no link to any sources. So
what, I'm supposed to write a driver myself?

No. Just stop impulse buying stuff.

Not always easy.  I printed out the whole list of known-to-work webcams, and 
couldn't find one of them in the store.  No box ever tells you what chipset 
is being used.  In the end I bought a cheap own-brand webcam.  To my surprise 
it worked with the gspca driver!


Then you have to find application software to use the camera. I have been using 
xawtv to record off the webcam, but it needs a font from some unavailable 
package. I loaded all the fonts which are on my FC10 partition to FC11, and no 
go. I really want a cli application, but that's another issue, I'm back to FC10 
for now.


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Re: self-signed certificates (was Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...)

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:08:08 -0700,
  Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As for the man-in-the-middle attack, I'd imagine the biggest usage case
 is an eavesdropped-in-the-middle and not someone that was able to break
 the data stream and insert themselves.  Having an encrypted channel with
 a slightly nebulous endpoint is still better than having an unencrypted
 channel.

For average Joes, the most common problem is going to be that their machine
is compromized. Extra security of https over http for them is barely a
blip.

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Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to said:
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:26:17 -0500,
   Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
  HTTPS with an unknown self-signed cert is barely any more secure than
  unencrypted HTTP, since a man-in-the-middle attack could just be
  replacing the cert and decrypting all communications.
 
 No it is a much harder attack than snooping. To do man in the middle you need
 to be able to take packets out of the stream and redirect them. This needs to
 be done in real time and if you guess wrong about whether the other end knows
 what the certificate is, people are going to notice you doing it.

ISTR if you can snoop you can hijack the TCP session setup by responding
first (aren't out-of-window packets ignored?).  You don't have to cause
the real responses to be dropped, you just have to respond faster.

 And be sure to note that certificate signed by RSA, Thawte or whoever doesn't
 equate to secure either. Unless you have verified the end certificate
 yourself you don't know that the organization on the other end is who you
 really mean to be talking to.

You are trusting that the CAs have done the verification, which they do
(to differing degrees).
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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 David wrote:
 
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?
 
 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.
 
 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?
 
 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.


Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There
is no Fedora 11 release. Yet.

And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure
out what you just described as not obvious.

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Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote:

True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work
under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet
(or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years
old, there are always drivers for it.


Nope.  From time to time there have been windows releases where the old 
drivers would not work, and no new ones were written.  I had a SCSI Black 
Widow scanner that had to be thrown for just that reason.


Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm not 
going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing out an 
expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of only Linux on my 
systems.


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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
  TL capability
 
 Texture and Lighting capability.
 
 While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
 generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
 pasted verbatim.
 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22

Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it.

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:23 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else,
 but don't see any way to do this under Linux.

AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail
contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have
never had to copy stuff from one to another.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 David wrote:
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?
 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.
 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?
 
 And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank list, 
 it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10.  That sucks.
 
 Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show topper 
 bug extant and holding up the F11 release?
 
 That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use 
 the 
 machine.  It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is out.  
 All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us) repertoire.  But 
 F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs.  This F10 built it ok, 
 and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days, so why can't an F8 install 
 build it?
 
 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.
 
 Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :(
 


For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.

I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/6/1 David dgbo...@comcast.net:


 For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
 preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.

 I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
 eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
 Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.

Is rawhide frozen till after F11 is released?

Just want to be sure I'm not upgrading to something over F11.

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mistake about double posting [was:[Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk]]

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
apparently i forgot to edit my account option to send me an acknowledgement 
mail when i post to this list and so i double posted.Sorry about the mistake.

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Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Konstantin Svist wrote:

Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P


No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't
want to have to use crappy buggy proprietary drivers which weren't even
written for my operating system! Ndiscrapper (misspelling intentional) is a
problem, not a solution.

Are you saying if I scrap ndiswrapper you will write a driver? I'll give you a 
list of hardware, if you have some time.



Buy a supported printer! (I recommend HP models supported by HPLIP without
the binary plugin. Most HP printers are, but check the compatibility list
to be sure.)


If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they will 
probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told them they 
would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux, and be cost justified.


You are mixing religious zeal with affordability, or something. It's something 
you can practice for personal use (donate to the cause of your choice), or if 
your employer will buy what you want. If I have to buy it out of my business 
budget, or get someone to pay for it, there needs to be a compelling business 
reason.


I don't disagree with your point, but it's not an option for many users. And if 
I get someone using Linux with ndiswrapper it's easier to influence new hardware 
buys.


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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote:
On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 David wrote:
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.

 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?

 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.

Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There
is no Fedora 11 release. Yet.

And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure
out what you just described as not obvious.

Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade 
screen?
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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2009/6/1 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net:

 I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:

 1. Cheap
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.

 2. TL capability
I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently
available will have this, and be able to run Sims 2. I'd ask the shop
salesperson if you can test the card.

 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open
source drivers to the community. Currently new RadeonHD cards will
work quite nicely, but especially on Fedora 10 there is little
hardware acceleration offered. At least for my Radeon HD3650, Fedora
11 provides some 2D hardware acceleration, and 3D OpenGL acceleration
is also in the works.

With Nvidia cards, you will be able to get pixels to the screen and
probably get the correct resolution for your screen, but AFAIK,
especially open source 3D acceleration is much less complete for
Nvidia cards than for Amd/Ati or Intel devices, due to Nvidia refusing
to release any specifications that would help the community to build
open source drivers for themselves.

For both Nvidia and AMD/Ati, there is also an official closed source
driver available. Nvidia's one is often considered to be better of
these. If 3D performance on Fedora is important to you right now,
Nvidia may be the best choice.

Your choice depends a lot on what you want from your card on Fedora.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade 
 screen?

.. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it
from being a reliable method to upgrade to Fedora 10.

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rhythmbox software is lacking

2009-06-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
I don't know about F10 and F11 but of F9 rhythmbox is the only CD
reading software that refuses to load CD information like a playlist.
Can someone explain how to make it work properly.?
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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote:
On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 David wrote:
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.

 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?

 And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank
 list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10.  That
 sucks.

 Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show
 topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release?

 That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to use
 the machine.  It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the day is
 out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us)
 repertoire.  But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs. 
 This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days,
 so why can't an F8 install build it?

 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.

 Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :(

For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.

I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.

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That was my point, David.  F9 or F10 is not being presented as an option in 
preupgrade, the only thing you can do is check the box for bleeding edge and 
chose rawhide.  That has a very high vacuum rating IMO.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
David wrote:
 
 
 For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
 preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.
 
 I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
 eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
 Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.
 
Not long after Fedora 10 was released, I did an upgrade from Fedora
8 to Fedora 10 with no problems. But I did not have an option to
upgrade to Fedora 9.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade
 screen?

.. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it
from being a reliable method to upgrade to Fedora 10.

Rahul

From an uptodate F8 install?  This pix is still blurry...

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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
  TL capability
 
 Texture and Lighting capability.
 
 While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
 generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
 pasted verbatim.
 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22
 
 Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it.

As the OP, I had never heard of TL and am certainly no gamer,
but that is what the error log complains of.
As far as I can see, it is a standard acronym,
and it would be as odd to call it Texture and Lighting
as it would be to call PCI whatever PCI stands for.

Which reminds me - apparently there is a second hurdle
I have to get over, which is to distinguish between PCI and PCI-E.
I think the Asus K8V-MX motherboard I am concerned with
provides PCI slots, not PCI-E.

Also there is something about AGP, but I'm not sure
how significant that is, or if it is universal nowadays.

Graphics cards are much more complicated than I thought.



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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:

 I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:

 1. Cheap

 There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
 
 2. TL capability

 I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently
 available will have this, and be able to run Sims 2. I'd ask the shop
 salesperson if you can test the card.
 
 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
 I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open
 source drivers to the community. Currently new RadeonHD cards will
 work quite nicely, but especially on Fedora 10 there is little
 hardware acceleration offered. At least for my Radeon HD3650, Fedora
 11 provides some 2D hardware acceleration, and 3D OpenGL acceleration
 is also in the works.
 
 Your choice depends a lot on what you want from your card on Fedora.

Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode,
my needs are minimal. 

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Re: ipv6 question

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Michael Fleming wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2009 23:38:52 +0200
Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi

I just want to ask one big question :)

If I would have an IPv6 address [home pc, behind a router -
supporting ipv6 e.g.: openwrt, ISP gives ipv6], then I can see an
IPv6 address with ifconfig, on the PC e.g.: Z
So that's my very unique address. - Z

Can that be seen on the internet, the Z address? so anyone can
ping me from outside, or do an nmap?


Yes, if the IPv6 address has a global prefix (2001:: 2002:: etc) -
fe80:: etc are link local addresses and are site specific - they
won't be available to the wider Internet.

I have a related question. If I set up a tunnel to forward IPv6 thru IPv4, the 
existing setups seem to use part of my IPv4 address as part of the IPv6 address. 
Fair enough, but is there some way to get a permanent IPv6 allocation, such that 
if my primary ISP goes out for any reason, I can use my secondary instead? I'd 
like to set up some servers on VMs in my DMZ[1] for testing.



Or are there private addresses what the router gives to my pc.: eg.:
with ipv4 a router could give 192.168.1.10... and that IP couldn't be
pinged/nmapped from outside (More Secure???)
Because I heard that there will be no NAT with IPv6?


There's no NAT in IPv6, at least in the traditional IPv4 way.

 If you're only getting fe80:: et. al addresses (the link-local
 addresses as above) you should be fine however.


What will happen to e.g.: a windows xp pc using IPv6? The C$, D$
shares will be visible to anyone if they know the password?
sorry for the trivial question... :S :) and thank you for any answer


If the host isn't firewalled and has globally routed IPv6 allocations
then yes they would be available (they'd need to know Administrator
passwords for the admin shares above though)


[1] DMZ is setup like this:

Internet--(firewall)--[DMZ network, public servers]--(firewall)--pvt_net

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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Cox

 Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode,
 my needs are minimal. 
 
In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for
most boards). Even though the Nvidia reverse engineered 2D driver has no
3D support and is a bit patchy for render and fancy effects but quite
solid for plain old fashioned 2D rectangles.

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else,
 but don't see any way to do this under Linux.
 
 AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail
 contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have
 never had to copy stuff from one to another.

I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list
under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in
as the other user, again under Windows.

I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully.


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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Rick Stevens

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:

TL capability

Texture and Lighting capability.

While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
pasted verbatim.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22

Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it.


As the OP, I had never heard of TL and am certainly no gamer,
but that is what the error log complains of.
As far as I can see, it is a standard acronym,
and it would be as odd to call it Texture and Lighting
as it would be to call PCI whatever PCI stands for.

Which reminds me - apparently there is a second hurdle
I have to get over, which is to distinguish between PCI and PCI-E.
I think the Asus K8V-MX motherboard I am concerned with
provides PCI slots, not PCI-E.


Try dmidecode | grep -i pci and see.  PCI Express = PCI-E.  My
M3N78-VM has both:

[r...@hamster ~]# dmidecode | grep -i pci
PCI is supported
Designation: PCIEX1
Type: 32-bit PCI Express
Designation: PCIEX16
Type: 32-bit PCI Express
Designation: PCI1
Type: 32-bit PCI
Designation: PCI2
Type: 32-bit PCI


Also there is something about AGP, but I'm not sure
how significant that is, or if it is universal nowadays.


A lot of video cards plug into AGP slots.  dmidecode can tell you.


Graphics cards are much more complicated than I thought.


Heheheheh!  Amen, bruddah!
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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 3:11 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
 2009/6/1 David dgbo...@comcast.net:

 For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
 preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.

 I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
 eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
 Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.
 
 Is rawhide frozen till after F11 is released?
 
 Just want to be sure I'm not upgrading to something over F11.
 


If you have been using Rawhide, from the Fedora 11 RC or 'by hand' what
you have will be Fedora 11, technically already is, when Fedora 11 is
released.

It takes a configuration change, done on purpose by the user, to stay
with Rawhide.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
David wrote:

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?
 
 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.

 Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offered as an option. There
 is no Fedora 11 release. Yet.
 
 And Joe Average User should not be using Rawhide if he can not figure
 out what you just described as not obvious.

I suggest that if you are giving advice
you should say as clearly and as fully as possible
what the user needs to do,
regardless of your opinion of their intelligence.


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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Jim wrote:

On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote:

2009/6/1 suvayu alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
  

2009/6/1 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net:


Modules that are loading

p54usb 14208  0
p54common  20452  1 p54usb
mac80211  194224  2 p54usb,p54common

   

As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54/devices

 

A correction there, on scrolling down I see your device is listed, but
has a different name for the firmware. So the revised steps should be,

download the firmware for 'miniPCI / PCMCIA' and rename it to 'isl3886'

and *not* isl3890usb. Sorry for the mix-up mate.

GL

   

But the device I have is a  WUSB54G is a USB device.
The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is 
the isl3886usb

but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb
Am I missing something here ?

Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 box here, shouldn't  this 
firmware be located in /lib64/firmware ?



Firmware has nothing to do with the OS or mode of the CPU, it runs in the 
device. /lib/firmware does it.


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Re: Blocking an IP for one user

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Paul wrote:

Hi,

My son is getting to that funny age whereby I need to keep certain
sites away from him.

Is there any way that I can block an IP address or certain keywords from
his user settings so that it doesn't matter which browser he uses, he
can't access them?

For example, I want to block the BBC websites wholesale or anything with
the words Microsoft, MSN or Hotmail in the URL - you get the idea - but
also an IP range such as 172.168.*.*

You can add one line to iptables to log every outgoing TCP connect at the sync 
level, and then just browse the list in the log. Knowing you are doing this will 
help him learn about anonymous redirection networks, proxies, etc. It is 
unlikely that you will keep him in check unless you simply block everything 
except pure content.


If you block the BBC don't let him read the papers either, they report on sex 
and senseless violence.


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Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi,

Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right
approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE.

How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it?
Would you find a Fedora LXDE Live CD useful? Would it still be useful if
it was a combined Xfce + LXDE Live CD?

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Suvayu Ali

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else,
but don't see any way to do this under Linux.

AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail
contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have
never had to copy stuff from one to another.


I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list
under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in
as the other user, again under Windows.

I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully.



Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is 
install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your 
contacts.


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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 22:31 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else,
  but don't see any way to do this under Linux.
  
  AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail
  contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have
  never had to copy stuff from one to another.
 
 I'm afraid my solution was to Backup my contacts list
 under Windows XP Skype, and Restore the file when logged in
 as the other user, again under Windows.
 
 I didn't see this offered under Linux, but I didn't look very carefully.

We appear to be speaking at cross purposes. I don't understand what you
mean by Backup my contacts list and restore the file. Didn't you try
simply logging into Skype on the second machine, without copying
anything? To repeat, that's all I've ever had to do and all my contacts
just follow me around. I've done this on Linux, MacOS and Windows.

poc

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is
 install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your
 contacts.

Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype
accounts, not merely a new system user who uses the same Skype
account.

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Re: Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram
sunda...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right
 approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE.

 How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it?
 Would you find a Fedora LXDE Live CD useful? Would it still be useful if
 it was a combined Xfce + LXDE Live CD?

 Rahul


I've just started using it on my EEEPC 701 because many of the gnome
configuration screens don't work well with 480 vertical resolution. Also,
it's a little more snappy.

Richard
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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Suvayu Ali

Jud Craft wrote:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:

Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is
install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your
contacts.


Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype
accounts, not merely a new system user who uses the same Skype
account.



I don't think that would be possible by just copying over a file 
locally. The contacts have to be present on their servers associated 
with the new account. Having it locally wouldn't be enough. Isn't that 
correct?


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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote:
On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote:
 On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 David wrote:
 Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I
 have to wait another week?

 Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

 How to use PreUpgrade

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

 This will take a while. A long while.

 Assuming you have to check the Display unstable test releases
 and then choose Rawhide,
 why not say this?

 And it should pointed out that if this is not checked, you have a blank
 list, it is NOT possible to select from an uptodate F8 to F10.  That
 sucks.

 Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show
 topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release?

 That smacks of a rather massive insult to those of us who just want to
 use the machine.  It better work or there will be YAKubuntuI before the
 day is out. All I wanted to do was add fmit to its (F8 on a HP dv5120us)
 repertoire.  But F8 doesn't have libasound which the fmit build needs.
 This F10 built it ok, and fmit itself hasn't been touched since F6 days,
 so why can't an F8 install build it?

 It may be obvious to you,
 but would not be to many Fedora users.

 Yeah, obviously getting rawhide shoved down our throats. :(

 For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a
 preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems.

 I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be,
 eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no problems.
 Just time consuming. No one 'forced' me to do an upgrade to Rawhide.

 --


  David

 That was my point, David.  F9 or F10 is not being presented as an option
 in preupgrade, the only thing you can do is check the box for bleeding
 edge and chose rawhide.  That has a very high vacuum rating IMO.

Where did you 'get' the preupgrade.

F8 repo via yumex.

The Fedora 9 that I started with Saturday came with preupgrade. I clean
installed Fedora 9 and did updates to current. When I ran preupgrade, in
Fedora 9, I was offered Fedora 10 or, by checking the box, Rawhide (to
be Fedora 11). Since the Fedora 10 was up-to-date it's preupgrade
offered 'nothing' except the check box that get 'Rawhide'.

There was a bug for some, IIRC, with preupgrade in Fedora 9 to Fedora
10. Some but not all.

Fedora would never 'force' you to use Rawhide. Although it kicks the
poo, IMO, out of Fedora 10. Many changes and improvements. I run Rawhide
all of the time anyway.
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Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim

FC10
How do you treat  a l3886usb.arm firmware package in Fedora.
How do you install it into /lib/firmware ?

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Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm
 not going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing
 out an expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of only
 Linux on my systems.

There are really cheap scanners or multifunction printers now, and chances
are they'll work better and provide a higher resolution than your old model
even if you payed a lot for it at the time.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote:
 If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they
 will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told
 them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux,
 and be cost justified.

You shouldn't have bought hardware not supported by GNU/Linux in the first
place. Now you blame others for being unable to fix your or your clients'
screwups.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gene Heskett wrote:
 Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show
 topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release?

F8's preupgrade is extremely buggy and out of date. (It was beta at the
time, F9 is the first release where it's really usable.) But it will not
get fixed as F8 is no longer supported. You should have already upgraded.

I'd suggest just using another upgrade method.

Kevin Kofler

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