Fedora Electronic Lab 11 Leonidas Released
Fedora Project - This week announced [1] the availability of Fedora 11 Leonidas and its spins. These spins provide different flavours of Fedora 11 targeting specific users and applications. The fourth consecutive release of Fedora Electronic Lab is part of those spins, offering the best hardware design and simulation experience with opensource EDA software. Fedora Electronic Lab 11 Leonidas provides a vibrant environment for designing and simulating ASIC design and embedded design. The opensource EDA solutions are composed to satify high-end mixed-signal hardware design flows from design specification to final project handoff. This release comprises Perl modules to facilitate both design, HDL code generation and brings additional support for Engineering Change Order (ECO). After post chip fabrication, evaluation boards of those chips can also be designed. Advantages * Deployable in both development and production environments. * No kernel patches are required, making it easy to deploy and use. * No licenses required and it is free. Key Highlights Existing RPM packages were updated improve design experience in terms of development time and debugging. The key highlights of the major development items puts the quality barrier higher than the previous releases: * Perl modules to extend vhdl and verilog support. These Perl modules together with gtkwave improves chip testing support. * Perl parsers for VHDL, Verilog and SystemC. * Introduced collaborative development solutions. * Introduction of Verilog-AMS modeling into ngspice. * Improved VHDL debugging support with gcov. * Improved support for re-usable HDL packages as IP core. * Improved PLI support on both iverilog and ghdl * Introduction of C-based methodologies for HDL testbenches and models. * Improved co-simulation based hardware design. * Introduction of design tools for DSP design flow. Eclipse, the comprehensive Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for embedded systems is also part of the collection. This IDE is included for the first time on the Livedvd (but available since a long time on Fedora repositories) entails plugins for C++, Perl and Version Control systems (CVS,GIT,SVN). Download the Fedora Electronic Lab 11 flyer for additional details [3] . Userbase * Students/researchers * Lecturers * Analog/Digital/Mixed Signal hardware designers (even Test engineers) * System Electronic Engineers * Project Coordinators * New opensource EDA developers * Field application engineers About Fedora Electronic Lab Fedora Electronic Lab is Fedora's high-end hardware design and simulation platform. This platform provides different hardware design flows based on the semiconductor industry's current trend. FEL maps in new design, simulation and verification methodologies with opensource EDA software. For more information and download, go to the website [2]. [1]: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg6.html [2]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/fel-flyer-f11.pdf This announcement in pictures: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-electronic-lab-11-leonidas.html -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Re: x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum
Paul Jakma wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Warren Togami wrote: setarch i386 chroot /path/to/i586root Do this and yum will behave properly. Ok, that should improve things if I want to do a series of installs. Thanks! It's still extra typing though. Also, any ideas on having the x86_64 kernel auto-updated (while keeping userpsace i586)? regards, in fedora.repo\updates.repo you could try adding excludepkgs=kernel* Maybe create a 64bit repo with includepkgs=kernel(64) Open to correction on this. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:17:07 -0400, Jeremy wrote: [1] So, the gory history for those who might be interested. Eight years ago (!), we decided that the advantage of not having to rerun lilo after changing the config file as you can just read the config file off the filesystem with grub was worthwhile. Why is GRUB reinstalled with every kernel update then? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2009-06-08 x86_64
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:06:50 -0500, Matt wrote: Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for x86_64 using the first rawhide of the Fedora 12 development cycle, cut on 6/8/2008. Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/ audacious-1.5.1-8.fc12 (build/make) ertzing audacious-plugin-fc-0.3-2 (build/make) mschwendt audacious-plugins-1.5.1-5.fc12 (build/make) ertzing Rawhide snapshot is too old. The needed pkg is tagged dist-f12 since 2009-06-05. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2009-06-08 x86_64
Op donderdag 11-06-2009 om 10:25 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Richard W.M. Jones: mingw32-libxslt-1.1.24-7.fc12 (build/make) epienbro,rjones This is quite strange. Has there been a change to /usr/bin/install recently? The Makefile is doing: /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 exslt.h exsltconfig.h exslt.h exsltconfig.h exsltexports.h '/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/mingw32-libxslt-1.1.24-7.fc12.i386/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/libexslt' /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/mingw32-libxslt-1.1.24-7.fc12.i386/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/libexslt/exslt.h' with `exslt.h' /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/mingw32-libxslt-1.1.24-7.fc12.i386/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/libexslt/exsltconfig.h' with `exsltconfig.h' This one has just been fixed. It seems to be caused by a more strict /bin/install in combination with a Makefile.am which tried to install these files two times. I added a patch for the Makefile.am [1] after which the build succeeded. Regards, Erik van Pienbroek [1]: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/mingw32-libxslt/devel/mingw32-libxslt-ftbfs.patch?view=markup -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Hello All! I've got some issues with Xogr on F-11. On order to fix (or properly describe them in bugzilla, at least) I need to change some parameters of Xorg, and the only way to make it (AFAIK) is to change values in xorg.conf. Also I need to restart X as usial (ctrl+alt+backpsace) So I have the following questions: * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? * How to change options for my xorg-x11-drv-ati ? * How to dump current config from running Xorg? * How to use config instead of relying on built-in or autodetected options? PS I think that no need to describe, how I hate those guys, who decided to disable ctrl+alt+backpsace. -- With best regards! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Hi, 2009/6/11 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com Hello All! I've got some issues with Xogr on F-11. On order to fix (or properly describe them in bugzilla, at least) I need to change some parameters of Xorg, and the only way to make it (AFAIK) is to change values in xorg.conf. Also I need to restart X as usial (ctrl+alt+backpsace) So I have the following questions: * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ * How to change options for my xorg-x11-drv-ati ? * How to dump current config from running Xorg? * How to use config instead of relying on built-in or autodetected options? PS I think that no need to describe, how I hate those guys, who decided to disable ctrl+alt+backpsace. -- With best regards! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Oscar Osta Pueyo -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
2009/6/11 Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com: Hi, * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ Unfortunately, I don't use nor Gnome, neither KDE. -- With best regards! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Too eager?
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:30:37 -0400, James wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 20:22 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: Given you are trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file. And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python 2.6? I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for F-11. As I said: 1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing 2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum cat EOL | yum shell upgrade install yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm run EOL #1 means you'll get all the other updates from updates-testing, #2 is more typing. In #2 one also needs --enablerepo=updates-testing instead of --repoid=... and one must be very careful with typos. If Yum cannot find the packages given to it via install, it fails badly with an interrupted transaction and (in case of F10 = F11) an unreadible RPM DB that needs manual repair. Thanks for the suggestions. However the first fails as before, and the second fails due to libvte being broken, which I understand is being fixed. -- in your fear, speak only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for you. From the Common F11 Bugs, under Miscellaneous problems with Intel graphics adapters : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that file does not exist, you can run system-config-display as root to create it. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Too eager?
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:08:00 -0500, Jon wrote: 1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing 2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum cat EOL | yum shell upgrade install yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm run EOL #1 means you'll get all the other updates from updates-testing, #2 is more typing. In #2 one also needs --enablerepo=updates-testing instead of --repoid=... and one must be very careful with typos. If Yum cannot find the packages given to it via install, it fails badly with an interrupted transaction and (in case of F10 = F11) an unreadible RPM DB that needs manual repair. Thanks for the suggestions. However the first fails as before, and the second fails due to libvte being broken, which I understand is being fixed. For #2 you need to _disable_ updates-testing, that's why you enable it only for yumdownloader. Due to the vte breakage you cannot enable it permanently for the upgrade, but you also need the newer ntp* packages from updates-testing. The release of F11 could have been much smoother for those who upgrade via Yum. Violated upgrade paths are bad. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
2009/6/11 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: I'm interested. Migration to texlive was discussed here before. Died after nobody wanted to try to inspect licences of all the packages, IIRC. Well, it's not so much that (Tom Callaway actually did go through a number of the files packaged). The problem is that the way in which texlive is put together makes it totally miserable from a distribution packaging perspective, essentially dumping a vast ammount of upstream tarballs into one tarball. This in turn makes it a really horrific job from a license auditing point of view. In my opinion, the root of the problem(s) from a distribution packaging POV is that texlive is itself a distribution with its own package format and manager etc. which has no integration with distribution packaging systems. Roughly and broadly speaking this is how things are right now (grossly oversimplified): 1) Texlive amalgamates and consumes vast numbers of upstream packages. 2) These packages are are unpacked and built into a build tree, and texlive folk also add their own modifications and patches to integrate the whole lot into a useable system. This build tree pretty much defines the filesystem layout. 3) the buildtree componenets are distributed as texlive packages using their packaging format. For distributions the buildtree is more or less made available in a couple of big tarballs. For any other software, Fedora would expect to be doing part 2 itself, and this is where the problem lies. What I believe we need to work on is expanding the tool set used for 2 by texlive such that they can be used inside RPM packaging in order to allow us to control packaging ourselves, working from the true upstreams, rather than the tarballs of the texlive sandbox. The trick is to also take advantage of the integration work done by the texlive folks. The problem is, this is an awful lot of work. I have made stabs at starting it, but, well, paid work and sleep are the enemy of Fedora contributions. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10
On Thursday, June 11 2009, Michael Schwendt said: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:17:07 -0400, Jeremy wrote: [1] So, the gory history for those who might be interested. Eight years ago (!), we decided that the advantage of not having to rerun lilo after changing the config file as you can just read the config file off the filesystem with grub was worthwhile. Why is GRUB reinstalled with every kernel update then? It's not. grubby is run, but that's just a tool that modifies your grub.conf to reflect the new kernel that's been installed Jeremy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning Packages: audacious and dependencies
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:09:24 -0300, Paulo wrote: I would create a symbolic link audacious - audacious2, so the previous bin can still be called. AFAIK, this is not done in Debian/Ubuntu either. The .desktop file has been renamed, too, and additionally the Fedora --vendor fedora has had to be dropped (or else one would need to keep such patches, which deviate from upstream, forever). The manual pages have been renamed to audtool2 and audacious2. I would also call the libs package libs2, so the previous lib package do not need to be removed during the upgrade. That would create an orphan, an obsolete audacious-libs package which is not tied to any current src.rpm package, and which could cause problems in the future (such as unresolvable deps). http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/audacious-2.0.1-0.1.fc10.src.rpm http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/audacious-plugins-2.0.1-0.3.fc10.src.rpm (updated) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
JL == Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org writes: JL On 06/02/2009 07:27 AM, Jindrich Novy wrote: New version texlive-2008 (to be in f12): one single texlive package generating 3944 subpackages / 1065 MiB JL Oh. My. God. Please read the whole thread; that was the initial proposal, not the final one. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora 11 and nvidia driver
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, sorry if it isn't I want to upgrade my fedora 10 to the new release, but i've read that the new driver for nvidia cards is presenting some issues https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-suspend https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-agp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nvidia-vmalloc and the question is if after upgrade,is yum going to install that driver on my system?, I have the propietary driver installed and I do not want to change that and if so, is there any option to avoid this situation Atentamente Oscar: -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I didn't see this before but I can only agree with the replies: NM this is an insane plan. Nobody is ever going to review properly a NM 2.7 MiB spec file, updating will be hell, etc. Isn't it nice, then that the final plan is different from the initially proposed one? I see that you read the thread, so why bother commenting on something that's not currently being proposed? - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
hi, In Apache Benchmark: Ubuntu was able to sustain more than 58% more requests per second than Fedora 11 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=fedora11_ubuntu904_perfnum=2 -thanks- regards, -- Polycommander, Erkowit, Urquiola, Andros Patria, Cason, Aegean Sea, Prestige, ... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora PPC console=? to get serial console
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Richard W.M. Jonesrjo...@redhat.com wrote: (Posting here because the fedora-ppc list is a bit overrun with spam http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/fedora-ppc/ ) Does anyone know what 'console=...' parameter I should give the Fedora PPC kernel to get it to use a serial console? Debian uses the non-standard form console=ttyPZ0 That is for the special G5 serial cards I believe. I've also seen console=hvc0 mentioned. Obviously I also tried console=ttyS0. hvc0 is for machines like POWER4/5/6 and possibly a couple others. None of the above seem to work ... I'm using qemu-system-ppc, not a real machine. I have no idea. I've never used that and the last time I looked it was emulating some kind of really old system we don't even support. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updates testing for F-11
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Bruno Wolff IIIbr...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:44:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 06/11/2009 07:39 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes: Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been submitted for F-11 testing are still pending. Any ideas why that is? I meant to say, submitted over a week ago. They are probably waiting on rel-eng to sign the packages. If you can be more specific, it would be easier to tell you what the status is. It may also be a case of not wanting to produce more churn right at release time. Not really, but I like that theory so I will claim it's true. Unfortunately, rawhide has been taking multiple days to spit out. Combine that with the fact that the two people that do sign/push for updates were both in a FAD this week and you get a bit less response time. I tried to do an updates push earlier this week and it hit some errors. That needs to be fixed and resumed. I won't be able to get to this until Sunday at the earliest. If Jesse or Luke want to fix that up, it might help. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Jeff Spaletajspal...@gmail.com wrote: Why did you cherry pick the bad news instead of the summary? Likely for the same reasons we have a bug tracker instead of a 'what works list'. But I agree, Fedora performed quite favourably especially taking into consideration the database benchmarks. -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
The question becomes what is significantly different in the Apache test? Is the Apache test essentially a network i/o test? What is significantly different here that would not end up being tracked to an upstream kernel networking stack regression? Is the apache performance collatoral damage from selinux related latency?Something else in userspace slowing Apache down. I've no idea. I can't imagine its compiler related options on the Apache binaries. Without knowing how exactly the benchmark works I would guess that most of those apache requests are kernel calls so SELinux _might_ make a huge difference here. Perhaps somebody from the SELinux team should tell phoronix about it (and to _always_ test with SELinux disabled to measure the price of security). signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 11 and nvidia driver
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:58 AM, OscarSokersoke...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is the right place to ask, sorry if it isn't This is more for issues related to the development of Fedora rather than end-user questions I want to upgrade my fedora 10 to the new release, but i've read that the new driver for nvidia cards is presenting some issues https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-suspend https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-agp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nvidia-vmalloc and the question is if after upgrade,is yum going to install that driver on my system?, I have the propietary driver installed and I do not want to change that and if so, is there any option to avoid this situation You should not be affected by the nouvaeu bugs when using the proprietary drivers, and the nvidia one seems to have quite a simple work-around. How the upgrade works will largely be dependant on how you installed it - but I'd guess the safest way would be disabling using the nvidia drivers when doing the upgrade. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 11 and nvidia driver
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, OscarSoker wrote: I don't know if this is the right place to ask, sorry if it isn't I want to upgrade my fedora 10 to the new release, but i've read that the new driver for nvidia cards is presenting some issues https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-suspend https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nouveau-agp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#nvidia-vmalloc and the question is if after upgrade,is yum going to install that driver on my system?, I have the propietary driver installed and I do not want to change that and if so, is there any option to avoid this situation rpmfusion has the proprietary driver packaged. I use it with Fedora-11. Paul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
2009/6/12 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: Without knowing how exactly the benchmark works I would guess that most of those apache requests are kernel calls so SELinux _might_ make a huge difference here. Shouldn't be overly hard to test as phoronix-test-suite is available in Fedora's repository. I'd run it, but my system at the moment won't play nicely with SELinux. Perhaps somebody from the SELinux team should tell phoronix about it (and to _always_ test with SELinux disabled to measure the price of security). Would kind of defeat the purpose of out of the box benchmarking of the distros. Just like how phoronix didn't change Ubuntu's filesystem to ext4 when comparing it against Fedora. -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
Eric Springer wrote: 2009/6/12 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: Without knowing how exactly the benchmark works I would guess that most of those apache requests are kernel calls so SELinux _might_ make a huge difference here. Shouldn't be overly hard to test as phoronix-test-suite is available in Fedora's repository. I'd run it, but my system at the moment won't play nicely with SELinux. Perhaps somebody from the SELinux team should tell phoronix about it (and to _always_ test with SELinux disabled to measure the price of security). Would kind of defeat the purpose of out of the box benchmarking of the distros. Just like how phoronix didn't change Ubuntu's filesystem to ext4 when comparing it against Fedora. True, though over and over again I see things where I wish they'd at least dig into the discrepancies they find, rather than just reporting numbers. -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
Le jeudi 11 juin 2009 à 12:17 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit : NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I didn't see this before but I can only agree with the replies: NM this is an insane plan. Nobody is ever going to review properly a NM 2.7 MiB spec file, updating will be hell, etc. Isn't it nice, then that the final plan is different from the initially proposed one? I see that you read the thread, so why bother commenting on something that's not currently being proposed? I didn't notice at first that archive threading was broken and that you had bits of the thread right and left. Also, I didn't see any clear final plan in the list archives -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:17 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for you. From the Common F11 Bugs, under Miscellaneous problems with Intel graphics adapters : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that file does not exist, you can run system-config-display as root to create it. I'm glad to see people referring to the common bugs page - yay :) However, I have to admit that's one of my more hand-wavey moments (I wrote that bit) - I was in a hurry and didn't check whether a) system-config-display is actually installed by default (it may not be, and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not have a network connection in order to install it...) and b) whether it runs in console mode. I should probably investigate and come up with a more comprehensive, hand-holdy note. I believe running Xorg -configure as root from *outside* of X will create a /root/xorg.conf.new file which you can move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , as an alternative method. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Eric Springererik...@gmail.com wrote: Likely for the same reasons we have a bug tracker instead of a 'what works list'. But I agree, Fedora performed quite favourably especially taking into consideration the database benchmarks. The problem with knowing that Phoronix got a head scratching result for Apache.. doesn't really tell us anything useful. If I were going to treat this as a bugreport I would have liked to have seen at least a me too effort to confirm the result from the person...contributing..the benchmark snippet. I personally have very little faith in the laypress's ability to communicate information developers can actually use to make sense of unexpected problems as its in their own interests to sit on those problems and write about them outside of the affect project's communication and bug reporting processes. If this is going to be taken seriously an actual tester or contributor needs to start trying to confirm it..someone who can be relied on to work with the package maintainers and developers. The laypress reviewers who do things like run benchmarks are as a breed highly unreliable when it comes to actually HELPING diagnose the problem. Numbers for the sake of numbers isn't the point. The benchmarks are only as useful as your commitment to followup on diagnosing potential problems. The laypress continues to miss the point about having an open development process by which users can engage with developers. I live for the day when each and every problem reported in articles written by the technical laypress, comes with cross-referenced links to bug reports opened by the laypress journalists who discovered the problem so the discussion on the diagnose of the problem can continue where the right people..the people who can provide and integrate a solution..can actually deal with it. No the technical laypress isn't actually interested in seeing problems solved...they just want to find things talk about. The worst part is there's no obvious place to start looking for a difference for the Apache benchmark. The article doesn't make any suggestions as to where the difference is. Unlike the filesystem tests where there is a clear difference in underlying system configurations and even Phoronix picked up on it as a probable cause. Numbers for the sake of numbers. Do they even understand how to interpret their own test suite as a diagnostic tool? I guess what we really need is the same test run on stock F10 and F11 on the same hardware and see if there is a regression there. If its selinux latency they'll both be impacted and it should be a wash. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
Le jeudi 11 juin 2009 à 20:38 +0300, Jussi Lehtola a écrit : On Fedora 11 $ yum search fonts|wc -l 467 Actually $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatprovides font(*) | sed s +-[0-9]*:.*++g|wc -l 233 And every single package listed here was re-done for F11 because we only introduced the means to autodetect font provides during this cycle (and a lot of them were re-reviewed because of srpm naming changes) This is less than 1/4 of the amount of packages Tex Live will bring. So what? This is not the upper limit of what can be reviewed. This upper limit is not known because we didn't manage to saturate the font review queue yet. What is missing is font packagers, not reviewers. It is very easy for a single person to review many packages as long as they follow strictly a simple well-known pre-approved template. You basically just run diff or meld and check the licensing is acceptable. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
Le jeudi 11 juin 2009 à 19:17 +0100, Jonathan Underwood a écrit : 2009/6/11 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: The amount of work can probably be reduced by killing the source packages (we have srpms for that) and only shipping the most recent font formats (TEX people like to ship the same font in 2-3 different formats, that only encourages users not to convert to the latest one) The (La)TeX stack has varying levels of support for different font formats such that, at present, killing off any particular format is, sadly, probably not possible. The situation is evolving in the right direction though :). Though in Fedora we usually optimize new tech at the expense of legacy stragglers, and not the other way around :) If killing old font formats can help push a new TeX stack sooner (even if it misses a few bits that still expect legacy fonts) I'm all for it. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora PPC console=? to get serial console
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 19:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It's useful to be able to run Fedora on qemu-system-ppc, if only because it allows me to track down build problems that only affect the ppc builders. (Which in fact is what got me into this in the first place). btw, we don't currently have a howto: debug failing builds on esoteric architectures. Is it as simple as running mock $ mock -r fedora-11-ppc package.srpm and testing the binaries with $ qemu-system ./binary ? -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning Packages: audacious and dependencies
On 06/11/2009 06:28 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:09:24 -0300, Paulo wrote: I would create a symbolic link audacious - audacious2, so the previous bin can still be called. AFAIK, this is not done in Debian/Ubuntu either. The .desktop file has been renamed, too, and additionally the Fedora --vendor fedora has had to be dropped (or else one would need to keep such patches, which deviate from upstream, forever). The manual pages have been renamed to audtool2 and audacious2. I agree, lets just stick with what upstream does and drop the old binary names completely. I would also call the libs package libs2, so the previous lib package do not need to be removed during the upgrade. That would create an orphan, an obsolete audacious-libs package which is not tied to any current src.rpm package, and which could cause problems in the future (such as unresolvable deps). +1 Regards, Hans -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning Packages: audacious and dependencies
On 06/04/2009 12:29 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:31:27 -0300, Paulo wrote: Hi. As I don't have the time to maintain audacious any more I'm orphaning the following packages: audacious audacious-plugins libmowgli mcs The last two are dependencies which, as far as I am aware, are used by nothing else. There is an accompanying package in the Voldemort Repository which contains the less free and more useful media codecs. That would be up for grabs, too, preferrably by the same person. There are several bugs open against the package, most of which will probably be fixed by the current upstream release. I have some limited interest in Audacious only, because it's one of the music players I use from time to time. I would be willing to examine the current state of the Fedora packages, the currently open bugs, and take a look at the new stable 2.0 series, too. The 1.5 series has been declared legacy. Cool, As an audacious user I would be happy to co-maintain! Regards, Hans -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 14:34 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I should probably investigate and come up with a more comprehensive, hand-holdy note. My recollection is that s-c-d is not installed by default, but it does have --set and --noui switches that allow you to turn off any attempts to use a GUI mode while setting parameters. Indeed, I just confirmed that it's not installed by default (and noticed the --set and --noui parameters independently :) I believe running Xorg -configure as root from *outside* of X will create a /root/xorg.conf.new file which you can move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , as an alternative method. Just so! So you guys shamed me into doing it properly: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf let me know if you see any problems there. Or just fix them, it's a wiki. :) I'll be linking to it from anywhere which suggests creating an xorg.conf file. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: All Phoronix Test Suite[1] tests run in *local* host. NO net. Basically the apache test do: download http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/httpd-2.2.11.tar.gz and http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/benchmark-files/apache-ab-test-files-1.tar.gz then compile apache ; exec it and run ab: $ ab -n 50 -c 100 http://localhost:8088/test.html So they are grabbing some upstream vanilla version of apache, building -it- and benchmarking -it- on ubuntu and f11 and comparing the results. I don't know much about apache but I bet a default ./configure winds up with different builds depending on the build environment, which in this case is probably dictated by whatever the default generic OS intall contains. And this is useful how? Geez. Me, I'd rather know how -Fedora's- httpd fares against -Ubuntu's- httpd, but maybe I'm just nuts. -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On 06/11/2009 02:17 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: True, though over and over again I see things where I wish they'd at least dig into the discrepancies they find, rather than just reporting numbers. Seconded, I mean, wtf is this? with the test profiles that stress the system disk, Fedora 11 generally did much better -- in part due to the EXT4 file-system and newer Linux kernel. How much of it was the new kernel, and how much was the filesystem? It's just total speculation. It wouldn't be that hard to run some oprofile while running these tests. It almost makes me want to start a keep phoronix honest blog, we could start with that one bug you opened against their ext4 test (I presume the inaccurate benchmark is still up) -Eric -- James M. Leddy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Keyboard US Internacional
Em 10-06-2009 21:09, Kevin Kofler escreveu: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Please post the bug number to this list, so that we can correctly refute the bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505100 I just closed it as NOTABUG. Kevin Kofler Why in Fedora 1 to 9 it works ? Why it was changed and when ? -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
James M. Leddy wrote: On 06/11/2009 02:17 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: True, though over and over again I see things where I wish they'd at least dig into the discrepancies they find, rather than just reporting numbers. Seconded, I mean, wtf is this? with the test profiles that stress the system disk, Fedora 11 generally did much better -- in part due to the EXT4 file-system and newer Linux kernel. How much of it was the new kernel, and how much was the filesystem? It's just total speculation. It wouldn't be that hard to run some oprofile while running these tests. It almost makes me want to start a keep phoronix honest blog, we could start with that one bug you opened against their ext4 test (I presume the inaccurate benchmark is still up) It is, though they note the problem and link to my screed on their mailing list ;) It may be better to engage them, though, and try to make the tests more correct, transparent and relevant they do have a lot of momentum. Which makes the crazy stuff hurt even more. :) -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Xose Vazquez Perezxose.vazq...@gmail.com wrote: then compile apache ; exec it and run ab: $ ab -n 50 -c 100 http://localhost:8088/test.html So did they use the phoronix-test-suite that is packaged as part of fedora and used fedora packaged apache binaries? Or did they build their own local versions of everything outside of the Fedora build system. Knowing if they are testing Fedora built and packaged apache matters a lot in terms of interpretation. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Xose Vazquez Perezxose.vazq...@gmail.com wrote: then compile apache ; exec it and run ab: $ ab -n 50 -c 100 http://localhost:8088/test.html So did they use the phoronix-test-suite that is packaged as part of fedora and used fedora packaged apache binaries? Or did they build their own local versions of everything outside of the Fedora build system. They did not test Fedora or Ubuntu's httpd for the httpd test. They built and ran their own httpd from upstream, with a default ./configure; make; make install. If nothing else, the config.log from both builds would be interesting to compare. Knowing if they are testing Fedora built and packaged apache matters a lot in terms of interpretation. wait it's not obvious from the article graph? :) -Eric -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora PPC console=? to get serial console
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:49:03PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 19:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It's useful to be able to run Fedora on qemu-system-ppc, if only because it allows me to track down build problems that only affect the ppc builders. (Which in fact is what got me into this in the first place). btw, we don't currently have a howto: debug failing builds on esoteric architectures. Is it as simple as running mock $ mock -r fedora-11-ppc package.srpm and testing the binaries with $ qemu-system ./binary I'm pretty sure this won't work. mock would (via yum) try to install RPMs which had %post scripts that would need to run PPC binaries. Then the whole make/compiler would also be PPC binaries and so wouldn't run in mock. What I'm trying is to boot a Fedora PPC virtual machine, which I then log into and run mock (or rpmbuild or whatever) inside. - - - PPC64 is a complete mystery to me though. The errors I get from qemu seem to indicate that 'qemu-system-ppc64 -cpu ppc64' doesn't understand the 64 bit opcodes in the ppc64 kernel. But it claims to be emulating a PowerPC 970FX (which is a 64 bit processor, commonly known as the G5). Doesn't Fedora PPC64 have a 64 bit kernel and 32 bit userland? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
Eric Sandeen wrote:
I don't know much about apache but I bet a default ./configure winds up
with different builds depending on the build environment, which in this
case is probably dictated by whatever the default generic OS intall
contains.
And this is useful how? Geez.
Me, I'd rather know how -Fedora's- httpd fares against -Ubuntu's- httpd,
but maybe I'm just nuts.
I did *basic* ebizzy[1] tests on f10/f11, and f11 is 1/2 worse.
To compare run also against je[2], it is FreeBSD malloc.
Test env:
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2180 @ 2.00GHz
RAM: 3GB 800 MHz
CHIP: nvidia MCP73
Kernel command line: 1 selinux=0 audit=0
INIT: 1 and kill udev, no user process only bash
MODULES: kill all of them with # rmmod `lsmod | awk '{print $1}'`
more paranoic: # sync; echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
querida:~/k/ebizzy-0.3 # ./ebizzy -v
ebizzy 0.2
(C) 2006-7 Intel Corporation
(C) 2007 Valerie Henson v...@nmt.edu
always_mmap 0
never_mmap 0
chunks 10
prevent coalescing using permissions 0
prevent coalescing using holes 0
random_size 0
chunk_size 262144
seconds 10
threads 4
verbose 1
linear 0
touch_pages 0
page size 4096
Allocated memory
Wrote memory
Threads starting
== f10-glibc.test ==
100 runs
MIN: 7974 records/s
MAX: 12606 records/s
AVG: 10248.3 records/s
== f10-je.test ==
100 runs
MIN: 7282 records/s
MAX: 12116 records/s
AVG: 10085.6 records/s
== f11-glibc.test ==
100 runs
MIN: 5247 records/s
MAX: 6094 records/s
AVG: 5676.29 records/s
== f11-je.test ==
100 runs
MIN: 9904 records/s
MAX: 14019 records/s
AVG: 12106.8 records/s
[1] http://ebizzy.sf.net/
[2] http://www.canonware.com/~ttt/2008/08/stand-alone-jemalloc-for-linux.html
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Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Peter Lemenkov wrote: Unfortunately, I don't use nor Gnome, neither KDE. Then Ctrl+Alt+BkSp is supposed to be already working... It's supposed to be disabled by GNOME, or by KDE if custom keyboard layouts are enabled (and there you can also set the xkb option as in GNOME), it's enabled at boot time, so if nothing changes your layout settings, it'll stay enabled. If you're using some custom hack (direct setxkbmap call?) to change the keyboard layout, you'll need to fix that hack to set the relevant xkb option. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090612) FESCo meeting
Here's a list of topics for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place in #fedora-meeting on freenode at 17:00UTC. 160 Announce EOL date for F-9 162 Milestone Adjustment Proposal 161 Proposal for fedora-release version-release naming for rawhide For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
mount, blkid, df stopped resolving VGs
Hello, I recently upgraded my raid array from 4 to 5 disks, and mount no longer shows lv names but is /dev/dm-* style instead. My setup is lvm on softraid blkid, cat /proc/mounts, df, etc.. are all affected How can I recover the normal behavior? Is it really caused by my upgrade? I recreated /etc/blkid, /etc/lvm/.cache. I straced blkid (with no cache): it reads directly the data from /proc/partitions. cat /proc/partitions shows (edited for simplicity) major minor #blocks name 8 0 390711384 sda 8 11020096 sda1 816 390711384 sdb 8171020096 sdb1 832 195360984 sdc 833 1 sdc1 848 195360984 sdd 849 1 sdd1 864 976762584 sde 865 1 sde1 9 1 78171648 md1 253 02064384 dm-0 253 12064384 dm-1 253 2 10485760 dm-2 253 3 12484608 dm-3 253 44194304 dm-4 9 2 78171904 md2 9 01020032 md0 9 3 78171904 md3 253 5 136314880 dm-5 253 6 62914560 dm-6 253 7 37748736 dm-7 253 8 31457280 dm-8 253 9 20971520 dm-9 Should I file a bug? And if so, to which component example of output: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/dm-0 2.0G 505M 1.4G 27% / /dev/md0 981M 40M 891M 5% /boot /dev/dm-2 9.9G 5.8G 3.7G 62% /usr /dev/dm-1 2.0G 38M 1.9G 2% /tmp /dev/dm-3 12G 994M 11G 9% /var /dev/dm-16 20G 12G 6.8G 64% /var/www/html /dev/dm-15 36G 3.6G 32G 11% /home /dev/dm-17 60G 38G 19G 67% /home/alex/Images /dev/dm-18 20G 15G 3.9G 80% /home/alex/Mp3 /dev/dm-19 25G 21G 2.5G 90% /home/alex/vmware /dev/dm-11 20G 13G 6.7G 65% /backup/www /dev/dm-7 36G 3.6G 31G 11% /backup/home /dev/dm-6 60G 38G 19G 68% /backup/Images /dev/dm-9 20G 15G 3.8G 81% /backup/Mp3 /dev/dm-10 25G 173M 24G 1% /backup/vmware instead of FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/rootvg-rootlv 2.0G 505M 1.4G 27% / /dev/md0 981M 40M 891M 5% /boot /dev/mapper/rootvg-usrlv 9.9G 5.8G 3.7G 62% /usr /dev/mapper/rootvg-tmplv 2.0G 38M 1.9G 2% /tmp /dev/mapper/rootvg-varlv 12G 936M 11G 9% /var /dev/mapper/datavg-wwwlv 20G 12G 6.8G 64% /var/www/html /dev/mapper/datavg-homelv 36G 3.5G 32G 10% /home /dev/mapper/datavg-Imageslv 60G 38G 19G 67% /home/alex/Images /dev/mapper/datavg-mp3lv 20G 15G 3.9G 80% /home/alex/Mp3 /dev/mapper/datavg-vmwarelv 25G 21G 3.4G 86% /home/alex/vmware /dev/mapper/sauv2vg-mp3lv 20G 15G 3.8G 81% /backup/Mp3 Thank you in advance, Laurent -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 20:54 -0400 schrieb Josh Boyer: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Christoph Wickertchristoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Some updates are processed after a day, others not for two weeks. I'm a bit confused where your date is coming from. 2 weeks seems wrong lately. In fact, since I took over the push stuff, it's normally done daily or as often as the composes allow. Right now, the compose for f11-updates alone is 7-8 hours, so doing it daily often just doesn't work out. But 2 weeks seems wrong. OK, 12 days to be correct. You said it will not happen before the weekend, and if it happens on Sunday, two of my requests have reached 12 days. Also, signing server won't really help any of the above. Especially at release time this is annoying as some of the packages I submitted were bugfixes I wanted to be in the Xfce Spin. Another package was renamed, if it got pushed in time this would have happend smoothly between releases. So any chance we get a more reliable push mechanism? If by reliable you mean auto-pushed, maybe. Two options: More manpower or automatic pushes. For me it is important that I get a time frame that I can count on. But that would need auto-sign and an agreed upon schedule for updates and code. IMO this is something we should discuss on this list. We need to find a fine balance between pushing updates in time to make maintainers happy and not too many updates for the users. Maybe something like security/urgent updates daily, everything else once or twice a week. But this needs further discussion. And right now, we have a number of things that cause backend failures which necessitates manually fixing them. If you'd like to volunteer to code on bodhi and fix some of these, it would be most welcome. With the number of people currently working on it (2-3), it will be a while before we get to that point. I will see what I can do, but currently I'm swamped with other things, both Fedora (LinuxTag Berlin) and $dayjob. Also it will take some time for me to get involved in infrastructure, but if possible, I'll do it. josh Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GDM Language list...
- Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Well, there are languages we would support fine that don't have a specific language-support group (most anything that uses a Latin-1 like charset, and no specific input method.) Moreover, the groups that are installed aren't actually recorded anywhere on the installed system. (And having gdm attempt to discover/compute what groups are installed is completely impractical.) The YumLangpackPlugin Feature that I am planning to propose for F12 may help with this providing langpack-support metapackages. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin About the gdm menu itself I chatted to Ankit earlier in the week and came up with this rfe: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505484 asking if we could have some gdm system config to control which languages appear by default in the menu. Jens -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFE: Makefile.common patch to error out when no spec is present
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:23:25 -0700 Christopher Aillon cail...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/27/2009 03:07 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Monday 27 April 2009 04:54:56 pm Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:15:27 +0200 Karsten Hoppkars...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... This should fix builds from a single-distribution CVS tree which you can check out p.e. with 'cvs co F-11'. This broke one year ago with Makefile.common cvs release 1.95 as those changes didn't consider the different directory layout for the single-distribution CVS tree (p.e. it is .../vim/F-11 for the complete checkout but .../F-11/vim when you check out just one single distribution) Hum. I can't do a 'cvs co F-11' anymore... how do you get that part working? (I thought we broke that in trying to make the cvs modules file scale to the number of packages we have). we disabled vhecking out release modules, it was causing a huge slowdown in cvs actions. you can check out devel still i think but that is all. I think checking out release modules still needs to be possible. If that means we need to use a read-only mirror to facilitate this, I'd be okay with it, but not being able to check out a tree is a pretty bad regression that I just ran into. For the record, it would make doing moz security updates much more scriptable as I don't need to rely on people telling me when their packages need to be added/dropped to the auto rebuilds. Just a late followup to this. With some changes checked in tonight this should be possible again. a 'cvs co F-11' should get you all the F-11 branches of all packages. ;) (likewise F-9 , F-10, EL-4, EL-5 for epel). kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Matthew Garrett m...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 05:03:56PM -0500, King InuYasha wrote: Well, not necessarily Mac OS X itself. Wouldn't the Darwin kernel require it anyway? I have been installing Chameleon so I could boot the regular Darwin kernel and userland because I was told I needed a form of EFI to use the Darwin kernel. The Darwin kernel runs absolutely fine without EFI. -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org Oh, thanks. Then I guess I don't need that... That makes my life a lot easier. It is quite difficult to install chameleon without a Darwin system already on hand, and I cringe every time I have to do it... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updates testing for F-11
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:37:08PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: I tried to do an updates push earlier this week and it hit some errors. That needs to be fixed and resumed. I won't be able to get to this until Sunday at the earliest. If Jesse or Luke want to fix that up, it might help. I fixed the errors. luke -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 501854] Review Request: lcdf-typetools - The LCDF Typetools for manipulating OpenType fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501854 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||peter...@redhat.com Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+ --- Comment #4 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-06-11 04:00:25 EDT --- cvs done Summary should not repeat package name - suggest Tools for manipulating OpenType fonts. Also added fonts-sig to cc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 102652] Fonts in directory with name having underscore character in it, are not found
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102652 User nmailhot changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|''|'fedorafonts' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 466029] fonts.dir refers to non-existent .bdf files, breaking accesses
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466029 Göran Uddeborg goe...@uddeborg.se changed: What|Removed |Added Version|9 |11 --- Comment #2 from Göran Uddeborg goe...@uddeborg.se 2009-06-11 15:52:11 EDT --- The problem is exactly the same in Fedora 11 (fonts-KOI8-R-1.0-11.fc11.noarch). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 69129] Add support for Graphite font technology
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69129 User kpalagin changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'fedorafonts,hdu,nmailhot,|'fedorafonts,hdu,kpalagin, |pagalmes,pl,pmike,tessarak|nmailhot,pagalmes,pl,pmike |t'|,tessarakt' --- Additional comments from kpala...@openoffice.org Fri Jun 12 03:58:46 + 2009 --- kstribley, do we have an integration target for this feature? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477450] [rosegarden4] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477450 Orcan 'oget' Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag||needinfo?(nicolas.mail...@l ||aposte.net) --- Comment #7 from Orcan 'oget' Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com 2009-06-12 01:42:55 EDT --- Ping Nicolas? Can we close this bug now? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: [PATCH] Re-enable rawhide compose.
Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 23:20 +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Sure. What repo? I have a couple fedora-infra-related ones, but none that contain that file, and a few quick searches didn't show me the light. Oh, it's in puppet, wasn't sure if you had puppet access. Sorry I was short, a bit busy with the FAD and release. I'll circle back to this and get a diff from you at some point. From f044206b3d6d2c43c6ea5c16728841a9584e374c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jim Meyering meyer...@redhat.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:35:35 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] configs/build/rawhide: stop upon failure If mktemp, clone, or any other step fails, do not perform remaining steps. s/;/ /g --- configs/build/rawhide |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/configs/build/rawhide b/configs/build/rawhide index 4a90bb3..1cc949d 100644 --- a/configs/build/rawhide +++ b/configs/build/rawhide @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ # rawhide compose mailto=jkeat...@fedoraproject.org -15 6 * * * masher TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp/rawhide.XX` cd $TMPDIR; git clone -n git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/releng; cd releng; git checkout -b rawhide-stable; LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ./scripts/buildrawhide $(date +\%Y\%m\%d); sudo -u ftpsync /usr/local/bin/update-fullfilelist fedora +15 6 * * * masher TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp/rawhide.XX` cd $TMPDIR git clone -n git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/releng cd releng git checkout -b rawhide-stable LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ./scripts/buildrawhide $(date +\%Y\%m\%d) sudo -u ftpsync /usr/local/bin/update-fullfilelist fedora -- 1.6.3.2.349.g338ec3 ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
koji database wrong?
Hi list, I don't know if this belongs to here, redirect me, if I'm wrong... After running 'yum info cmake', the result is: Name : cmake Architektur : x86_64 Version: 2.6.4 Ausgabe: 1.fc10 Grösse : 6.4 M Repo : updates Trying to install failed, because the 1.fc10. With 1.fc11 it should work. Is this issue maybe coming from the previously mentioned pg_restore command or more a yum or whatever issue? Thomas ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: koji database wrong?
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Thomas Spura wrote: Hi list, I don't know if this belongs to here, redirect me, if I'm wrong... After running 'yum info cmake', the result is: Name : cmake Architektur : x86_64 Version: 2.6.4 Ausgabe: 1.fc10 Grösse : 6.4 M Repo : updates Trying to install failed, because the 1.fc10. With 1.fc11 it should work. Is this issue maybe coming from the previously mentioned pg_restore command or more a yum or whatever issue? Try a yum clean metadata and try again. This sounds like stale yum cache. Should be unrelated to koji. -Mike___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: koji database wrong?
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Thomas Spura wrote: Hi list, I don't know if this belongs to here, redirect me, if I'm wrong... After running 'yum info cmake', the result is: Name : cmake Architektur : x86_64 Version: 2.6.4 Ausgabe: 1.fc10 Grösse : 6.4 M Repo : updates Trying to install failed, because the 1.fc10. With 1.fc11 it should work. Is this issue maybe coming from the previously mentioned pg_restore command or more a yum or whatever issue? Try a yum clean metadata and try again. This sounds like stale yum cache. Should be unrelated to koji. or yum clean expire-cache -sv ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: koji database wrong?
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 17:45 +0200 schrieb Seth Vidal: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Thomas Spura wrote: Hi list, I don't know if this belongs to here, redirect me, if I'm wrong... After running 'yum info cmake', the result is: Name : cmake Architektur : x86_64 Version: 2.6.4 Ausgabe: 1.fc10 Grösse : 6.4 M Repo : updates Trying to install failed, because the 1.fc10. With 1.fc11 it should work. Is this issue maybe coming from the previously mentioned pg_restore command or more a yum or whatever issue? Try a yum clean metadata and try again. This sounds like stale yum cache. Should be unrelated to koji. or yum clean expire-cache -sv Thanks a lot, yum clean metadata worked. Thomas ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
2 MM metalink fixes pushed
I just pushed a couple fixes for MM live. The metalinks for F11 ISOs were failing to get created, because the code had a hard-coded length check when parsing the CHECKSUM file, based on the md5 and sha1 lengths; obviously SHA256 checksums are longer. Whoops. Fixed on bapp1, so in a couple hours, it should be visible on mirrors.fp.o/metalink?path=pub/... Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Attendees needed for Fedora 11 Retrospective on Tuesday June 16, 2009 @ 14:00 UTC
Hi Infrastructure Team, At your earliest convenience please fill the name of the additional person from your team that would like to attend the Fedora 11 Retrospective. This meeting will be a conference call to talk about the good and not so good of the Fedora 11 release cycle in with the hope that we can make Fedora 12 even better! If the team lead is not able to attend please substitute another person on the sign-up page below so that there are two people from each team. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Retrospective Thanks, John ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Attendees needed for Fedora 11 Retrospective on Tuesday June 16, 2009 @ 14:00 UTC
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, John Poelstra wrote: Hi Infrastructure Team, At your earliest convenience please fill the name of the additional person from your team that would like to attend the Fedora 11 Retrospective. This meeting will be a conference call to talk about the good and not so good of the Fedora 11 release cycle in with the hope that we can make Fedora 12 even better! If the team lead is not able to attend please substitute another person on the sign-up page below so that there are two people from each team. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Retrospective I'll be there. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [Ambassadors] Attendees needed for Fedora 11 Retrospective on Tuesday June 16, 2009 @ 14:00 UTC
Mike - The whole thing here is that you need to have an *additional* person there. So we need another infrastructure person to volunteer to attend. On 6/11/09, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, John Poelstra wrote: Hi Infrastructure Team, At your earliest convenience please fill the name of the additional person from your team that would like to attend the Fedora 11 Retrospective. This meeting will be a conference call to talk about the good and not so good of the Fedora 11 release cycle in with the hope that we can make Fedora 12 even better! If the team lead is not able to attend please substitute another person on the sign-up page below so that there are two people from each team. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Retrospective I'll be there. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: This ought to have worked
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/11/2009 09:50 AM, Robert Wuest wrote: I just installed F11 on my laptop and fired up firefox, and for grins went to the Red Hat magazine link, clicked on a video on the right side there and it said I needed a plugin. So I clicked get the plugin and it came back with no plugin found. I didn't look into it any further and I don't really need/or want help on this - I'll figure it out sometime when I care/have time, but this really should have just worked ( a new install, not an upgrade of Fedora desktop/development install watching a Red Hat video). A new/inexperienced user is gonna have an unpleasant HUH? experience with it. Click on the Ogg Video link and Firefox in Fedora 11 can play it out of the box directly. For Flash, refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash Rahul That worked. And it really demonstrated to me that I need more bandwidth :) Robert -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advanced Installer
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:13:00 +, davide lists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: so do you mean I should format my disk, prepare the two layer configuration (lvm and dmcrypt) as I prefer and then simply install over it, after mounting the prepared disk (probably I should choose: substitute the actual linux installation -coculd be different, I used the localized version-)? Ok, should be aesily feasable. Yes. It's a pain but this should work. Remember /boot can't be lvm nor encrypted, nor for the time being ext4. When you do the actual install You can ask for a customized layout. That will show your existing block devices and file systems. You get asked to provide a key for existing encrypted block devices and you should be able to install to them. (If this doesn't work it's a bug.) ok, actualy I would prefer a minimal installation set and then add what I want with yum and his friends, I noticed a netinstall disk or similar, I'll give a look. You can use that or any of the install images to do a network install. (If you already have an install image, there isn't a need to download another 180 MB image.) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Wireless networking - should I install Ralink driver? Solved
Frank Millman wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Frank Millman wrote: My next step was going to be to install the Ralink driver downloaded from their site, but I thought I would check here first to see if there are any other suggestions. The driver from the Ralink site is legacy, I'm not even sure they still update it at all, given that the rewritten driver from the rt2x00 project (which is what you're getting by default) is now in the kernel itself. Thanks for the info, Kevin. I am glad I checked here first. Does anyone have any other suggestions? To recap, here is the problem again. On startup, the card does not always initialise first time. It appears to bring up wlan0 successfully, and it appears to start wpa_supplicant successfully. However, the next step is to mount an NFS share. Sometimes it works first time, but usually it sits there for a while and then fails. If I then check iwconfig, it shows no Access Points, and 0 for Link Quality. I then run 'service network restart' and 'service wpa_supplicant restart' a couple of times, and it usually comes up on the second or third attempt. I read a message from Markus Kesaromous, on a related topic, that happened to have the following line - I set scan_ssid=1 [in wpa_supplicant.conf] because my router does not broadcast the ssid. I have the same situation, so I have added that line to my .conf file, and it seems to have solved the problem. Thanks, Markus ;-) Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP?
In attempting to install Fedora 11, I ran into an issue with an IDE ZIP drive. When it got to the section on disk partition, it would crash with an error about the Zip disk. I had to physically disconnect the Zip to get it to work? My lab has Zips in each computer as hdb, but we seldom use them. I am hoping they can be reconnected after the install process. Anyone else seen this? +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) bo...@home CREDITS SETI 7,960,139.5190 | EINSTEIN 2,602,020.7809 | ROSETTA 964,520.3532 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing boot.iso file?
On 10 Jun 2009 at 22:06, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Date sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:06:03 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to To: Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net Copies to: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject:Re: Missing boot.iso file? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:17:23 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net wrote: In the past, I have extracted the DVD iso file to an FTP server, and then burn the boot.iso from the images directory to a CD. But the images directory of Fedora11 doesn't have a boot.iso, but the README file mentions it. There are a number of .img files, but those are not iso images? Is the file missing, or is there a method to convert the img files to iso file? It's only in the Fedora directory, not the Everything directory. (It used to be in Everything and I'm not sure why this changed.) And it's called Fedora-11-i386-netinst.iso. boot.iso is used for rawhide. Thanks for the info. I am currently doing an install with the netinst.iso cd. I used the method=ftp://202.128.73.28/pub/Fedora11 as I had used with version 10 before, and it seems to be working. Not sure it it would have prompted or not. The Fedora10 required it. +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) bo...@home CREDITS SETI 7,960,139.5190 | EINSTEIN 2,602,020.7809 | ROSETTA 964,520.3532 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: UPS monitor application
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 23:07:17 Phil Meyer wrote: Jim wrote: F10 What is the name of the UPS Linux application that you can monitor APC Battery Backup ? There are also the nut packages. Its more general and handles a variety of UPS. Good Luck! http://www.networkupstools.org/ Having moved from an apc ups to a different brand, I installed nut. I found it much more user-friendly than apcupsd, so I too recommend it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advanced Installer
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 01:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Remember /boot can't be lvm nor encrypted, nor for the time being ext4. Is there any point it being anything more than ext2? It's hardly used, only during bootup and when installing a new kernel. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 dvd media errors
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 11:59 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: If I might make a stupid suggestion...go get one of those CD drive cleaning disks and try it. It may be that the lens on the drive is just dusty. That can lead to all kinds of silly weirdness. If you can avoid it, like cleaning it some other way, don't use one of those cleaning discs. Having a brush whack into a very delicate lens mechanism, over and over, is not a good thing. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SMART - Please shut up!!
On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:17:41 Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:41:25 -0400, David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote: I thought that the OP was using real diagnostics. The BIOS or the testing software from the HD manufacturer. Not some cute little utility from 'some one out there' in Cyber-Space. SMART is a real standard and the smartmontools application has been written to take advantage of the standard. And in most situations is more useful than the manufacturer provided tools. There are some cases where you need the device specific tools, but those cases should be rare. I used the output from smartmontools in my dealings with Acer, when I sent my laptop for a drive replacement. They accepted that as a reason to give me a return code.. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP?
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 16:48 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: In attempting to install Fedora 11, I ran into an issue with an IDE ZIP drive. When it got to the section on disk partition, it would crash with an error about the Zip disk. I had to physically disconnect the Zip to get it to work? My lab has Zips in each computer as hdb, but we seldom use them. I am hoping they can be reconnected after the install process. Anyone else seen this? I encountered that when installing Fedora Core 4, and earlier, on one PC. In my case it seemed to be a BIOS issue, and the Zip drive being an ATAPI device that confused the machine as to which was the drive it should boot from to install the OS. So I disconnected for the install, reconnected afterwards, and things worked fine. Test on one of your machines, to see what happens for you. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: This ought to have worked
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Robert Wuestrwues...@wuest.org wrote: A new/inexperienced user is gonna have an unpleasant HUH? experience with it. If you're watching non-free codecs, you have to install the non-free repositories first. Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: can't record from line input
2009/6/10 James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk: F11 seems only to have microphone input. I could record from line input in F10, using audacity. (Gnome sound recorder always gave problems.) F11 has simplified the audio controls to the point that it seems impossible to activate the line input. What to do? No point in suggesting remove PulseAudio, since that won't bring the ALSA controls back! Investigate the Advanced Volume Control in the Preferences menu. I believe it's invoked from the command line as gst-mixer. This is what the F11 Release Notes have to say on your subject: --- Volume Control An updated volume control manager application provides you with more control over your audio preferences. Better integrated with PulseAudio, you can now control individual application inputs and outputs along with the sources and destinations for the audio. Using the new PulseAudio-based volume applet, there is no way to adjust ALSA sound levels. If they are set too low, raising the PulseAudio sound levels may not work acceptably. For this contingency, the old gstreamer-based volume application is also available by default. It is available under the name Advanced Volume Control, in the SystemPreferences menu section. You will also need to use this application if you need to select an input channel for recording (for instance, line-in or mic-in). --- -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 and Virtual Machine Manager
On 06/10/2009 09:44 PM, Gerry Maddock wrote: Hello all, I have been using qemu-kvm via the virtual machine manger on Fedora 10 and have had no problems (works great love it!). I just downloaded and installed Fedora 11 64 bit on a new server and logged in as a normal user and started the virtual machine manager. I'm able to connect to the virtual machine manager, but cant setup any new VM's as I'm connected as Read-Only (This must be a new feature). How should I go about connecting to VMM READ-WRITE? Do I need to sudo VMM? Any help would be appreciated! You should be able to run polkit-gnome-authorization from the PolicyKit-gnome and set up that users logged in can manage local virtualized systems. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: m...@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP?
On 11 Jun 2009 at 16:36, Tim wrote: From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Organization: I'm Spartacus! Date sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:36:11 +0930 Subject:Re: Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP? Send reply to: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list.redhat.com mailto:fedora-list- requ...@redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe mailto:fedora-list- requ...@redhat.com?subject=subscribe On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 16:48 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: In attempting to install Fedora 11, I ran into an issue with an IDE ZIP drive. When it got to the section on disk partition, it would crash with an error about the Zip disk. I had to physically disconnect the Zip to get it to work? My lab has Zips in each computer as hdb, but we seldom use them. I am hoping they can be reconnected after the install process. Anyone else seen this? I encountered that when installing Fedora Core 4, and earlier, on one PC. In my case it seemed to be a BIOS issue, and the Zip drive being an ATAPI device that confused the machine as to which was the drive it should boot from to install the OS. So I disconnected for the install, reconnected afterwards, and things worked fine. Thanks for the reply. I've installed Redhat 9 thru Fedora 10 on this machines with no issues with the ZIP disk. The Zip is set to not installed in the BIOS, but the 98, XP, and Fedora had no problem seeing it after boot. Not sure why it is even looking at the disk. I choose to install using the exist linux partitions, so why the partition section was looking at the zip at all, and why it would result in a fatal error. Test on one of your machines, to see what happens for you. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) bo...@home CREDITS SETI 7,960,139.5190 | EINSTEIN 2,602,020.7809 | ROSETTA 964,520.3532 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
I just did this and it worked for me. ssh a...@p.q.r.s p.q.r.s is the ip address of the remote pc. Both pc have openssh-server,openssh-client installed. --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Rick Sewill rsew...@cableone.net wrote: From: Rick Sewill rsew...@cableone.net Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 5:53 AM On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 13:24 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 23:39 -0700, gmspro wrote: Would anyone tell how to use ssh command in brief? Cris gave a great explanation. and looking at the man page is also a must. In practical terms ssh replaces telnet so that your computer to computer connections can be accomplished with encrypted tcp/ip packets. You can establish computer to computer connections with telnet, but it does not customarily encrypt which means the content of your connection can be sniffed and understood by someone monitoring your network. ssh prevents the sniffer from understanding what is being sent from computer to computer. Because ssh is so much better than telnet, telnet servers are usually turned off and not used. Greg Chris' explanation is good. May I suggest the original questioner needs to find the information needed to connect to that particular ssh server. The original questioner may need to talk with the person (ssh server administrator) who is running the ssh server. The ssh server administrator should have a cookbook telling how to connect to his server. I am assume the original questioner is not the ssh server administrator. The ssh server administrator can configure which ssh protocol version(s) of ssh will work, what types of authentication will work, whether X11 will will be forwarded, and many other options. The ssh server administrator can even force a particular user to execute a specific program when the user tries to connect. The ssh server administrator will need to create an account and make configuration changes to allow people to connect to that account. Sometimes, a ssh server administrator might create an anonymous account that runs a particular program, such as cvs to allow people to anonymously retrieve source code. In every case that I can think of, the original questioner will need to find documentation on how to connect or will need to talk with the ssh server administrator. I would also suggest, using the -v option on the ssh command. I believe one can type ssh -v -v -v u...@host From man ssh, -v Verbose mode. Causes ssh to print debugging messages about its progress. This is helpful in debugging connection, authentica- tion, and configuration problems. Multiple -v options increase the verbosity. The maximum is 3. The output from the -v -v -v options may help the ssh server administrator help the original questioner find out what is wrong when the original questioner tries to connect. -Inline Attachment Follows- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: can't record from line input
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:10 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/10 James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk: F11 seems only to have microphone input. I could record from line input in F10, using audacity. (Gnome sound recorder always gave problems.) F11 has simplified the audio controls to the point that it seems impossible to activate the line input. What to do? No point in suggesting remove PulseAudio, since that won't bring the ALSA controls back! Investigate the Advanced Volume Control in the Preferences menu. I believe it's invoked from the command line as gst-mixer. This is what the F11 Release Notes have to say on your subject: --- Volume Control An updated volume control manager application provides you with more control over your audio preferences. Better integrated with PulseAudio, you can now control individual application inputs and outputs along with the sources and destinations for the audio. Using the new PulseAudio-based volume applet, there is no way to adjust ALSA sound levels. If they are set too low, raising the PulseAudio sound levels may not work acceptably. For this contingency, the old gstreamer-based volume application is also available by default. It is available under the name Advanced Volume Control, in the SystemPreferences menu section. You will also need to use this application if you need to select an input channel for recording (for instance, line-in or mic-in). --- -- Sam Thanks for this. I had installed F11 from the live CD and that doesn't install the advanced volume control. I hadn't got around to looking at the installation notes - that's what comes of expecting things to just work! -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
Thanks.
I did this and it works for me.
ssh a...@ipaddress
But if I do
ssh ipaddress
ssh: connect to host ipaddress port 22: No route to host
--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote:
From: Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info
Subject: Re: ssh tutorial
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:04 AM
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 23:39 -0700,
gmspro wrote:
Would anyone tell how to use ssh command in brief?
Let me try my hand at a basic primer...
(1) SSH is used to login to a remote computer:
ssh u...@computer
Or:
ssh -l user computer
Where:
'user' is your username on the remote computer.
'computer' is the hostname of the remote computer, if it
has a DNS A
record or an entry in /etc/hosts, or the IP address.
Examples:
ssh ja...@argonaut
Logs in as 'jason' on the computer 'argonaut', assuming
that the IP
address for 'argonaut' is listed in the /etc/hosts file.
This approach
might be used on a small home network.
ssh ch...@global.proximity.on.ca
Logs in as 'chris' on the computer
'global.proximity.on.ca', where
'global.proximity.on.ca' has a correctly-configured DNS
entry so it can
be resolved into an IP address. This approach is used for
almost all
publicly-accessible machines.
ssh j...@172.16.16.1
Logs in as 'jane' on the computer with the IP address
172.16.97.1. With
this approach you need to know the IP address but don't
require an entry
in /etc/hosts or a DNS A record. This approach might be
used when
initially setting up some machines on a network.
These commands will give you shell access on the remote
machine, after
you have provided your password.
Additional information:
- You can leave the username out if it's exactly the same
as the
username under which you logged in to the local machine:
ssh global.proximity.on.ca
- You can add a command name if you want to run just one
command instead
of accessing a shell. For example, to run 'who' on
zenit.senecac.on.ca I
could use:
ssh ch...@zenit.senecac.on.ca
who
- Adding the '-C' option (note the capital letter) turns on
compression.
If you're going through a slow connection, this can improve
performance.
If you're on a local connection (LAN), don't bother.
- Adding the '-X' option (again, a capital letter) turns on
X11
forwarding. This lets you run a graphical command remotely
and have it
display locally, assuming that the local system has an X
server (e.g.,
the local computer is running Linux/BSD/Solaris/AIX/...
with a GUI, or
it's running OSX or Windows and an X server has been
started). For
example:
ssh -XC ch...@concord3 virt-manager
...will run the virt-manager application on concord3 and
display the
virt-manager graphical window on the local display. Note:
in some
situations, depending on the ssh server configuration, you
may need to
use '-Y' instead of '-X'. (Note that the -C option is also
being used
here; its use with -X is strongly recommended).
(2) You can use the related 'scp' secure copy utility (or,
alternately,
sftp) to transfer files to and from a remote system using
ssh:
scp u...@computer:/path/to/file name
This transfers /path/to/file from the account 'user' on the
remote
system 'computer' to 'name' on the local system. Note that
this is the
same syntax as the 'cp' (copy) command, except that
'u...@computer' is
placed in front of the source filename.
Examples:
scp ch...@concord3:/etc/services c3s
The file /etc/services on concord3 (using account name
'chris') is
transferred to the file 'c3s' in the local current
directory.
scp ch...@concord3:~/todo.txt .
The file 'todo.txt' in the home directory of user 'chris'
on 'concord3'
is transferred to the current directory ('.').
You can also transfer *to* a remote system, by putting the
u...@computer
part in front of the destination file:
scp todo.txt ja...@host3.example.com:/tmp/
The file 'todo.txt' on the local system (current directory)
is
transferred to the /tmp directory on the system
'host3.example.com'
using the account 'jason'.
(3) See the ssh documentation for information on how to use
ssh with
public/private keys, eliminating the need to constantly
retype the
password.
Hope this is useful--
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Re: ssh tutorial
gmspro wrote: I did this and it works for me. ssh a...@ipaddress But if I do ssh ipaddress ssh: connect to host ipaddress port 22: No route to host I would try ssh -v ipaddress and ssh -l abc ipaddress -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: From: Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:49 PM Uwe Kiewel wrote: yourname=linux user account // Am i correct? yourserver=?? No. ssh -l yourusername yourserver I also think,it is a wrong format. Correct format is : ssh yourn...@yourserver ssh username_at_remote_ser...@remote_server is also possible Apologies. I thought I had tried that in the past, and it did not work. But it seems fine now. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: language input
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 12:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Wellwhen I login from the console everything needed to use the input methods is already started. No need to manually start anything... [egres...@f10 packages]$ ps -eaf | grep scim egreshko 9260 1 0 09:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/scim egreshko 9326 1 0 09:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher-d -c simple -e all -f socket --no-stay egreshko 9328 9260 0 09:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher-c socket -e socket -f x11 egreshko 9355 1 0 09:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-helper-manager egreshko 9356 1 0 09:32 ?00:00:14 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk --display :0.0 -c socket -d --no-stay egreshko 9452 1 0 09:32 ?00:00:02 scim-bridge I've always installed my system with multi-language support from the start. So, I've not looked into how all these do get started. I would make sure these are already started when you first login before assuming you need to launch manually. Yes, it sounds like your issue is actually with scim. I would also make sure you have a symbolic link in your home directory .xinputrc - /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim.conf that was big...I think that was what I needed (the .xinputrc symbolic link in my $HOME) because once I created that and logged out and logged back in, I was able to type Chinese and I got rid of the KDE keyboard switcher thinking it blocked some things like the up/down arrows and delete keys but maybe it is scim doing that. The only thing I haven't been able to figure out is how to 'page' through the various word choices from scim/pinyin from the keyboard so I don't have to grab the mouse with each word I enter if the word I want happens not to be on the first 'page' of choices. As for multi-language support at installation time...it never occurred to me that I would be interested in multi-language setup...I am an American ;-) This is a new thing for me and while I don't need to learn Chinese, it intrigues me (unless Red Hat would want to offer me a job in Beijing ;-). Copy/paste can only get me so far. Thanks Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
I would try ssh -v ipaddress This does not work. It says permission denied after giving the password three times. and ssh -l abc ipaddress Giving the same password this works. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: From: Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:49 PM Uwe Kiewel wrote: yourname=linux user account // Am i correct? yourserver=?? No. ssh -l yourusername yourserver I also think,it is a wrong format. Correct format is : ssh yourn...@yourserver Both a correct formats. ssh -l sam machine.mydomain.com == ssh s...@machine.mydomain.com -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
ssh -l yourusername yourserver Sorry,It is also correct. I also think,it is a wrong format. Correct format is : ssh yourn...@yourserver -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 4:18 PM 2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: From: Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:49 PM Uwe Kiewel wrote: yourname=linux user account // Am i correct? yourserver=?? No. ssh -l yourusername yourserver I also think,it is a wrong format. Correct format is : ssh yourn...@yourserver Both a correct formats. ssh -l sam machine.mydomain.com == ssh s...@machine.mydomain.com -- Sam Yes ,both are correct.Sorry for previous post. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: I would try ssh -v ipaddress This does not work. It says permission denied after giving the password three times. and ssh -l abc ipaddress Giving the same password this works. Is your username on the machine you are ssh'ing from the same as your username on the machine you are ssh'ing to? If your username locally is USERLOCAL, then ssh -v ipaddress is equivalent to ssh -v userlo...@ipaddress or ssh -v -l USERLOCAL ipaddress If your usernames are the same, then the only way I can see ssh ipaddress failing while ssh -l username ipaddress succeeds is if your .ssh/config file has a specific username for that machine set - something like this: # cat .ssh/config Host1.2.3.4 Userremoteuser The -l argument to ssh would override that, but without the -l you would be trying to ssh -l remoteuser 1.2.3.4 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 - 11 Update Problem
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:19:27 -0400, Matthew wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 08:17 +0200, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: Hello, I'm having some update problems: rpm -Uhv http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm yum upgrade -- Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed) glibc-2.9-3.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9-3 is needed by package glibc-2.9-3.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9-3 is needed by package glibc-2.9-3.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed) Tried already without success: yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing I found several messages with the same problems from prereleases: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2009-05/msg01968.html http://www.nabble.com/update-to-F11-with-yum-td23807463.html http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg117103.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720 Any ideas to solve upgrade? Yep. It's trying to get old dependencies, not new ones. Yum cache files from F10 are left over after preupgrade. yum clean all, then try again. No, the ntp in F10 (updates) is newer than the one in F11. One needs F11 updates-testing to add the missing ntp update for F11. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
proper way to configure a samsung scx-4826fn printer under f11?
under my fresh f11 install, my multifunction samsung scx-4826fn printer just magically showed up under System - Admin - Printing, but it's definitely not printing properly (among other things, double-sided isn't working). under f10 (if memory serves), i needed to manually install the proper drivers, so i'm a bit confused about the proper way to do it now. obviously, the fact that it appeared to be automatically configured isn't everything, and i've already downloaded the relevant tarballs from here: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/support.do?group=printersmultifunctiontype=printersmultifunctionsubtype=monochromelasermultifunctionprintersfaxesmodel_nm=SCX-4826FNlanguage=cate_type=alldType=DmType=DRvType=prd_ia_cd=06010300disp_nm=SCX-4826FNmodel_cd=SCX-4826FN/XAAmenu=download so can someone clarify the *proper* recipe for this (which might also apply to other printing devices)? i'd rather not forge ahead blindly and pooch the setup. thanks. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 NFS4 idmapd Problem
Hi Has anyone had a problem with F11 x86_64 and nfs4 mounts? I run a Centos 5.3 nfs server which is working fine using nfs4 with a fully updated F10 machine I installed F11 yesterday on a second machine with full updates On the F11 machine when I mount, either by hand, or autofs/NIS the names/UIDs Groups/GID are not mapped I cannot see any obvious differences between the two machines (F10/F11) mount -t nfs4 148.197.29.5:/global /mnt/zip ls -l /mnt/zip total 19787316 drwxr-xr-x 10 nobody nobody4096 2009-06-10 09:42 cdrw drwxrwxrwx 12 nobody nobody4096 2009-03-13 09:38 db drwxr-xr-x 4 nobody nobody4096 2008-12-09 18:13 from_maui_april_2006 drwxr-xr-x 3 nobody nobody4096 2008-12-09 18:24 local_maui drwx-- 2 nobody nobody4096 2008-12-09 18:24 lost+found cat /var/log/messages shows Jun 11 12:13:32 monk rpc.idmapd[5938]: nss_getpwnam: name 'r...@localdomain' does not map into domain 'jaa.org.uk' Jun 11 12:13:51 monk rpc.idmapd[5938]: nss_getpwnam: name 'j...@localdomain' does not map into domain 'jaa.org.uk' The right things seem to be running on both machines F11 [r...@monk ~]# ps -ef|grep -i rpc rpc 1390 1 0 10:48 ?00:00:00 rpcbind rpcuser 1403 1 0 10:48 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd root 1434 2 0 10:48 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/0] root 1435 2 0 10:48 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/1] root 5938 1 0 11:34 ?00:00:00 rpc.idmapd F10 pagham ~ 13# ps -ef|grep -i rpc rpc 2187 1 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 rpcbind rpcuser 2200 1 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd root 2232 2 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/0] root 2233 2 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/1] root 2234 2 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/2] root 2235 2 0 Jun08 ?00:00:45 [rpciod/3] root 2242 1 0 Jun08 ?00:00:00 rpc.idmapd -- A normal nfs mount works fine mount 148.197.29.5:/exports/global /mnt/zip ls -l /mnt/zip total 19787316 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root4096 2009-06-10 09:42 cdrw drwxrwxrwx 12 ja sysadmin4096 2009-03-13 09:38 db drwxr-xr-x 4 root root4096 2008-12-09 18:13 from_maui_april_2006 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root4096 2008-12-09 18:24 local_maui drwx-- 2 root root4096 2008-12-09 18:24 lost+found Hopefully I am missing something obvious John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
Is your username on the machine you are ssh'ing from the same as your username on the machine you are ssh'ing to? Never, usernames are different. If your username locally is USERLOCAL, then ssh -v ipaddress is equivalent to ssh -v userlo...@ipaddress or ssh -v -l USERLOCAL ipaddress Username is not USERLOCAL If your usernames are the same, then the only way I can see ssh ipaddress failing while ssh -l username ipaddress succeeds is if your .ssh/config file has a specific username for that machine set - something like this: # cat .ssh/config There is no file like config in .ssh directory. There is only one file here: known_hosts Host 1.2.3.4 User remoteuser The -l argument to ssh would override that, but without the -l you would be trying to ssh -l remoteuser 1.2.3.4 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Howto yum update F10-F11?
I failed. I installed fedora-release-11-xxx and rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}-
release-11-xx rpms. This completely broke yum, because the format of
fedora.repo is not understood with F10 yum.
Try updating to F11 yum? No good either, needs python-2.6.
So how is it done?
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Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: Is your username on the machine you are ssh'ing from the same as your username on the machine you are ssh'ing to? Never, usernames are different. Well that is why ssh -l abc ipaddress and ssh a...@ipaddress work for you, but ssh ipaddress won't. You are trying to login to your remote machine with the username you use on your local machine! If you want to set it up so that you don't need to type the username, you need to investigate the .ssh/config file (man ssh_config for details) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 - 11 Update Problem
Hello, I am using Fedora 10 now. What's the command to upgrade Fedora 10 to Fedora 11? What are the new features Fedora 11 is giving today? 1.Does Fedora 11 support ext4 filesystem? 2.In Fedora 11 ,is there any way to change gdm theme? 3.Any problem like Could not detect stabilization wait for 10 seconds -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
file (man ssh_config for details) That's a long tutorial.I will read this if possible. However thanks for your reply. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
darkice-0.19 for Fedora 11
Hello Fedora-list, darkice-0.19 is in the distribution for Fedora 11 - but it is compiled without lame support - why? Own compilation on Fedora 11 of darkice-0.19 fails - seems a bug in a cpp module. Any help? -- Best regards, Martin mailto:msch...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto yum update F10-F11?
2009/6/11 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
I failed. I installed fedora-release-11-xxx and rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}-
release-11-xx rpms. This completely broke yum, because the format of
fedora.repo is not understood with F10 yum.
Try updating to F11 yum? No good either, needs python-2.6.
So how is it done?
I'd recommend doing it using preupgrade.
Dave...
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