Re: rawhide report: 20090724 changes

2009-07-25 Thread Paul
Hi,

 udev-145-2.fc12
 ---
 * Fri Jul 24 2009 Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com 145-2
 - fix file permissions
 - remove rpath
 - chkconfig --add for udev-post
 - fix summaries
 - add Required-Stop to udev-post

Does this now mean inserting a USB drive into my machine will actually
mount or do I still need to do this as su?

TTFN

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Re: rawhide report: 20090724 changes

2009-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Here anything that initialises GConfd causes every single GNOME app to
start eating all the CPU it can while becoming unresponsive

So rawhide is dead again. Can we switch to Fedora 13 at once? Fedora 12
cycle has not been lucky

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Re: Firewall rules using SELinux context (Was Re: RFE: FireKit)

2009-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 24 juillet 2009 à 19:22 -0400, Gregory Maxwell a écrit :

 Not just port numbers.

Well iptables already allows stuff like

-A OUTPUT -m owner ! --gid-owner apache -p tcp --dport http -j REDIRECT
--to-port tproxy

so you don't have to open ports for every process


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Re: Firewall rules using SELinux context (Was Re: RFE: FireKit)

2009-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 14:49:08 -0700,
  Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com wrote:
 SECMARK.  I sure didn't.  I think I might now, sort of.  The SELinux policy
 just says contexts, and it doesn't say anything about the port numbers.

If you really just want to use local ports, that is available in selinux
policy. I don't know if it only applies to listen, but there are port
restrictions for some apps. The SEMARK stuff is supposed to allow
you to have more complicated (maybe stateful) rules for labelling packets.
Besides that there is also a way to have labels in the packets themselves
so that you can use labelling accross a network. I don't know if Fedora
supports any of that, but at least some of the needed infrastructure
is already in the upstream kernel.

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Re: rawhide report: 20090724 changes

2009-07-25 Thread darrell pfeifer
2009/7/25 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net:
 Here anything that initialises GConfd causes every single GNOME app to
 start eating all the CPU it can while becoming unresponsive

 So rawhide is dead again. Can we switch to Fedora 13 at once? Fedora 12
 cycle has not been lucky


Yes, it is particularly bad at the moment.

I backed out pretty much all of the changes for the day and it still
remains broken. xsession-errors shows gnome-settings-manager failing
to start but that's about it.

Usually I will wander over to kde as a backup, but it is also failing to start.

The workaround for me is:

It is easier to use runlevel 3 and startx, because when it dies it is
much easier to restart.

Much of the looping seems to be canberra. You can kill it.

Use compiz since it allows the lower ribbon bar to work.

Don't touch anything that changes settings (so can't use volume control, etc)
-

GConf changed a day or so ealier so I haven't backed it out. Maybe  it
is an actual setting that changed, which would explain why backing
things out didn't help me.

darrell

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Re: rawhide report: 20090724 changes

2009-07-25 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:42:58 -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote

 Yes, it is particularly bad at the moment.

For these cases (I have updated to current rawhide, but not restarted
yet, and so far everithing still works) I have resorted to keeping
a root fs with the last stable release (F11 in this case) around.

Of course, /home is a separate partition here, so I can share it
bewteen the systems, which all in all works quite well so far.

/boot is shared, too.

I can even update the rawhide system from F11 using chroot to make
it usable again.

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Release Notes for Fedora 12

2009-07-25 Thread John J. McDonough

The Release Notes Beat page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats
has been updated to reflect Fedora 12.

IF YOU WERE A FEDORA 11 BEAT WRITER

Review the page, if you intend to write the same beat for Fedora 12 that you 
wrote for Fedora 11, remove the asterisk from your name.  If you would like 
to contribute to an additional beat, add your name to that beat.


IF YOU ARE A DEVELOPER

Check the Developer PoC column for your name.  If you are on the list, and 
will still be the point of contact for Fedora 12, remove the asterisk from 
your name.  If you are not on the list, and would like to ensure that the 
area you are working in gets proper attention in the release notes, add your 
name.  Multiple names are fine.


Perhaps you felt that your particular area didn't get the attention it 
deserved in Fedora 11.  Consider writing the beat yourself.  Add your name 
to the Writer column.


IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RELEASE NOTES

Look through the beats for an area that interests you, and add your name to 
the Writer column.  If there is already someone there, that is fine. Two (or 
more) heads are better than one.


IF YOU ARE UNCERTAIN

Feel free to contact me by email, via the fedora-docs-list, or on the 
#Fedora-Docs IRC channel.  You don't need to be some sort of expert to 
contribute to the release notes.  All it takes is an interest, and the 
ability to string a few words together into a coherent sentence.  Even if 
you don't feel like you are a writer, that is fine; there will be plenty of 
editing and review opportunities.  What we really need is for folks to 
capture the changes.


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Re: Purging the F12 orphans

2009-07-25 Thread Mat Booth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 List of deps left behind by orphan removal:

 Orphan: xml-commons-apis12
    dom4j requires jaxp = 1.2


Does dom4j really require jaxp 1.2? Is it possible to make it work
with the version in xml-commons-apis (version 1.3 I think)?


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fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
hi,
first of all i use linux since '94 so i've seen a few releases. and learned
to wait a few weeks before upgrade. now i try to upgrade from a few fully
update f10 to f11.
it's a nightmare!
on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition anaconda
crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just mdraid:-( and since
preupgrade also crash with the same error there is no way to properly
upgrade from the latest release to the next release! not even with nodmraid
kernel option.
on system where anaconda do not crash f10 update's yum newer then on f11
iso's so the installer do not upgrade yum! so after the upgrade yum no
longer works. as the installer do not upgrade kernel-devel akmods not able
to rebuild kernel module for nvidia and ati so X not able to start. in order
to be able to get the latest kernel-devel and akmods packages i need
network. but as i don't have X i can't use these fantastic networkmanager
tool and the old ifup wlan0 no longer works. but without networkmanager wifi
is not working so my laptop is no longer usable! no X ati do not working, no
wireless.
all of my system has a wrong openssl version so eg ntp never start.
after i manually get (with a pendrive) yum packages yum able to work but
crash and ask me to send this bug to the developer (but still without
network). there was some python 2.5 abi problem. how can a system critical
tool like yum depend on such a broken thing like python? currently there is
no way in installer to use rpm it use yum:-(
after i update by hand a few dozen of packages with rpm yum start to work.
now the worst part after i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to
update!!! just one month after the release! my system consist of 2059
packages at the same time yum download 2069 packages to update! what the
hell i doing??? why do i upgrade the system for a half days if i upgrade all
of my packages. why do i need a dvd iso? this download is more then the
whole iso!
and the real annoying part after i upgrade a few thousands of packages is
the sound no longer works! there is no volume control i can't play even a
wav file with play ...wav. is it so difficult thing? in 2009 it's a big
requirement that an operating system be able to play a wav file? anyway
nothing is working no sound at all skype is no longer works. tv tunner card
no longer works. why anybody try to push this pulse stuff!? it's known to
broken no one like it it's very early in development. after each fedora
release a real big part of the mailing list traffic is about pulseaudio.
let's just exclude it out and try to use it after 2012. are you really wanna
suck so much with it?
and the firefox and thunderbird betas... why? do we really need to be so
cutting edge? they are broken and crash too often:-(
thunderbird has no google calendar provider (while it had in f10) so it's
worse then in f10. there is a testing thunderbird-lightening which has no
corresponding thunderbird release (f11 was released on 9th juli:-)
on a simple on borad intel video card X/gnome crash daily.
and i could be list many other problems. so i really thing that's the worst
then ever release of fedora.
and tend to agree with dag that fedora is not suitable even for the
desktop/workstation world. and i can't say anything those ubuntu users who
said it's working in ububtu:-(
if rhel 6 will be released i'll push a new company policy that no one can
use fedora (it's so much problem for the users and the support that it's not
worth for it) even as a desktop os just centos 6.
a really angry fedora user.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Alan Cox
 on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition anaconda
 crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just mdraid:-( and since
 preupgrade also crash with the same error there is no way to properly
 upgrade from the latest release to the next release! not even with nodmraid
 kernel option.

md /boot is definitely broken, has been for ages and the bugs don't seem
to have been touched. It's also obvious nobody bothered to actually test
that case because the error paths in the install code don't actually
work for that case either !

Fortunately the usual updating fedora-release, yum upgrade approach
worked on my boxes. I'd avoid preupgrade anyway it seems to like breaking
systems and leaving them half upgraded so you have to rescue the mess by
hand.

all of my system has a wrong openssl version

all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.

i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month
after the release! my system consist of 2059

In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just
updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were
basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.



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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:41:53PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
 md /boot is definitely broken, has been for ages and the bugs don't seem
 to have been touched. It's also obvious nobody bothered to actually test
 that case because the error paths in the install code don't actually
 work for that case either !

I always set up my md /boot manually and it works fine after that.

 Fortunately the usual updating fedora-release, yum upgrade approach
 worked on my boxes. I'd avoid preupgrade anyway it seems to like breaking
 systems and leaving them half upgraded so you have to rescue the mess by
 hand.

I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical 
Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.  I always 
do a fresh install, formatting the partition from the older install.  
This has the advantage of providing a backup in case the new Fedora 
doesn't work so well.  Eventually, when updates to the new Fedora fix 
the most annoying bugs, I switch to using it full time.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:

 all of my system has a wrong openssl version

 all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
 preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
 I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.


i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half upgrade then  it's
also the bug of the installer.


 i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month
 after the release! my system consist of 2059

 In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just
 updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were
 basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.


as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a few things then
it's also the bug of the installer.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:

  Fortunately the usual updating fedora-release, yum upgrade approach
  worked on my boxes. I'd avoid preupgrade anyway it seems to like breaking
  systems and leaving them half upgraded so you have to rescue the mess by
  hand.

 I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical
 Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.  I always
 do a fresh install, formatting the partition from the older install.
 This has the advantage of providing a backup in case the new Fedora
 doesn't work so well.  Eventually, when updates to the new Fedora fix
 the most annoying bugs, I switch to using it full time.


and it's a shame! it's not windows when we need to reinstall and reboot with
every install.
or if it's know to be broken then remove the option to upgrade.


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Fedora-wiki is broken since this morninng (~ 06.00 am GMt+00)

2009-07-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All!
I'm always get this message while trying to visit pages since this morning:

=

Utf8Case.ser is missing, please run make in the serialized directory

Backtrace:

#0 /usr/share/mediawiki/languages/Language.php(1429): Language::getCaseMaps()
#1 /usr/share/mediawiki/languages/Language.php(2574): Language-lc('??')
#2 /usr/share/mediawiki/languages/Language.php(2532): Language-fixUpSettings()
#3 /usr/share/mediawiki/languages/Language.php(1334): Language-load()
#4 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/MessageCache.php(539):
Language-getMessage('missing-article')
#5 [internal function]: MessageCache-get('missing-article', true, false)
#6 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/StubObject.php(58):
call_user_func_array(Array, Array)
#7 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/StubObject.php(76):
StubObject-_call('get', Array)
#8 [internal function]: StubObject-__call('get', Array)
#9 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(583):
StubObject-get('missing-article', true, false)
#10 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(548):
wfMsgGetKey('missing-article', true, false, true)
#11 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(454):
wfMsgReal('missing-article', Array, true)
#12 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Article.php(407):
wfMsg('missing-article', 'PeterLemenkov', '')
#13 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Article.php(302): Article-fetchContent(0)
#14 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Article.php(226): Article-loadContent()
#15 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Article.php(128): Article-getContent()
#16 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php(305): Article-followRedirect()
#17 /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php(60):
MediaWiki-initializeArticle(Object(Title), Object(WebRequest))
#18 /usr/share/mediawiki/index.php(114):
MediaWiki-initialize(Object(Title), NULL, Object(OutputPage),
Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
#19 {main}

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Seems that something is broken in the internals of mediawiki.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Ben Boeckel
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Farkas Levente wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox 
a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 
 all of my system has a wrong openssl version

 all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly 
wrong. I've seen
 preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's 
the main reason
 I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.

 
 i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half 
upgrade then  it's
 also the bug of the installer.
 
 
 i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! 
just one month
 after the release! my system consist of 2059

 In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first 
place, it just
 updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to 
do. You were
 basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.
 
 
 as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a 
few things then
 it's also the bug of the installer.

This is a problem with the DVD that is hard to solve. Fully 
updated F10 is newer than F11 was when the DVD was spun 
(especially when the DVD is a month old)...so not everything got 
updated. There was a thread on it earlier on this list. It 
either breaks other things to fix or the DVD is just broken to 
update from after X days of release.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Brad Longo
I wouldn't say Fedora 11 is that bad, but it has certainly has been 
problematic for me as well.  I have to agree with Alan Cox that all of 
your issues were caused by preupgrade. The best thing to do is to create 
a separate partition for your home folder, then replace the operating 
system for new releases, and redirect Fedora to where your home folder 
is in fstab.


However, I unfortunately have to say that since Fedora 9, user 
experience has been decreasing for me.  Installing Fedora was a 
nightmare since trying to do anything other than replace the existing 
Linux Partition caused anaconda to crash, connecting to computers across 
my internal home network is precarious, and multimedia support is the 
worst I've ever seen it.  I'd rather see nothing but a significant 
increase in reliability in F12 than to see any new features at all.




On 07/25/2009 11:30 AM, Farkas Levente wrote:

hi,
first of all i use linux since '94 so i've seen a few releases. and 
learned to wait a few weeks before upgrade. now i try to upgrade from 
a few fully update f10 to f11.

it's a nightmare!
on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition 
anaconda crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just 
mdraid:-( and since preupgrade also crash with the same error there is 
no way to properly upgrade from the latest release to the next 
release! not even with nodmraid kernel option.
on system where anaconda do not crash f10 update's yum newer then on 
f11 iso's so the installer do not upgrade yum! so after the upgrade 
yum no longer works. as the installer do not upgrade kernel-devel 
akmods not able to rebuild kernel module for nvidia and ati so X not 
able to start. in order to be able to get the latest kernel-devel and 
akmods packages i need network. but as i don't have X i can't use 
these fantastic networkmanager tool and the old ifup wlan0 no longer 
works. but without networkmanager wifi is not working so my laptop is 
no longer usable! no X ati do not working, no wireless.

all of my system has a wrong openssl version so eg ntp never start.
after i manually get (with a pendrive) yum packages yum able to work 
but crash and ask me to send this bug to the developer (but still 
without network). there was some python 2.5 abi problem. how can a 
system critical tool like yum depend on such a broken thing like 
python? currently there is no way in installer to use rpm it use yum:-(

after i update by hand a few dozen of packages with rpm yum start to work.
now the worst part after i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages 
to update!!! just one month after the release! my system consist of 
2059 packages at the same time yum download 2069 packages to update! 
what the hell i doing??? why do i upgrade the system for a half days 
if i upgrade all of my packages. why do i need a dvd iso? this 
download is more then the whole iso!
and the real annoying part after i upgrade a few thousands of packages 
is the sound no longer works! there is no volume control i can't play 
even a wav file with play ...wav. is it so difficult thing? in 2009 
it's a big requirement that an operating system be able to play a wav 
file? anyway nothing is working no sound at all skype is no longer 
works. tv tunner card no longer works. why anybody try to push this 
pulse stuff!? it's known to broken no one like it it's very early in 
development. after each fedora release a real big part of the mailing 
list traffic is about pulseaudio. let's just exclude it out and try to 
use it after 2012. are you really wanna suck so much with it?
and the firefox and thunderbird betas... why? do we really need to be 
so cutting edge? they are broken and crash too often:-(
thunderbird has no google calendar provider (while it had in f10) so 
it's worse then in f10. there is a testing thunderbird-lightening 
which has no corresponding thunderbird release (f11 was released on 
9th juli:-)

on a simple on borad intel video card X/gnome crash daily.
and i could be list many other problems. so i really thing that's the 
worst then ever release of fedora.
and tend to agree with dag that fedora is not suitable even for the 
desktop/workstation world. and i can't say anything those ubuntu users 
who said it's working in ububtu:-(
if rhel 6 will be released i'll push a new company policy that no one 
can use fedora (it's so much problem for the users and the support 
that it's not worth for it) even as a desktop os just centos 6.

a really angry fedora user.

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Re: Fedora-wiki is broken since this morninng (~ 06.00 am GMt+00)

2009-07-25 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-07-25 08:05:53 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 Hello All!
 I'm always get this message while trying to visit pages since this morning:
Hi, this was due to a configuration error I made yesterday, can you
check and see if it's fixed now?

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Fedora-wiki is broken since this morninng (~ 06.00 am GMt+00)

2009-07-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All!

2009/7/25 Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org:
 On 2009-07-25 08:05:53 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 Hello All!
 I'm always get this message while trying to visit pages since this morning:

 Hi, this was due to a configuration error I made yesterday, can you
 check and see if it's fixed now?

Seems working now. Thanks.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Fortunately I had read in this list that upgrading breaks Yum so I did a fresh 
install instead, and only had to spend a few days getting all the configuration 
back into shape. Sound started working after I deleted ~/.pulse.

The primary reason why Fedora 11 is the worst ever for me is a badly broken 
compiler. (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507247) Luckily I've 
finally found the error, so I can at least build fixed compiler packages for 
myself until Fedora 12 is released with GCC 4.4.1 where the bug is fixed. Or 
maybe some GCC maintainer will even find it worth their time to apply my patch.

Björn Persson



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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Alan Coxa...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
 preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
 I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.

My first thought is...who in the community is standing up and taking
the responsibility as the front line testers of preupgrade during the
pre-release process?  I admit I don't test or make us of it (and thus
I don't feel I'm qualified to comment on how well it functions nor do
I tell people to use it because I do not use it myself)...as I prefer
fresh installs so that I can experience the default configuration
which can change significantly from release to release.  Do we need
some affirmative me-too tabulation on the install scenarios to get an
idea of how much testing each method is getting? If preupgrade is
seeing only 1% of the DVD installer testing would it help to publicly
expose that as encouragement for more people to test preupgrade?

-jef

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/26/2009 12:41 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Alan Coxa...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
 preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
 I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.
 
 My first thought is...who in the community is standing up and taking
 the responsibility as the front line testers of preupgrade during the
 pre-release process?  

I did test it. It worked well for the most part. I filed bug reports and
RFE's for the rest. They are in bugzilla.

Rahul

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente

On 07/25/2009 06:37 PM, Brad Longo wrote:

I wouldn't say Fedora 11 is that bad, but it has certainly has been
problematic for me as well. I have to agree with Alan Cox that all of
your issues were caused by preupgrade. The best thing to do is to create
a separate partition for your home folder, then replace the operating
system for new releases, and redirect Fedora to where your home folder
is in fstab.


it was a mistake to mention preupgrade. i use dvd to upgrade my system 
only after the dvd installer crash i try preupgrade which also crash.

all i describe happened after a dvd upgrade on one of my f10 system.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente

On 07/25/2009 08:56 PM, Björn Persson wrote:

Fortunately I had read in this list that upgrading breaks Yum so I did a fresh
install instead, and only had to spend a few days getting all the configuration
back into shape. Sound started working after I deleted ~/.pulse.


and if you is broken then the whole system is broken! so everybody have 
to spenda few days to get back their config. so we only have to spend a 
few days every half year. it's even worse then if i install windows. 
it's a really nice release.

why is it so difficult to upgrade packages?

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Farkas Levente wrote:
 it was a mistake to mention preupgrade. i use dvd to upgrade my system
 only after the dvd installer crash i try preupgrade which also crash.

As it's Anaconda that does the work with both Preupgrade and the DVD, it's not 
surprising that it crashed the same way both times. The only way to avoid 
Anaconda is to upgrade by Yum.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread drago01
Well I upgraded two systems from F10 to F11 using anaconda (booted the
DVD), run a yum update after that and it works just fine.

One of this systems have been running Fedora since FC4 and got updated
to F/FC N+1 using the same method and still works.
(FC4-FC5-FC6-F7-F8-F9-F10-F11)

Seems like your problem is that anaconda for some reasons crash on
your system, but with the infos you provided we can only speculate
what happened.

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yum-presto plugin by default

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi,

Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide?

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread oleksandr korneta

on 07/25/2009 11:46 AM Chuck Anderson wrote:



I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical 
Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.  



interesting idea. Do you keep the same home for both?

I don't do upgrades either, since the time rh9 to fc1 didn't work for 
me. But I dont complain, kind of got used to the idea that fedora is not 
made for upgrades. However, fresh install every time takes too much time 
for  deploying all the old tweaked configs and stuff... so I switch 
between versions just once a year, from f N to f n+2, keeping two 
consequent  version of fedora on two different machines.





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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote:
 on 07/25/2009 11:46 AM Chuck Anderson wrote:


 I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical Volumes
 actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.

I took this one step forward. I keep 3 partitions Fedora N, N+1 and N+2.


 interesting idea. Do you keep the same home for both?


Interestingly, home directories are more stable across the Fedora
releases than anything else. With the above update scheme, I kept the
same home directories for a few Fedora releases in a row (since ~FC5).
Once I had to rename the ~/.kde directory during the KDE3-KDE4
transition but that's all.

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Help needed with fedora-security-guide-en-US-1.0-16.fc12

2009-07-25 Thread Eric Christensen
I'm having problems with a Publican package (the Security Guide).  Below you 
will see the latest build error from Koji.  I'm not familiar with the error and 
I can't find anything listed on the wiki pages that I'm used to finding 
solutions to packaging errors.

The SPEC file can be seen at 
http://sparks.fedorapeople.org/Packages/security-guide/fedora-security-guide-en-US.spec.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
Eric



Package: fedora-security-guide-en-US-1.0-16.fc12
Tag: dist-f12-rebuild
Status: failed
Built by: jkeating
ID: 117516
Started: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:44:37 UTC
Finished: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:49:17 UTC


fedora-security-guide-en-US-1.0-16.fc12 (117516) failed on 
x86-5.fedora.phx.redhat.com (noarch), x86-1.fedora.phx.redhat.com (noarch):
  BuildError: error building package (arch noarch), mock exited with status 1; 
see build.log for more information
SRPMS:
  fedora-security-guide-en-US-1.0-16.fc12.src.rpm

Failed tasks:
-

Task 1503758 on x86-5.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Task Type: build (dist-f12-rebuild, 
/cvs/pkgs:rpms/fedora-security-guide-en-US/devel:fedora-security-guide-en-US-1_0-16_fc12)

Task 1513511 on x86-1.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Task Type: buildArch (fedora-security-guide-en-US-1.0-16.fc12.src.rpm, noarch)
logs:
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513511name=build.log
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513511name=root.log
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513511name=state.log


Closed tasks:
-

Task 1513488 on x86-5.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Task Type: buildSRPMFromSCM 
(/cvs/pkgs:rpms/fedora-security-guide-en-US/devel:fedora-security-guide-en-US-1_0-16_fc12)
logs:
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513488name=build.log
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513488name=checkout.log
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513488name=root.log
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1513488name=state.log



Task Info: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1503758
Build Info: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=117516

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rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf, 1.1, 1.2 google-droid-fonts.spec, 1.7, 1.8 import.log, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-07-25 Thread nim
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv30201/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf 
google-droid-fonts.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
Ja


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore  16 Jan 2009 22:10:39 -  1.2
+++ .cvsignore  25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.3
@@ -6,3 +6,4 @@ DroidSerif-Bold.ttf
 DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf
 DroidSerif-Italic.ttf
 DroidSerif-Regular.ttf
+DroidSansJapanese.ttf


Index: google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf 16 Jan 2009 22:10:40 -  
1.1
+++ google-droid-fonts-sans-fontconfig.conf 25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  
1.2
@@ -13,7 +13,22 @@
   familysans-serif/family
 /default
   /alias
+  !-- CJK users should check this actually works for them --
   match target=scan
+test name=lang
+  stringja-jp/string
+/test
+test name=family
+  stringDroid Sans Japanese/string
+/test
+edit name=family
+  stringDroid Sans/string
+/edit
+  /match
+  match target=scan
+test name=lang compare=not_eq
+  stringja-jp/string
+/test
 test name=family
   stringDroid Sans Fallback/string
 /test


Index: google-droid-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/google-droid-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.7
retrieving revision 1.8
diff -u -p -r1.7 -r1.8
--- google-droid-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 01:03:49 -  1.7
+++ google-droid-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.8
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 %global fontname google-droid
 
-%global download_root 
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob_plain;f=data/fonts
+%global download_root 
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob_plain;f=data/fonts/
 
 %global common_desc \
 The Droid typeface family was designed in the fall of 2006 by Ascender's \
@@ -10,27 +10,29 @@ on a mobile handset when rendered in app
 other screen text.
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-# The font files all have the same version except for sans fallback which I'm 
going to ignore here
-Version: 1.0.112
-Release: 7%{?dist}
+# No sane versionning upstream
+Version: 20090320
+Epoch:   1
+Release: 1%{?dist}
 Summary: General-purpose fonts released by Google as part of Android
 
 Group: User Interface/X
 License:   ASL 2.0
 URL:   
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=tree;f=data/fonts
-Source1:   %{download_root}/DroidSans.ttf
-Source2:   %{download_root}/DroidSans-Bold.ttf
-Source3:   %{download_root}/DroidSansFallback.ttf
-Source4:   %{download_root}/DroidSansMono.ttf
-Source5:   %{download_root}/DroidSerif-Regular.ttf
-Source6:   %{download_root}/DroidSerif-Bold.ttf
-Source7:   %{download_root}/DroidSerif-Italic.ttf
-Source8:   %{download_root}/DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf
-Source9:   %{download_root}/NOTICE
-Source10:  %{download_root}/README.txt
-Source11:  %{name}-sans-fontconfig.conf
-Source12:  %{name}-sans-mono-fontconfig.conf
-Source13:  %{name}-serif-fontconfig.conf
+Source1:   %{download_root}DroidSans.ttf
+Source2:   %{download_root}DroidSans-Bold.ttf
+Source3:   %{download_root}DroidSansJapanese.ttf
+Source4:   %{download_root}DroidSansFallback.ttf
+Source5:   %{download_root}DroidSansMono.ttf
+Source6:   %{download_root}DroidSerif-Regular.ttf
+Source7:   %{download_root}DroidSerif-Bold.ttf
+Source8:   %{download_root}DroidSerif-Italic.ttf
+Source9:   %{download_root}DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf
+Source20:  %{download_root}NOTICE
+Source21:  %{download_root}README.txt
+Source31:  %{name}-sans-fontconfig.conf
+Source32:  %{name}-sans-mono-fontconfig.conf
+Source33:  %{name}-serif-fontconfig.conf
 BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
 
 BuildArch: noarch
@@ -59,7 +61,7 @@ Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{
 Droid Sans is a humanist sans serif typeface designed for user interfaces and
 electronic communication.
 
-%_font_pkg -n sans -f ??-%{fontname}-sans.conf DroidSans.ttf 
DroidSans-Bold.ttf DroidSansFallback.ttf
+%_font_pkg -n sans -f ??-%{fontname}-sans.conf DroidSans.ttf 
DroidSans-Bold.ttf DroidSansJapanese.ttf DroidSansFallback.ttf
 
 
 %package -n %{fontname}-sans-mono-fonts
@@ -93,8 +95,8 @@ companion Droid Sans.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -c -T
-install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE9}  notice.txt
-install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE10} readme.txt
+install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE20}  

[Bug 512867] please add DroidSansJapanese.ttf

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512867


Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-07-25 
06:59:19 EDT ---
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1510404

Please check the included fontconfig rules actually work for CJK users

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[Bug 22942] New: fc-query does not detect Japanese in Droid Sans Japanese

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22942

   Summary: fc-query does not detect Japanese in Droid Sans Japanese
   Product: fontconfig
   Version: 2.7
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: medium
 Component: fc-cat
AssignedTo: freedesk...@behdad.org
ReportedBy: nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
 QAContact: kei...@keithp.com
CC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com


Droid Sans Japanese was clearly created to support Japanese, but fc-query does
not tag it with japanese lang so it won't be used by apps

 fc-query DroidSansJapanese.ttf 
Pattern has 20 elts (size 32)
family: Droid Sans Japanese(s)
familylang: en(s)
style: Regular(s)
stylelang: en(s)
fullname: Droid Sans Japanese(s)
fullnamelang: en(s)
slant: 0(i)(s)
weight: 80(i)(s)
width: 100(i)(s)
spacing: 90(i)(s)
foundry: unknown(s)
file: DroidSansJapanese.ttf(s)
index: 0(i)(s)
outline: FcTrue(s)
scalable: FcTrue(s)
charset: 0030: 103fffef  fffe  780f fffe
 787f
004e: 43f36f8b 9b462442 e3e0e82c 400a0004 db365f65 04497977 e3f0ecd7
08c56038
004f: 3403e602 35518000 7eabe0c8 98698200 2942a948 8060e803 ad93441c
4568c03a
0050: 8656aa60 02403f7a 14618388 21741020 07022021 40bc3000 4462a624
0a2060a8
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676326c3
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05cfff3e
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24046366
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62800018
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a60d4009
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rpms/linux-libertine-fonts/devel linux-libertine-fonts.spec, 1.13, 1.14

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/linux-libertine-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv4497

Modified Files:
linux-libertine-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: linux-libertine-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/linux-libertine-fonts/devel/linux-libertine-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -p -r1.13 -r1.14
--- linux-libertine-fonts.spec  15 Jul 2009 06:03:06 -  1.13
+++ linux-libertine-fonts.spec  25 Jul 2009 11:08:05 -  1.14
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:4.4.1
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Linux Libertine Open Fonts
 
 Group:  User Interface/X
@@ -68,6 +68,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 %doc OFL.txt GPL.txt ChangeLog.txt LICENCE.txt Readme Readme-TEX.txt
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 4.4.1-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Tue Jul 14 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 4.4.1-1
 - Upgrade to 4.4.1
 - Fix to match current font guidelines

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rpms/lohit-fonts/devel lohit-fonts.spec,1.12,1.13

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9585

Modified Files:
lohit-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: lohit-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/lohit-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.12
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -p -r1.12 -r1.13
--- lohit-fonts.spec5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 -   1.12
+++ lohit-fonts.spec25 Jul 2009 11:16:17 -  1.13
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ Languages.
 
 Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:2.3.8
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Free Indian truetype/opentype fonts
 
 Group:  User Interface/X
@@ -267,6 +267,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 2.3.8-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 
 * Thu Mar 05 2009 Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com - 2.3.8-1.fc11
 - Bug 428427 - [kn_IN][fonts-indic] - 0CB5+0CCA is wrongly rendering 

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rpms/mathml-fonts/devel mathml-fonts.spec,1.16,1.17

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/mathml-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv31518

Modified Files:
mathml-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: mathml-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/mathml-fonts/devel/mathml-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.16
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -p -r1.16 -r1.17
--- mathml-fonts.spec   25 Feb 2009 23:45:48 -  1.16
+++ mathml-fonts.spec   25 Jul 2009 11:49:47 -  1.17
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 Summary: Mathematical symbol fonts
 Name:mathml-fonts
 Version: 1.0 
-Release: 23%{?dist}
+Release: 24%{?dist}
 
 URL: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts/
 # The actual license says The author of these fonts, Basil K. Malyshev, has 
@@ -128,6 +128,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.0-24
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.0-23
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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rpms/mgopen-fonts/devel mgopen-fonts.spec,1.15,1.16

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/mgopen-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12024

Modified Files:
mgopen-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: mgopen-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/mgopen-fonts/devel/mgopen-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.15
retrieving revision 1.16
diff -u -p -r1.15 -r1.16
--- mgopen-fonts.spec   26 Feb 2009 00:35:10 -  1.15
+++ mgopen-fonts.spec   25 Jul 2009 12:09:03 -  1.16
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ It can be safely uninstalled.
 
 Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   0.%{upstream_date}
-Release:   15%{?dist}
+Release:   16%{?dist}
 Summary:   Truetype greek fonts
 Group: User Interface/X
 License:   MgOpen
@@ -157,6 +157,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %files compat
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.20050515-16
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.20050515-15
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.3, 1.4 google-droid-fonts.spec, 1.8, 1.9 import.log, 1.5, 1.6 sources, 1.3, 1.4

2009-07-25 Thread nim
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16254/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore google-droid-fonts.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
stupid fixup


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- .cvsignore  25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.3
+++ .cvsignore  25 Jul 2009 14:40:50 -  1.4
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 DroidSans-Bold.ttf
 DroidSans.ttf
 DroidSansFallback.ttf
+DroidSansJapanese.ttf
 DroidSansMono.ttf
 DroidSerif-Bold.ttf
 DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf
 DroidSerif-Italic.ttf
 DroidSerif-Regular.ttf
-DroidSansJapanese.ttf


Index: google-droid-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/google-droid-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- google-droid-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.8
+++ google-droid-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 14:40:50 -  1.9
@@ -12,8 +12,7 @@ other screen text.
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 # No sane versionning upstream
 Version: 20090320
-Epoch:   1
-Release: 1%{?dist}
+Release: 3%{?dist}
 Summary: General-purpose fonts released by Google as part of Android
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -140,7 +139,7 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 %changelog
 * Sat Jul 25 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
-- 20090320-1
+- 20090320-3
 — try to fit Japanese in
 
 * Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- import.log  25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.5
+++ import.log  25 Jul 2009 14:40:50 -  1.6
@@ -3,3 +3,4 @@ google-droid-fonts-1_0_112-3_fc11:HEAD:g
 
google-droid-fonts-1_0_112-4_fc11:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-1.0.112-4.fc11.src.rpm:1233428004
 
google-droid-fonts-1_0_112-5_fc11:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-1.0.112-5.fc11.src.rpm:1235379417
 
google-droid-fonts-20090320-1_fc12:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-20090320-1.fc12.src.rpm:1248519226
+google-droid-fonts-20090320-3_fc12:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-20090320-3.fc12.src.rpm:1248532826


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- sources 25 Jul 2009 10:54:37 -  1.3
+++ sources 25 Jul 2009 14:40:51 -  1.4
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 2afdf28d5cdd079b41968cdabf1b469e  DroidSans-Bold.ttf
 6f28ad369fa0f2661cc2de7a7be9977e  DroidSans.ttf
 4caeadd734f4be9973163bdf02ea6cf5  DroidSansFallback.ttf
+8fbc87c7c5089a8e86c670b93a78964f  DroidSansJapanese.ttf
 3922dfe38a36da7d6edfb1fe77b276fb  DroidSansMono.ttf
 849a92990a80cbb665bfc74fd03743bd  DroidSerif-Bold.ttf
 a062025df92affc1331a05b7c07793fc  DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf
 a2e7305a0ba8bb7091124f4cd1485fc9  DroidSerif-Italic.ttf
 bfb2f44a7c1deba39f7f4d39bff18eeb  DroidSerif-Regular.ttf
-8fbc87c7c5089a8e86c670b93a78964f  DroidSansJapanese.ttf

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rpms/myanmar3-unicode-fonts/devel myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec, 1.2, 1.3

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/myanmar3-unicode-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15327

Modified Files:
myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/myanmar3-unicode-fonts/devel/myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec 26 Feb 2009 03:32:59 -  1.2
+++ myanmar3-unicode-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 15:28:43 -  1.3
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 3.00
-Release: 2%{?dist}
+Release: 3%{?dist}
 Summary: Myanmar3 unicode font
 
 Group:   User Interface/X
@@ -68,6 +68,9 @@ fi
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.00-3
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.00-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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rpms/nafees-web-naskh-fonts/devel nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec, 1.6, 1.7

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/nafees-web-naskh-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24652

Modified Files:
nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/nafees-web-naskh-fonts/devel/nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7
--- nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec 11 Apr 2009 20:42:19 -  1.6
+++ nafees-web-naskh-fonts.spec 25 Jul 2009 15:42:27 -  1.7
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:1.2
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Nafees Web font for writing Urdu in the Naskh script 
 
 Group:  User Interface/X
@@ -58,6 +58,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %dir %{_fontdir}
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.2-3
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Sat Apr 11 2009 Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org - 1.2-2
 - added comment explaining how the source is obtained (as it is modified from 
upstream)
 - temporary fix for RHBZ#490830 while not fixed upstream

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[Bug 22942] fc-query does not detect Japanese in Droid Sans Japanese

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22942


Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||freedesk...@behdad.org




--- Comment #1 from Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org  2009-07-25 
12:42:32 PST ---
Where do I get Droid Sans Japanese?


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[Bug 22942] fc-query does not detect Japanese in Droid Sans Japanese

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22942





--- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-07-25 
12:50:33 PST ---
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=117372
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=tree;f=data/fonts


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rpms/freetype/F-11 freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch, NONE, 1.1 freetype.spec, 1.73, 1.74

2009-07-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Author: behdad

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15221

Modified Files:
freetype.spec 
Added Files:
freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch 
Log Message:
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Behdad Esfahbod beh...@redhat.com 2.3.9-5 
- Add freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch 
- Resolves: 513582 


freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch:
 ftccache.h |3 +--
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)

--- NEW FILE freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch ---
--- freetype-2.3.9.bak/src/cache/ftccache.h 2007-05-16 17:37:05.0 
+0200
+++ freetype-2.3.9/src/cache/ftccache.h 2009-07-02 14:54:10.0 +0200
@@ -246,8 +246,7 @@
 error = FTC_Cache_NewNode( _cache, _hash, query, _node );   \
  \
   _Ok:   \
-_pnode = (FTC_Node*)(void*)(node);  \
-*_pnode = _node; \
+node = _node;   \
   FT_END_STMNT
 
 #else /* !FTC_INLINE */


Index: freetype.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype/F-11/freetype.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.73
retrieving revision 1.74
diff -u -p -r1.73 -r1.74
--- freetype.spec   7 May 2009 21:32:44 -   1.73
+++ freetype.spec   25 Jul 2009 20:06:31 -  1.74
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 Summary: A free and portable font rendering engine
 Name: freetype
 Version: 2.3.9
-Release: 4%{?dist}
+Release: 5%{?dist}
 License: FTL or GPLv2+
 Group: System Environment/Libraries
 URL: http://www.freetype.org
@@ -31,6 +31,9 @@ Patch88:  freetype-multilib.patch
 # Fix crash https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6841
 Patch89:  freetype-2.2.1-memcpy-fix.patch
 
+# Fix aliasing issue
+Patch90: freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch
+
 Buildroot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 BuildRequires: libX11-devel
@@ -97,6 +100,7 @@ popd
 
 %patch88 -p1 -b .multilib
 %patch89 -p1 -b .memcpy
+%patch90 -p1 -b .aliasing
 
 %build
 
@@ -226,6 +230,10 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %doc docs/tutorial
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Behdad Esfahbod beh...@redhat.com 2.3.9-5
+- Add freetype-2.3.9-aliasing.patch
+- Resolves: 513582
+
 * Thu May  7 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com 2.3.9-4
 - Don't own /usr/lib/pkgconfig
 

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[Bug 18724] RFE: font merging

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18724


Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||freedesk...@behdad.org




--- Comment #4 from Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org  2009-07-25 
13:22:52 PST ---
Nicolas, did you try that?


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[Bug 513582] segfault in FTC_CMapCache_Lookup()

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513582





--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-07-25 16:24:14 EDT ---
freetype-2.3.9-5.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.3.9-5.fc11

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rpms/oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts/devel oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec, 1.1, 1.2

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27168

Modified Files:
oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts/devel/oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec   1 Apr 2009 20:51:39 -   
1.1
+++ oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts.spec   25 Jul 2009 20:36:06 -  
1.2
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Summary:   Clean serif font based on Kennerly Old Style
 Version:   20080206
-Release:   2%{?dist}
+Release:   3%{?dist}
 License:   Public Domain
 Group: User Interface/X
 Source0:   
http://openfontlibrary.org/people/chemoelectric/chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip
@@ -43,6 +43,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.otf
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 20080206-3
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Tue Mar 31 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com 20080206-2
 - rename package to oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts
 - drop common_desc (unnecessary)

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rpms/oflb-notcouriersans-fonts/devel oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec, 1.1, 1.2

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-notcouriersans-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27361

Modified Files:
oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-notcouriersans-fonts/devel/oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec  4 Jul 2009 11:53:12 -   1.1
+++ oflb-notcouriersans-fonts.spec  25 Jul 2009 20:36:25 -  1.2
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 
 Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   1.1
-Release:   1%{?dist}
+Release:   2%{?dist}
 Summary:   NotCourier Sans is a re-interpretation of Nimbus Mono
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -72,6 +72,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.1-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Sun Jun 14 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursi...@fedoraproject.org
 - 1.1-1
 - Initial RPM build.

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rpms/oldstandard-sfd-fonts/devel oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec, 1.5, 1.6

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Author: jkeating

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oldstandard-sfd-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28842

Modified Files:
oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Index: oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/oldstandard-sfd-fonts/devel/oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec  15 Mar 2009 21:11:02 -  1.5
+++ oldstandard-sfd-fonts.spec  25 Jul 2009 20:38:45 -  1.6
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 
 Name:  %{fontname}-sfd-fonts
 Version:   2.0.2
-Release:   7%{?dist}
+Release:   8%{?dist}
 Summary:   Old Standard True-Type Fonts
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -80,6 +80,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %dir %{_fontdir}/
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 2.0.2-8
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 
 * Mon Mar 16 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha at fedoraproject.org - 2.0.2-7
 - changed in accordance with #490369

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[Bug 513582] segfault in FTC_CMapCache_Lookup()

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #7 from Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org  2009-07-25 17:59:05 
EDT ---
What about F12? And F10?

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[Bug 513582] segfault in FTC_CMapCache_Lookup()

2009-07-25 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #8 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com  2009-07-25 23:31:02 
EDT ---
I reported the issue upstream, so I'm hoping to get a new release with the fix
for F12.  Feel free to build for F10.

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Re: [PATCH] Setup sigul bridge and client

2009-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 06:55 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 Not necessarily related to enabling the builder repo: Is having the same
 rpm versions as the builders necessary?

Yes.  The bridge and server will be dealing with rpms that are being
built by koji, and will need to be able to understand the payloads and
checksums, as well as perform the larger signing.  As we make changes to
rpm and update the builders to handle those changes, we'll have to
update the signing and composing systems too.

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vnc and inetd

2009-07-25 Thread Chris Kottaridis
I am trying to get vnc working via inetd on my Fedora Core 8 machine. I
want to be able to use a vnc viewer to open up a window and get a login
window, so I can be logged into the same machine twice under different
usernames.

I followed the man page for Xvnc:
=
In the nowait mode, Xvnc uses its standard input and output directly as
the connection to a viewer.  It never has a listening socket, so cannot
accept  further connections from viewers (it can however connect out to
listening viewers by use of the  vncconfig  program).   Further  viewer
connections  to  the  same  TCP port result in inetd spawning off a new
Xvnc to deal with each connection.  When the connection to  the  viewer
dies,  the  Xvnc  and  any associated X clients die.  This behaviour is
most useful when combined with the XDMCP options -query and -once.   An
typical example in inetd.conf might be (all on one line):

5950streamtcp  nowait  nobody   /usr/local/bin/Xvnc Xvnc -inetd
   -query localhost -once securitytypes=none

In this example a viewer connection to :50 will result in  a  new  Xvnc
for  that connection which should display the standard XDM login screen
on that machine.  Because the user needs to login via XDM, it  is  usu-
ally OK to accept connections without a VNC password in this case.
=

Of course I had to make an xinetd file, but I seem to have this working.
I am running as nobody from xinetd as mentioned above if that is a
problem. I can connect with a vnc viewer and it pops up a new window.
However, I don't get the xdm login window, just a blank pattern. The
docs imply that it'll coordinate with xdm and give me a login window.

I found instructions here to try and get xdm to work with a vnc window:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel.rigal/xdmvnc.html

I changed all the files mentioned and rebooted. But, I still just get a
window with a blank pattern when I connect to :50. When I try to run the
xdm test:

X -query hostname :1

it seems to start something up another window but with the same blank
background pattern I see in the vnc window. I can ctl-alt-F7 
ctl-alt-F8 to go back and forth.

But, it seems like I am missing something that will enable xdm to take
control of the new windows created.

What am I missing ?

Thanks
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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Suvayu Ali

On Friday 24 July 2009 08:50 PM, g wrote:

Suvayu Ali wrote:

On Friday 24 July 2009 08:03 PM, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:


I'm assuming the dirs are full of thousands of files.  So, how do I get
rid of them?

Those are most probably cached files which never got deleted after you
closed your browser. rm -f should take care of it.


if user is in directory /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin' and he is
looking at *directories*, he has to use 'rm -fR *' to remove subdirectories
and their content.

see 'man rm'.



Oops! missed that -R.

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread g
Suvayu Ali wrote:

 Oops! missed that -R.

makes a world of difference for sure.

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Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work

2009-07-25 Thread Terry Barnaby

On 07/24/2009 10:40 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Terry Barnaby wrote:

On 07/22/2009 02:07 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:02:09PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote:

Hi,

I have noticed on several occasions, that running kill -9pid on
a GUI 3D process that is locked at 100% CPU usage (X-Server 100% also)
does not work. The 100% lockup I'm sure is due to the currently buggy
3D support (ATI in my case), but I am surprised that I cannot kill
either the GUI or X processes. Only a reboot appears to work.

Has something changed here ??


If you provide more details, such as the actual process you're
running, people might be able to try to duplicate the problem. I've
never seen an occasion where kill -9 didn't work, but that doesn't
mean it's not possible with some horribly written code.


The system in question is a dual Xeon system running Fedora-11 with
all updates
to 2009-07-22. Graphics board is an ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO].
I have some applications installed from rpmfusion including paraview.

Currently if I run paraview, X goes to 100% and I can no longer
operate the system via mouse/keyboard. Via a network login I
can killall -9 X but that does nothing to X. I have also
tried killing paraview in the same way with no effect (possibly
after trying to kill X).


I hope this is a typo, process X is long gone, the X process is called
Xorg now. I assume you had a finger check and actually killed the real
X process.


On F11 Xorg is hard linked to X and X is the program started.
So in ps listings the XServer process is named X and to kill it
with killall you need to do a killall -9 X ...

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cpuspeed problem - repost

2009-07-25 Thread solarflow99
I am wondering if anyone happens to have any idea about this, searching
google seemed to turn up no results.

service cpuspeed restart
Stopping cpuspeed: [  OK  ]
modinfo: could not find module cpufreq-userspace
Starting cpuspeed: [  OK  ]

This is the error i'm getting; does anyone else have this?  and does anyone
know what package this module is part of?  I am using Fedora 10


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Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:20:36 -0400, William wrote:

sudo alsa-info --no-upload --with-amixer --with-devices

So, your onboard audio chipset is ALSA device '0', and the TV card does
not appear as a second audio device '1'. That can be helpful, because lots
of other tv/radio cards appears as a seperate audio device and add several
playback/capture controls to ALSA based tools and applications.
Confusing, however, is to see not only a pair of digital+analogue capture
hw devices but a second analogue one. Settings are only provided for
two though, and the 2nd one is switched off.

[same as $ amixer get 'Capture',0 ] # 'name',index
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 31
  Front Left: Capture 31 [100%] [34.50dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 31 [100%] [34.50dB] [on]

[ $ amixer get 'Capture',1 ]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',1
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 31
  Front Left: Capture 17 [55%] [13.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 17 [55%] [13.50dB] [off]

Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Line'

Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Mic'

  ? ALSA numbers the audio devices it finds, starting with 0. (That's the
  name N number you can pass to alsamixer -cN when using it as an alternative
  to tvtime's mixer functionality.)
  
 Yes, but are the audio devices in the /proc, /dev, or /sys vfs.  If so,
 where? 

ALSA enumerates the hardware devices. The Linux device files are in
/dev/snd/ with ALSA giving info in /proc/asound/, but you still need to
contruct intentifiers as understood by amixer, too. While you only have
one 'Line' (or 'Line',0) you have 'Capture',0 and 'Capture',1, and
when switching on your tv card using Linux, it must be clear how
audio is routed (if at all) or whether the only available way is to
decode and play back the mpeg stream on /dev/video1.

 ...
 cx23885 driver version 0.0.1 loaded
 cx23885 :02:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
 CORE cx23885[0]: subsystem: 0070:7801, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1800
 [card=2,autodetected]
 tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge model 78521, rev C1E9, serial# 4870798
 tveeprom 1-0050: MAC address is 00-0D-FE-4A-52-8E
 tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is Philips 18271_8295 (idx 149, type 54)
 tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) ATSC/DVB Digital (eeprom 0x88)
 tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is CX23887 (idx 42)
 tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is CX23887 (idx 37)
 tveeprom 1-0050: has radio
 cx23885[0]: hauppauge eeprom: model=78521
 cx25840 3-0044: cx25  0-21 found @ 0x88 (cx23885[0])
 cx25840 3-0044: firmware: requesting v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 cx25840 3-0044: unable to open firmware v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw

Firmware file isn't found:
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800#Firmware

 The above site suggests the addition of firmware for cx23885
 The 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 kernel seems to have that module included.

I may misunderstand you, but module and firmware are two different
things. The Linux kernel includes the driver, the kernel module, but
that module still sends a request to load a separate firmware file. I
cannot spot that file in the kernel-firmware package either.

   for /dev/video0 (as only
  the channel chooser) and 
 
  mplayer for playing the mpeg stream on
  /dev/video1?
 
 I haven't gone back to mplayer.  I originally tried it as an experiment,
 in the hopes to learn something about tv tuners etc. and why tvtime
 wasn't working.  I am not sure it is a worthwhile experiment, but will
 try to get mplayer going, if you suggest it.

That is because the few success reports mention that as a solution.

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Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 July 2009 00:31:09 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 PA is too damn fragile to use unless you are one of the few
 who has it work out of the box.

It's a funny thing, but I have three very different systems where PA has worked 
perfectly out-of-the-box.  I'm not denying that some people have problems, but 
going by my experience there must be many that don't.  Of course you never 
hear from them ;-)

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Re: acer one

2009-07-25 Thread roland
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:43:52 +0200, Mikkel L. Ellertson  
mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:



roland wrote:

I tried to do this, but he complains saying the stick is not bootable
so I should use /sbin/parted
Parted only allows to make a ext2 filesystem.
How should I do this. Why does it work out of the box with you guys?


First of all, parted will make many other file systems besides ext2.
From the man page:

mkfs partition fs-type
  Make  a  filesystem  fs-type on partition. fs-type can be
  one of fat16, fat32, ext2, linux-swap, or reiserfs.

But I believe what they are asking you to do is make sure the boot
flag is set on the partition.



what should be the capacity of the stick?

roland

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secure log question

2009-07-25 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I have these lines in my logwatch report:

 - Connections (secure-log) Begin -


 **Unmatched Entries**
gdm-session-worker: gkr-pam: couldn't get the user name:
Conversation error: 2 Time(s)
gdm-session-worker: pam_selinux_permit(gdm:auth): Cannot determine
the user's name: 2 Time(s)
gdm-session-worker: pam_succeed_if(gdm:auth): error retrieving user
name: Conversation error: 4 Time(s)

 -- Connections (secure-log) End 

This happens only when I don't switch off my machine during night.

What does it mean?

Thank you.


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Fedora 11 - re-mount a usb drive

2009-07-25 Thread FlatBall
I am running Fedora 11 on an old IBM Desktop box. Running as a server (NO GUI). 
When I mount a usb drive with the command:

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb

The drive mounts up just fine. (It took me forever to figure out that sda1 
didn't work on this box.) The problem comes if I umount it and take the drive 
out of the usb port. After plugging it back in, the mount command no longer 
works. It barks about specifying the file system, and when I specify the file 
system, it says that there is no device there. If I restart the server (a bit 
extreme to mount a usb drive) it works fine.

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Re: cpan2rpm not in fedora 11 repo??

2009-07-25 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 11:53 +1000, L wrote:
 Hi,
 
 when I install cpan2rpm for Fedora 11, it said
 
 No package cpan2rpm available.
 Nothing to do
 I looked at web and downloaded one from
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=95871
 
 why this rpm is not in fedora 11 repo?

It's been superseded by cpanspec, use that instead.
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Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:49:06 -0400, William wrote:

  amixer info - provides information about the default card.
 ]$ amixer info
 Card default 'pulse'/'PulseAudio'
   Mixer name  : 'PulseAudio'
   Components  : ''
   Controls  : 4
   Simple ctrls  : 2

This is with PulseAudio running, however, and therefore differs very much
from native ALSA without PulseAudio running. That adds another level on
top of ALSA. If you keep PulseAudio running, you rely on PulseAudio to get
several things right, and you cannot influence it since PulseAudio adds
itself as another layer on top of ALSA. Hence you see a pulse device
instead of the default (hw:0) device, for example. Same for input.

 I then tried the pavucontrol gui configured to 'Profile: Output Analog
 Stereo + Input Analog Stereo'.

Input Analog Stereo to me means it refers to Microphone and Line input
jacks which are connected with your onboard audio chipset. Unless somebody
disagress, that is the operation mode where you would need to place an
audio cable between tv card and input jack. Unlike digital input.

 The Profile I choose, 'Output Analog Stereo + Input Analog Stereo', gave
 me the most detail under the Playback, Output Devices and Input Devices
 tabs.  In fact, when using RhythmBox, Playback and Output Devices tabs
 showed the application name and a sound activity bar.  Similarly, when
 playing a video on CNN, Playback showed 'ALSA plug-in [firefox]' and
 sound activity.
 
 However, when using tvtime no application is recognized by pavucontrol.

Again, that is because tvtime doesn't do any audio playback at all.

 $ amixer contents
 numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Switch'
   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw--,values=1
   : values=on
 numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw--,values=2,min=0,max=65536,step=1
   : values=57583,57583
 numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch'
   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw--,values=1
   : values=on
 numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume'
   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw--,values=2,min=0,max=65536,step=1
   : values=65536,65536
 
 This too suggests I should use 'Master' as the tvtime control/channel.

Can't follow that conclusion. 'Master' controls the final volume
of the sum of all active channels. It doesn't control which capture
channel is active and whether its volume is levelled up at all.
It also doesn't control whether any signal is sent to an input
channel (in analogue mode).

  Now, amixer defaults to sound card 0 (hw:0), but it can show other
  sound cards using the -c option (-c n). 
 
 No combination of amixer and -c1 produces anything useful other than the
 standard help list on stdout/stderr.

You don't have a device '1'. Your onboard chipset is the only one, '0'.

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:50am on Saturday, July 25, 2009 (UK time), g scrawled:

 if user is in directory /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin' and he is
 looking at *directories*, he has to use 'rm -fR *' to remove subdirectories
 and their content.

Or, 'rm -rf *' - those extra key strokes take years off your life :-)

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Re: [OT] I introduce myself

2009-07-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 25 July 2009 00:30:32 Julian Aloofi wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 24.07.2009, 16:47 -0600 schrieb Elodh Elleuthe:
  Hello List:
 
  My name is Elodh. I am glad to join to the list of Fedora users.
 
  Greetings!

 Welcome on the list. Have a good time here! :D

+1!

And before anybody jumps in on you in a hostile way, make sure to read the 
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You will always be better appreciated if you honor the guidelines.

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Re: Fedora 11 - re-mount a usb drive

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
FlatBall wrote:
 I am running Fedora 11 on an old IBM Desktop box. Running as a
 server (NO GUI). When I mount a usb drive with the command:
 
 mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
 
 The drive mounts up just fine. (It took me forever to figure out
 that sda1 didn't work on this box.)

/dev/sda is you internal hard drive.

 The problem comes if I umount it and take the drive out of the 
 usb port. After plugging it back in, the mount command no longer
 works. It barks about specifying the file system, and when I
 specify the file system, it says that there is no device there.
 If I restart the server (a bit extreme to mount a usb drive) it
 works fine.
 
You need to check /var/log/messages when you plug it in. I am
guessing that it is /dev/sdc the second time.

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Re: active network connection stops working...

2009-07-25 Thread Rick Sewill
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 00:48 -0500, charles zeitler wrote:

I was leading you on a wild goose chase...sorry.

Looking at your syslog, your ISP is providing you with DNS servers.


Jul 22 22:29:01 cthuga pppd[1964]: local  IP address 76.236.148.89
Jul 22 22:29:01 cthuga pppd[1964]: remote IP address 151.164.182.119
Jul 22 22:29:01 cthuga pppd[1964]: primary   DNS address 68.94.156.1
Jul 22 22:29:01 cthuga pppd[1964]: secondary DNS address 68.94.157.1
Jul 22 22:29:01 cthuga pppd[1972]: Can't execute /etc/ppp/ip-up: Permission
denied
Jul 22 22:29:02 cthuga ntpd[1512]: Listening on interface #5 ppp0,
76.236.148.89#123 Enabled


The question remains...why doesn't pppd update /etc/resolv.conf.

Previous people may be correct in wondering why ip-up can't be executed.
You already did ls -l /etc/ppp/ip-up and found the file permissions were 
correct.
I don't know how to check selinux permissions for this file.
Is the contents of /etc/ppp/ip-up correct?  I assume the file starts
with #!/bin/bash and there are no funny line endings.

I fear it may be time to search the Internet for bug reports.
I'm not sure what search words to use to find appropriate bugs.

Again, I'm sorry for leading you astray.  Your ISP is giving you DNS.

-Rick


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Fedora 11 user apps + Rawhide Kernels?

2009-07-25 Thread Frank Murphy

Am I right here:

F11 Repos
excludepkgs=kernel*

rawhide.repo
includepkgs=kernel*


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Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?

2009-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:21:26 -0500,
  Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:

 Even that is not a sure measure. How many people are using user
 agent switchers to fool sites about what browser they are using?

At home I don't supply one when using firefox. (I used to have a patched
lynx, but don't anymore so when I use lynx or wget I supply a real one.)
At work we have an app that incorrectly rejects http(s) connections with 
a missing user agent. So at work I usually have it set to be one that
Google uses. When I use that app from home, I usually write a note
complaining about the brokenness, as a temporary useragent header.
So there's at least one.

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 23:03 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Can someone tell me what these dirs are for and why they're so hard to
 delete:
 
 [ran...@ranbir plugin]$ pwd
 /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin
 
 [ran...@ranbir plugin]$ ls -l
 total 523808
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir  99831808 2009-07-24 22:43 gnome-mplayeraabsvy
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir 107634688 2009-07-10 10:28 gnome-mplayercwgvib
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir  29638656 2009-07-10 10:28 gnome-mplayerjjkyiv
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir 101244928 2009-07-10 10:28 gnome-mplayerkaotaa
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir  99209216 2009-07-10 10:28 gnome-mplayerrkujaa
 drwxr-xr-x 2 ranbir ranbir  98258944 2009-07-10 10:28 gnome-mplayerxnyieu
 
 
 I don't know how they were created.  So I decided to delete them, but
 they don't actually get deleted.  If I try an ls, my HD grinds away
 without printing any output to the screen.
 
 I'm assuming the dirs are full of thousands of files.  So, how do I get
 rid of them?
Why assume? Why not just look at how many there are?
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: vnc and inetd

2009-07-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Chris Kottaridis wrote:


 I followed the man page for Xvnc:
 =
 In the nowait mode, Xvnc uses its standard input and output directly as
 the connection to a viewer.  It never has a listening socket, so cannot
 accept  further connections from viewers (it can however connect out to
 listening viewers by use of the  vncconfig  program).   Further  viewer
 connections  to  the  same  TCP port result in inetd spawning off a new
 Xvnc to deal with each connection.  When the connection to  the  viewer
 dies,  the  Xvnc  and  any associated X clients die.  This behaviour is
 most useful when combined with the XDMCP options -query and -once.   An
 typical example in inetd.conf might be (all on one line):
 
 5950streamtcp  nowait  nobody   /usr/local/bin/Xvnc Xvnc -inetd
-query localhost -once securitytypes=none

the vnc-ltsp-config package does much of this for you, may be worth taking a 
look.

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Re: Fwd: acer one (forgot attach)

2009-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:31:03 -0400,
  NoSpaze nosp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I remember hearing Anaconda was rewritten from scratch for this Fedora
 release. When tried installing on qemu, I got the same message, if am
 not wrong.

You misunderstood. The storage handling parts of anaconda had major changes
and was referred to as a rewrite; but my memory of the commits, is that
even that was done in large increments rather than as a rewrite from
scratch.

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Re: e2fsck -y wipe all my data

2009-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 00:17 +, yordy wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have a HD connected as USB device and cause for electrical problems in my 
 home, my disk go off unexpectedly more than one time some weeks ago, a few 
 days ago I can't mount neither of my linux partitions on that disk.
 
 Always I get this error: org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Disks.Error.Failed: Error 
 mounting: mount exited with exit code 32: mount: Stale NFS file handle
 
 I run an e2fsck -y /dev/sdb6 (one of the partition) and after the command 
 finished I mount the partition and... the partition is like a new linux 
 partition, all my data is lost. Under Nautilus/Properties filesystem type is 
 shown as ext3/ext4 and under Gparted filesystem is shown as ext2.
 
 Any idea why is this? Or how can I restore all the data pre existing in that 
 partition?
 
 Greetings

One assumes that the partion's structure was really screwed up and e2fsck 
removed the pointers to your data.
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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 Why assume? Why not just look at how many there are?

Because the ls never completes and eventually bombs out with a too
many files error.  So, though I am assuming, it's not really an
assumption.  :)

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Re: active network connection stops working...

2009-07-25 Thread Jim

On 07/24/2009 04:35 PM, charles zeitler wrote:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Rick Sewillrsew...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

You indicated there is no DNS resolution?
What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file please?

 

it is currently blank.

   

Can you ping an IP address if you do not use DNS resolution?

Can you ping www.google.com?
Can you ping 209.85.225.99?

 

i successfully pinged yahoo at 69.147.76.15

   

Am I correct in assuming you have never been able to surf the Internet
through this active network connection?  My previous comments assumed
you could surf the Internet, but your connection eventually failed.
 

my connection worked initially, and for some time, then suddenly dns stopped
working.



   
see if vou can ping linuxtoday.com, if it's a DNS problem you won't be 
able to connect to server.

Fedora is also having a IPV6 problem, it's looking for IPV6 instead of IPV4.

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 03:50 +, g wrote:
 if user is in directory /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin' and he is
 looking at *directories*, he has to use 'rm -fR *' to remove subdirectories
 and their content.

That won't work - there are too many files.

I ended up running this (while in
the /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin dir)

find . -type f -name '*' -exec rm -f {} \;

It has now been running for 15 minutes, and is still going.  Holy shit.

I still want to know why these files were created in the first place.  I
believe they are all jpegs because I was trying to run a backup, and as
rsync did it's thing, all I saw were 'jpg' files being backed up from
those dirs.  In fact, that's how I discovered these dirs in the first
place. FYI: I cancelled the backup.

I'm none too pleased with gnome-mplayer.

Regards,

Ranbir

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Re: Emacs Cannot find Fonts

2009-07-25 Thread Suvayu Ali

On Saturday 25 July 2009 05:40 AM, Jim Duda wrote:

I'm running fedora 11.

Can anyone explain why emacs won't start ?

If I do this:
$ /usr/bin/emacs
I get in response:
Font `-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1' is
not defined


However, if I then do this:
$ /usr/bin/emacs -fn
'-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1'

then emacs starts just fine.

I've reinstalled both emacs and xorg-x11-fonts-misc

Can anyone explain what's going on?

What package might I be missing?



I don't know what your problem is, but I have seen your thread in 
help-gnu-emacs, and the only thing I have to suggest is use emacs 23. 
I was also having lots of little problems with the default emacs build 
for F11. Finally I gave up, and gave in to my temptation to try out 
emacs 23.


Just do 'yum remove emacs' and then 'yum install emacs 
--enablerepo=rawhide', you wont regret it. Everything is so awesome in 
emacs 23 ... can't rave enough.


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fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
hi,
first of all i use linux since '94 so i've seen a few releases. and learned
to wait a few weeks before upgrade. now i try to upgrade from a few fully
update f10 to f11.
it's a nightmare!
on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition anaconda
crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just mdraid:-( and since
preupgrade also crash with the same error there is no way to properly
upgrade from the latest release to the next release! not even with nodmraid
kernel option.
on system where anaconda do not crash f10 update's yum newer then on f11
iso's so the installer do not upgrade yum! so after the upgrade yum no
longer works. as the installer do not upgrade kernel-devel akmods not able
to rebuild kernel module for nvidia and ati so X not able to start. in order
to be able to get the latest kernel-devel and akmods packages i need
network. but as i don't have X i can't use these fantastic networkmanager
tool and the old ifup wlan0 no longer works. but without networkmanager wifi
is not working so my laptop is no longer usable! no X ati do not working, no
wireless.
all of my system has a wrong openssl version so eg ntp never start.
after i manually get (with a pendrive) yum packages yum able to work but
crash and ask me to send this bug to the developer (but still without
network). there was some python 2.5 abi problem. how can a system critical
tool like yum depend on such a broken thing like python? currently there is
no way in installer to use rpm it use yum:-(
after i update by hand a few dozen of packages with rpm yum start to work.
now the worst part after i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to
update!!! just one month after the release! my system consist of 2059
packages at the same time yum download 2069 packages to update! what the
hell i doing??? why do i upgrade the system for a half days if i upgrade all
of my packages. why do i need a dvd iso? this download is more then the
whole iso!
and the real annoying part after i upgrade a few thousands of packages is
the sound no longer works! there is no volume control i can't play even a
wav file with play ...wav. is it so difficult thing? in 2009 it's a big
requirement that an operating system be able to play a wav file? anyway
nothing is working no sound at all skype is no longer works. tv tunner card
no longer works. why anybody try to push this pulse stuff!? it's known to
broken no one like it it's very early in development. after each fedora
release a real big part of the mailing list traffic is about pulseaudio.
let's just exclude it out and try to use it after 2012. are you really wanna
suck so much with it?
and the firefox and thunderbird betas... why? do we really need to be so
cutting edge? they are broken and crash too often:-(
thunderbird has no google calendar provider (while it had in f10) so it's
worse then in f10. there is a testing thunderbird-lightening which has no
corresponding thunderbird release (f11 was released on 9th juli:-)
on a simple on borad intel video card X/gnome crash daily.
and i could be list many other problems. so i really thing that's the worst
then ever release of fedora.
and tend to agree with dag that fedora is not suitable even for the
desktop/workstation world. and i can't say anything those ubuntu users who
said it's working in ububtu:-(
if rhel 6 will be released i'll push a new company policy that no one can
use fedora (it's so much problem for the users and the support that it's not
worth for it) even as a desktop os just centos 6.
a really angry fedora user.

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Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread David Boles
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Saturday 25 July 2009 06:11:30 gil...@altern.org wrote:
 jack craig wrote:
 Really, pausing for a few seconds still seems to me like the best
 option.
 The way out is easier than I thought but when a newbie comes to Linux
 and
 he's already afraid because everybody says that Fedora is for experts
 only, he might not look further and give up.
 no pain, no gain, ...
 and no market share.
 
 Market share has nothing specific to do with Fedora. Ubuntu should be distro 
 of 
 choice for newbies and market share gaining, not Fedora. If Ubuntu is also 
 configured not to have that two second pause in grub, you should ask *them* 
 to 
 fix it, since they have a lot of newbies who might get into trouble without 
 it.
 
 If a newbie tries Fedora and gets disappointed, the problem is not the 
 default 
 configuration choices of Fedora, but the user choice of the distro.
 
 There are different levels of user-friendlyness. Fedora is mainly targeting 
 users who are already devoted to Linux, so its default configuration tries to 
 be seasoned-user-friendly, not newbie-friendly. Better go whine on the Ubuntu 
 list for such defaults. Fedora is simply not the distro that should be used 
 for advertizing Linux to newbies and gaining potential market share.
 
 Being a Linux user since RH 6.2 days, I am quite happy with the default 
 config 
 of grub in Fedora, and I guess most Fedora users are also fine with it. Those 
 who are not are usually proficient enough to customize it themselves to meet 
 their needs.


I have followed this thread inspire of myself.  :-)

Each of you makes good points and offer good information. All of which
the OP refuses to take into consideration.

Plainly and simply said. (Puts on flame proof suit here).

Fedora has its place. Fedora is a distribution for the user that is
smarter that what they are doing. The user that can solve a little
problem. A user that, with some suggestions and pointers, can solve a
more difficult problem. A user that will, after trying these suggestion
and tips, see what could be a bug and reports it. A user that works with
the developer(s) to correct the bug. For themselves and for others.

(K)Ubuntu has its place. They are distribution for the 'install it and
forget it' crowd. They do all the setups and configuration and all of
the nanny hand holding. This 'install it and forget it' crowd then sits
in front of the monitor and 'surfs the web'. They play their mp3s. They
watch their videos.

These users, the 'install it and forget it' crowd, are the ones that
show up on this list with the 'this is crap' and 'my stuff
don't' work! rants and whines. Notice the excessive punctuation.  :-)

Or sometimes the write blog entries to this list. Like karl did. And
Karl 1.2 is doing today.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Alan Cox
 on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition anaconda
 crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just mdraid:-( and since
 preupgrade also crash with the same error there is no way to properly
 upgrade from the latest release to the next release! not even with nodmraid
 kernel option.

md /boot is definitely broken, has been for ages and the bugs don't seem
to have been touched. It's also obvious nobody bothered to actually test
that case because the error paths in the install code don't actually
work for that case either !

Fortunately the usual updating fedora-release, yum upgrade approach
worked on my boxes. I'd avoid preupgrade anyway it seems to like breaking
systems and leaving them half upgraded so you have to rescue the mess by
hand.

all of my system has a wrong openssl version

all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.

i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month
after the release! my system consist of 2059

In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just
updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were
basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.



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Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Very long emails are less likely to be read, especially when they're so
discursive. You seem to be more interested in topics such as market
share than actual technical content, which is the focus of this list. If
you have a technical question or comment, try to make it succintly.

Or maybe this is the wrong medium for what you want to say. Perhaps you
should try blogging as an alternative.

Just my 2 cents.

poc

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npviewer.bin

2009-07-25 Thread Randy Vice
What package contains npviewer.bin?  It's not behaving very well and it 
respawns after being killed. :-(


Thanks

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Re: npviewer.bin

2009-07-25 Thread Joachim Backes

Randy Vice wrote:
What package contains npviewer.bin?  It's not behaving very well and it 
respawns after being killed. :-(



yum whatprovides '*/npviewer.bin'


result: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin

rpm -qf /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin
 nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-6.fc11.i586


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Re: Emacs Cannot find Fonts

2009-07-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:19:01 -0700
Suvayu Ali wrote:

 Just do 'yum remove emacs' and then 'yum install emacs 
 --enablerepo=rawhide', you wont regret it. Everything is so awesome in 
 emacs 23 ... can't rave enough.

Oh God, sounds like I'll have another weekend of finding and
squashing helpful features when emacs 23 makes it to updates :-).

On the font problem, one thing that might provide a clue is to
run something like

strace -e trace=file emacs

and compare it with

strace -e trace=file emacs -fn whatever

You might be able to see where emacs is poking around differently
with the explicit font specifier.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:

  Fortunately the usual updating fedora-release, yum upgrade approach
  worked on my boxes. I'd avoid preupgrade anyway it seems to like breaking
  systems and leaving them half upgraded so you have to rescue the mess by
  hand.

 I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical
 Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.  I always
 do a fresh install, formatting the partition from the older install.
 This has the advantage of providing a backup in case the new Fedora
 doesn't work so well.  Eventually, when updates to the new Fedora fix
 the most annoying bugs, I switch to using it full time.


and it's a shame! it's not windows when we need to reinstall and reboot with
every install.
or if it's know to be broken then remove the option to upgrade.


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Miro 2.5 is out

2009-07-25 Thread oleksandr korneta

http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/07/announcing-miro-2-5/

when can we hope to see it in fedora 10?


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Re: npviewer.bin

2009-07-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
Randy Vice wrote:

 What package contains npviewer.bin?  It's not behaving very well and it 
 respawns after being killed. :-(

locate npviewer.bin will show you somethng like

/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin

the you can say

rpm -q -f /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin

and it will tell you:

nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-6.fc11.i586

But all it really means is that flash crashes a lot and takes
the npviewer.bin with it :-).

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Farkas Levente
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:

 all of my system has a wrong openssl version

 all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen
 preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason
 I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.


i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half upgrade then  it's
also the bug of the installer.


 i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month
 after the release! my system consist of 2059

 In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just
 updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were
 basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.


as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a few things then
it's also the bug of the installer.

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Re: acer one

2009-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 10:59 +0200, roland wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:43:52 +0200, Mikkel L. Ellertson  
 mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:
 
  roland wrote:
  I tried to do this, but he complains saying the stick is not bootable
  so I should use /sbin/parted
  Parted only allows to make a ext2 filesystem.
  How should I do this. Why does it work out of the box with you guys?
 
  First of all, parted will make many other file systems besides ext2.
  From the man page:
 
  mkfs partition fs-type
Make  a  filesystem  fs-type on partition. fs-type can be
one of fat16, fat32, ext2, linux-swap, or reiserfs.
 
  But I believe what they are asking you to do is make sure the boot
  flag is set on the partition.
 
 
 what should be the capacity of the stick?

I've been able to get live-iso to work with a 4 Gb USB key disk (even
with the DVD)

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Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread R. G. Newbury

R. G. Newbury wrote:
 
  It is the lack of documentation which makes Fedora (and Mandriva, and
  Ubuntu) an OS for experts only.
 
You forgot Windows, OS x, and a few more.

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Re: Hardware recommendations for a 64bit kvm server?

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 07/23/2009 02:16 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
 People,
 
 Suggestions on motherboards etc for running 2-4 virtual machines for
 general purpose uses (suppliers in Australia would be good!).
 
 Thanks,
 
 Phil.

I'm using Intel G45ID motherboards for 8 servers in a lab at work.
Checp, supports full virt (KVM) as well as Xen (we primarily use RHEL at
work, not Fedora), they seem to be *very* fast, and they were a snap to
set up.

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/DG45ID/DG45ID-overview.htm

We just happen to be running Intel E8500 (dual core, 3.16GHz)
processors, but quad core are available for this board.

We're running 8GB memory on each system.  The lab is *very* popular on
my team, the systems are quite snappy.

Total cost for each system, including a 2U case and power supply as well
as an extra GB NIC for bonding was around $800USD.  Very affordable.

Thomas

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich

 first of all i use linux since '94 so i've seen a few releases. 
Hm...

 there is no way to properly upgrade from the latest release to the next 
release! 
Since 94? yum upgrade.

 on system where anaconda do not crash f10 update's yum newer then on f11
 iso's so the installer do not upgrade yum! 
Sure. It is in continues development. On Fedora you must know what 
installation DVD is for.

 longer works. as the installer do not upgrade kernel-devel akmods not able
 to rebuild kernel module for nvidia and ati so X not able to start.
There are no fglrx for F11. Sad but true. Thise is what you must to know too. 
So, akmod is installed, but kmod can't be compiled. It is a real problem, it 
is exist, but no X with fglrx, but radeon(hd) or even vesa - all for you. Just 
edit (nano? vi?) /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

 but without networkmanager
system-config-network-tui is present on DVD. 

 all of my system has a wrong openssl version
How did you manage it?

 there was some python 2.5 abi problem. 
F11 have Python 2.6. You have your system partial updated. But it could be 
fixed.

 how can a system critical tool like yum depend on such a broken thing like
 python?
It just works.

 after i update by hand a few dozen of packages with rpm yum start to work.
Yes! I knew it! Partial update.

 after i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one
 month after the release! my system consist of 2059
 packages at the same time yum download 2069 packages to update! what the
 hell i doing??? why do i upgrade the system for a half days if i upgrade
 all of my packages. why do i need a dvd iso? this download is more then the
 whole iso!
OK. When Fedora prepare to releas mainterners freez package versions. They 
create iso's. But (suddenly) developers release a new version of there 
product. Will it be updated in Fedora DVD iso? Of cause, not. Then, developers 
of second package released it stuff, third, forth... Yum updated, KDE updated, 
DeviceKit updated, R updated. Opensource world is in development, continues 
development. In updates repo you can find newer packages, than presented on the 
moment of Fedora releas. So, it completly normal. I think, it is not just 
normal, it's greate!

 the sound no longer works!
And it is a problem.  It need to be resolved, I'm agree with you.

 and the firefox and thunderbird betas... 
Sorry. Don't use them.

 on a simple on borad intel video card X/gnome crash daily.
May be hardware problem?

 and i could be list many other problems.
Cindly ask you to do it. This could help to develop Fedora, make it better 
with future releases.

 and tend to agree with dag that fedora is not suitable even for the
 desktop/workstation world. 
Dag is wrong. Sorry, Dag.

 and i can't say anything those ubuntu users who
 said it's working in ububtu:-(
Just look at Ubuntu bagzilla.

 if rhel 6 will be released i'll push a new company policy 
Hm... sometimes rhel _will_ release. You can begin to prepare a draft of that 
policy.

 a really angry fedora user.
Happy Fedora user :)

And my experience. Have upgraded couple copms from 10 to 11, couple from 9 to 
11 (yes, in documentation written it is not supported at all) and nothing 
suprising occurs. Sound playing, video showing, Konqueror prowl the Internet 
oceans.

The only one thing: plymouth start theme in F10 is better in my opinion then 
in F11 one.

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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich

  I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical
  Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.  I always
  do a fresh install, formatting the partition from the older install.
  This has the advantage of providing a backup in case the new Fedora
  doesn't work so well.  Eventually, when updates to the new Fedora fix
  the most annoying bugs, I switch to using it full time.

 and it's a shame! it's not windows when we need to reinstall and reboot
 with every install.
 or if it's know to be broken then remove the option to upgrade.

It must be in fedora-devel-list, not here. Please, not mix them.
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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:18:47 -0400
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:

 Because the ls never completes and eventually bombs out with a too
 many files error.  So, though I am assuming, it's not really an
 assumption.  :)

for i in *; do echo $i; done

For subdirectories:

for i in */*; do echo $i; done

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 10:37 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:18:47 -0400
 Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
 
  Because the ls never completes and eventually bombs out with a too
  many files error.  So, though I am assuming, it's not really an
  assumption.  :)
 
 for i in *; do echo $i; done
 
 For subdirectories:
 
 for i in */*; do echo $i; done

What's wrong with

echo *

and

echo */*

?

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Re: active network connection stops working...

2009-07-25 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-07-25 10:19:52, Jim wrote:
 On 07/24/2009 04:35 PM, charles zeitler wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Rick Sewillrsew...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  You indicated there is no DNS resolution?
  What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file please?
 
   
  it is currently blank.
 
 
  Can you ping an IP address if you do not use DNS resolution?
 
  Can you ping www.google.com?
  Can you ping 209.85.225.99?
 
   
  i successfully pinged yahoo at 69.147.76.15
 
 
  Am I correct in assuming you have never been able to surf the
  Internet through this active network connection?  My previous
  comments assumed you could surf the Internet, but your connection
  eventually failed.
   
  my connection worked initially, and for some time, then suddenly 
  dns stopped working.
 
 
 
 
 see if vou can ping linuxtoday.com, if it's a DNS problem you won't 
 be able to connect to server.  Fedora is also having a IPV6 problem, 
 it's looking for IPV6 instead of IPV4.

He has no nameservers listed, so unless he is running a local 
nameserver (bind, etc.) he can't resolve any names.  See `man 
resolv.conf`, the second paragraph and the nameserver section.

This is (most likely) happening when his DHCP lease is renewed and 
something doesn't work.  There might be a log (perhaps
/var/log/messages) where PPP mentions such things.

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-07-25 10:18:47, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  Why assume? Why not just look at how many there are?
 
 Because the ls never completes and eventually bombs out with a too
 many files error.  So, though I am assuming, it's not really an
 assumption.  :)

Perhaps it would help to not sort the output:

ls -U | wc

should give the number of files without needing to sort them.

In any case, the directories large size (in the OP) shows that at least 
at one time they had a large number of files.  A `rm -rf` command might 
take a while to complete if they still do.

If deleting them with `rm -rf` doesn't work and the `find` approach is 
too slow, it might help to delete them in batches:

find . -type f -exec rm -f '{}' +

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Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:26:51 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 What's wrong with
 
 echo *
 
 and
 
 echo */*


1. Because the ls never completes and eventually bombs out 

2. The entire directory listing shows up on one single long line with a
simple echo * command.

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Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 09:46 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 I have three very different systems where PA has worked 
 perfectly out-of-the-box.

Same here.

   I'm not denying that some people have problems, but 
 going by my experience there must be many that don't.

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Re: no hardware acceleration?

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, john wendel wrote:

Not true. Software rendering refers to the display of 3D objects in OpenGL. 
Unless you have a very strange setup, mplayer won't be using OpenGL to 
display video data.


I've got a box with a geforce 5200 LE, and it displays video just fine if I 
use the evil Nvidia driver. The nouveau driver (which you probably have) 
isn't quite ready for prime time.


I get the driver from the Nvidia website, but it can also be yummed from the 
rpmfusion-nonfree repo.


I used yum.
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Re: update for thunderbird on f11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mail Lists
On 07/24/2009 12:24 AM, g wrote:
 Mail Llists wrote:
 
 i follow support-thunderbird list and i do hate to say it, but there are a lot
 of bugs that need to be fix.
 


 I follow tb devel too - and b3 is way less buggy than b2 - and way
better than tb 2.x. Yes there are still some issues ... it is s/w.

 I installed the one in koji and it is working fine.

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