Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-03 Thread Jiri Moskovcak

On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:39:07 +0100, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:

When the debuginfo package of a particular binary is
installed, then the symbols are loaded whenever the binary is loaded or
are the symbols only considered by tools like gdb and so on?


The latter.

Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only copies the
needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT people.


Jan



Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to 
/var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a 
planned feature.


Jirka
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need help in contributing to se-linux policy development

2010-01-03 Thread sai ganesh
hi,
my name is sai. i am a
fedora-ambassadorhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:ganesai.i
want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am  a Redhat
certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of
se-linux policies.how can i contribute ?
whom should i contact?

i have already tried contacting the  owners of the se-linux packages.i
didn't get any response.

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How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?

2010-01-03 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi,

Sometime in the past few weeks I've ended up as the package owner for
emacs, without actually requesting it. I've previously been a
co-maintainer (i.e. watchbugzilla, watchcommits, commit, approveacls),
but haven't requested package ownership at any point, so I'm wondering
what turn of events brought this about, and whether it's a bug with
the pkgdb. If a package is orphaned by its owner, does the next person
with commit access become the package owner or something like that? If
so, I think that needs a bit more thinking. I'm not really grumbling
about become the package owner (though I'm not sure I have enough
knowledge of emacs internals to take on that role), though I am
genuinely confused as to how this happened. Unfortunately the emacs
package does seem to get bumped around various RH employees - it'd be
nice if there was a bit more communication about this when it happens.

Cheers,
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Re: need help in contributing to se-linux policy development

2010-01-03 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/3 sai ganesh gane...@fedoraproject.org:
 hi,
     my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the
 development of se-linux policies.i am  a Redhat certified se-linux policy
 administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i
 contribute ?
 whom should i contact?

 i have already tried contacting the  owners of the se-linux packages.i
 didn't get any response.


Perhaps you'd be better off sending a mail to the fedora-selinux-list:

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list

Jonathan.

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Re: installing 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system (nouveau issue?)

2010-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:47:19PM +, David Woodhouse wrote:
Obviously that doesn't count for the nVidia binary module, which doesn't
exist for ppc64. And nouveau is relatively new and not currently being
used in Fedora/PPC64 so I'm prepared to believe that their 'work in
progress' API still has some issues in that area, as you suggest.

Nouveau works fine with Fedora 12 for ppc64.  I use it on an iMac
G5 with an nVidia card for basic 2d output.  I believe it also
worked in F11.

josh

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Re: How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?

2010-01-03 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/3 Karel Klic kk...@redhat.com:
 Hi Jonathan,

 you became the owner in the pkgdb when Daniel Novotny and I agreed to
 transfer the package ownership to me. We discovered that the next person
 with commit access become the owner when a package is orphaned, and the
 package owner cannot be changed in pkgdb. I asked about the solution on IRC,
 and when I got no answer I postponed it. From my point of view it is not
 important who is the owner when I can fix bugs and commit changes.

 I apologize to you for not sending an email about the change, that would
 have been be the right thing.

 Nonetheless, I am also interested in how to change the owner to certain
 person from the list of package maintainers.

Hi Karel,

Aha - thanks for explaining what happened. I just tried releasing
package ownership using the pkgdb web interface, but that doesn't seem
to work... will continue to investigate.

J.

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Re: How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?

2010-01-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:53:26 +0100,
  Karel Klic kk...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Nonetheless, I am also interested in how to change the owner to
 certain person from the list of package maintainers.

I think the right way to fix this is to file a ticket with infrastructure.

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Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-03 Thread Milos Jakubicek

On 3.1.2010 13:37, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:

On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:39:07 +0100, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:

When the debuginfo package of a particular binary is
installed, then the symbols are loaded whenever the binary is loaded or
are the symbols only considered by tools like gdb and so on?


The latter.

Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only
copies the
needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT
people.


Jan



Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to
/var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a
planned feature.


If you will indeed implement this, please let the users choose whether 
they want the .debug files (or whatever you extract) to be removed or 
kept forever. I'm really happy with the current situation and do not 
want to wait until ABRT downloads the debuginfo packages every time again.


Thanks,
Milos

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Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-03 Thread Jud Craft
That was definitely informative.  Thanks for the explanations.

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Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-03 Thread James Antill
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 13:37 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
 On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
  Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only copies 
  the
  needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT people.
 
 Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to 
 /var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a 
 planned feature.

 Why do you do this?

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[Bug 551317] [te_IN] A dash becomes a long empty space.

2010-01-03 Thread bugzilla
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how can I capture my desktop (video)??

2010-01-03 Thread Adel ESSAFI
http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php



Hi list,
I want to make capture for my desktop. xvidcap is a good tool but it is not
suitable for capturing all the screen.
Have you any idea about the tool that was used to capture the video in the
link above?

Thanks

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Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??

2010-01-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Adel ESSAFI wrote:
 http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php



 Hi list,
 I want to make capture for my desktop. xvidcap is a good tool but it
 is not suitable for capturing all the screen.
 Have you any idea about the tool that was used to capture the video in
 the link above?
recordmydesktop is in Fedora extras

Why not give that a try.




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Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??

2010-01-03 Thread Felix Schwarz


Am 03.01.2010 09:15, schrieb Adel ESSAFI:

I want to make capture for my desktop.


What about istanbul? (install from updates-testing, stable version is unusable 
due to bug 543278)


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Re: whence RPCBIND_ARGS?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Cameron Simpson wrote:

 On 02Jan2010 14:47, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
 |   i'm tracing the execution of rpcbind on my f12 system, and in the
 | common code, i read:
 |
 | prog=rpcbind
 | [ -f /etc/sysconfig/$prog ]  . /etc/sysconfig/$prog
 |
 | while in the start() function, there is:
 |
 | daemon $prog $RPCBIND_ARGS $1
 |
 |   i'm curious about this since:
 |
 | 1) there's no apparent documentation for setting/using $RPCBIND_ARGS

 man rpcbind describes a heap of options. Clearly you can put any of
 them into RPCBIND_ARGS.

 | 2) there's no /etc/sysconfig/rpcbind file for initial config

 A pity. There really ought to be a stub file with an empty
 RPCBIND_ARGS= assignment. And a comment.

 | 3) there's no mention of RPCBIND_ARGS in the rpcbind man page

 Of course not. It's an artifact of the f12 startup scripts, not the
 rpcbind daemon itself.

 |   admittedly, that doesn't make any of this *wrong*, it just seems
 | that $RPCBIND_ARGS is kind of hanging out there, without anyone making
 | an effort to explain what might be done with it or why it would be
 | useful.  thoughts?

 Like all the /etc/sysconfig files, you can put something like:

  RPCBIND_ARGS=-h some.local.lan.address

 or the like to start rpcbind with particular arguments.

  i'm not suggesting there's anything *wrong* with the current
situation, just that since /etc/init.d/rpcbind explicitly refers to
RPCBIND_ARGS, it would have been handy to have mentioned it somewhere
so users might be able to take advantage of it.

  personally, i like your suggestion 2) above -- have a no-op
/etc/sysconfig/rpcbind file with at least a few comments and sample
variable settings.

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any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the
section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me.
could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how
indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros?

  so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i
wouldn't expect to.  obviously, the fundamental files are going to be
the same.

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Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?

2010-01-03 Thread Hiisi
2010/1/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:

  i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the
 section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me.
 could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how
 indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros?

  so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i
 wouldn't expect to.  obviously, the fundamental files are going to be
 the same.

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any Fedora I've ever seen. It's strange and ugly. It has different
folder structure and there's no yum (only some package manager called
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- I've persuaded my brother to install CentOS on it.
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Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-03 Thread Alan Cox
 way through the user account preferences to turn this feature OFF. Various 
 posts on the 'net claim this violates the documented way DNS look ups work. 

It is

 The suggestion is to either turn it off if you can, which may involve a 
 phone call to your ISP, if not then LOUDLY complain about it screwing up you 
 network.

Oh and one other if you are particularly evil. If they are redirecting
stuff which contains trademarks you can let the trademark owners know
their marks are being used this way 8)

Fortunately you can also run your own nameserver which generally works
around the ISP.

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running *only* NFSv4 on f12 produces rpc.mountd error

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  i'm currently still messing with various bits of NFS on f12, and
i wanted to see if i could properly run *only* NFSv4 (that is, no
support for any earlier version of NFS), so some questions.

  first, is there a short way to examine what versions are supported
by a running nfsd?  i'm *guessing* that i can see that via rpcinfo
-p:

...
132   tcp   2049  nfs
133   tcp   2049  nfs
134   tcp   2049  nfs
132   udp   2049  nfs
133   udp   2049  nfs
134   udp   2049  nfs
...

  is that what i'm being shown above?  that i currently have support
for versions 2, 3 and 4?is there no simpler way to query a running
nfsd for that info?

  but here's where it gets trickier.  from here (which i assume is
relevant):

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html

i'm told that, under NFSv4, there is no need for any of rpc.mountd,
rpc.lockd or rpc.statd (as i read it, all this functionality has been
moved into the kernel with NFSv4).

  so i can see how to disable support for all earlier versions of nfs
in /etc/sysconfig/nfs:

#
# Define which protocol versions mountd
# will advertise. The values are no or yes
# with yes being the default
#MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
#MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
#MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no
...

  so i uncomment all those lines to (allegedly) disable all earlier
version support and:

# service nfs restart
Shutting down NFS mountd:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS services:[  OK  ]
Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help]
[-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind]
[-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
[-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
[-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
[-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
[-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
   [FAILED]
#

  ok, what just happened there?  am i not allowed to do what i just
tried?  and if i explicitly try to run *only* NFSv4, why is rpc.mountd
even being invoked?  is there something else i need to be doing here?


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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500
Mail Llists wrote:

   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
 the vm ?

The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
boot f11, that would be the way to go.

The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
from the disk image and maybe it will be back.

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Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?

2010-01-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
   i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the
 section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me.
 could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how
 indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros?

   so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i
 wouldn't expect to.  obviously, the fundamental files are going to be
 the same.
   
I haven't use suse in quite some time.  Are you asking about SLES (which
is the equivalent of RHEL) or openSUSE which is more akin to Fedora,
AFAIK? 

In any event, if I were doing what I think you're doing I would download
either the openSUSE DVD or the openSUSE live CD's and try it myself in a
Virtual Machine.  I mean, who better to know what exact comparisons I'm
looking for?

As I said, I've not used suse in quite a while.  But, your question as
well as the post about firefox/kde integration has prompted me to start
downloading the DVD to give it a try.  I think it is safe to say that
Fedora/RH place less emphasis on KDE than suse does.  So, being a KDE
leaning person it would be worth the time to check it out.

Of course, just like trying any other distro there will be differences. 
I believe suse uses yast as their package manger.  But, at least it is
rpm based and I'm used to the warts of that system. 

Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will.  Probably
try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system.  Sounds like
a nice challenge.



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Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?

2010-01-03 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:08:52 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:


 I have been using the remind program for years. It takes input in text
 files and can generate task lists, text calendars for email, or HTML
 calendars to your web size. It handles things like first tuesday after
 the first monday, the bizarre rules about when US holidays have been
 moved to make three day weekend and remove historical significance, and
 the like.
 
 Also does differences, so you can print not only the birthday of kids
 but their age this year, anniversaries, last friday in the quarter,
 Easter, whatever. And you can generate documentation or actually execute
 programs, which is also handy.
 

Very nice indeed. 

Also dayplanner may be worth a try. Not as sophisticated as remind (can't 
skip over holidays, doesn't seem to be able to take an action upon an 
event, etc.) but runs as a daemon, so it reduces desktop clutter.


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Sansa mp3 player support

2010-01-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a Sansa Connect player that has a number of the setup functions 
disabled (for example the wifi is turned off).  I cannot get it into the 
mode where it appears as a USB drive to non-M$ systems that have itunes 
installed on it.


I just installed FC12 on this notebook.  When I plug the Sansa player 
in, it displays messages about geting Ablum and song info and then comes 
up in its regular Music Library.  On my FC12 system, I cannot find any 
mounted device (like in /media) and RythmBox (which was running at the 
time) does not show any of the songs on the player.


help?


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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?
 
 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
.xml file stored somewhere ?

 I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful

 
 The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
 is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
 it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
 then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
 the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
 from the disk image and maybe it will be back.
 

 Yeh ok .. thanks for your help

 gene

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Re: Sansa mp3 player support

2010-01-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Got it working!!!

There was a dialog about what to open for the device behind all my other 
open apps.  So I just selected Nautilus.


On 01/03/2010 10:27 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I have a Sansa Connect player that has a number of the setup functions 
disabled (for example the wifi is turned off).  I cannot get it into 
the mode where it appears as a USB drive to non-M$ systems that have 
itunes installed on it.


I just installed FC12 on this notebook.  When I plug the Sansa player 
in, it displays messages about geting Ablum and song info and then 
comes up in its regular Music Library.  On my FC12 system, I cannot 
find any mounted device (like in /media) and RythmBox (which was 
running at the time) does not show any of the songs on the player.


help?




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Fedora 12 Second Monitor issue

2010-01-03 Thread John Clark
Hey everyone, I may just not be  seeing this topic and if so I am sorry. I
just started running Fedora 12 with two monitors. The main display is fine,
but my second display will not give me more than 800X600 resolution. It is a
HP vs19 LCD, and I know it is capable of more. Is there any solution to
this?
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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
Mail Lists wrote:

   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
that way :-).

If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

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Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the
  section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me.
  could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how
  indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros?
 
so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i
  wouldn't expect to.  obviously, the fundamental files are going to be
  the same.
 
 I haven't use suse in quite some time.  Are you asking about SLES
 (which is the equivalent of RHEL) or openSUSE which is more akin to
 Fedora, AFAIK?

  technically, SLES 11, but i have to imagine that there's not going
to be a lot of difference between the two in terms of NFS.

 Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will.
 Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system.
 Sounds like a nice challenge.

  i'm currently digging through the docs and scripts, and my current
challenge is to see what it takes to set up simple NFS on f12 using
*only* nfsv4 with no earlier version compatibility.  so far, still a
bug or two in the system.

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Re: Fedora 11/12 kernels as xen domU

2010-01-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:19:40AM +1100, Norman Gaywood wrote:
 Is anyone having any stability with the fedora kernels running as a Xen
 DomU. Dom0 is a Centos 5.4 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5xen kernel.
 
 These fedora kernels seem to lockup (processes get stuck in D state)
 whenever put under any load:
 
 kernel-2.6.30.10-105.fc11.x86_64
 kernel-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64
 kernel-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
 
 Yes, I tried a fedora 11 kernel on a fedora 12 system. This is the most
 stable for me.
 
 Here are some bugzilla entries (one posted by me) that point to this
 problem:
 
 kernel 2.6.31 processes lock up in D state
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550724
 
 FC12 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 hangs under heavy disk I/O
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551552
 

I know Jeremy is away on vacation atm, but hopefully he can comment
about these when he gets back. 

Jeremy: Have you seen this kind of domU problem reports earlier ?

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
 Mail Lists wrote:
 
   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?
 
 Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
 where :-). 

  Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its
buried in the registry somewhere.


If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
 be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
 that way :-).

 I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's.

 
 If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
 no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
 definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
 the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
 have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
 docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

  Ug.
 

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Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??

2010-01-03 Thread Martin Airs
On 01/03/2010 09:13 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
 
 Am 03.01.2010 09:15, schrieb Adel ESSAFI:
 I want to make capture for my desktop.
 
 What about istanbul? (install from updates-testing, stable version is
 unusable due to bug 543278)
 
 fs
 
I personaly use ffmpeg, heres the command i use...

ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x1024 -r 15 -b 5000k -i :0.0 -s 480x360 -r 15
-b 500k out.flv

-s 1280x1024 is my desktop size

-r 15 is 15 fps

-b 5000k is the input quality, i use a nice high number for good quality

-s 480x360 is the final size of the output video

the second -r 15 is the final fps of the output video

the second -b 500k is the output quality, this saves me converting it
later, you could just use...

ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x1024 -r 15 -b 5000k -i :0.0 out.flv

but the output would be huge but really good quality, so you could then
resize it with...

ffmpeg -i out.flv -s 480x360 -r15 -b 500k resized.flv

the top example does both these in 1 command

i use .flv as the output so i can put it my website, you can just change
out.flv to out.mpg or out.ogv or out.avi and ffmpeg will automatically
encode it in that format

Martin



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Re: Fedora 12 Second Monitor issue

2010-01-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 01/03/2010 10:46 AM, John Clark wrote:
Hey everyone, I may just not be  seeing this topic and if so I am 
sorry. I just started running Fedora 12 with two monitors. The main 
display is fine, but my second display will not give me more than 
800X600 resolution. It is a HP vs19 LCD, and I know it is capable of 
more. Is there any solution to this? 


similar to my bug report:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551920


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Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the
  section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me.
  could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how
  indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros?
 
so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and
  i wouldn't expect to.  obviously, the fundamental files are going
  to be the same.

... snip ...

 Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will.
 Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system.
 Sounds like a nice challenge.

  ok, a few questions/observations regarding nfsv4, if i might.  as i
mentioned in an earlier post, i'm working off of this:

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html

and seeing what it would take to set up a simple NFS configuration on
fedora 12 that uses *nothing* but nfsv4.  so feel free to comment on
the following suppositions:

* NFSv4 appears to be a stable technology that should work.  (there is
an NFS 4.1 that is labelled as experimental, but am i correct in
assuming that NFSv4 is supposed to work properly?)

* i did notice that mounting via NFSv4 requires the -t nfs4 mount
option, not just -t nfs.  is that actually a *requirement*?  is the
mount command not smart enough to figure that out?

* as i read it, nfsv4 no longer requires portmapper, rpc.mountd,
rpc.lockd or rpc.statd, which inspires the question -- if you're
running *exclusively* NFSv4, is there any reason to even *start* those
last three daemons?

  i ask since i'm looking at the startup script /etc/init.d/nfs, and
the start argument is processed thusly:

# See how we were called.
case $1 in
  start)

# Check that networking is up.
[ ${NETWORKING} != yes ]  exit 6

[ -x /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd ] || exit 5
[ -x /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd ] || exit 5
[ -x /usr/sbin/exportfs ] || exit 5
... snip ...

  the problem, of course, is that if you're running exclusively NFSv4,
what's the point of checking for the existence of /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
if you have no need to run it?   and that same startup sequence
invokes rpc.mountd later, again unnecessarily.


 and as i mentioned in an earlier
posting, if i make this change to /etc/sysconfig/nfs:

MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no

then when i run service nfs restart, i get:

# service nfs restart
Shutting down NFS mountd:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS services:[  OK  ]
Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help]
[-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind]
[-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
[-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
[-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
[-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
[-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
   [FAILED]
#

  debugging the call to start rpc.mountd shows it being invoked with
the following args:

--no-nfs-version 1 --no-nfs-version 2 --no-nfs-version 3

which i would have *thought* is what i wanted to see.  apparently not.

  in conclusion, what capability *should* i expect from NFSv4 on
fedora 12?  can't i even *start* it without supporting earlier
versions?

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wine dxdiag - shows nothing

2010-01-03 Thread AlannY
Hi there.

Recently, I've used Gentoo and runs Wine for games on it. But now, I switched 
to Fedora 12 x86_64.

I've installed wine successfuly:

%# yum instal wine.i686

After that, I've installed directx9 and gecko with winetricks script.

Set up wine is OK:

%# winecfg

Some win-programs already works.

Then, I need to test graphics:

%# wine dxdiag

But, this command shows nothing. Exit code ($?) is 0 (which means everything 
ok).

What to do? I cannot play games with wine-directx on Fedora, but can on Gentoo.
I've fell in love with Fedora and don't want to switch back.

P.S. Are you playing win-games in Fedora?

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Re: random lockups when using Firefox

2010-01-03 Thread Julian C. Dunn
On 01/03/2010 12:41 AM, Hiisi wrote:

 2010/1/3 Julian C. Dunn li...@aquezada.com:
 Hi,

 I have a F12 box that periodically locks up solid when visiting certain
 Flash-based sites in Firefox. There are usually no odd messages found in
 /var/log/messages to indicate what went wrong, except a couple of days
 ago, after a crash, I found this:

 Dec 29 13:01:50 jupiter kernel: [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR*
 --SNIP--

 Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this?
 
 Do you have desktop effects enabled?

Nope, I don't.

- Julian

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graphical login screen

2010-01-03 Thread Ralph Blach
On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a 
graphical login screen,  How do I change the users showed on the screen,

I see users, but no root,

I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root.

Thanks

Chip

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Re: graphical login screen

2010-01-03 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-03 14:49:14, Ralph Blach wrote:
 On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a 
 graphical login screen,  How do I change the users showed on the
 screen, I see users, but no root,
 
 I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course
 root.

It would be foolish to log in graphically as root.  Don't do it.  Log 
in in text mode as root by switching to a different Virtual Terminal 
with Ctrl-Shift-F2 (F1 to F6, F7 or sometimes F1 is the X session).  
From a graphical login, either use the normal graphical tools and 
authenticate from time to time, or open a terminal and `su -` to become 
root there.

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Re: graphical login screen

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 02:49 PM, Ralph Blach wrote:
 On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a
 graphical login screen,  How do I change the users showed on the screen,
 I see users, but no root,
 
 I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root.
 
 
 I believe you can have them all on or turn them all off (except
'other') but cannot just show one user.

 As for root - I'll let others answer - see past long threads - it was
turned off intentionally but there is a way to allow root to
gracphically login if you really want it. (Tho why you'd ever need this
is beyond me. I've used linux for many many years, and never once needed
a graphical root login.

 If you want the control you seek - you may want to try kdm instead of
gdm. You can still use gnome desktop with kdm.


  I am not recommending this one way or another - I am an ex kde user.
kde  was so wonderfully configurable ... but somehow they shot
themselves in the foot and lost a huge number of users alng the way and
seem to be struggling to regain their user base.  Even Linus himself
switched to Gnome .. after criticizing gnome for its lack of
configurabilty for a few years ..
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9126619/Q_A_Linux_founder_Linus_Torvalds_talks_about_open_source_identity?taxonomyName=Software

 Good luck ..

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KDE 4.3.4 global keyboard shortcuts not saving

2010-01-03 Thread slamp slamp
I changed the Show Menu for the Plasma Workspace to META-W and it only
works during the session but when I logout and login, my changes does
not save.

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Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
Media Center support for Fedora is currently really lacking when
compared to Ubuntu, so when I saw announcement of new Media Center
called Enna based on Mplayer I hope that it comes to a Fedora
repository near me ;)

Read more about it here:
http://gxben.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/first-public-enna-0-4-0-release/
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Nzg1NA

ps. I would love to also see XBMC in Fedora repositories...

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Re: random lockups when using Firefox

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:40:32 -0500
Julian C. Dunn wrote:

  Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this?  
  
  Do you have desktop effects enabled?  
 
 Nope, I don't.

There are certainly radeon bugs out there. For instance:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387

You might want to check yout /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
file from the crash to see if there is a similar
backtrace in there to the on in the above bugzilla.

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Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-03 Thread Alessandro Boggiano
 Yes, I tried! But I can't find anything in it!

 Just blame this on my age. I thought I understood what you wanted to do
 in your original post. Now I am clueless.
 What do you mean by the position of the Gnome default directories?
ate/MailingListGuidelines

Blame on your age, but on my English as well! ;)

I'd like to change the destination of the default GNOME directories :
the directories like Videos,Music, Documents.. ( I'm using GNOME
in Italian, so
the original name, maybe, are a little different).
Usually their definition is in the file ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and
the file is there!
Here a couple of lines:
[snip]
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/Scrivania
XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/Musica
[snip]

But if I change the values, for example:
XDG_MUSIC_DIR=/Dati/Mp3

The change is not detected, even after a logout.

Maybe I could use sym links, but,IMHO, is not the clean answer!

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Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread david walcroft

Hi,
I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.

I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or 
shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen.
and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access 
/usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun 
from my backup and logout/login with no result.
An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my 
usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp 
-r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was 
over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system.
I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be 
appreciated.


david

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Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-03 Thread Alessandro Boggiano

 change /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf to enabled=False
 Then I deleted the Videos, Pictures, Music, Documents, Public, etc,
 which I do not want in the first place.

Thanks Henk,
but this is not what I want! I'd like to have them, but with the right values!
Maybe, I could disable, delete them, and using bookmarks, but it's
like a workaround!

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Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-03 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:05 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
[]
 If you want to pay for Support, then something like here:
 
 http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email
 
 (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company)


Do they support Alpine?? 

Several million people at last count (I for one) still consider 
it the only mailer worth installing. I always get rid of any others -- 
especially any form of webmail, which I happen to detest with a passion. 

Rackspace seems to take webmail for granted, though -- always and 
only webmail. 

They do say at one point ... or any other POP/IMAP client. But 
it doesn't sound very convincing in context.

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Re: Nut 0 vs F10 winner

2010-01-03 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote:

 this is fun of working to different threads of near same topic from same
 person.

 Sorry about that, if you were handy I'd buy you a beer  see if we can get 
 confused together. :)

scotch and water, or an aggravation. [that is an actual drink]

 what is more fun is similar topics from 2 different people. ;)

 Now that I think begins to have the flavor of a bug.

not always. sometimes it is 2 people going about the same wrong way. :)


 I did find a gui that sorta works, knutclient-0.9.5.tar.gz.  Its not 100% but 
 well enough to see if everything is healthy.

you should have them in repo. what i pulled to get file list is for f-12,
but it should be in f-10 and f-11.

btw, what version are you using?


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Re: Need usb troubleshoting tool

2010-01-03 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote:

 Attached.

well, it was really for you to see. anyway, a file of name '*.cgi' is for
use in a web browser, and not a true command line executable. even tho it
was found by 'locate stat|grep bin/'.

my bad for not explaining it mo' betta than,

 you do not run a '.cgi' from a shell. run man 8 upsstats.cgi to see what
 it is for.

'man' should have explained it for you. i do not have this man page so i can
not run it to see what it says. :(

 All from tarballs since the rpms are too old to deal with this 2+ year old
 ups, with paths corrected well enough it now runs, except for a fail report
 from upsdrvctl when starting the init.d/ups script, which works, but reports
 a FAIL.  And it was configured with all optional pieces, built and installed.

even with ups being 2+ years old, you should be able to pull what you need
and use it in a current version. or is this what you did? not sure from above.

primarily what you would need is the communications that are used to receive
and send to ups, so they should work.


also, please excuse my delay in replying. i have been cleaning up and rebuild
my archive drive so i can get things restored.

what is taken so long is that i made changes to how i do archiving, and i am
trying to clean up duped files and directories that have been moved around
and even renamed. i need a good dupe file finder.


later.

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Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-03 Thread Sam Sharpe
2010/1/3 BeartoothHOS bearto...@comcast.net:
 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:05 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
        []
 If you want to pay for Support, then something like here:

     http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email

 (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company)

        Do they support Alpine??

It supports POP3 and IMAP, so I can't see why not.

        Several million people at last count (I for one) still consider
 it the only mailer worth installing. I always get rid of any others --
 especially any form of webmail, which I happen to detest with a passion.

        Rackspace seems to take webmail for granted, though -- always and
 only webmail.

        They do say at one point ... or any other POP/IMAP client. But
 it doesn't sound very convincing in context.

Considering that one of Mailtrust's (the Rackspace Division that does
this) employees is the lead developer of Dovecot, I would expect it to
work.
http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/blog/2009/02/creator_of_dovecot_joins_mailt/

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Re: Wrong page format Avery A4 labels. [SOLVED]

2010-01-03 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 30/12/09 00:54, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

My environment is OpenOffice 3.1.1 on Linux, Fedora 12.

The scenario is the following:

1. File - New - Labels

2. Select Brand: Avery A4
and Type: L7160
Press New Document

3. Format - Page

4. As you may see the page format is set to User which has a geometry
different from A4. If the final labels are printed with page format
User they come out wrongly. If, however, the page format is changed to
A4, printing is correct.

This happens every time I make new labels, Sometimes I forget to set the
page format to A4 and consequently ruin a whole bunch of labels. I bet
there must be a way to change this silly default but I haven't been able
to find how. Maybe it's a bug. Who knows?

Just to let you all know that the problem seems to be printer related. On my HP 
LaserJet 2200 the label sheets print wrongly as mentioned above. But when I 
print using my colour printer HP Photosmart 8450 they print correctly.


Thanks to Peter Hillier-Brook who somehow forced me into trying this other 
printer.

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au:
 Hi,
 I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
 situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.

Dying hard drive? Bad installation media?

-c

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Re: Wrong page format Avery A4 labels. [SOLVED]

2010-01-03 Thread Randy Yates
Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com writes:

 On 30/12/09 00:54, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 My environment is OpenOffice 3.1.1 on Linux, Fedora 12.

 The scenario is the following:

 1. File - New - Labels

 2. Select Brand: Avery A4
 and Type: L7160
 Press New Document

 3. Format - Page

 4. As you may see the page format is set to User which has a geometry
 different from A4. If the final labels are printed with page format
 User they come out wrongly. If, however, the page format is changed to
 A4, printing is correct.

 This happens every time I make new labels, Sometimes I forget to set the
 page format to A4 and consequently ruin a whole bunch of labels. I bet
 there must be a way to change this silly default but I haven't been able
 to find how. Maybe it's a bug. Who knows?

 Just to let you all know that the problem seems to be printer
 related. On my HP LaserJet 2200 the label sheets print wrongly as
 mentioned above. But when I print using my colour printer HP
 Photosmart 8450 they print correctly.

FWIW, we've been using an HP Photosmart 8450 for about 2 months and
really like it. It works well with Fedora.
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Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
I have mirrors of several repositories a 1TB hardware raid array mounted
as /pub on a RHEL54 server. I want to locally export that to several F12
laptops and desktop machines on a gigabit home network using nfs4. I'm
having trouble getting F12 nfs4 clients to mount the exported directory
on the RHEL54 server. The error I'm getting on the F12 client is:


# mount -v -t nfs4 -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr lion:/pub 
/lion
mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sun Jan  3 17:16:25 2010
mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 
'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.2,clientaddr=192.168.1.7'
mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted
mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted


Local details:
RHEL54 server 'lion' = 192.168.1.2
/etc/exports = *(rw), owned by root, permissions 644
F12 laptop 'tiger' = 192.168.1.7

The server looks fine:


# service nfs restart
Shutting down NFS mountd:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS services:[  OK  ]
Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd:   [  OK  ]


The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:

# service nfs restart
Shutting down NFS mountd:  [FAILED]
Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED]
Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] 
[-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind]
[-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
[-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
[-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
[-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
[-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
   [FAILED]


About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using
nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to
be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd.

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Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 22:53 -0500, KC8LDO wrote:
 Speaking about bogus resolvers, having the ISP's mess with DNS, is
 just the start of it. Wait until they get around to forcing people to
 install custom TCP/IP stacks that ONLY will work on their network as a
 means to monitor and control traffic. There is nothing the FCC has
 done that excludes this option.

The FCC has no control whatsoever over Internet protocols, particularly
outside the USA.

poc

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gthumb problems

2010-01-03 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I have a Nikon D70s camera.  I also have an external USB smart card reader

Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0b97:7762 O2 Micro, Inc. Oz776 SmartCard Reader

When I plug the 4GB SanDisk from my Nikon into the card reader it mounts the
disk and puts an icon on my desktop.  When I double click on the icon it
brings up a file browser.  It identifies the contents as being digital
photos and there is a button on the file browser to start the gthumb photo
import tool.  Clicking on this button does not bring up gthumb.   When I
look in my .xsession-errors file I find the following:

(nautilus:2163): Nautilus-GDU-WARNING **: unable to query info: The
specified location is not supported

handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged')
handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged')
handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged')
handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged')
D70S; exec gthumb --import-photos: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking
for matching `'
D70S; exec gthumb --import-photos: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end
of file

The same problem occurs if I attach the camera directly to the PC.  The
actual mount point is

/media/NIKON D70S

Note the space between the NIKON and the D70S.  It looks like the file
browser is choking on the space since it is showing D70S rather than NIKON
D70S.

This all worked fine under F11.

Once the device is mounted I can run gthumb manually on the mount point to
import the files.

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Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 00:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 22:53 -0500, KC8LDO wrote:
  Speaking about bogus resolvers, having the ISP's mess with DNS, is
  just the start of it. Wait until they get around to forcing people to
  install custom TCP/IP stacks that ONLY will work on their network as a
  means to monitor and control traffic. There is nothing the FCC has
  done that excludes this option.
 
 The FCC has no control whatsoever over Internet protocols, particularly
 outside the USA.

The tinfoil helmet brigade is getting restless. ;-P
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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:02:03 -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

 I have mirrors of several repositories a 1TB hardware raid array mounted
 as /pub on a RHEL54 server. I want to locally export that to several F12
 laptops and desktop machines on a gigabit home network using nfs4. I'm
 having trouble getting F12 nfs4 clients to mount the exported directory
 on the RHEL54 server. The error I'm getting on the F12 client is:
 
 
 # mount -v -t nfs4 -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
 lion:/pub /lion mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sun Jan  3 17:16:25
 2010 mount.nfs4: trying text-based options
 
'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.2,clientaddr=192.168.1.7'
 mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted mount.nfs4:
 Operation not permitted
 
 
 Local details:
 RHEL54 server 'lion' = 192.168.1.2
 /etc/exports = *(rw), owned by root, permissions 644 F12 laptop 'tiger'
 = 192.168.1.7
 
 The server looks fine:
 
 
 # service nfs restart
 Shutting down NFS mountd:  [  OK
  ] Shutting down NFS daemon:  [ 
 OK  ] Shutting down NFS quotas: 
 [  OK  ] Shutting down NFS services:
[  OK  ] Starting NFS services:  
   [  OK  ] Starting NFS quotas: 
  [  OK  ] Starting NFS daemon:  
 [  OK  ] Starting NFS mountd:   
[  OK  ]
 
 
 The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:
 
 # service nfs restart
 Shutting down NFS mountd: 
 [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon:  
[  OK  ] Shutting down NFS quotas:   
   [  OK  ] Shutting down NFS services:  
  [FAILED] Starting NFS services:
 [  OK  ] Starting NFS quotas:   
[  OK  ] Starting NFS daemon:
   [  OK  ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage:
 rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d
 kind|--debug kind]
 [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f
 exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V
 version|--nfs-version version] [-N
 version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H
 ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
 [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]

[FAILED]
 
 
 About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using
 nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to
 be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd.
 
 --Doc Savage
   Fairview Heights, IL.0
 
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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists

  While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup
- I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml
definitions from when they were created.

  Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log
to a .xml file.

   Thanks for help!

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Re: random lockups when using Firefox

2010-01-03 Thread Julian C. Dunn
On 01/03/2010 04:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:40:32 -0500
 Julian C. Dunn wrote:
 
 Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this?  

 Do you have desktop effects enabled?  

 Nope, I don't.
 
 There are certainly radeon bugs out there. For instance:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387
 
 You might want to check yout /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
 file from the crash to see if there is a similar
 backtrace in there to the on in the above bugzilla.

Thanks Tom -- it seems to be the same issue.

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 09:37 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au:

Hi,
I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.


Dying hard drive? Bad installation media?

-c

No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh 
install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.


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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au:
 No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh
 install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.

Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 00:42 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote:

 On the client side just install and run autofs. Then, from any client 
 
 cd /net/lion/pub 
 
 and you're there. No need for cryptic mount commands in /etc/fstab 
 (although, of course, you can go that way too, if you want). The 
 automounter will do the work for you, on demand. 


Well, slap my momma on the a$$!! That works, but /net/lion/pub isn't
quite where I'd wanted the mount to appear.

If I put the following line in /etc/fstab:


lion:/pub   /lion   nfs4  rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0
0


I wonder why I can't manually mount the nfs-exported directory in /lion,
which is owned by root:root and permissions 755?? I appreciate
automount's almost magical capabilities, but I'd sure like to know why
the old fashioned way no longer works. I'm old school in stuff like
this.

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
... snip ...
 The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:

 # service nfs restart
 Shutting down NFS mountd:  [FAILED]
 Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
 Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
 Shutting down NFS services:    [FAILED]
 Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] 
 [-v|--version] [
 -d kind|--debug kind]
     [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
     [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
     [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
     [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
     [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
    [FAILED]


 About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement
 using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4.
 I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with
 rpc.mountd.

  a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is
deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs.  apparently, that
causes the problem so you should try this:

#MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no

weirdly, that fixes that last problem.  why should that be?

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu:

 We (fedora-kde sig) would be more interested in this if there were more
 effort to push such integration to mozilla upstream.  As far as I'm aware,
 there is very little to date.  (ie, I personally wouldn't be too interested
 in trying to maintain something like this that doesn't have good/broad
 support by mozilla developers too).

FYI, although there's nothing to report yet, there is a bug track
entered upstream here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528510;

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 09:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

 Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
 it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?
 
 -c
 

 Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
partition.


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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Gene,

2010/1/3 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:
 On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?

 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

  I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:

  Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
 in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
 partition.

Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was
assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was
re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that
could well be it.

My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That
doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written
properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4.

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Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server

2010-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron

All -

To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own.  I am not 
pirating, I am just trying to get all my DVDs onto a media server I am 
building instead of having them strewn all over the entertainment center.


Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen.  It 
apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it 
is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed.


I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD 
Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g).


What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer, 
copy-protected DVDs under Linux?


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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
could well be it.
 
 My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
 correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That

  I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem -
installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the
'real' driver jumps in and craps out.

  I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything
of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever).

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Re: Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server

2010-01-03 Thread john wendel

On 01/03/2010 08:29 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:

All -

To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own. I am not
pirating, I am just trying to get all my DVDs onto a media server I am
building instead of having them strewn all over the entertainment center.

Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen. It
apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it
is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed.

I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD
Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g).

What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer,
copy-protected DVDs under Linux?



Newest thing I have is Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Copied 
fine with F11 and K3B 1.0.5. I haven't seen anything about any new copy 
protection schemes.


Maybe you should post what you actually used to rip and the version numbers.

Regards,

John

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control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell

A quick question which is hopefully just an education request ...

While reinstalling f12 on a machine that I messed up, I was following 
all my notes and directions and reached the point where the install was 
successful and it was time to update. I did a su -l and then typed 
yum update. I realized I had forgotten something and immediately did a 
control-C in the terminal that I had executed the yum update. To my 
surprise, it ignored it until it got to the first confirm and then 
proceeded to kill the process. No problem as the update was stopped but ...


I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and 
was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it.


Am I missing something about either control-C or yum update .. or both?

Thanks in advance for any explanation as I am wondering if I really 
understand control-C

Paul

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Suvayu Ali

Hi Gene,

On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote:


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.



  Holy smoke - you're right!!

  I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!!
Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever?



Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files 
would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines.


I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage 
your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To 
open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the 
commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help 
command'.



  Thank you!



I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And 
Happy New Year to all. :)

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yum update question

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I 
got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into 
computer that has mail so I might have a typo:


[...]
   Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
[...]

The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be 
getting too old. But I can't figure out how I am decipher this message 
into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is missing in my 
firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another machine and do not 
see these warnings.


IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand these 
messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I can't 
complain until I understand this warning.


Thanks in advance,
Paul

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
 ... snip ...
  The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:
 
  # service nfs restart
  Shutting down NFS mountd:  [FAILED]
  Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
  Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
  Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED]
  Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
  Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
  Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
  Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] 
  [-v|--version] [
  -d kind|--debug kind]
  [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
  [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
  [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
  [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
  [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
 [FAILED]
 
 
  About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement
  using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4.
  I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with
  rpc.mountd.
 
   a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is
 deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs.  apparently, that
 causes the problem so you should try this:
 
 #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
 MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
 MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no
 
 weirdly, that fixes that last problem.  why should that be?

Robert,

Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the manual
nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking. Thanks.

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Re: control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu:

 I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was
 wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it.


It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a
different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it
straight away:

Ctrl+z
kill %1

-c

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
  On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
  ... snip ...
   The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:
  
   # service nfs restart
   Shutting down NFS mountd:  [FAILED]
   Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
   Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
   Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED]
   Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
   Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
   Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
   Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] 
   [-v|--version] [
   -d kind|--debug kind]
   [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
   [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
   [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
   [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
   [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
  [FAILED]
  
  
   About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement
   using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4.
   I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with
   rpc.mountd.
 
a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is
  deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs.  apparently, that
  causes the problem so you should try this:
 
  #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
  MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
  MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no
 
  weirdly, that fixes that last problem.  why should that be?

 Robert,

 Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the
 manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking.
 Thanks.

  i'll start with submitting the above rpc.mountd error(?) to
bugzilla.  it seems pretty clear that *needing* NFSv1 support simply
to *start* rpc.mountd makes no sense.  but there's still another issue
related to this.

  as i read it, NFSv4 now incorporates the mount operation in the
protocol, and i read that as saying that you don't even *need* a
running rpc.mountd anymore if you restrict yourself to NFSv4.
however, the earlier emailer wrote the following:

My understanding is that mountd, statd etc are still needed but they
do not need to be exposed to the outside world. That is, you can limit
all of them in /etc/hosts.allow to 127.0.0.1 and only open port 2049
on the firewall.

  so does anyone know for sure?  in any event, i'll bugzilla that
earlier error.

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Re: control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell

Chris Smart wrote:

2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu:
  

I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was
wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it.




It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a
different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it
straight away:

Ctrl+z
kill %1

-c

  

Chris:

Got it ... this makes sense as there are jobs I run that I have to ps 
and then kill. If yum blocks until first y/N, it makes sense.


Thanks,
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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

   
 On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
 On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
 ... snip ...
   
 The problem appears to be on the F12 client side:

 # service nfs restart
 Shutting down NFS mountd:  [FAILED]
 Shutting down NFS daemon:  [  OK  ]
 Shutting down NFS quotas:  [  OK  ]
 Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED]
 Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
 Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] 
 [-v|--version] [
 -d kind|--debug kind]
 [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file]
 [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version]
 [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp]
 [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path]
 [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num]
[FAILED]


 About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement
 using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4.
 I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with
 rpc.mountd.
 
   a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is
 deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs.  apparently, that
 causes the problem so you should try this:

 #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no
 MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no
 MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no

 weirdly, that fixes that last problem.  why should that be?
   
 Robert,

 Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the
 manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking.
 Thanks.
 

   i'll start with submitting the above rpc.mountd error(?) to
 bugzilla.  it seems pretty clear that *needing* NFSv1 support simply
 to *start* rpc.mountd makes no sense.  but there's still another issue
 related to this.

   as i read it, NFSv4 now incorporates the mount operation in the
 protocol, and i read that as saying that you don't even *need* a
 running rpc.mountd anymore if you restrict yourself to NFSv4.
 however, the earlier emailer wrote the following:

 My understanding is that mountd, statd etc are still needed but they
 do not need to be exposed to the outside world. That is, you can limit
 all of them in /etc/hosts.allow to 127.0.0.1 and only open port 2049
 on the firewall.

   so does anyone know for sure?  in any event, i'll bugzilla that
 earlier error.

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States

|rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and
verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process
is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user
configuration. This is not used with NFSv4.

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552144

  feel free to add any further observations to that BZ.

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:

 http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html

 States

 |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and
 verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process
 is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user
 configuration. This is not used with NFSv4.

  and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script
/etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for
that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively
with NFSv4, no?  if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i
want to make sure that it's really an error first.

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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:

   
 http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html

 States

 |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and
 verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process
 is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user
 configuration. This is not used with NFSv4.
 

   and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script
 /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for
 that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively
 with NFSv4, no?  if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i
 want to make sure that it's really an error first.

   
I suppose a case could be made for that either way.  Seems rather minor
to me.

I've not yet had time to look a this stuff.  However, is there any
downside from starting rpc.mountd even if it isn't going to be used?



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Re: Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server

2010-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 04 January 2010 04:29:37 Thomas Cameron wrote:
 To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own.

I always understood all this DVD ownership thing in the following way --- you 
own the disk itself (the hardware media, the cheap part), and you own the 
right to play it in your home (the expensive part). But you don't own the data 
on the disk (I guess that would be 8-digit expensive), and therefore are not 
allowed to make copies of it, even for yourself. I am not sure that this 
interpretation is correct, but you may want to reread and rethink the 
copyright clause of your DVD's and understand more precisely what exactly you 
do own and what you do not own.

That said, I perfectly understand the need to backup those DVD's. If movie 
companies would provide a service of replacing original but broken (or worn 
off) media with new ones, free of charge (or only for the cost of media), life 
would be much easier. But unfortunately, movie companies are greedy enough to 
require you to buy not only two copies of the media (cheap), but also two 
copies of the right to play it (expensive) when your media wears off. As a 
user, the only legitimate option you have is the illegal one --- to break the 
law and copy the data... :-)

 Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen.  It
 apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it
 is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed.

In principle, every movie that can be played back on a computer can be copied 
on a hard disk (think of capturing the screen on every frame). So the real 
question is --- can you *play* the damn thing in Linux? If you can do a

mplayer dvd://

and are able to watch it, then you can use mencoder to rip it. If you are not 
comfortable with command line, there are various GUI's for various encoders 
out there that can make things easier.

 I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD
 Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g).

Do you want to rip the DVD or to copy it? These things are not quite the same. 

Making an exact copy of the DVD may not be so easy, if at all possible. The 
manufacturer may intentionally implement hardware errors in the media, with 
the idea to check if those errors are present during playback (thus 
determining if the copy is legal or not). Those things are not easy to 
reproduce.

OTOH, ripping is the procedure of re-recording the data that is being played. 
Provided that you are able to play the movie at all, this can always be done.

 What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer,
 copy-protected DVDs under Linux?

If I want to rip the movie, I use mencoder. And I tweak the custom detailed 
options for every particular movie in order to get the best rip.

If I want to copy the DVD, I usually use dd to create an .iso file. While the 
.iso is on the hard disk, I always loop mount it and check if the movie is 
playable from there (ie that there are no nasty copy-protection schemes 
involved). If it is, good. If it is not, I try to understand why, tweak the dd 
options a little in order to get it right, etc. If I fail or tweaking takes 
too much time, I give up and rip the movie instead.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 03 January 2010 21:22:32 david walcroft wrote:
 I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or
 shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen.
 and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access
 /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun
 from my backup and logout/login with no result.
 An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my
 usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp
 -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was
 over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system.
 I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be
 appreciated.

Ok, how about this: create a new, dummy user, and log into that account (into 
KDE, of course). Check that everything is ok, logout, log back in. Is it the 
same? Do you still see the error message?

If the dummy user works as expected, then something in your old settings in 
~/.kde.old is making KDE unhappy.

If the dummy user doesn't work, then there is some deeper problem and it needs 
troubleshooting. My idea would be to read the system and KDE log files, and 
look for errors and warnings. Or to switch to runlevel 3, do a startx, 
reproduce the error, read the output from the terminal. Or to do a strace or 
something, to see what app is trying to access /usr/bin/autorun.

Incidentally, I don't have /usr/bin/autorun on my system, and it runs KDE just 
fine.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: Also having NFSv4 problems

2010-01-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
  On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:
 
 
  http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html
 
  States
 
  |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS
  clients and verifies the requested file system is currently
  exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs|
  service and does not require user configuration. This is not used
  with NFSv4.
 
and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script
  /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd
  for that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run
  exclusively with NFSv4, no?  if that's the case, i can bugzilla
  that as well but i want to make sure that it's really an error
  first.
 
 I suppose a case could be made for that either way.  Seems rather
 minor to me.

 I've not yet had time to look a this stuff.  However, is there any
 downside from starting rpc.mountd even if it isn't going to be used?

  i don't know.  and it's not only rpc.mountd.  as i read it,
rpc.statd *also* becomes superfluous.  and if there's no reason to run
a daemon, i see no point in running it.  why waste the cycles?

  also, the fact that you're (unnecessarily) running rpc.mountd and
rpc.statd might, in some weird way, support NFSv3 operations.  if
you're not running those, it's pretty much a *guarantee* that you're
supporting only NFSv4, no?  think of it as a sanity check.  (and
remember my earlier bit where someone claimed that you *do* need to be
running them, they just don't need to be available to the outside
world so you don't need to allow them through the firewall.)

  in any event, i just want to clarify the situation since i've seen
two apparently differing explanations.

rday

p.s.  just FYI, i didn't plan on this discussion getting quite so
animated.  :-)  i figured getting a simple NFSv4 example running on
f12 would be a piece of cake.  apparently, not quite.

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Re: yum update question

2010-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
 While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I
 got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into
 computer that has mail so I might have a typo:
 
 [...]
 Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
  W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
  W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
 [...]

Did you also get the message like:

Processing delta metadata
/boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data

or similar, somewhere in the early stages of the update process (before the 
actual installing of .rpm's)?

If yes, then you have probably hit this bug:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901

In short, those warnings are harmless and you are pretty safe to ignore them.

HTH, :-)
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Re: F13 Schedule - question!

2010-01-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:02:36AM -0500, Mel Chua wrote:
 On 12/21/2009 03:01 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
 On poelcat's F13 draft schedule (see:
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13-draft/f-13-marketing-tasks.html),
 tasks 13 and 15 are to update / freeze the Fedora tour page. Since
 we're doing the one-page release notes in lieu of the Fedora tour
 page, should we remove those tasks from the schedule (I'm assuming
 so...)?
 
 Yes.
 
 Should the one-page release notes draft / completion dates be
 rearranged to be more in line with when the Fedora tour pages were
 done, or are we comfortable with those dates and how they fall into
 the grander scheme of things?
 
 The completion dates for the one-page/tour as we have them right now
 are good, but this was a good sanity check to run.
 
 Also - shall we put a note on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours
 reflecting that we now do one-pg release notes instead of Tours, so
 that anyone looking for a Tour isn't wondering why the heck we didn't
 have one for F12 (or F13, and so forth)?
 
 Yes! We should do this when we revise the SOPs.
 
 Thanks for bringing this up, Robyn - I think we're shaping up to
 have a really solid F13 schedule. Now all we have to do is clean up
 Trac. :)

Late, but +1 to Robyn's suggestion on eliminating confusion with a
link.

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Re: Openoffice.org EOL announcement

2010-01-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:47:00PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 I like the FAQ they have in the EOL announcement.  Fedora could learn
 from this.
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=407

I added this link to the EOL SOP currently under development:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP

I also added a link to that page on the main EOL page so it would be
easier for you or anyone else to help contribute directly to it.

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Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!

2010-01-03 Thread Mel Chua
(from
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html)

On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Greetings. :)
 
 =
 
 I like this Fedora 12 one page release notes -
 
 A very professional looking page.  :)
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes
 
 =
 
 I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' F12 release slogan -
 
 Unite.  :)
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan
 
 =
 
 I have made an update for Fedora 13 Goddard -
 
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
 
 for the F13 release slogan -
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan

Thanks for making the page, David!

We'll be making the big help us pick a slogan! public call for
participation in February (see task #5 in
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html)
but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;)

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Fwd: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users

2010-01-03 Thread Mel Chua
Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should 
we look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to 
get Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or 
(2) SEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at 
some point?


--Mel

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500
From: Michael Tiemann tiem...@redhat.com

Kara Schiltz wrote:

Computerworld
12.16.09

Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

[clip]

Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me
as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of
contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're
going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro
for you.


I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very
hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1.  By hostile I
mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern
versions of Mac OSX.  The installation process went perfectly smoothly
until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the
GPT has a bootable flag that needed to be reset.  I reset the flag,
and then grub failed.  Some googling led me to question whether my ext4
boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to 
some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as

ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly
thereafter.  WIN!

What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power 
users, you might ask?


I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora
problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive
search result.  Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu
I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for
all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to
lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu.

If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS
installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing
field.  Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) 
to treat Linux like Fedora?


M

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Re: Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!

2010-01-03 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Fun! I filled in my placeholder for my idea from when I built the
template page, since I couldn't contain it anymore.

Rock it! ;)

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote:
 (from
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html)

 On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Greetings. :)

 =

 I like this Fedora 12 one page release notes -

 A very professional looking page.  :)

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes

 =

 I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' F12 release slogan -

 Unite.  :)

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan

 =

 I have made an update for Fedora 13 Goddard -


 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables

 for the F13 release slogan -

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan

 Thanks for making the page, David!

 We'll be making the big help us pick a slogan! public call for
 participation in February (see task #5 in
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html)
 but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;)

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Re: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users

2010-01-03 Thread Robyn Bergeron
A few first blush thoughts, I'll think more on this though:

1) Tiemann's idea on setting preferences to treat linux as fedora
is interesting.  One problem I can see with that is that if the
browser with the preferences is, say, not yet installed because the
user is going through some process similar to what he's went through
below, and they happen to be a first-time user or this is (or going to
be) their only Fedora machine, then they're defaulting to going and
using google on their other machine, which isn't going to have those
preferences anyhow.

2) Unless we make the distinction -VERY VERY- clear when people are
installing that we are going to be slightly altering their google
results via some set preference, I could see a lot of community uproar
over this, particularly from developers who are developing / testing
on multiple platforms, who don't necessarily want to have fedora-tuned
results.

3) All that said - rather than changing preferences, doing something
like a Fedora toolbar that is a plug-in to the browser might be a
better idea. We could probably include a google search box that would
tune search results, links to community stuff like mailing lists and
documentation, etc. (And Fedora Insight!)  We could recommend that
people install it (a) when they're installing the Fedora OS, and/or
(b) when they're downloading it, quite possibly from a machine that is
-not- the machine they will be installing it on,  and would be the
machine they would be consulting in the very unlikely situation that
they do not have a flawless installation. :)  ie: Installing Fedora?
We don't anticipate that you'll need our help. But if you do, this
toolbar has the magic.

4) SEO -never- hurts.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote:
 Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should we
 look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to get
 Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or (2) SEO
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at some point?

 --Mel

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500
 From: Michael Tiemann tiem...@redhat.com

 Kara Schiltz wrote:

 Computerworld
 12.16.09

 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
 By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

 [clip]

 Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me
 as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of
 contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're
 going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro
 for you.

 I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very
 hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1.  By hostile I
 mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern
 versions of Mac OSX.  The installation process went perfectly smoothly
 until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the
 GPT has a bootable flag that needed to be reset.  I reset the flag,
 and then grub failed.  Some googling led me to question whether my ext4
 boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to
 some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as
 ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly
 thereafter.  WIN!

 What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power
 users, you might ask?

 I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora
 problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive
 search result.  Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu
 I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for
 all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to
 lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu.

 If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS
 installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing
 field.  Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) to
 treat Linux like Fedora?

 M

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[Bug 551988] New: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64

2010-01-03 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551988

   Summary: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for
ppc64
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: ppc64
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-Math-Pari
AssignedTo: p...@city-fan.org
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Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:

perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64.  It seems one of the
testcases run during the build fails.  This same package builds for 32-bit ppc
just fine.

Logs here:

http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=43641

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[Bug 552105] New: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required

2010-01-03 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552105

   Summary: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 11
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: cpanspec
AssignedTo: st...@silug.org
ReportedBy: t...@tim-landscheidt.de
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: st...@silug.org, fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Created an attachment (id=381464)
 -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=381464)
Patch to ignore recommends dependencies.

With cpanspec 1.78, META.yml's recommends dependencies are treated as
requires ones. That is way too harsh and easily requires many more package
updates than ordinarily necessary. The attached patch fixes this.

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Request For Linux CD (or) DVD

2010-01-03 Thread Kumareshwar Rajamanickam
*Respected Sir*,
  I am Student in SRM UNVI in
 Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R.
  My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD,
  My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send
to You Free CD (or) DVD.
So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting
my request.



 *yours obediently*,


Kumareshwar.R
No.99 Near Railway Gate
Deviyakurichi (Po)
Attur (Tk)
Salem(Dt)
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Request For Linux CD (or) DVD

2010-01-03 Thread Kumareshwar Rajamanickam
*Respected Sir*,
  I am Student in SRM UNVI in
 Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R.
  My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD,
  My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to
You Free CD (or) DVD.
  So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my request.

  * your's
obediently,*


Kumareshwar.R
No.99 Near Railway Gate
Deviyakurichi (Po)
Attur (Tk)
Salem(Dt)
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Re: Request For Linux CD (or) DVD

2010-01-03 Thread Danishka Navin
Hi Kumareshwar,

Pls read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia

You must request media from the Free Media Formin bellow

https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html



On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Kumareshwar Rajamanickam
ligh...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Respected Sir*,
   I am Student in SRM UNVI in

  Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R.
   My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD,

   My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to You 
 Free CD (or) DVD.
 So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my 
 request.



fedora-websites list is not for media distribution.

Btw, you are not poor as long as you are having good knowledge  the talent
;-)

Have a nice day dosth. :)

Danishka



  *yours obediently*,


 Kumareshwar.R
 No.99 Near Railway Gate
 Deviyakurichi (Po)
 Attur (Tk)
 Salem(Dt)


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Re: Request For Linux CD (or) DVD

2010-01-03 Thread Vikram Dhillon
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kumareshwar,

 Pls read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia

 You must request media from the Free Media Formin bellow

 https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html



 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Kumareshwar Rajamanickam ligh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Respected Sir,
   I am Student in SRM UNVI in


  Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R.
   My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD,

   My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to
 You Free CD (or) DVD.
 So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my
 request.



 fedora-websites list is not for media distribution.

 Btw, you are not poor as long as you are having good knowledge  the talent
 ;-)

 Have a nice day dosth. :)

 Danishka


  yours obediently,



 Kumareshwar.R
 No.99 Near Railway Gate
 Deviyakurichi (Po)
 Attur (Tk)
 Salem(Dt)

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You should be able to get the CD's from the media request form as
mentioned above :) and we are all poor, the only rich person is the
one who made us all :D

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