Re: ABRT considered painful
On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:39:07 +0100, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote: When the debuginfo package of a particular binary is installed, then the symbols are loaded whenever the binary is loaded or are the symbols only considered by tools like gdb and so on? The latter. Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only copies the needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT people. Jan Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to /var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a planned feature. Jirka attachment: jmoskovc.vcf-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
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need help in contributing to se-linux policy development
hi, my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassadorhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:ganesai.i want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am a Redhat certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i contribute ? whom should i contact? i have already tried contacting the owners of the se-linux packages.i didn't get any response. -- s.saiganesh “The Linux philosophy is 'Laugh in the face of danger'. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself'. Yes, that's it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?
Hi, Sometime in the past few weeks I've ended up as the package owner for emacs, without actually requesting it. I've previously been a co-maintainer (i.e. watchbugzilla, watchcommits, commit, approveacls), but haven't requested package ownership at any point, so I'm wondering what turn of events brought this about, and whether it's a bug with the pkgdb. If a package is orphaned by its owner, does the next person with commit access become the package owner or something like that? If so, I think that needs a bit more thinking. I'm not really grumbling about become the package owner (though I'm not sure I have enough knowledge of emacs internals to take on that role), though I am genuinely confused as to how this happened. Unfortunately the emacs package does seem to get bumped around various RH employees - it'd be nice if there was a bit more communication about this when it happens. Cheers, Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: need help in contributing to se-linux policy development
2010/1/3 sai ganesh gane...@fedoraproject.org: hi, my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am a Redhat certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i contribute ? whom should i contact? i have already tried contacting the owners of the se-linux packages.i didn't get any response. Perhaps you'd be better off sending a mail to the fedora-selinux-list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: installing 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system (nouveau issue?)
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:47:19PM +, David Woodhouse wrote: Obviously that doesn't count for the nVidia binary module, which doesn't exist for ppc64. And nouveau is relatively new and not currently being used in Fedora/PPC64 so I'm prepared to believe that their 'work in progress' API still has some issues in that area, as you suggest. Nouveau works fine with Fedora 12 for ppc64. I use it on an iMac G5 with an nVidia card for basic 2d output. I believe it also worked in F11. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?
2010/1/3 Karel Klic kk...@redhat.com: Hi Jonathan, you became the owner in the pkgdb when Daniel Novotny and I agreed to transfer the package ownership to me. We discovered that the next person with commit access become the owner when a package is orphaned, and the package owner cannot be changed in pkgdb. I asked about the solution on IRC, and when I got no answer I postponed it. From my point of view it is not important who is the owner when I can fix bugs and commit changes. I apologize to you for not sending an email about the change, that would have been be the right thing. Nonetheless, I am also interested in how to change the owner to certain person from the list of package maintainers. Hi Karel, Aha - thanks for explaining what happened. I just tried releasing package ownership using the pkgdb web interface, but that doesn't seem to work... will continue to investigate. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:53:26 +0100, Karel Klic kk...@redhat.com wrote: Nonetheless, I am also interested in how to change the owner to certain person from the list of package maintainers. I think the right way to fix this is to file a ticket with infrastructure. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: ABRT considered painful
On 3.1.2010 13:37, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:39:07 +0100, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote: When the debuginfo package of a particular binary is installed, then the symbols are loaded whenever the binary is loaded or are the symbols only considered by tools like gdb and so on? The latter. Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only copies the needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT people. Jan Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to /var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a planned feature. If you will indeed implement this, please let the users choose whether they want the .debug files (or whatever you extract) to be removed or kept forever. I'm really happy with the current situation and do not want to wait until ABRT downloads the debuginfo packages every time again. Thanks, Milos -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb
That was definitely informative. Thanks for the explanations. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: ABRT considered painful
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 13:37 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/02/2010 03:32 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: Moreover ABRT does not install the whole debuginfo package but only copies the needed specific .debug files out of it somewhere - as know the ABRT people. Exactly, we don't install it, just extract the package to /var/cache/abrt-di. ABRT doesn't remove it automatically, but it's a planned feature. Why do you do this? -- James Antill - ja...@fedoraproject.org http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/releases http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/whatsnew/3.2.26 http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumMultipleMachineCaching -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 551317] [te_IN] A dash becomes a long empty space.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551317 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #4 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2010-01-04 02:08:27 EDT --- thats nice -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
how can I capture my desktop (video)??
http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php Hi list, I want to make capture for my desktop. xvidcap is a good tool but it is not suitable for capturing all the screen. Have you any idea about the tool that was used to capture the video in the link above? Thanks Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??
Adel ESSAFI wrote: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php Hi list, I want to make capture for my desktop. xvidcap is a good tool but it is not suitable for capturing all the screen. Have you any idea about the tool that was used to capture the video in the link above? recordmydesktop is in Fedora extras Why not give that a try. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??
Am 03.01.2010 09:15, schrieb Adel ESSAFI: I want to make capture for my desktop. What about istanbul? (install from updates-testing, stable version is unusable due to bug 543278) fs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: whence RPCBIND_ARGS?
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 02Jan2010 14:47, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: | i'm tracing the execution of rpcbind on my f12 system, and in the | common code, i read: | | prog=rpcbind | [ -f /etc/sysconfig/$prog ] . /etc/sysconfig/$prog | | while in the start() function, there is: | | daemon $prog $RPCBIND_ARGS $1 | | i'm curious about this since: | | 1) there's no apparent documentation for setting/using $RPCBIND_ARGS man rpcbind describes a heap of options. Clearly you can put any of them into RPCBIND_ARGS. | 2) there's no /etc/sysconfig/rpcbind file for initial config A pity. There really ought to be a stub file with an empty RPCBIND_ARGS= assignment. And a comment. | 3) there's no mention of RPCBIND_ARGS in the rpcbind man page Of course not. It's an artifact of the f12 startup scripts, not the rpcbind daemon itself. | admittedly, that doesn't make any of this *wrong*, it just seems | that $RPCBIND_ARGS is kind of hanging out there, without anyone making | an effort to explain what might be done with it or why it would be | useful. thoughts? Like all the /etc/sysconfig files, you can put something like: RPCBIND_ARGS=-h some.local.lan.address or the like to start rpcbind with particular arguments. i'm not suggesting there's anything *wrong* with the current situation, just that since /etc/init.d/rpcbind explicitly refers to RPCBIND_ARGS, it would have been handy to have mentioned it somewhere so users might be able to take advantage of it. personally, i like your suggestion 2) above -- have a no-op /etc/sysconfig/rpcbind file with at least a few comments and sample variable settings. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
2010/1/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. rday -- I saw SLES 11 on my bro' laptop. I think it's totally different from any Fedora I've ever seen. It's strange and ugly. It has different folder structure and there's no yum (only some package manager called 'zypper')! Sorry, can't help you any more - I have no access to it now - I've persuaded my brother to install CentOS on it. -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?
way through the user account preferences to turn this feature OFF. Various posts on the 'net claim this violates the documented way DNS look ups work. It is The suggestion is to either turn it off if you can, which may involve a phone call to your ISP, if not then LOUDLY complain about it screwing up you network. Oh and one other if you are particularly evil. If they are redirecting stuff which contains trademarks you can let the trademark owners know their marks are being used this way 8) Fortunately you can also run your own nameserver which generally works around the ISP. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
running *only* NFSv4 on f12 produces rpc.mountd error
i'm currently still messing with various bits of NFS on f12, and i wanted to see if i could properly run *only* NFSv4 (that is, no support for any earlier version of NFS), so some questions. first, is there a short way to examine what versions are supported by a running nfsd? i'm *guessing* that i can see that via rpcinfo -p: ... 132 tcp 2049 nfs 133 tcp 2049 nfs 134 tcp 2049 nfs 132 udp 2049 nfs 133 udp 2049 nfs 134 udp 2049 nfs ... is that what i'm being shown above? that i currently have support for versions 2, 3 and 4?is there no simpler way to query a running nfsd for that info? but here's where it gets trickier. from here (which i assume is relevant): http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html i'm told that, under NFSv4, there is no need for any of rpc.mountd, rpc.lockd or rpc.statd (as i read it, all this functionality has been moved into the kernel with NFSv4). so i can see how to disable support for all earlier versions of nfs in /etc/sysconfig/nfs: # # Define which protocol versions mountd # will advertise. The values are no or yes # with yes being the default #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no #MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no #MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no ... so i uncomment all those lines to (allegedly) disable all earlier version support and: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[ OK ] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] # ok, what just happened there? am i not allowed to do what i just tried? and if i explicitly try to run *only* NFSv4, why is rpc.mountd even being invoked? is there something else i need to be doing here? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500 Mail Llists wrote: What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local, then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot from the disk image and maybe it will be back. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. I haven't use suse in quite some time. Are you asking about SLES (which is the equivalent of RHEL) or openSUSE which is more akin to Fedora, AFAIK? In any event, if I were doing what I think you're doing I would download either the openSUSE DVD or the openSUSE live CD's and try it myself in a Virtual Machine. I mean, who better to know what exact comparisons I'm looking for? As I said, I've not used suse in quite a while. But, your question as well as the post about firefox/kde integration has prompted me to start downloading the DVD to give it a try. I think it is safe to say that Fedora/RH place less emphasis on KDE than suse does. So, being a KDE leaning person it would be worth the time to check it out. Of course, just like trying any other distro there will be differences. I believe suse uses yast as their package manger. But, at least it is rpm based and I'm used to the warts of that system. Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will. Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system. Sounds like a nice challenge. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:08:52 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I have been using the remind program for years. It takes input in text files and can generate task lists, text calendars for email, or HTML calendars to your web size. It handles things like first tuesday after the first monday, the bizarre rules about when US holidays have been moved to make three day weekend and remove historical significance, and the like. Also does differences, so you can print not only the birthday of kids but their age this year, anniversaries, last friday in the quarter, Easter, whatever. And you can generate documentation or actually execute programs, which is also handy. Very nice indeed. Also dayplanner may be worth a try. Not as sophisticated as remind (can't skip over holidays, doesn't seem to be able to take an action upon an event, etc.) but runs as a daemon, so it reduces desktop clutter. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Sansa mp3 player support
I have a Sansa Connect player that has a number of the setup functions disabled (for example the wifi is turned off). I cannot get it into the mode where it appears as a USB drive to non-M$ systems that have itunes installed on it. I just installed FC12 on this notebook. When I plug the Sansa player in, it displays messages about geting Ablum and song info and then comes up in its regular Music Library. On my FC12 system, I cannot find any mounted device (like in /media) and RythmBox (which was running at the time) does not show any of the songs on the player. help? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local, then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot from the disk image and maybe it will be back. Yeh ok .. thanks for your help gene -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sansa mp3 player support
Got it working!!! There was a dialog about what to open for the device behind all my other open apps. So I just selected Nautilus. On 01/03/2010 10:27 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a Sansa Connect player that has a number of the setup functions disabled (for example the wifi is turned off). I cannot get it into the mode where it appears as a USB drive to non-M$ systems that have itunes installed on it. I just installed FC12 on this notebook. When I plug the Sansa player in, it displays messages about geting Ablum and song info and then comes up in its regular Music Library. On my FC12 system, I cannot find any mounted device (like in /media) and RythmBox (which was running at the time) does not show any of the songs on the player. help? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 12 Second Monitor issue
Hey everyone, I may just not be seeing this topic and if so I am sorry. I just started running Fedora 12 with two monitors. The main display is fine, but my second display will not give me more than 800X600 resolution. It is a HP vs19 LCD, and I know it is capable of more. Is there any solution to this? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command that way :-). If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. I haven't use suse in quite some time. Are you asking about SLES (which is the equivalent of RHEL) or openSUSE which is more akin to Fedora, AFAIK? technically, SLES 11, but i have to imagine that there's not going to be a lot of difference between the two in terms of NFS. Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will. Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system. Sounds like a nice challenge. i'm currently digging through the docs and scripts, and my current challenge is to see what it takes to set up simple NFS on f12 using *only* nfsv4 with no earlier version compatibility. so far, still a bug or two in the system. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11/12 kernels as xen domU
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:19:40AM +1100, Norman Gaywood wrote: Is anyone having any stability with the fedora kernels running as a Xen DomU. Dom0 is a Centos 5.4 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5xen kernel. These fedora kernels seem to lockup (processes get stuck in D state) whenever put under any load: kernel-2.6.30.10-105.fc11.x86_64 kernel-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 kernel-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 Yes, I tried a fedora 11 kernel on a fedora 12 system. This is the most stable for me. Here are some bugzilla entries (one posted by me) that point to this problem: kernel 2.6.31 processes lock up in D state https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550724 FC12 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 hangs under heavy disk I/O https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551552 I know Jeremy is away on vacation atm, but hopefully he can comment about these when he gets back. Jeremy: Have you seen this kind of domU problem reports earlier ? -- Pasi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows where :-). Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its buried in the registry somewhere. If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command that way :-). I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's. If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org. Ug. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??
On 01/03/2010 09:13 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote: Am 03.01.2010 09:15, schrieb Adel ESSAFI: I want to make capture for my desktop. What about istanbul? (install from updates-testing, stable version is unusable due to bug 543278) fs I personaly use ffmpeg, heres the command i use... ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x1024 -r 15 -b 5000k -i :0.0 -s 480x360 -r 15 -b 500k out.flv -s 1280x1024 is my desktop size -r 15 is 15 fps -b 5000k is the input quality, i use a nice high number for good quality -s 480x360 is the final size of the output video the second -r 15 is the final fps of the output video the second -b 500k is the output quality, this saves me converting it later, you could just use... ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x1024 -r 15 -b 5000k -i :0.0 out.flv but the output would be huge but really good quality, so you could then resize it with... ffmpeg -i out.flv -s 480x360 -r15 -b 500k resized.flv the top example does both these in 1 command i use .flv as the output so i can put it my website, you can just change out.flv to out.mpg or out.ogv or out.avi and ffmpeg will automatically encode it in that format Martin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 Second Monitor issue
On 01/03/2010 10:46 AM, John Clark wrote: Hey everyone, I may just not be seeing this topic and if so I am sorry. I just started running Fedora 12 with two monitors. The main display is fine, but my second display will not give me more than 800X600 resolution. It is a HP vs19 LCD, and I know it is capable of more. Is there any solution to this? similar to my bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551920 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. ... snip ... Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will. Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system. Sounds like a nice challenge. ok, a few questions/observations regarding nfsv4, if i might. as i mentioned in an earlier post, i'm working off of this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html and seeing what it would take to set up a simple NFS configuration on fedora 12 that uses *nothing* but nfsv4. so feel free to comment on the following suppositions: * NFSv4 appears to be a stable technology that should work. (there is an NFS 4.1 that is labelled as experimental, but am i correct in assuming that NFSv4 is supposed to work properly?) * i did notice that mounting via NFSv4 requires the -t nfs4 mount option, not just -t nfs. is that actually a *requirement*? is the mount command not smart enough to figure that out? * as i read it, nfsv4 no longer requires portmapper, rpc.mountd, rpc.lockd or rpc.statd, which inspires the question -- if you're running *exclusively* NFSv4, is there any reason to even *start* those last three daemons? i ask since i'm looking at the startup script /etc/init.d/nfs, and the start argument is processed thusly: # See how we were called. case $1 in start) # Check that networking is up. [ ${NETWORKING} != yes ] exit 6 [ -x /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd ] || exit 5 [ -x /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd ] || exit 5 [ -x /usr/sbin/exportfs ] || exit 5 ... snip ... the problem, of course, is that if you're running exclusively NFSv4, what's the point of checking for the existence of /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd if you have no need to run it? and that same startup sequence invokes rpc.mountd later, again unnecessarily. and as i mentioned in an earlier posting, if i make this change to /etc/sysconfig/nfs: MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no then when i run service nfs restart, i get: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[ OK ] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] # debugging the call to start rpc.mountd shows it being invoked with the following args: --no-nfs-version 1 --no-nfs-version 2 --no-nfs-version 3 which i would have *thought* is what i wanted to see. apparently not. in conclusion, what capability *should* i expect from NFSv4 on fedora 12? can't i even *start* it without supporting earlier versions? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
wine dxdiag - shows nothing
Hi there. Recently, I've used Gentoo and runs Wine for games on it. But now, I switched to Fedora 12 x86_64. I've installed wine successfuly: %# yum instal wine.i686 After that, I've installed directx9 and gecko with winetricks script. Set up wine is OK: %# winecfg Some win-programs already works. Then, I need to test graphics: %# wine dxdiag But, this command shows nothing. Exit code ($?) is 0 (which means everything ok). What to do? I cannot play games with wine-directx on Fedora, but can on Gentoo. I've fell in love with Fedora and don't want to switch back. P.S. Are you playing win-games in Fedora? -- )\._.,--,'``. /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: random lockups when using Firefox
On 01/03/2010 12:41 AM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/1/3 Julian C. Dunn li...@aquezada.com: Hi, I have a F12 box that periodically locks up solid when visiting certain Flash-based sites in Firefox. There are usually no odd messages found in /var/log/messages to indicate what went wrong, except a couple of days ago, after a crash, I found this: Dec 29 13:01:50 jupiter kernel: [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* --SNIP-- Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this? Do you have desktop effects enabled? Nope, I don't. - Julian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
graphical login screen
On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a graphical login screen, How do I change the users showed on the screen, I see users, but no root, I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root. Thanks Chip -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: graphical login screen
On 10-01-03 14:49:14, Ralph Blach wrote: On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a graphical login screen, How do I change the users showed on the screen, I see users, but no root, I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root. It would be foolish to log in graphically as root. Don't do it. Log in in text mode as root by switching to a different Virtual Terminal with Ctrl-Shift-F2 (F1 to F6, F7 or sometimes F1 is the X session). From a graphical login, either use the normal graphical tools and authenticate from time to time, or open a terminal and `su -` to become root there. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: graphical login screen
On 01/03/2010 02:49 PM, Ralph Blach wrote: On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a graphical login screen, How do I change the users showed on the screen, I see users, but no root, I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root. I believe you can have them all on or turn them all off (except 'other') but cannot just show one user. As for root - I'll let others answer - see past long threads - it was turned off intentionally but there is a way to allow root to gracphically login if you really want it. (Tho why you'd ever need this is beyond me. I've used linux for many many years, and never once needed a graphical root login. If you want the control you seek - you may want to try kdm instead of gdm. You can still use gnome desktop with kdm. I am not recommending this one way or another - I am an ex kde user. kde was so wonderfully configurable ... but somehow they shot themselves in the foot and lost a huge number of users alng the way and seem to be struggling to regain their user base. Even Linus himself switched to Gnome .. after criticizing gnome for its lack of configurabilty for a few years .. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9126619/Q_A_Linux_founder_Linus_Torvalds_talks_about_open_source_identity?taxonomyName=Software Good luck .. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KDE 4.3.4 global keyboard shortcuts not saving
I changed the Show Menu for the Plasma Workspace to META-W and it only works during the session but when I logout and login, my changes does not save. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Enna media center on Fedora?
Media Center support for Fedora is currently really lacking when compared to Ubuntu, so when I saw announcement of new Media Center called Enna based on Mplayer I hope that it comes to a Fedora repository near me ;) Read more about it here: http://gxben.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/first-public-enna-0-4-0-release/ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Nzg1NA ps. I would love to also see XBMC in Fedora repositories... Cheers! -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, msn: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: random lockups when using Firefox
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:40:32 -0500 Julian C. Dunn wrote: Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this? Do you have desktop effects enabled? Nope, I don't. There are certainly radeon bugs out there. For instance: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387 You might want to check yout /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file from the crash to see if there is a similar backtrace in there to the on in the above bugzilla. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing GNOME default directories
Yes, I tried! But I can't find anything in it! Just blame this on my age. I thought I understood what you wanted to do in your original post. Now I am clueless. What do you mean by the position of the Gnome default directories? ate/MailingListGuidelines Blame on your age, but on my English as well! ;) I'd like to change the destination of the default GNOME directories : the directories like Videos,Music, Documents.. ( I'm using GNOME in Italian, so the original name, maybe, are a little different). Usually their definition is in the file ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and the file is there! Here a couple of lines: [snip] XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/Scrivania XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/Musica [snip] But if I change the values, for example: XDG_MUSIC_DIR=/Dati/Mp3 The change is not detected, even after a logout. Maybe I could use sym links, but,IMHO, is not the clean answer! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kde problems
Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun from my backup and logout/login with no result. An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system. I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be appreciated. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing GNOME default directories
change /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf to enabled=False Then I deleted the Videos, Pictures, Music, Documents, Public, etc, which I do not want in the first place. Thanks Henk, but this is not what I want! I'd like to have them, but with the right values! Maybe, I could disable, delete them, and using bookmarks, but it's like a workaround! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:05 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: [] If you want to pay for Support, then something like here: http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company) Do they support Alpine?? Several million people at last count (I for one) still consider it the only mailer worth installing. I always get rid of any others -- especially any form of webmail, which I happen to detest with a passion. Rackspace seems to take webmail for granted, though -- always and only webmail. They do say at one point ... or any other POP/IMAP client. But it doesn't sound very convincing in context. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nut 0 vs F10 winner
Gene Heskett wrote: this is fun of working to different threads of near same topic from same person. Sorry about that, if you were handy I'd buy you a beer see if we can get confused together. :) scotch and water, or an aggravation. [that is an actual drink] what is more fun is similar topics from 2 different people. ;) Now that I think begins to have the flavor of a bug. not always. sometimes it is 2 people going about the same wrong way. :) I did find a gui that sorta works, knutclient-0.9.5.tar.gz. Its not 100% but well enough to see if everything is healthy. you should have them in repo. what i pulled to get file list is for f-12, but it should be in f-10 and f-11. btw, what version are you using? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Need usb troubleshoting tool
Gene Heskett wrote: Attached. well, it was really for you to see. anyway, a file of name '*.cgi' is for use in a web browser, and not a true command line executable. even tho it was found by 'locate stat|grep bin/'. my bad for not explaining it mo' betta than, you do not run a '.cgi' from a shell. run man 8 upsstats.cgi to see what it is for. 'man' should have explained it for you. i do not have this man page so i can not run it to see what it says. :( All from tarballs since the rpms are too old to deal with this 2+ year old ups, with paths corrected well enough it now runs, except for a fail report from upsdrvctl when starting the init.d/ups script, which works, but reports a FAIL. And it was configured with all optional pieces, built and installed. even with ups being 2+ years old, you should be able to pull what you need and use it in a current version. or is this what you did? not sure from above. primarily what you would need is the communications that are used to receive and send to ups, so they should work. also, please excuse my delay in replying. i have been cleaning up and rebuild my archive drive so i can get things restored. what is taken so long is that i made changes to how i do archiving, and i am trying to clean up duped files and directories that have been moved around and even renamed. i need a good dupe file finder. later. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?
2010/1/3 BeartoothHOS bearto...@comcast.net: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:05 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: [] If you want to pay for Support, then something like here: http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company) Do they support Alpine?? It supports POP3 and IMAP, so I can't see why not. Several million people at last count (I for one) still consider it the only mailer worth installing. I always get rid of any others -- especially any form of webmail, which I happen to detest with a passion. Rackspace seems to take webmail for granted, though -- always and only webmail. They do say at one point ... or any other POP/IMAP client. But it doesn't sound very convincing in context. Considering that one of Mailtrust's (the Rackspace Division that does this) employees is the lead developer of Dovecot, I would expect it to work. http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/blog/2009/02/creator_of_dovecot_joins_mailt/ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wrong page format Avery A4 labels. [SOLVED]
On 30/12/09 00:54, Erik P. Olsen wrote: My environment is OpenOffice 3.1.1 on Linux, Fedora 12. The scenario is the following: 1. File - New - Labels 2. Select Brand: Avery A4 and Type: L7160 Press New Document 3. Format - Page 4. As you may see the page format is set to User which has a geometry different from A4. If the final labels are printed with page format User they come out wrongly. If, however, the page format is changed to A4, printing is correct. This happens every time I make new labels, Sometimes I forget to set the page format to A4 and consequently ruin a whole bunch of labels. I bet there must be a way to change this silly default but I haven't been able to find how. Maybe it's a bug. Who knows? Just to let you all know that the problem seems to be printer related. On my HP LaserJet 2200 the label sheets print wrongly as mentioned above. But when I print using my colour printer HP Photosmart 8450 they print correctly. Thanks to Peter Hillier-Brook who somehow forced me into trying this other printer. -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Dying hard drive? Bad installation media? -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wrong page format Avery A4 labels. [SOLVED]
Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com writes: On 30/12/09 00:54, Erik P. Olsen wrote: My environment is OpenOffice 3.1.1 on Linux, Fedora 12. The scenario is the following: 1. File - New - Labels 2. Select Brand: Avery A4 and Type: L7160 Press New Document 3. Format - Page 4. As you may see the page format is set to User which has a geometry different from A4. If the final labels are printed with page format User they come out wrongly. If, however, the page format is changed to A4, printing is correct. This happens every time I make new labels, Sometimes I forget to set the page format to A4 and consequently ruin a whole bunch of labels. I bet there must be a way to change this silly default but I haven't been able to find how. Maybe it's a bug. Who knows? Just to let you all know that the problem seems to be printer related. On my HP LaserJet 2200 the label sheets print wrongly as mentioned above. But when I print using my colour printer HP Photosmart 8450 they print correctly. FWIW, we've been using an HP Photosmart 8450 for about 2 months and really like it. It works well with Fedora. -- Randy Yates % How's life on earth? Digital Signal Labs % ... What is it worth? mailto://ya...@ieee.org % 'Mission (A World Record)', http://www.digitalsignallabs.com % *A New World Record*, ELO -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Also having NFSv4 problems
I have mirrors of several repositories a 1TB hardware raid array mounted as /pub on a RHEL54 server. I want to locally export that to several F12 laptops and desktop machines on a gigabit home network using nfs4. I'm having trouble getting F12 nfs4 clients to mount the exported directory on the RHEL54 server. The error I'm getting on the F12 client is: # mount -v -t nfs4 -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr lion:/pub /lion mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sun Jan 3 17:16:25 2010 mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.2,clientaddr=192.168.1.7' mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted Local details: RHEL54 server 'lion' = 192.168.1.2 /etc/exports = *(rw), owned by root, permissions 644 F12 laptop 'tiger' = 192.168.1.7 The server looks fine: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[ OK ] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: [ OK ] The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL.0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 22:53 -0500, KC8LDO wrote: Speaking about bogus resolvers, having the ISP's mess with DNS, is just the start of it. Wait until they get around to forcing people to install custom TCP/IP stacks that ONLY will work on their network as a means to monitor and control traffic. There is nothing the FCC has done that excludes this option. The FCC has no control whatsoever over Internet protocols, particularly outside the USA. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gthumb problems
I have a Nikon D70s camera. I also have an external USB smart card reader Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0b97:7762 O2 Micro, Inc. Oz776 SmartCard Reader When I plug the 4GB SanDisk from my Nikon into the card reader it mounts the disk and puts an icon on my desktop. When I double click on the icon it brings up a file browser. It identifies the contents as being digital photos and there is a button on the file browser to start the gthumb photo import tool. Clicking on this button does not bring up gthumb. When I look in my .xsession-errors file I find the following: (nautilus:2163): Nautilus-GDU-WARNING **: unable to query info: The specified location is not supported handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged') handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged') handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged') handle_message(member:'NameOwnerChanged') D70S; exec gthumb --import-photos: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `' D70S; exec gthumb --import-photos: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file The same problem occurs if I attach the camera directly to the PC. The actual mount point is /media/NIKON D70S Note the space between the NIKON and the D70S. It looks like the file browser is choking on the space since it is showing D70S rather than NIKON D70S. This all worked fine under F11. Once the device is mounted I can run gthumb manually on the mount point to import the files. Paolo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 00:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 22:53 -0500, KC8LDO wrote: Speaking about bogus resolvers, having the ISP's mess with DNS, is just the start of it. Wait until they get around to forcing people to install custom TCP/IP stacks that ONLY will work on their network as a means to monitor and control traffic. There is nothing the FCC has done that excludes this option. The FCC has no control whatsoever over Internet protocols, particularly outside the USA. The tinfoil helmet brigade is getting restless. ;-P --Doc Savage -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:02:03 -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: I have mirrors of several repositories a 1TB hardware raid array mounted as /pub on a RHEL54 server. I want to locally export that to several F12 laptops and desktop machines on a gigabit home network using nfs4. I'm having trouble getting F12 nfs4 clients to mount the exported directory on the RHEL54 server. The error I'm getting on the F12 client is: # mount -v -t nfs4 -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr lion:/pub /lion mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sun Jan 3 17:16:25 2010 mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.2,clientaddr=192.168.1.7' mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted Local details: RHEL54 server 'lion' = 192.168.1.2 /etc/exports = *(rw), owned by root, permissions 644 F12 laptop 'tiger' = 192.168.1.7 The server looks fine: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: [ OK ] The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services: [FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL.0 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8 META NAME=GENERATOR CONTENT=GtkHTML/3.16.3 /HEAD BODY I have mirrors of several repositories a 1TB hardware raid array mounted as /pub on a RHEL54 server. I want to locally export that to several F12 laptops and desktop machines on a gigabit home network using nfs4. I'm having trouble getting F12 nfs4 clients to mount the exported directory on the RHEL54 server. The error I'm getting on the F12 client is:BR BR BLOCKQUOTE PRE FONT SIZE=1# mount -v -t nfs4 -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr lion:/pub /lion/FONT FONT SIZE=1mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sun Jannbsp; 3 17:16:25 2010/FONT FONT SIZE=1mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.2,clientaddr=192.168.1.7'/ FONT FONT SIZE=1mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted/FONT FONT SIZE=1mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted/FONT /PRE /BLOCKQUOTE Local details:BR RHEL54 server 'lion' = 192.168.1.2BR /etc/exports = *(rw), owned by root, permissions 644BR F12 laptop 'tiger' = 192.168.1.7BR BR The server looks fine:BR BR BLOCKQUOTE PRE FONT SIZE=1# service nfs restart/FONT FONT SIZE=1Shutting down NFS mountd:nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; [nbsp; OKnbsp; ]/FONT FONT SIZE=1Shutting down NFS daemon:nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; [nbsp; OKnbsp; ]/FONT FONT SIZE=1Shutting down NFS
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup - I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml definitions from when they were created. Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log to a .xml file. Thanks for help! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: random lockups when using Firefox
On 01/03/2010 04:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:40:32 -0500 Julian C. Dunn wrote: Could there be some bug with the radeon driver that is causing this? Do you have desktop effects enabled? Nope, I don't. There are certainly radeon bugs out there. For instance: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387 You might want to check yout /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file from the crash to see if there is a similar backtrace in there to the on in the above bugzilla. Thanks Tom -- it seems to be the same issue. - Julian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 09:37 AM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Dying hard drive? Bad installation media? -c No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au: No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 00:42 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: On the client side just install and run autofs. Then, from any client cd /net/lion/pub and you're there. No need for cryptic mount commands in /etc/fstab (although, of course, you can go that way too, if you want). The automounter will do the work for you, on demand. Well, slap my momma on the a$$!! That works, but /net/lion/pub isn't quite where I'd wanted the mount to appear. If I put the following line in /etc/fstab: lion:/pub /lion nfs4 rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 0 I wonder why I can't manually mount the nfs-exported directory in /lion, which is owned by root:root and permissions 755?? I appreciate automount's almost magical capabilities, but I'd sure like to know why the old fashioned way no longer works. I'm old school in stuff like this. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: ... snip ... The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services: [FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [ -d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs. apparently, that causes the problem so you should try this: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no weirdly, that fixes that last problem. why should that be? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE
2010/1/2 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: We (fedora-kde sig) would be more interested in this if there were more effort to push such integration to mozilla upstream. As far as I'm aware, there is very little to date. (ie, I personally wouldn't be too interested in trying to maintain something like this that doesn't have good/broad support by mozilla developers too). FYI, although there's nothing to report yet, there is a bug track entered upstream here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528510; -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/03/2010 09:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote: Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? -c Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the partition. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
Hi Gene, 2010/1/3 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the partition. Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server
All - To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own. I am not pirating, I am just trying to get all my DVDs onto a media server I am building instead of having them strewn all over the entertainment center. Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen. It apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed. I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g). What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer, copy-protected DVDs under Linux? -- Thomas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem - installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the 'real' driver jumps in and craps out. I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server
On 01/03/2010 08:29 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: All - To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own. I am not pirating, I am just trying to get all my DVDs onto a media server I am building instead of having them strewn all over the entertainment center. Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen. It apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed. I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g). What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer, copy-protected DVDs under Linux? Newest thing I have is Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Copied fine with F11 and K3B 1.0.5. I haven't seen anything about any new copy protection schemes. Maybe you should post what you actually used to rip and the version numbers. Regards, John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
control-C and yum update
A quick question which is hopefully just an education request ... While reinstalling f12 on a machine that I messed up, I was following all my notes and directions and reached the point where the install was successful and it was time to update. I did a su -l and then typed yum update. I realized I had forgotten something and immediately did a control-C in the terminal that I had executed the yum update. To my surprise, it ignored it until it got to the first confirm and then proceeded to kill the process. No problem as the update was stopped but ... I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. Am I missing something about either control-C or yum update .. or both? Thanks in advance for any explanation as I am wondering if I really understand control-C Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
Hi Gene, On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote: Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files. Holy smoke - you're right!! I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!! Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever? Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines. I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help command'. Thank you! I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And Happy New Year to all. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update question
While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into computer that has mail so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be getting too old. But I can't figure out how I am decipher this message into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is missing in my firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another machine and do not see these warnings. IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand these messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I can't complain until I understand this warning. Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: ... snip ... The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [ -d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs. apparently, that causes the problem so you should try this: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no weirdly, that fixes that last problem. why should that be? Robert, Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking. Thanks. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: control-C and yum update
2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu: I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it straight away: Ctrl+z kill %1 -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: ... snip ... The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [ -d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs. apparently, that causes the problem so you should try this: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no weirdly, that fixes that last problem. why should that be? Robert, Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking. Thanks. i'll start with submitting the above rpc.mountd error(?) to bugzilla. it seems pretty clear that *needing* NFSv1 support simply to *start* rpc.mountd makes no sense. but there's still another issue related to this. as i read it, NFSv4 now incorporates the mount operation in the protocol, and i read that as saying that you don't even *need* a running rpc.mountd anymore if you restrict yourself to NFSv4. however, the earlier emailer wrote the following: My understanding is that mountd, statd etc are still needed but they do not need to be exposed to the outside world. That is, you can limit all of them in /etc/hosts.allow to 127.0.0.1 and only open port 2049 on the firewall. so does anyone know for sure? in any event, i'll bugzilla that earlier error. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: control-C and yum update
Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu: I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it straight away: Ctrl+z kill %1 -c Chris: Got it ... this makes sense as there are jobs I run that I have to ps and then kill. If yum blocks until first y/N, it makes sense. Thanks, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: ... snip ... The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [ -d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs. apparently, that causes the problem so you should try this: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no weirdly, that fixes that last problem. why should that be? Robert, Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking. Thanks. i'll start with submitting the above rpc.mountd error(?) to bugzilla. it seems pretty clear that *needing* NFSv1 support simply to *start* rpc.mountd makes no sense. but there's still another issue related to this. as i read it, NFSv4 now incorporates the mount operation in the protocol, and i read that as saying that you don't even *need* a running rpc.mountd anymore if you restrict yourself to NFSv4. however, the earlier emailer wrote the following: My understanding is that mountd, statd etc are still needed but they do not need to be exposed to the outside world. That is, you can limit all of them in /etc/hosts.allow to 127.0.0.1 and only open port 2049 on the firewall. so does anyone know for sure? in any event, i'll bugzilla that earlier error. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. -- Chihuahuas drive me crazy. I can't stand anything that shivers when it's warm. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552144 feel free to add any further observations to that BZ. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively with NFSv4, no? if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i want to make sure that it's really an error first. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively with NFSv4, no? if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i want to make sure that it's really an error first. I suppose a case could be made for that either way. Seems rather minor to me. I've not yet had time to look a this stuff. However, is there any downside from starting rpc.mountd even if it isn't going to be used? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems ripping DVDs I legally own to my media server
On Monday 04 January 2010 04:29:37 Thomas Cameron wrote: To make clear - I am only doing this with DVDs I legally own. I always understood all this DVD ownership thing in the following way --- you own the disk itself (the hardware media, the cheap part), and you own the right to play it in your home (the expensive part). But you don't own the data on the disk (I guess that would be 8-digit expensive), and therefore are not allowed to make copies of it, even for yourself. I am not sure that this interpretation is correct, but you may want to reread and rethink the copyright clause of your DVD's and understand more precisely what exactly you do own and what you do not own. That said, I perfectly understand the need to backup those DVD's. If movie companies would provide a service of replacing original but broken (or worn off) media with new ones, free of charge (or only for the cost of media), life would be much easier. But unfortunately, movie companies are greedy enough to require you to buy not only two copies of the media (cheap), but also two copies of the right to play it (expensive) when your media wears off. As a user, the only legitimate option you have is the illegal one --- to break the law and copy the data... :-) Specifically, I tried to rip Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen. It apparently has some new copy protection scheme where it reports that it is 80 gigs, and every method I tried to decrypt them under Linux failed. In principle, every movie that can be played back on a computer can be copied on a hard disk (think of capturing the screen on every frame). So the real question is --- can you *play* the damn thing in Linux? If you can do a mplayer dvd:// and are able to watch it, then you can use mencoder to rip it. If you are not comfortable with command line, there are various GUI's for various encoders out there that can make things easier. I wound up having to fire up my dusty old Windows box and use Ideal DVD Copy to rip them successfully (http://tinyurl.com/yg8269g). Do you want to rip the DVD or to copy it? These things are not quite the same. Making an exact copy of the DVD may not be so easy, if at all possible. The manufacturer may intentionally implement hardware errors in the media, with the idea to check if those errors are present during playback (thus determining if the copy is legal or not). Those things are not easy to reproduce. OTOH, ripping is the procedure of re-recording the data that is being played. Provided that you are able to play the movie at all, this can always be done. What, if anything, are you using to make legit backups of your newer, copy-protected DVDs under Linux? If I want to rip the movie, I use mencoder. And I tweak the custom detailed options for every particular movie in order to get the best rip. If I want to copy the DVD, I usually use dd to create an .iso file. While the .iso is on the hard disk, I always loop mount it and check if the movie is playable from there (ie that there are no nasty copy-protection schemes involved). If it is, good. If it is not, I try to understand why, tweak the dd options a little in order to get it right, etc. If I fail or tweaking takes too much time, I give up and rip the movie instead. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On Sunday 03 January 2010 21:22:32 david walcroft wrote: I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun from my backup and logout/login with no result. An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system. I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be appreciated. Ok, how about this: create a new, dummy user, and log into that account (into KDE, of course). Check that everything is ok, logout, log back in. Is it the same? Do you still see the error message? If the dummy user works as expected, then something in your old settings in ~/.kde.old is making KDE unhappy. If the dummy user doesn't work, then there is some deeper problem and it needs troubleshooting. My idea would be to read the system and KDE log files, and look for errors and warnings. Or to switch to runlevel 3, do a startx, reproduce the error, read the output from the terminal. Or to do a strace or something, to see what app is trying to access /usr/bin/autorun. Incidentally, I don't have /usr/bin/autorun on my system, and it runs KDE just fine. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively with NFSv4, no? if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i want to make sure that it's really an error first. I suppose a case could be made for that either way. Seems rather minor to me. I've not yet had time to look a this stuff. However, is there any downside from starting rpc.mountd even if it isn't going to be used? i don't know. and it's not only rpc.mountd. as i read it, rpc.statd *also* becomes superfluous. and if there's no reason to run a daemon, i see no point in running it. why waste the cycles? also, the fact that you're (unnecessarily) running rpc.mountd and rpc.statd might, in some weird way, support NFSv3 operations. if you're not running those, it's pretty much a *guarantee* that you're supporting only NFSv4, no? think of it as a sanity check. (and remember my earlier bit where someone claimed that you *do* need to be running them, they just don't need to be available to the outside world so you don't need to allow them through the firewall.) in any event, i just want to clarify the situation since i've seen two apparently differing explanations. rday p.s. just FYI, i didn't plan on this discussion getting quite so animated. :-) i figured getting a simple NFSv4 example running on f12 would be a piece of cake. apparently, not quite. -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update question
On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote: While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into computer that has mail so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] Did you also get the message like: Processing delta metadata /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed delta does not match installed data or similar, somewhere in the early stages of the update process (before the actual installing of .rpm's)? If yes, then you have probably hit this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901 In short, those warnings are harmless and you are pretty safe to ignore them. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F13 Schedule - question!
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:02:36AM -0500, Mel Chua wrote: On 12/21/2009 03:01 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On poelcat's F13 draft schedule (see: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13-draft/f-13-marketing-tasks.html), tasks 13 and 15 are to update / freeze the Fedora tour page. Since we're doing the one-page release notes in lieu of the Fedora tour page, should we remove those tasks from the schedule (I'm assuming so...)? Yes. Should the one-page release notes draft / completion dates be rearranged to be more in line with when the Fedora tour pages were done, or are we comfortable with those dates and how they fall into the grander scheme of things? The completion dates for the one-page/tour as we have them right now are good, but this was a good sanity check to run. Also - shall we put a note on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours reflecting that we now do one-pg release notes instead of Tours, so that anyone looking for a Tour isn't wondering why the heck we didn't have one for F12 (or F13, and so forth)? Yes! We should do this when we revise the SOPs. Thanks for bringing this up, Robyn - I think we're shaping up to have a really solid F13 schedule. Now all we have to do is clean up Trac. :) Late, but +1 to Robyn's suggestion on eliminating confusion with a link. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Openoffice.org EOL announcement
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:47:00PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi I like the FAQ they have in the EOL announcement. Fedora could learn from this. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=407 I added this link to the EOL SOP currently under development: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP I also added a link to that page on the main EOL page so it would be easier for you or anyone else to help contribute directly to it. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!
(from https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html) On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) = I like this Fedora 12 one page release notes - A very professional looking page. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes = I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' F12 release slogan - Unite. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan = I have made an update for Fedora 13 Goddard - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables for the F13 release slogan - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan Thanks for making the page, David! We'll be making the big help us pick a slogan! public call for participation in February (see task #5 in http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html) but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fwd: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should we look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to get Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or (2) SEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at some point? --Mel Original Message Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500 From: Michael Tiemann tiem...@redhat.com Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1. By hostile I mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern versions of Mac OSX. The installation process went perfectly smoothly until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the GPT has a bootable flag that needed to be reset. I reset the flag, and then grub failed. Some googling led me to question whether my ext4 boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly thereafter. WIN! What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power users, you might ask? I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive search result. Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu. If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing field. Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) to treat Linux like Fedora? M -- GPG Key: F0AD 3368 D24A 56CD A2AD 6A12 CAB3 2E89 EA0A C0E4 The structure of world peace cannot be the work of one man, or one party, or one nation...it must be a peace which rests on the cooperative effort of the whole world. -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt Part of the tragedy is of the artist is that there is no real goal in achieving what you are naturally good at. The real satisfaction lies in the things you accomplish by practice and effort. -- Joris van den Berg, commenting on the death of H. Cartier Bresson Dream so big you can share -- me -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!
Fun! I filled in my placeholder for my idea from when I built the template page, since I couldn't contain it anymore. Rock it! ;) On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: (from https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html) On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) = I like this Fedora 12 one page release notes - A very professional looking page. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes = I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' F12 release slogan - Unite. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan = I have made an update for Fedora 13 Goddard - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables for the F13 release slogan - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan Thanks for making the page, David! We'll be making the big help us pick a slogan! public call for participation in February (see task #5 in http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html) but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
A few first blush thoughts, I'll think more on this though: 1) Tiemann's idea on setting preferences to treat linux as fedora is interesting. One problem I can see with that is that if the browser with the preferences is, say, not yet installed because the user is going through some process similar to what he's went through below, and they happen to be a first-time user or this is (or going to be) their only Fedora machine, then they're defaulting to going and using google on their other machine, which isn't going to have those preferences anyhow. 2) Unless we make the distinction -VERY VERY- clear when people are installing that we are going to be slightly altering their google results via some set preference, I could see a lot of community uproar over this, particularly from developers who are developing / testing on multiple platforms, who don't necessarily want to have fedora-tuned results. 3) All that said - rather than changing preferences, doing something like a Fedora toolbar that is a plug-in to the browser might be a better idea. We could probably include a google search box that would tune search results, links to community stuff like mailing lists and documentation, etc. (And Fedora Insight!) We could recommend that people install it (a) when they're installing the Fedora OS, and/or (b) when they're downloading it, quite possibly from a machine that is -not- the machine they will be installing it on, and would be the machine they would be consulting in the very unlikely situation that they do not have a flawless installation. :) ie: Installing Fedora? We don't anticipate that you'll need our help. But if you do, this toolbar has the magic. 4) SEO -never- hurts. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should we look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to get Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or (2) SEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at some point? --Mel Original Message Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500 From: Michael Tiemann tiem...@redhat.com Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1. By hostile I mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern versions of Mac OSX. The installation process went perfectly smoothly until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the GPT has a bootable flag that needed to be reset. I reset the flag, and then grub failed. Some googling led me to question whether my ext4 boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly thereafter. WIN! What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power users, you might ask? I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive search result. Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu. If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing field. Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) to treat Linux like Fedora? M -- GPG Key: F0AD 3368 D24A 56CD A2AD 6A12 CAB3 2E89 EA0A C0E4 The structure of world peace cannot be the work of one man, or one party, or one nation...it must be a peace which rests on the cooperative effort of the whole world. -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt Part of the tragedy is of the artist is that there is no real goal in achieving what you are naturally good at. The real satisfaction lies in the things you accomplish by practice and effort. -- Joris van den Berg, commenting on the death of H. Cartier Bresson Dream so big you can share -- me -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com
[Bug 551988] New: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551988 Summary: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: ppc64 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: perl-Math-Pari AssignedTo: p...@city-fan.org ReportedBy: jwbo...@gmail.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: p...@city-fan.org, fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Description of problem: perl-Math-Pari-2.010806-3.fc13 fails to build for ppc64. It seems one of the testcases run during the build fails. This same package builds for 32-bit ppc just fine. Logs here: http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=43641 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
[Bug 552105] New: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552105 Summary: cpanspec treats recommended dependencies to required Product: Fedora Version: 11 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: cpanspec AssignedTo: st...@silug.org ReportedBy: t...@tim-landscheidt.de QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: st...@silug.org, fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Created an attachment (id=381464) -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=381464) Patch to ignore recommends dependencies. With cpanspec 1.78, META.yml's recommends dependencies are treated as requires ones. That is way too harsh and easily requires many more package updates than ordinarily necessary. The attached patch fixes this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Request For Linux CD (or) DVD
*Respected Sir*, I am Student in SRM UNVI in Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R. My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD, My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to You Free CD (or) DVD. So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my request. *yours obediently*, Kumareshwar.R No.99 Near Railway Gate Deviyakurichi (Po) Attur (Tk) Salem(Dt) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Request For Linux CD (or) DVD
*Respected Sir*, I am Student in SRM UNVI in Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R. My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD, My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to You Free CD (or) DVD. So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my request. * your's obediently,* Kumareshwar.R No.99 Near Railway Gate Deviyakurichi (Po) Attur (Tk) Salem(Dt) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Request For Linux CD (or) DVD
Hi Kumareshwar, Pls read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia You must request media from the Free Media Formin bellow https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Kumareshwar Rajamanickam ligh...@gmail.comwrote: *Respected Sir*, I am Student in SRM UNVI in Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R. My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD, My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to You Free CD (or) DVD. So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my request. fedora-websites list is not for media distribution. Btw, you are not poor as long as you are having good knowledge the talent ;-) Have a nice day dosth. :) Danishka *yours obediently*, Kumareshwar.R No.99 Near Railway Gate Deviyakurichi (Po) Attur (Tk) Salem(Dt) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Request For Linux CD (or) DVD
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kumareshwar, Pls read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia You must request media from the Free Media Formin bellow https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Kumareshwar Rajamanickam ligh...@gmail.com wrote: Respected Sir, I am Student in SRM UNVI in Chennai at Tamilnadu of India .My name is Kumareshwar.R. My Family is very poor to buy Linux CD (or) DVD, My friends told to me, request to Fedora organisation, they Send to You Free CD (or) DVD. So please,kindly Send Reply to my Request.I hope accepting my request. fedora-websites list is not for media distribution. Btw, you are not poor as long as you are having good knowledge the talent ;-) Have a nice day dosth. :) Danishka yours obediently, Kumareshwar.R No.99 Near Railway Gate Deviyakurichi (Po) Attur (Tk) Salem(Dt) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list You should be able to get the CD's from the media request form as mentioned above :) and we are all poor, the only rich person is the one who made us all :D -- Regards, Vikram Dhillon ~~~ There are lots of Linux users who don't care how the kernel works, but only want to use it. That is a tribute to how good Linux is. -- Linus Torvalds -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list