Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
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oleksandr korneta wrote:

> on 07/25/2009 11:46 AM Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions 
(Logical
>> Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1.
>> 
> 
> interesting idea. Do you keep the same home for both?
> 
> I don't do upgrades either, since the time rh9 to fc1 didn't 
work for
> me. But I dont complain, kind of got used to the idea that 
fedora is not
> made for upgrades. However, fresh install every time takes too 
much time
> for  deploying all the old tweaked configs and stuff... so I 
switch
> between versions just once a year, from f N to f n+2, keeping 
two
> consequent  version of fedora on two different machines.

Since it seems everyone else is posting their setups, why not.

I have two machines, one leading (L) and the other "dragging" 
behind (D). L jumps ship to rawhide soon after rawhide while D 
chugs along on current release updates and cherry picks from 
updates-testing if necessary to fix things. D is usually used 
via VNC. All of the actual work is done on D and testing new 
stuff on L. So I just keep a full /home on D and a bare one on 
L.

- --Ben
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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Ben Boeckel
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Farkas Levente wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox 
 wrote:
> 
>> "all of my system has a wrong openssl version"
>>
>> all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly 
wrong. I've seen
>> preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's 
the main reason
>> I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.
>>
> 
> i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half 
upgrade then  it's
> also the bug of the installer.
> 
> 
>> "i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! 
just one month
>> after the release! my system consist of 2059"
>>
>> In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first 
place, it just
>> updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to 
do. You were
>> basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.
> 
> 
> as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a 
few things then
> it's also the bug of the installer.

This is a problem with the DVD that is hard to solve. Fully 
updated F10 is newer than F11 was when the DVD was spun 
(especially when the DVD is a month old)...so not everything got 
updated. There was a thread on it earlier on this list. It 
either breaks other things to fix or the DVD is just broken to 
update from after X days of release.

- --Ben
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