Texlive schemes?
Hi all, after texlive 2009 crashed my latex compiling process one day before I wanted to print my dipl-thesis (kpsewhich hanging indefinitely), I erased all texlive* files. From my last installation experience I learned that installing only texlive leaves you with a non-working system (for my needs), so I wanted to simplify things by installing the full or medium scheme. [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ LC_ALL=C sudo yum install texlive-scheme-full Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process No package texlive-scheme-full available. Nothing to do Shouldn't that work? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Texlive schemes?
Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 11:45 +0100 schrieb Christoph Höger: Hi all, after texlive 2009 crashed my latex compiling process one day before I wanted to print my dipl-thesis (kpsewhich hanging indefinitely), I erased all texlive* files. From my last installation experience I learned that installing only texlive leaves you with a non-working system (for my needs), so I wanted to simplify things by installing the full or medium scheme. [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ LC_ALL=C sudo yum install texlive-scheme-full Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process No package texlive-scheme-full available. Nothing to do Shouldn't that work? Ok, basically it looks like _everything_ is broken currently. e.g.: [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ LC_ALL=C sudo yum install texlive-bibtex-bin Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package texlive-bibtex-bin.x86_64 0:2009-2.16044.fc12 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive-bibtex = 2009 for package: texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 -- Processing Dependency: texlive = 2009 for package: texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 -- Processing Dependency: libkpathsea.so.5()(64bit) for package: texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 -- Running transaction check --- Package texlive.x86_64 0:2009-3.20091219.fc12 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive-scheme-basic for package: texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 -- Processing Dependency: texlive-collection-latexrecommended for package: texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 --- Package texlive-bibtex-bin.x86_64 0:2009-2.16044.fc12 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive-bibtex = 2009 for package: texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 --- Package texlive-kpathsea-lib.x86_64 0:2009-3.20091219.fc12 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 from texlive has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive-collection-latexrecommended is needed by package texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 from texlive has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive-scheme-basic is needed by package texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 from texlive has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive-bibtex = 2009 is needed by package texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-scheme-basic is needed by package texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-collection-latexrecommended is needed by package texlive-2009-3.20091219.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-bibtex = 2009 is needed by package texlive-bibtex-bin-2009-2.16044.fc12.x86_64 (texlive) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Texlive schemes?
Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 15:09 +0100 schrieb Jindrich Novy: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi all, after texlive 2009 crashed my latex compiling process one day before I wanted to print my dipl-thesis (kpsewhich hanging indefinitely), I erased all texlive* files. From my last installation experience I learned that installing only texlive leaves you with a non-working system (for my needs), so I wanted to simplify things by installing the full or medium scheme. [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ LC_ALL=C sudo yum install texlive-scheme-full Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process No package texlive-scheme-full available. Nothing to do Shouldn't that work? Confirmed. I rewrote the the upstream - Fedora repo script from scratch where an error occured. It is fixed so please try again now. Installation seems to work now, but the installation of texlive-kpathsea-2009-3.16044.fc12.noarch (and possibly much more packages) hangs because kpsewhich hangs forever (using 100% cpu). Do you have any clue whats going on? Any chance to get this fixed before christmas? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Delay measuring
Am Donnerstag, den 10.12.2009, 23:34 +1100 schrieb David Timms: On 12/10/2009 10:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:46 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: for a long time now firefox annoys me now and then with second-long delay when entering a new URL in the URL-bar. When was the first time you noticed that (ie what firefox verasion) ? It came with ff3 and its awesomebar. I am pretty sure this is some kind of system resource it waits for or some other process. Is there any sane way to start an application and measure all those wait syscalls to see what resource causes this delay? Something like a strace wrapper script or so... I hope someone understands what I mean ;) Sounds like you might have the IPv6 issue other people have mentioned. See the list archive for how to turn it off. Could be. But I think it is that firefox now does a JSON lookup on the web, and while it waits for a response to load, it incorrectly pauses the UI. A wireshark packet capture would be enough to test that theory. The wireshark idea is good, but this will take some time. I'll send the results then. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Writn a slash in Evolution
Am Donnerstag, den 10.12.2009, 02:58 -0500 schrieb Marcel Rieux: If you start a new message in Evolution and go under Format, you will see that the slash switches from Plain text to HTML. And if you press the slash / character, great it works! How do you write a slash ? That way: /// No, really: I don't have that shortcut here, it does not look like being on by default. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Delay measuring
Hi, for a long time now firefox annoys me now and then with second-long delay when entering a new URL in the URL-bar. I am pretty sure this is some kind of system resource it waits for or some other process. Is there any sane way to start an application and measure all those wait syscalls to see what resource causes this delay? Something like a strace wrapper script or so... I hope someone understands what I mean ;) regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recent texlive anyone?
Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 00:40 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lehtola: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 18:43 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, has anybody seen some rpm packaging for the current texlive distribution? Since fedora switched over things look stalled. Have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org Nice. You've saved my diploma thesis. Btw.: Is it intentional that installing texlive leaves you without anything usable (fonts, epstopdf etc.)? And floatflt does not work anymore. regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Slow gnome startup with compiz enabled
Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 11:38 -0600 schrieb Dan Burkland: Hi all, I've noticed that when starting gnome up for the first time after boot it takes at least 10 seconds before I can navigate the desktop. I have enabled compiz using the System=Preferences=Desktop Effects menu. I have tried re-enabling metacity and that seems to solve the problem. Has anybody else noticed this and possibly found a way to speed up the load times with compiz enabled? Yep. Same for me too. Since f12, I noticed a huge boot delay (I did not measure but would say 20s). This only happens on my laptop (intel) and not on my desktop (radeon experimental). I am going to test if disabling compiz will help. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Recent texlive anyone?
Hi,
has anybody seen some rpm packaging for the current texlive
distribution? Since fedora switched over things look stalled.
I am asking because I could really use the
\KOMAoption{listof}{leveldown} thing.
(So if anyone knows how to have the same effect in the old version ...)
regards
Christoph
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Evolution GPG signing with attachments
Hi all, did anybody else notice a enormous lag when sending signed emails with attachments since f12? For a 500k attachment it now takes about 20s to sign and send an email - on a decent machine. This seems to be definitely to much time. Were there any changes to the gpg chain? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Prius Gas Mileage
Am Mittwoch, den 25.11.2009, 22:44 -0500 schrieb Marcus D. Leech: On 11/25/2009 10:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Jonathan Ryshpan writes: The gas mileage on my Prius has slowly declined from about 40 mpg when I bought it in 2005 (2d hand, it's a 2004 model year) to about 35 mpg today. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas why? It could, of course, be just that I'm paying less attention to driving for good gas mileage, or have let the pressure in the tires go down, but I don't think so. Try upgrading your Prius' kernel to the latest version in updates. Perhaps one of the kernel performance measurement tools would be in order? Might have to translate from context-switches/sec to MPG, but that's what 'units' is for, right? Sounds like a perfect job for powertop to me. Did somebody port it over to this prius architecture (some kind of RISC?). signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Bug in python?
Hi, while I was investigating an offlineimap bug, the following happened quite often: File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 497, in __bootstrap self.__bootstrap_inner() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 575, in __bootstrap_inner self.__stop() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 586, in __stop self.__block.notify_all() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll self.notify(len(self.__waiters)) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note current_thread().name, format) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread return _DummyThread() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__ self._Thread__started.set() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set self.__cond.notify_all() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll self.notify(len(self.__waiters)) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note current_thread().name, format) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread return _DummyThread() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__ self._Thread__started.set() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set self.__cond.notify_all() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll self.notify(len(self.__waiters)) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note current_thread().name, format) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread return _DummyThread() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__ self._Thread__started.set() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set self.__cond.notify_all() File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll Looks to me like calling _DummyThread() every time and then printing a debug output is a bad idea, right? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
GPG Keys gone?
Hi, I've just logged in and lost my gpg keyring pubring empty, no keys in the keyring. How the heck can such thing happen? I was able to restore my key using seahorse, but wtf? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
GPG Keys gone?
Hi, I've just logged in and lost my gpg keyring pubring empty, no keys in the keyring. How the heck can such thing happen? I was able to restore my key using seahorse, but wtf? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how far from the arrive of evolution 2.28.1 for Fedora 12
Am Sonntag, den 22.11.2009, 23:10 +1100 schrieb L: Hi I am wonder how far from the arrival of evolution 2.28.1 in F12. One of main reasons to upgrade to F12, for me, is that F12 shipped with evo 2.28. People from Unbuntu use evo-2.28 (in fact evo 2.28.1) and evo-mapi to connect to exchange 2007. Unfortunately, current evo 2.28.0 can't connect to exchange 2007 (via evo-mapi). It crashes every time. Does any one know if F12 will upgrade evo 2.28.1 soon? best Y As you can see here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=175 It has already been build (so feel free to test manually), but since this is roughly one month old, I guess that somewhere along the gnome stack there must be some breakage that prevents an update - maybe you simply ask the maintainer or open a feature request to track the progress. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
abrt bugzilla reporting - does it work?
Hi, I just wanted to report an evolution crash report with abrt. All I get (besides a stacktrace) is libcurl failed HTTP Post. Since I suspect that libcurl generally can handle HTTP posts, I wonder if this is some general bug in abrt? Did anybody submit bugs successfully using this tool? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
plymouth after preupgrade
Hi all, after preupgrading my thinkpad successfully I have lost my graphical boot: Plymouth only shows the text messages. Any idea what happened? And how would one fix this? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Broken dependencies: offlineimap]
Am Dienstag, den 17.11.2009, 02:38 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/17/2009 02:38 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, does anyone know what this means? Did we switch from Python 2.6 to 3.x or is python broken itself on rawhide? You can ignore them. Details at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-November/msg00010.html Rahul Ah, I should have noticed that, but this email was on top of my TODO this evening. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours
Am Donnerstag, den 12.11.2009, 20:35 +1100 schrieb L: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator pretty much meaningless. I can usually set things back to normal by charging up the battery to its true max capacity, 63 watt-hours, and rebooting. After the reboot, gnome-power-manager gains back its sanity, and usually continues to behave itself, for several cycle charges and reboots. But, invariably, after a few days gnome-power-manager once again becomes convinced that my laptop's got a nuclear-powered battery. It's beginning to get rather old, and annoying. It looks to me like somehow, somewhere, gnome-power-manager saved an erroneous power reading, once upon a time, and keeps going back to it. I tried looking in gconf, trying to figured out where gnome-power-manager saves the last full charge reading, but had no luck. Anyone knows? similar problem to me too. after wake-up from suspend/hibernate, gnome power manager shows 5% remaining, in fact there is still about 2 hours battery. hope some one offers a fix. Did you two have a look at /proc/acpi/battery? I doubt this is gnome-power-managers fault. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold
Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 17:29 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: We have just completed our Go / No Go meeting for Fedora 12 and have reached the decision to Go. Fedora 12's package set is golden and we're ready to stage things for shipping. Great work all around, I'm very proud of this release. I'm sure there will be more back patting and hand shaking to come, but Will Woods would like to remind everybody that it's just 11 weeks until Fedora 13 Alpha freeze! Does that mean, preupgrade to rawhide will bring in the f12 packages? If so, there is a major issue with anaconda that crashes upon detecting the harddrives. This is a little bit troubling since I have nothing exotic here, just two sata hds. I saved the debug report, but without storage I probably saved it to a ram disk. If anyone can help me figuring out how to get a stacktrace to a running machine (except for penpaper), I would be able to bring up some valuable information about that crash. regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold
Am Mittwoch, den 11.11.2009, 12:52 -0500 schrieb James Laska: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 17:06 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 17:29 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: We have just completed our Go / No Go meeting for Fedora 12 and have reached the decision to Go. Fedora 12's package set is golden and we're ready to stage things for shipping. Great work all around, I'm very proud of this release. I'm sure there will be more back patting and hand shaking to come, but Will Woods would like to remind everybody that it's just 11 weeks until Fedora 13 Alpha freeze! Does that mean, preupgrade to rawhide will bring in the f12 packages? If so, there is a major issue with anaconda that crashes upon detecting the harddrives. This is a little bit troubling since I have nothing exotic here, just two sata hds. I saved the debug report, but without storage I probably saved it to a ram disk. If anyone can help me figuring out how to get a stacktrace to a running machine (except for penpaper), I would be able to bring up some valuable information about that crash. The installer team has a fairly comprehensive wiki page on triaging installation-related failures (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_installation_problems). Are you able to save the traceback directly to bugzilla, instead of to your local disk? Nope, but the tty2 hint was what I needed. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536906 signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature request: AMD K10 thermal sensors
Am Donnerstag, den 29.10.2009, 14:51 +0100 schrieb Michal Schmidt: Dne 29.10.2009 12:38, Christoph Höger napsal(a): since a year or so the AMD K10 thermal sensors module (k10temp) seems to be floating around the web. I would appreciate some kernel packager integrating it into the fedora 11 stock kernel - since without it I can not build (and trust!) a silent cooling system. Any plans on this issue? AMD K10 sensors support has been repeatedly refused by upstream lm_sensors developers because of the sensors' unreliability. e.g. Rudolf Marek said in LKML on 2009-08-28: There is a problem that all chips of fam10h have some errata which renders the monitoring driver unusable. Some people proposed a workaround if temps look too suspicious to refuse to load. This is against a sense of monitoring to refuse the values where they don't look right. So there is no driver. Michal Just one question: How are the lm_sensors names (10h, 11h) related to current processors? 11h seems to be WIP. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Feature request: AMD K10 thermal sensors
Hi, since a year or so the AMD K10 thermal sensors module (k10temp) seems to be floating around the web. I would appreciate some kernel packager integrating it into the fedora 11 stock kernel - since without it I can not build (and trust!) a silent cooling system. Any plans on this issue? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature request: AMD K10 thermal sensors
Am Donnerstag, den 29.10.2009, 14:51 +0100 schrieb Michal Schmidt: Dne 29.10.2009 12:38, Christoph Höger napsal(a): since a year or so the AMD K10 thermal sensors module (k10temp) seems to be floating around the web. I would appreciate some kernel packager integrating it into the fedora 11 stock kernel - since without it I can not build (and trust!) a silent cooling system. Any plans on this issue? AMD K10 sensors support has been repeatedly refused by upstream lm_sensors developers because of the sensors' unreliability. e.g. Rudolf Marek said in LKML on 2009-08-28: There is a problem that all chips of fam10h have some errata which renders the monitoring driver unusable. Some people proposed a workaround if temps look too suspicious to refuse to load. This is against a sense of monitoring to refuse the values where they don't look right. So there is no driver. So this means there is no chance to get my thermal sensors working under fedora? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
ld ignoring parts of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
Hi, this is slightly off topic, but may be relevant for fedora developing, too: I have set up a small test bed for an application I am converting to a autotools build system. In this testbed I have: ./lib/libfoo.so ./lib/bar/libbar.so When I add the lib/ entry to LD_LIBRARY_PATH it is recognized and scanned for libraries. The same for the lib/bar entry. But when I add both, the lib/ entry is ignored completely. Is this normal? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
unused partition space after clonezilla move?
Hi, I have just moved my fedora to a newer, more power saving, larger and faster disk. I made up new Partitions (bigger than the old ones) and used clonezilla for the move. This worked pretty well except for the partition space: I have now e.g. 205GB unused space on my /home partition. How do I get the fs to cover the whole part? And afterwards: Is there a way to convert an ext3 into ext4 fs from the desktop (seems it is hard to unmount /home) regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fan control / thermal management on M3A770
Hi, I've had to buy a new MoBo (ASRock M3A770) and now I cannot see temperatures, fan speeds or any other things. pwmconfig states that it has no sensors found (but the sensor applet shows all sensors I know of without any values). Is there some kind of special kernel module one has to load or is my board simply not supported (yet) on the 2.6.30-8 kernel? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Installing a vim script
Hi, I just wanted to install the vim changelog script by adding runtime ftplugins/changelog.vim to my .vimrc But all I get is: Unknown function: SNR8_new_changelog_entry When I load that script via :runtime ftplugins/changelog.vim everything works as expected. What am I doing wrong? thanks, Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: ATX 4P power socket
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 15:18 -0500 schrieb Mike McCarty: Christoph Höger wrote: I somehow broke my ATX 4P 12V Power Socket from my mb. Here's my question: Is there any hope to get such a socket as a replacement part somewhere and try if repluging would help? The problem is not so much difficulty finding the part. The problem is going to be removing the broken one without damaging the MB. Really? How? That is where I fail already. None of the two big electronic dealers in germany has such a part in his shop. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: ATX 4P power socket
Am Samstag, den 17.10.2009, 11:42 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 15:18 -0500 schrieb Mike McCarty: Christoph Höger wrote: I somehow broke my ATX 4P 12V Power Socket from my mb. Here's my question: Is there any hope to get such a socket as a replacement part somewhere and try if repluging would help? The problem is not so much difficulty finding the part. The problem is going to be removing the broken one without damaging the MB. Really? How? That is where I fail already. None of the two big electronic dealers in germany has such a part in his shop. Never mind, just found it. It's called Mini Unviversal Mate and they do not sell it completely, but in parts. The crimping tool costs ~10x the price of my mobo. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
Today I used a compressor to clean up my cooler. That did not help alot. (There wasn't much dust inside). My cpu temp still goes up from 40° to 47° in ~ 2 minutes which causes the fan to start. Since the cpu has basically nothing to do and the cooler is clean, I am wondering if this could be some gfx related issue. Is there some known GPU load on a GM965/GL960 intel chip with KMS being enabled? Or may this be related to my (ageing) battery being plugged in? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
Am Samstag, den 17.10.2009, 14:31 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: On 10/17/2009 09:50 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: Today I used a compressor to clean up my cooler. That did not help alot. (There wasn't much dust inside). My cpu temp still goes up from 40° to 47° in ~ 2 minutes which causes the fan to start. Since the cpu has basically nothing to do and the cooler is clean, I am wondering if this could be some gfx related issue. Is there some known GPU load on a GM965/GL960 intel chip with KMS being enabled? Or may this be related to my (ageing) battery being plugged in? regards Christoph Install and run powertop It shows which program/driver/etc causes a lot of CPU wakeups. Yeah. Powertop _is_ usefull. But I suspect the GPU is the temperature cause here. So how would I measure that? (I do not have sensefull GPU temperature sensors available, it's always -128°) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
Am Donnerstag, den 15.10.2009, 17:34 -0500 schrieb Mikkel: Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I just wondered why my fan always runs after a while. After closing firefox (which took 50% cpu along with X) I now have a load of roughly 0.06 - barely nothing computed at all. Both cores are in the lowest config and yet my cpu temperature goes from 42°C to 47°C in roughly 2 minutes (and back by fan activity). I would understand this if there was some load, but what causes my CPU to heat if it does nothing? Design failure? Has anybody seen such a thing? regards Christoph When was the last time you cleaned the dust out? Also are the air vents on the laptop clear when in use? I am aware of that dust thing (I am going to give a compressor a try), but the heat goes up when the notebook and the fan is idle. That should not have anything to do with dust, right? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 07:18 -0300 schrieb Fernando Cassia: 2009/10/16 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: Am Donnerstag, den 15.10.2009, 17:34 -0500 schrieb Mikkel: Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I just wondered why my fan always runs after a while. After closing firefox (which took 50% cpu along with X) I now have a load of roughly 0.06 - barely nothing computed at all. Both cores are in the lowest config and yet my cpu temperature goes from 42°C to 47°C in roughly 2 minutes (and back by fan activity). I would understand this if there was some load, but what causes my CPU to heat if it does nothing? Design failure? Has anybody seen such a thing? regards Christoph When was the last time you cleaned the dust out? Also are the air vents on the laptop clear when in use? I am aware of that dust thing (I am going to give a compressor a try), but the heat goes up when the notebook and the fan is idle. That should not have anything to do with dust, right? When computers are idle (but active, I mean NOT hibernating or suspended) it doesn´t mean the CPU fan stops completely. Sometimes those spin at very low rpm so you don´t hear it, but the fan IS spinning, albeit at very slow speed. My fan-o-meter tells me it's at 0 RPM - that's what I'd call idling. Strange thing is: I think the controller of that fan is in learning mode. In the early days, it used to prevent 50°+ at all cost, now it even sometimes does not run at 53°. Is that some kind of ageing? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: ATX 4P power socket
Hi, I finally proofed the ultimate stupid error may happen if you think you know very well what you're doing: I somehow broke my ATX 4P 12V Power Socket from my mb. It was fixed with a expanding plastic plug so there might be hope that it was not soldered. Here's my question: Is there any hope to get such a socket as a replacement part somewhere and try if repluging would help? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
Hi, I just wondered why my fan always runs after a while. After closing firefox (which took 50% cpu along with X) I now have a load of roughly 0.06 - barely nothing computed at all. Both cores are in the lowest config and yet my cpu temperature goes from 42°C to 47°C in roughly 2 minutes (and back by fan activity). I would understand this if there was some load, but what causes my CPU to heat if it does nothing? Design failure? Has anybody seen such a thing? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root mail [SOLVED]
Am Montag, den 12.10.2009, 10:23 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: On 10/12/2009 03:35 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: Konstantin Svist kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 12. lokakuuta 2009): I don't want the localhost mail to go out through a real smtp server, and I'm not too keen on running a huge mailing package like sendmail or postfix on my laptop. What are my options? Use esmtp, it handles local mail delivery in addition to sending mail to upstream servers. It's available in Fedora, yum install esmtp. For documentation see: http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/doc.html Thanks, I think that works. Here's what I did: * install esmtp-local-delivery (it installs procmail) * edit /etc/esmtprc to include this line: mda procmail -d user (where user is my underprivileged username) Esmtp does't use aliases, but by lucky coincidence the user is specified right there in the procmail command line :) Nice to here this, but how do you sendmail to a real mta outside your box then (aka: How does esmtp decide to route without aliases)? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root mail [SOLVED]
Am Dienstag, den 13.10.2009, 00:27 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: On 10/13/2009 12:08 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: Nice to here this, but how do you sendmail to a real mta outside your box then (aka: How does esmtp decide to route without aliases)? Well, in this case I don't really need to send mail directly from the box. From what I understand, esmtp only uses procmail for local mail, so I could set up a real SMTP server for esmtp to use, as well. I think what esmtp does is check for the @ symbol. If found, it sends mail through SMTP server. If not, it uses procmail. Not sure why aliases need to be involved in this... Well, if you handle it that way, you basically have one implicit alias ;) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root mail
Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2009, 16:34 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: Hi all, I have a problem with unix mail Whenever there's a cron failure, etc. mail gets sent to root on localhost. It seems that it tries to use sendmail, except I have ssmtp set up in the alternatives. From reading the docs, it looks like ssmtp doesn't support unix mail. I don't want the localhost mail to go out through a real smtp server, and I'm not too keen on running a huge mailing package like sendmail or postfix on my laptop. What are my options? Thanks Hi, you could write a script directly invoke procmail. That should be pretty straight forward. regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Printing considered hard?
Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2009, 16:06 -0500 schrieb Aaron Konstam: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:36 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi all, I am sitting here in my new office and want to print from my fedora 11 machine. Epic fail. I just had to add ServerName and Encryption to /cups/client.conf and the basic tools (lpr) work. But printing from firefox is impossible (print dlg. freezes) and setting up this config from the printer dialog is impossible to (connect to server shows the printers but everytime I select one I get a connection error without further information). How is one supposed to print in todays fedora? regards Christoph If the client is on the same LAN as the server you should not have to touch client.conf. Cups does not know the difference between lpr printing and firefox printing so something sounds fishy, How about other applications printing. If firefox is the only one that fails then the problem is with firefox. It's not only firefox it is the whole Gtk/Gnome print subsystem. Every Gnome/Gtk App cannot print. Editing client.conf is a hack. And I guess it works without guarantee. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Printing considered hard?
Hi all, I am sitting here in my new office and want to print from my fedora 11 machine. Epic fail. I just had to add ServerName and Encryption to /cups/client.conf and the basic tools (lpr) work. But printing from firefox is impossible (print dlg. freezes) and setting up this config from the printer dialog is impossible to (connect to server shows the printers but everytime I select one I get a connection error without further information). How is one supposed to print in todays fedora? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Printing considered hard?
Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2009, 15:44 +0100 schrieb Tim Waugh: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:36 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi all, I am sitting here in my new office and want to print from my fedora 11 machine. Epic fail. I just had to add ServerName and Encryption to /cups/client.conf and the basic tools (lpr) work. ?? You shouldn't have to change any of that. How about telling us a little about your network so we don't have to guess? Well, there is really not much to say. It is a 1.3.10 cups server running some printers. Pretty standard setup, I'd guess. Except for any modern tools (aka print dialogs and printer setup/discovery) printing does work (you could plug in a debian, cups-client only system without a hassle). On the fedora side all server packages are somewhat broken it seems. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Printing considered hard?
Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2009, 16:15 +0100 schrieb Tim Waugh:
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 17:04 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote:
How about telling us a little about your network so we don't have to
guess?
Well, there is really not much to say. It is a 1.3.10 cups server
running some printers. Pretty standard setup, I'd guess.
So the server is.. Fedora 10? Or something different? It's configured
to require encryption or something? Is it sharing printers using CUPS
browsing (i.e. 'Share printers connected to this system')?
I have no idea how that server is configured, since I am not the admin.
All I know is that no encryption should be required and the mentioned
settings work fine. I can query the http site of the server and see
every printer. I doubt that it broadcasts its printers though. Going to
ask the admin.
Is that server on the same subnet as your client? If not, perhaps some
router is blocking out the CUPS broadcast packets or something.
Maybe. This is indeed not the same subnet.
Are there other machines around on the same network as you that are able
to print? What are they running, etc?
Since this is some kind of guest network I do not know of any other
machines.
Don't change /etc/cups/client.conf -- if you've changed it, change it
back.
The change you will be expected to make on the client is to allow CUPS
broadcast packets from the server. To do that:
1. System-Administration-Firewall
2. Make sure 'Network Printing Client (IPP)' is enabled
3. Click 'Apply'
FW was deactivated ;)
(No, you shouldn't need to do any of that in an ideal world..)
On the fedora side all server packages are somewhat broken it seems.
Slightly confused now -- you're running Fedora 11 as a client, yes? Or
a server?
I have a fedora 11 client here at work and it won't play nicely with the
cups server here.
And I guess I know why:
connect(18, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(631),
sin_addr=inet_addr(10.146.2.17)}, 16) = -1 EHOSTUNREACH (No route to
host)
This happens after alot of conversation. I am going to ask the admin
what this machine is and what it is good for (simple guess: It's the
printer and I am not allowed talking to it directly).
The question is: why do I need to connect to a printer (or any other
machine) when I only want to talk to a cups server??
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Re: Printing considered hard?
Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2009, 16:59 +0100 schrieb Tim Waugh:
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 17:45 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote:
I have a fedora 11 client here at work and it won't play nicely with the
cups server here.
Works fine on my Fedora 11 (client) - Fedora 10 (server) set-up here,
so it's some configuration issue local to you.
And I guess I know why:
connect(18, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(631),
sin_addr=inet_addr(10.146.2.17)}, 16) = -1 EHOSTUNREACH (No route to
host)
This is almost useful, but it has no context at all so I have no idea
what to make of it.
Me neither. Since this is not my network. But this is the point where
getting the printer props breaks.
Bug filed.
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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]
Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 10:09 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution I'll take this one. Peter I've just commented on that package, but you're not yet maintaining it, so I'll repeat what I've discussed with Matěj already: 1. There is some bug with the libraries lying in /usr/lib/syncevolution without patching no binary works out of the box 2. The sync-ui binary (which I wanted to test the most ;)) is missing. regars Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
install Eclipse plugins in home folder
Hi,
in the good old days there used to be a plugins/ folder somewhere inside
~/.eclipse .
One could put plugins in this folder and they worked.
For f11 (eclipse 3.4) I cannot find this folder anymore. Any ideas where
it has gone?
Also /usr/{share,lib}/eclipse/{dropins,plugins}/ did not work out.
Anybody, please?
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Re: install Eclipse plugins in home folder
Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Andrew Overholt:
* Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de [2009-09-30 06:55]:
in the good old days there used to be a plugins/ folder somewhere inside
~/.eclipse .
Yes, this was before p2 in 3.4.
For f11 (eclipse 3.4) I cannot find this folder anymore. Any ideas where
it has gone?
I don't know if it's possible to do it anymore. There may be a
directory buried in ~/.eclipse somewhere but I'm not sure.
Creating ~/.eclipse/org.eclipseVERSION/dropins manually worked.
Also /usr/{share,lib}/eclipse/{dropins,plugins}/ did not work out.
Why not? No root access? Try installing from the zip or local
directory with the update manager. That should work just fine as a
regular user.
To be honest I do not know what caused it, but running eclipse -console
showed a problem that might cause it: Eclipse seems to cache bundles
based on names and versions, so if you put a damaged plugin to dropins/
and overwrite it (what I tried) the new jar will not even be read if it
has the same version - no warning, nothing.
So Kids: Never try that at home! Always use eclipses install manager.
(and to rpm packagers: do not try to update by a new rpm release without
either erasing eclipses cache or changing the version of the plugin)
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mutt broken?
Hi, I am not sure if this is a bug or my misusage of something, but when I try to access my Maildir with mutt the deletion flags are correctly set on the first run but disappear when I close mutt. This means that all those mails that ended up in my Trash folder (e.g. in evolution) are now in my INBOX again. Has anybody seen this before? Shall I file a bug? regards christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: bodhi formatting
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:51 +0200 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): Hi, I wanted to be a good packager and include the upstream CHANGELOG lines in the update notes of bsf-2.4.0, but bodhi does not accept empty lines (error) nor linebreaks (ignored). How is that text supposed to be formatted? For best results, you can use the MarkDown syntax. Right now, PK understands it and will display it nicely. I'm working on it on the Bodhi side, so that Bodhi displays it nicely as well. Patches are available, waiting for Luke to accept them or ask me to rework them :) https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/286 Thanks for the hint. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
cannot mockbuild
Hi, when I try make mockbuild on the bsf package to test my changes, I get the following error: [r...@choeger5 devel]# yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-11-x86_64/root/ resolvedep ccache 'jython' 'java-gcj-compat-devel' 'ant' 'tomcat5-jsp-2.0-api' 'xalan-j2' 'servlet' 'jpackage-utils = 1.6' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 309, in user_main errcode = main(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 157, in main base.getOptionsConfig(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 189, in getOptionsConfig self.conf File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 652, in lambda conf = property(fget=lambda self: self._getConfig(), File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 239, in _getConfig self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 794, in readMainConfig yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, startupconf.distroverpkg) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 873, in _getsysver hdr = idx.next() StopIteration Any ideas what causes that? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: KDE overrides gnome?
Thanks for your reply since I installed KDE for testing and it failed in some aspects (see my kmail thread), I am noticing, that even under gnome I get some Qt dialogs now and then (e.g. nautilus starting as default file manager You mean dolphin, don't you? Nautilus is the default Gnome file manager. To change that, right-click on any folder in Dolphin, and click on the wrench icon next to Type:Folder. Then you can move Dolphin up in the list that appears. Just Apply, and it should be OK. If it only opens from Firefox, then I'd say there is something strange going on... Yeah. I meant dolphin. But I cannot find that wrench symbol... Is there any explanation for that order? Is this some kind of freedesktop.org stuff? from firefox, policykit auth dialog). I do not want to start a flamewar, but I think that under gnome everything should be as gnomish as possible (and vice-versa under kde), so I _could_ blame firefox for the first example, but why the hell does policykit run a Qt dialog when it should run a gtk dialog? I don't know a good solution for that, but if you uninstall polkit-qt the dialog should be the gtk dialog again. Well, that is the problem: [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep Policy PolicyKit-gnome-libs-0.9.2-3.fc11.x86_64 PolicyKit-0.9-6.fc11.x86_64 PolicyKit-gnome-0.9.2-3.fc11.x86_64 [choe...@choeger5 ~]$ LANG=en_US.UTF8 rpm -q PolicyKit-kde package PolicyKit-kde is not installed so, posting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519495 seems to be a good idea. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KDE overrides gnome?
Hi there, since I installed KDE for testing and it failed in some aspects (see my kmail thread), I am noticing, that even under gnome I get some Qt dialogs now and then (e.g. nautilus starting as default file manager from firefox, policykit auth dialog). I do not want to start a flamewar, but I think that under gnome everything should be as gnomish as possible (and vice-versa under kde), so I _could_ blame firefox for the first example, but why the hell does policykit run a Qt dialog when it should run a gtk dialog? And how do I change that? Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 10:43 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:02:33 Christoph Höger wrote: Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) This is nonsense. It may not be able to read your maildir files - due to your setup - but it can certainly read maildir mail. It does on my system, which uses maildir over imap. Thunderbird has no support for maildir. That's it. You can of course proxy your mail through whatever protocol you want. But there is no support of maildir! There is no Maildir Mail btw. if you use IMAP it's IMAP and no Maildir is visible anymore. But that is way offtopic: The original problem is that you cannot use KMail to work on a Maildir without killing the whole maildir. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 12:27 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Friday 04 September 2009 11:23:53 Christoph Höger wrote: Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 10:43 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:02:33 Christoph Höger wrote: Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) This is nonsense. It may not be able to read your maildir files - due to your setup - but it can certainly read maildir mail. It does on my system, which uses maildir over imap. Thunderbird has no support for maildir. That's it. You can of course proxy your mail through whatever protocol you want. But there is no support of maildir! There is no Maildir Mail btw. if you use IMAP it's IMAP and no Maildir is visible anymore. But that is way offtopic: The original problem is that you cannot use KMail to work on a Maildir without killing the whole maildir. This is my last word on this. You are talking utter nonsense. I do not use any kind of proxy and I do use both kmail and thunderbird with maildir mail over imap. You say it: OVER IMAP! YOU USE IT OVER IMAP! This is the whole point. Calling my statements nonsense is bullshit! I simply do not want to run an IMAP server on my notebook to allow kmail read my maildir! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
You do not need to. Then: How can I make kmail behave sane? Again, to make my point clear: My email is and will stay stored on my hard disk. No servers. No sockets. No IMAP/POP/whatever. Simple plain Maildir. And /me wants to access it with _multiple_ clients. I do not want kmail to take my mail as hostage! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
using ant-conrib.rpm
Hi, has anybody any idea how to use the ant-contrib.rpm? It sits there in /usr/share/java but ant reports an error on: taskdef resource=net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml/ Suggestions? Thanks Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kmail eating my maildir???
Hi guys, I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE! Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the maildir and akonadi? regards, Christoph ps: sent by mutt ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 14:47 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE! Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the maildir and akonadi? Are you using standard packages? I have three installations all running KDE 4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail. I have no such problem, so the question is, what is different about your install? I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet. So IMAP is the only way... KMail can't do what? Simply reading Maildirs? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 16:23 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail. KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet. So IMAP is the only way... I'm still not sure just what Honza is actually doing. I suspect that he may be trying to use a mailbox set up by another client, in which case he will have to import his mail. We need a great deal more information before there is any possibility of helping him. I've been using KMail for 7 years, and not only have I never seen KMail eat mail, I've never seen anyone else experience it either. It's easy to reproduce: Set up a Maildir (again: I am talking about the Maildir format!) and put some mail in it. Then try to add that Maildir to your account. After this reading that Maildir with mutt will show an empty folder. This is clearly a design flaw: Any Mailclient that reads a Maildir should not modify it's content without explicit permission by the user. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 18:55 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail. I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately. I've just read the bug report again. It says that, due to the way kmail works, it is not possible to read mail in other agents. This is demonstrably false. Thunderbird and seamonkey have to problem whatsoever in reading the mail - I haven't used any others. The bug report replies did attempt to show some of the other issues that may be confusing the reporter. Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 18:48 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Underwood: 2009/8/31 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: We already have ssmtp, esmtp. Is this something different? I don't think they have local mail delivery capability, though that is being worked on for esmtp. Does dma have a local queue? Can I sendmail emails when I am offline? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent
Hi, is dma packaged by someone? That would be the first step and I would happily test that thing (having postfix installed after Paul Frields advice which works well). regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
network issues with kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586
Hi all, I hope somebody can confirm this: The last days I had some trouble with my networking (both wireless and ethernet) in forms of high latency, strange arp behaviour etc. Today I could not even ping anything outside. The problem seemed to be that: 1. arp replys were ignored 2. if arp -s was used, anything else was ignored for the userspace That means: I pinged my nameserver, and tcpdump showed request and replys happily flowing around. But: ping did not get any packet. It reported 100% packet loss. That applies to any other userspace prog that uses a socket. I also had some wireless errors (iwlagn: microcode error) in my dmesg the days before. Currently I am using kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 and the problem arised after some minutes again. Looks like a buffer run full or somethign... Is there a workaround? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
OSTYPE not set in make?
Hi all, I have to (really, I have - so please do not advise me to change to autotools ;) ) work with a makefile which uses something like: ifeq ($(OSTYPE),msys) ar cru $(MODEL) $(DEST) ranlib $(MODEL) else $(LINKCMD) -o $(MODEL) $(DEST) $(LINKLIB) endif To build for different platforms. So far so fine, but why is $OSTYPE empty? I have linux-gnu in my shell? (just wondering for the reason, the bug report will come anyway) regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spell checking in vim
Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Marco Guazzone: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: [cut text] I am missing something. If you get the file how do you get vim to correct the misspelled words? Once you have the dictionary file in $HOME/.vim/spell (in this case the file is de.utf-8.spl) you can spell check inside ViM by issueing the command: :setlocal spell spelllang=de Did you test that with fedora 11 and vim 7.2? On my machine vim says the file would not look like a language file. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spell checking in vim
http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.spl http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.sug Note: the sug file is not important but should improve spelling (don't know how) I've downloaded those files and saved into $HOME/.vim/spell Then I've tried :setlocal spell spelllang=de and now it seems to work -- Marco Ah, thanks alot, that was what I needed! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Spell checking in vim
Hi folks, I just wanted to spellcheck some files with vim. set spelllang=de reports that de.utf-8.spl is missing. Is there a package that provides that file or do I have to search upstream for it? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spell checking in vim
problem solved: mkdir -p ~/.vim/spell simple enough - if you know it. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
Am Freitag, den 31.07.2009, 16:17 -0700 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 23:29 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: For your personal needs evolution seems perfect. I find evolution (which I am using right now) to be very buggy. It has been crashing several times per day, sometimes only minutes after being started. I have a fairly large number of messages now, 82,760 to be exact which may have some effect on this. You can handle maildirs and have gpg support out of the box via some checkboxes. I'd like to try out maildirs, which I used in the past, but can't find the checkboxes. I thought support for maildirs had been withdrawn a few years ago. You only need to set your server setting (where you normally set pop or imap) to email in maildir format setting. That works great for me ;) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
For your personal needs evolution seems perfect. You can handle maildirs and have gpg support out of the box via some checkboxes. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
postfix per sender relay bounces
Hi, I noticed an odd problem on my fresh local postfix setup (which was done after Pauls howto http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2616 ) The Problem is: when my paranoid university mail server denied relay because of the wrong helo (even though I authenticate via a TLS secured connection), postfix happily wanted to send a bounce report. To the adress of the faked sender. So it tried to relay that bounce report to the university server again and -of course- failed. Is there a way to configure postfix to send bounces for specific senders back to a local queue? regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
awesomebar not working
Hi, recently (after I reactivated compiz, which should be totally unrelated to that issue) my awesomebar (aka firefoxs search bar) does not work anymore. Has anybody experienced this too and could help me gather some diagnostics here? regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: awesomebar not working
Well, somehow it does work again after some time. Is there a ff to sqlite access log somewhere? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
lightweight spam filter
Hi, is there a lightweight spam filter out there that works well with postfix? Especially important would be to whitelist some servers I forward mail from that already run a spamfilter. regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Feature proposal: Rebootless Installer
Hi, although (as others pointed out) a reboot may be necessary one way or the other, my opinion would be: Why not? Currently you are *forced* to reboot which now seems not to be a must have. So why not remove that force and allow the user to decide when to reboot? (Maybe one would like to install all available updates before he has to reboot *again* because kernel updates or stuff). So before any flaming starts: Please keep in mind that no one wants to *remove* reboot. ;) my 2ct christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Rebootless Installer
Nobody is forced. You must be misremembering things. Huh? Plain installing worked without reboot? Did not notice that last weekend with f11 i386 dvd. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Rebootless Installer
We are talking about a live cd installation, yes? You can close the installer then. We were talking about anaconda. And I still don't know a sane (aka no manual chroot) way to go from livecd into the fresh installed environment. You surely agree that users that know about chroot are probably not the ones adressed with the hey, cool, in this linux thingy i do not need to reboot after install feature, don't you? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Rebootless Installer
Am Dienstag, den 14.07.2009, 09:00 -0600 schrieb Douglas McClendon: Christoph Höger wrote: We are talking about a live cd installation, yes? You can close the installer then. We were talking about anaconda. And I still don't know a sane (aka no manual chroot) way to go from livecd into the fresh installed environment. If you look at the feature page and watch 18 minutes of youtube videos, and/or look at my code, I think you'll have to admit there is 'a way' to do it. I certainly won't be offended by the label 'insane' however, unless of course you find technical problems with my implementation, in which case, I still won't mind the label, I'll just go fix em. That was, of course, meant: Except for feature proposals discussed here ;) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:22 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:09 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow Looks, good, thanks Christoph. Darn. Not free. Sorry about that, I didn't notice. Time for a free port I think ;) Yes, after my exam in SOA, I can definetely need something to work on besides my thesis. That will fit that hole. I'll still need to see what language and tools I'll use. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow Looks, good, thanks Christoph. No more kits please. ;) Whatever the new software would be named, pls don't make another *kit. What about a KitKit to manage tham all? Or NameKit for controlling how newly created software will be named? ;) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow Looks, good, thanks Christoph. Darn. Not free. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: delaying an update
Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 17:41 +0300 schrieb Jussi Lehtola: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:30 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Christoph Höger on 07/08/2009 09:21 AM wrote: how do I do that? Since you have not submitted it for stable I do not see any problem. Don't do anything. :) You might want to disable the automatic push to stable, though, in case the package gets too much karma.. That's what I meant with delay. So how do I do that? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: delaying an update
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RFC: cronKit
Hi, since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap, I encounter a small problem: How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under gnome only? Since consolekit (correct me if I am wrong on that) does not provide a way to get that information (it is even unclear if dbus is running at all), I was thinking of the following solution: Since I want the job only to be run if I am logged in under gnome the main idea is to have a process added to the session that can handle crontab like jobs (aka cronKit) Do you have any advice on that? Does such a software already exist? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
ps u -C gnome-session | egrep -q ^till offlineimap Yeah, that would be a hack ;). signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that there is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: cronKit
Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 16:02 -0400 schrieb Casey Dahlin: On 07/06/2009 03:58 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that there is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment. I'll point out that upstart will do all this to some point, but I don't expect you to wait around for us :) --CJD Could it handle jobs as gnome child processes? Or would upstart solve that issue differently? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: certificate not (yet) active?
Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 14:02 +0200 schrieb Till Maas:
On Thu July 2 2009, Christoph Höger wrote:
I had to create a new .fedora.cert this morning, because make
new-sources told me mine was out of date.
So I did but now make build runs into
Error: [('SSL routines', 'SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE', 'certificate
verify failed')]
why that? (And I wanted to update offlineimap to 6.1.0 today *sniff*)
Maybe you need to run fedora-packager-setup from fedora-packager again. If
you
edited your koji.conf, you may re-add your changes btw.
Thanks, that worked it out. It isn't the easiest thing to package from
two pcs and keep their data in sync.
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git am and tabs in the commit messages
Hi, I use to write commit messages in the following format: short name * point 1 * point 2 when I git format-patch and git am a change like that I get: short name * point 1 * point 2 Why that? Are tabs unsupported? regards, christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: git-svn and pull messages
Another option might be to only have one git repo that you use with git svn. Say you do most work at work (I know, that seems unlikely, but just pretend, for the sake of the example ;). You could use git svn at work to clone the svn repo. Then from home, you would clone the git repo at work. That way, your work from home would be pushed back to the git repo at work and you would only push to the svn repo from work. Guess what, that sounds like the only way to go. I am going to setup a git svn repo where my own repo lies (backed up 24h server), clone that onto every client branch-wise (only if cherrypicking does not work) and than go on with the work. thanks anyway! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: git-svn and pull messages
Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 11:14 -0400 schrieb Todd Zullinger: Christoph Höger wrote: I am currently using git-svn to feed my git based work into a subversion repository. After having done work on my personal branch(es) I pull the commits into the git-svn based repo and finally dcommit. My problem is: I can see only Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/choeger/dev/diplom/private_git/emodelica into HEAD like log messages in the svn log, all commit logs from git are gone. Is there a way to make dcommits messages more verbose? You have to be sure that you have a flat, linear history in the git branch that you dcommit to svn, as svn can't understand git merges. If you created any merge commits in git that you then dcommited to svn, I *think* this is how it looks. But since both repos have no common origin, I will always see that merge message, right? So my only chance would be to a) make them have the same origin (could I rebase my work repo to the svn repo and have the history still in place?) b) apply every single change as a patch via git-am Is that correct? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
git-svn and pull messages
Hi, I am currently using git-svn to feed my git based work into a subversion repository. After having done work on my personal branch(es) I pull the commits into the git-svn based repo and finally dcommit. My problem is: I can see only Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/choeger/dev/diplom/private_git/emodelica into HEAD like log messages in the svn log, all commit logs from git are gone. Is there a way to make dcommits messages more verbose? regards, christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 19:55 +1000 schrieb Eric Springer: 2009/6/12 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: Could you explain why mp3 (or ogg) encoding is not a real world benchmark? I do this quite often. Because they are comparing file system on what is a CPU bound test. Notice how all the file systems perform the same. That was their conclusion, too: Anyone who wants fastest possible encoding can use any filesystem. But it has to be measured, as the difference in ogg encoding shows. That's what makes up Real World tests IMO: To test even side effects no one would ever really think of. As in real world you will probably store your encoded files on your filesystem it is good to see that there are no regressions. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
The question becomes what is significantly different in the Apache test? Is the Apache test essentially a network i/o test? What is significantly different here that would not end up being tracked to an upstream kernel networking stack regression? Is the apache performance collatoral damage from selinux related latency?Something else in userspace slowing Apache down. I've no idea. I can't imagine its compiler related options on the Apache binaries. Without knowing how exactly the benchmark works I would guess that most of those apache requests are kernel calls so SELinux _might_ make a huge difference here. Perhaps somebody from the SELinux team should tell phoronix about it (and to _always_ test with SELinux disabled to measure the price of security). signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: sendmail delivery to local maildir?
Am Montag, den 08.06.2009, 20:30 -0400 schrieb Mail Lists: MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/ Yep, that made my day. Especially because that means I can drop mail directly under my home and do not have to link or do any other workaround. Thanks a lot signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sendmail delivery to local maildir?
Hi, thanks for the advice. It nearly worked. After making /var/spool/mail/choeger a dir (and setting group to mail, at least my old mbox was set to that group), procmail seems to store the messages in maildir format. But it does so by putting them directly under /var/spool/mail/choeger so I can only read them after moving them to cur manually. Is that my fault? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sendmail delivery to local maildir?
Hi all, I would like to have sendmail sending all local mail to a maildir folder in my home (thats were all my IMAP mails go), so I can read _all_ my mail _everywhere_. Is it possible to convince sendmail to put my mail a) in maildir format instead of INBOX? b) in ~/Maildir/SOMEFOLDER instead of /var/spool/mail/choeger ? Maybe simply by linking? And if so, how to do that? thanks christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution header: Mime-version: 1.0
Am Mittwoch, den 03.06.2009, 10:09 -0700 schrieb Johannes Erdfelt: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009, Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote: I see a small problem with evolution when sending to mailinglists. Obviously evolution puts: Mime-version: 1.0 in the header, hypermail searches for MIME-version: and cannot find that string. So it adds it. In turn my mail provider bounces the return message that should be sent to me complaining about duplicate header field. So who is wrong here? Hypermail or evolution? Is non uppercase letter Mime-version allowed? Anyone knowing the answer? Hypermail. Headers should be matched in a case insensitive manner. JE Where do you get that conclusion from? I can only cite RFC 2045 which says: Messages composed in accordance with this document MUST include such a header field, with the following verbatim text: MIME-Version: 1.0 signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: evolution header: Mime-version: 1.0
Am Donnerstag, den 04.06.2009, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Mittwoch, den 03.06.2009, 10:09 -0700 schrieb Johannes Erdfelt: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009, Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote: I see a small problem with evolution when sending to mailinglists. Obviously evolution puts: Mime-version: 1.0 in the header, hypermail searches for MIME-version: and cannot find that string. So it adds it. In turn my mail provider bounces the return message that should be sent to me complaining about duplicate header field. So who is wrong here? Hypermail or evolution? Is non uppercase letter Mime-version allowed? Anyone knowing the answer? Hypermail. Headers should be matched in a case insensitive manner. JE Where do you get that conclusion from? I can only cite RFC 2045 which says: Messages composed in accordance with this document MUST include such a header field, with the following verbatim text: MIME-Version: 1.0 Found RFC 5234 myself. Thanks. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
