Re: dd question, what am I doing wrong?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:02 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:13 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: The problem I have specifically with rsync (or tar, or cp) is that it does not save ACLs, file attributes too well, and so on that I gave up using it. Perhaps the problem in this case is not to use the -a option but to use the manual options to save everything about the files that you can. Specifically: rsync manual: -a, --archivearchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) -H, --hard-links preserve hard links -A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p) -X, --xattrs preserve extended attributes Do you mean that you've tried these (particularly -A and -X) and they don't work? If so, have you filed a bug report? I am not certain that it's a bug per-se, it's just that there are cases, or so it seems, where it is not clear how to deal with the issue on my part. For example, hard links (-H). How are hard links handled on one drive to be copied over to another and is it guaranteed to work? I could not get my mind around this one so I did not want to take a chance. Well, you could try it. Since you're copying to a fresh drive anyway, there's no harm in doing it and checking the result. Hard links are an easy case in fact, and trivial to check. Create file A and hard link B to it. Rsync A and B to a different filesystem, using the -H option. Use ls -i on the copied files to see that they both have the same inode. That's all a hard link is. As for ACLs (-A), what exactly is being handled here and does this work for ALL Oses concerned - do they follow the same standard? WTF? Of course not. I thought we were talking about Linux here. In fact there's been no indication in this thread of anything to the contrary. There is no standard for this stuff across OSes (I suppose Posix might be considered a standard but I'd be very careful about relying on it). We're doing low-level system maintenance here. Don't expect anything to be portable. I am thinking about Vista in particular, so I did not want to experiment on this one either. I wouldn't dream of doing this on a non-Unix system. As for extended attributes (-X), I have no clue exactly what this is. I guess I have to someday take the time to do more research before messing around with these rsync options. This is a particular reason why I am using dd/rescue resizing - it works sans Vista, which I have yet to try. Again, rsync is a *Unix* utility, designed for *Unix* filesystems *only*. If you'd said at the beginning that you wanted to move a Vista partition we could have saved ourselves a lot of time. poc I was being general. The same issue applies to linux when it comes to rsync. If one relies on rsync to keep all the file atttibutes with -a option, there are surprises as I mentioned. I threw in Vista just to make a point that rsync does not work with Vista (or Xp), as you already know. It pays to know what these rsync options do and what OSes rsync works with, again which you already know, but it is written here for those that don't - me included. I learned the hard way by testing it all out so that I know what works and what doesn't. I found that rsync does copy the data on Xp or Vista, but sans the file attributes. At least with a failing drive most of the data was saved when in a hurry. It sure is fast. Getting back on topic - it is dd/rescue that works for (some) OSes and so far it does. I discovered that it definitely works with XP so as long as the partition copied from source to destination is the same partition# - otherwise, one is forced to 'fixBoot' because somehow the partition data (boot.ini) and the partition MBR are not in sync. Vista on the other hand does not work even if dd'ing source to destination, with the same partition#s. I am fighting a battle on another system trying to get XP Vista's boot partition to work where the partition to partition copy are not the same, local or to different drives. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
To dd or to rsync, that's the question...
Which is the preferred backup solution? As it seems, when I use rsync to copy data from disk1 partitionX over to disk2 partition X, I noticed that if one uses Fedora Selinux, one has to touch /.autorelabel for that partition. It seems to work, except in cases where the UUID is being hard-wired especially with HAL devices and I started noticing it in cases where xorg devices are sometimes spitting out errors showing UUID devices, and crashes Nautilus but recovers and it does this almost every time the system is rebooted into Fedora. On the other hand, if one decides to use dd instead, does this preserve the UUID of the devices including that of the disk partition and it should work perfectly even without the use of /.autorelabel? I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means. In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this would not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would perhaps also fail. This was the reason I was forced to use rsync in order to get the data copied over (with errors: I had two files corrupted and I assumed that a reinstall of the OS would pickup the missing pieces) so this leads to Vista as follows on this case, however, I experimented on another system using dd and Vista, it seems to make no difference at all when trying to 'upgrade' or reinstall the OS on top of the existing OS. I noticed that dd was the only solution for XP and it works, on the other hand it does not work for Vista. What I did in the Vista case was to rsync the Vista partition to disk2/Vista partition, bootrec /fixBoot, set active (boot) to the drive2/Vista partition and completely reinstall Vista (because I could not figure out how to 'update' instead of Install as the Update was greyed out), and in doing it this way, the Vista/DVD seemed to recognize the partition as such, but moved the contents to windows.old and proceeded to complete the installation. Of course, this means a complete manual reinstall of 3rd party software and user profile, a royal pain in the a$$. Interestingly though, it appears that one does not need to reactivate the license, and I have yet to see it being asked for. Any pointers/advice is appreciated! Kind regards, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-12-01 13:01:47, Dan Thurman wrote: Which is the preferred backup solution? ... I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means. You don't seem to be doing a backup, but rather making a copy of an existing drive. You should probably do that and then also make a backup some other way. To copy a disk, I always use dd and then expand the last partition as needed (it's usually LVM2, so I then expand some of the LVs). The disk I usually do this to has WinXP (and Win98) as well as Linux /boot and LVM2 partitions. In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this would not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would perhaps also fail. ... ddrescue I tried ddrescue and it seems to work, except that there was 4 errors reported. When I went to look at the mount, it seems to indicate that the partition was not readable, perhaps left in some unknown state. Are there any ddrescue options that I need to be aware of? The command I used was: ddrescue /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 I tried to go into a working OS (XP) and tried to use the chkdsk /F E: and it says that it could not locate the master tables and kills chkdsk. It also says it is not a NTFS partition either. This of course was on a Vista partition. Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gimp Gap?
[OFF TOPIC]: Gimp I was reading Gimp on Gimp's website and discovered that there was something called Gap. It was not clear to me if this was already built in, is a plugin, or a separate application to be downloaded and installed. If Gap is already built-in, how does one invoke it? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
Todd Denniston wrote: N. James Bridge wrote, On 12/17/2008 01:55 PM: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus. perhaps a bit more than that... like a reboot. please see Paul Frields email: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html granted the `yum update dbus` might be needed in Dan's case if other packages than dbus are preventing the yum update from finishing. I had rebooted my system, and on rebooting, the dbus failed to start, rhgb started but logins were prevented in X. So, I Alt-F1, logged in as root, then yum removed fuse-emulator* and was able to start yum updates. The reason being, that there were library dependencies that refused to go away. So, hopefully, if the major updates (1.7GB) are successful, I hope to add back in the removed packages. We'll see how that goes and I'll post a follow up soon! Sorry about the multiple postings - these were stopped queued email messages that were blocked and upon fixing the problem at my end, released the queued emails. Thanks for responding! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
Dan Thurman wrote: Todd Denniston wrote: N. James Bridge wrote, On 12/17/2008 01:55 PM: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus. perhaps a bit more than that... like a reboot. please see Paul Frields email: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html granted the `yum update dbus` might be needed in Dan's case if other packages than dbus are preventing the yum update from finishing. I had rebooted my system, and on rebooting, the dbus failed to start, rhgb started but logins were prevented in X. So, I Alt-F1, logged in as root, then yum removed fuse-emulator* and was able to start yum updates. The reason being, that there were library dependencies that refused to go away. So, hopefully, if the major updates (1.7GB) are successful, I hope to add back in the removed packages. We'll see how that goes and I'll post a follow up soon! Sorry about the multiple postings - these were stopped queued email messages that were blocked and upon fixing the problem at my end, released the queued emails. Thanks for responding! Dan Follow up as promised I have updated my F9 fine now. I found that I cannot install Kadu and did not really want gyachi either since both are assumably broken, I'll wait for later updates when they become available. Same with fuse-emulator - since I don't really need it either - maybe later. I'm happy as a clam now ;) Thanks for all the help! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Is it me or what? Musical chairs with fonts?
Seems that every time there is a new Xorg release my desktop fonts are changing. One time it is too large, and now it is very small (try size 5 or 6). Sometimes the window apps positions have shifted, or the mounted-disk desktop icons have shifted forcing me to reset the settings and re-save the desktop settings. Not a big deal, just a bit annoying. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]
Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:16:18 -0500 fred smith wrote: Did you enable weather icons in preferences? Do you have enough space on your panel to show the weather? It takes up another inch or so of space. I have found, that removing the applet and re-adding the applet to the panel, re-setting the locale, clicking on the Weather tab: F, changing it to something other, then back to F, seems to restore it. Seems for some reason, Gnome-2 configuration files gets messed up, which may mean that you may need to reset the offending applet or application via the method mentioned above. Occassionally, I find that the User Switcher, and the Clock messes up as well and also needs to be reset. Don't forget to Session-Save as well after making the changes. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]
fred smith wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:25:38AM -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:16:18 -0500 fred smith wrote: Did you enable weather icons in preferences? Do you have enough space on your panel to show the weather? It takes up another inch or so of space. I have found, that removing the applet and re-adding the applet to the panel, re-setting the locale, clicking on the Weather tab: F, changing it to something other, then back to F, seems to restore it. Seems for some reason, Gnome-2 configuration files gets messed up, which may mean that you may need to reset the offending applet or application via the method mentioned above. Occassionally, I find that the User Switcher, and the Clock messes up as well and also needs to be reset. Don't forget to Session-Save as well after making the changes. None of that makes any difference. I've assumed we're talking about the gnome clock applet, which offers weather information. But perhaps we're talking about the weather applet, which is a different critter? I've removed, re-added, reset everything in the clock applet and it simply doesn't show any weather info. But the weather applet works in that it shows a temperature--so far it isn't showing anything else... And how does one Session-Save, as you mention above? I don't see anything on any gnome menu with a similar name... Thanks for your advice! I am talking about the clock applet that you see for date and time, that appears in the panel (mine is on top). When I log in, I get these Gnome dialog errors that tells me the applet(s) are messed up. So I close the dialog boxes, then remove the offending applet(s) icons in the panel (as reported by the Gnome dialog boxes), then proceed to add them back in. If the Weather icon that appears to the left of the date/time is not working, then I select the icon preferences, click the Location tab to ensure that I have the correct location (mine was empty), then click the Weather tab, drop-down the 'Temperature Unit', select 'Default', then close the Preferences. Next, open the Preferences again, reset the Temperature Unit back to 'F' (for my location, but you can choose whatever you want), close the preferences box again. Wait awhile, then it worked. As for 'Save Session', I wanted to make sure that the new applets were saved in Gnome-2 configuration files because I am not sure if it is 'committed' automatically and this may not be required. When I ran into these problems initially, I wanted to see if my account gnome-2 configuration were messed up, so as a test, I created a new temporary user - a different account - to see if the Weather icon works, i.e. if by creating a new account, new (virgin) gnome-2 configuration files are created properly. If the Weather icon did not work, then I can assume that there was something wrong with my gnome package on my system. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sed programming question
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 10Dec2008 18:39, Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] You can only do AND by nesting multiple pattern matches: /foo/{ /bar/{ ... do stuff for foo AND bar } } I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option but could not make it work as an AND operator: # echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}' goo har -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sed programming question
Gordon Messmer wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option but could not make it work as an AND operator: # echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}' goo har $ rpm -q sed sed-4.1.5-11.fc10.x86_64 $ echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}' foo har $ rpm -q sed sed-4.1.5-10.fc9.i386 Hmm... I tried it again and it worked... Must be a brain-f*rt on my part! Thanks a lot for confirming! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sed programming question
Kevin Martin wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option but could not make it work as an AND operator: # echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}' goo har $ rpm -q sed sed-4.1.5-11.fc10.x86_64 $ echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}' foo har $ echo foo har | sed -e s/foo/goo/g -e s/har/bar/g goo bar Is this what you're trying to do? Kevin No. The result should be: (foo AND har) = (10)=0 so the inside nested brackets should not be allowed to run and the original string (foo har) is returned. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Sed programming question
I think sed can handle relational operators, but I have not been able to figure it out. Am I correct in assuming that sed can use relational operators such as OR (|) or AND ()? Here is an example, but does not work: echo The | sed -e '/(the)|(THE)|(The)/i\ GOOD!' I tried looking up examples on the Internet, but could not find it. My brain is getting real mushy. Kind regards, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sed programming question
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 10Dec2008 18:39, Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think sed can handle relational operators, but I have not been able to figure it out. Am I correct in assuming that sed can use relational operators such as OR (|) or AND ()? Here is an example, but does not work: echo The | sed -e '/(the)|(THE)|(The)/i\ GOOD!' I tried looking up examples on the Internet, but could not find it. My brain is getting real mushy. Sed doesn't directly do relational operators. _If_ you are using GNU sed _and_ you use the -r option, then you have extended/full regular expressions, and they support | (alternation, like OR). is not AND, it's a substitution syntax for what was matched by the left hand regexp, eg: s/bill/ and ted/ You can only do AND by nesting multiple pattern matches: /foo/{ /bar/{ ... do stuff for foo AND bar } } although you can fake it at some performance expense thus: /(foo.*bah|bah.*foo)/{ ... do stuff for foo AND bar } This gets combinatorially worse for each additional AND you try to fake; you are better off nesting matches as in the previous example. Have you considered joining the sed-users list? Cheers, Wow, thanks a lot! I certainly realize now that relational operators are quite limited with sed, which is why there weren't any examples offered over the Internet! Duh oh! Thanks for the tip regarding joining the sed-users group! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How can I open-with over an NTFS filesystem?
I have via Nautilus (Places-)Network, mounted a remote NTFS file-system from a Windows Server and it brings up the Nautilus Browser showing the contents of the file to be viewed. What I would like to do is to do a 'tail' on a log file therein which is a text-file that has embedded ANSI Color Escape Sequences (ACES) (of which tail is the only application that I know of that supports ACES) but for some reason or another I simply cannot open the ACES file with a custom tail or with any application provided by the items in the Open-With menu. If tried to use 'Open-with: Text Editor' (which 'gedit'), I get the following error message: Could not open the file /home/dant/.gvfs/d$ on o…ventSink/Logs/Tracker.log using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding. I tried all sorts of other locales, but nothing I tried seemed to work. I noted, that gedit had no problems opening a non-ACES log file right next to the ACES and it worked. So it seems that ACES is a problem with the editors that I have tried. So, I copied over the ACES file from the NTFS filesystem onto my desktop, and tried to open this ACES file with gedit, and it crashed quite horribly - and it did however popped up a dialog box saying in effect that the file in question was not a text file, but a binary file. The next thing I tried was to open a Gnome terminal window, and issue a tail -f Desktop/Tracker.log and no problems, it worked - just that I haven't figured out how to do this over the mounted NFTS file-system. So, my question is, with what application can I use, if any, that supports ACES, preferably with a tail? Kind regards, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can I open-with over an NTFS filesystem?
Dan Thurman wrote: I have via Nautilus (Places-)Network, mounted a remote NTFS file-system from a Windows Server and it brings up the Nautilus Browser showing the contents of the file to be viewed. What I would like to do is to do a 'tail' on a log file therein which is a text-file that has embedded ANSI Color Escape Sequences (ACES) (of which tail is the only application that I know of that supports ACES) but for some reason or another I simply cannot open the ACES file with a custom tail or with any application provided by the items in the Open-With menu. If tried to use 'Open-with: Text Editor' (which 'gedit'), I get the following error message: Could not open the file /home/dant/.gvfs/d$ on o…ventSink/Logs/Tracker.log using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding. I tried all sorts of other locales, but nothing I tried seemed to work. I noted, that gedit had no problems opening a non-ACES log file right next to the ACES and it worked. So it seems that ACES is a problem with the editors that I have tried. So, I copied over the ACES file from the NTFS filesystem onto my desktop, and tried to open this ACES file with gedit, and it crashed quite horribly - and it did however popped up a dialog box saying in effect that the file in question was not a text file, but a binary file. The next thing I tried was to open a Gnome terminal window, and issue a tail -f Desktop/Tracker.log and no problems, it worked - just that I haven't figured out how to do this over the mounted NFTS file-system. So, my question is, with what application can I use, if any, that supports ACES, preferably with a tail? Kind regards, Dan Hmm... with a stroke of luck, I discovered that with wildcards, I solved my problem like this: tail -f $HOME/.gvfs/d*/Prog*/Exch*/Event*/Lo*/Tracker* I noted, that if I tried to type in the full pathname explicitly, all bets are off, and this is where the wild-card (*) came in handy. I wonder why though, that I could not type in the pathname explicitly. But hey, whatever - it worked! Kind regards! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
I am testing convmv and need some example non-utf-8 filenames.
I have been scratching my head and tried all sorts of what I thought were non-utf-8 filenames but I am never sure that the filenames that I have tried are truly non-utf-8 filenames. ... and yes, I have searched everywhere in the Internet looking and trying all sorts of filenames but was unable to get conmv to recognize and convert them in my scripts. So, can anyone here provide me some sample filenames I can try? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I am testing convmv and need some example non-utf-8 filenames.
Todd Zullinger wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I have been scratching my head and tried all sorts of what I thought were non-utf-8 filenames but I am never sure that the filenames that I have tried are truly non-utf-8 filenames. ... and yes, I have searched everywhere in the Internet looking and trying all sorts of filenames but was unable to get conmv to recognize and convert them in my scripts. So, can anyone here provide me some sample filenames I can try? Why not use convmv to convert some files *from* utf8 to some other charset first? For example, $ touch /tmp/æ-convmv-test $ convmv --notest -f utf8 -t iso8859-1 /tmp/æ-convmv-test Your Perl version has fleas #37757 #49830 mv /tmp/æ-convmv-test /tmp/?-convmv-test Ready! To convert it back again: $ convmv --notest -t utf8 -f iso8859-1 /tmp/*-convmv-test Your Perl version has fleas #37757 #49830 mv /tmp/?-convmv-test /tmp/æ-convmv-test Ready! Oh, yeah! never crossed my mind! Geez, numbskull that I am! Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to access Nautilus's Network filesystems via shell or 'Open With...'?
I am working on F9 Via Nautilus: 1) Open the Network computer, enter name/password when prompted 2) Select the directory you want to go to 3) And say that you found a log file of interest: Tracker.log Note: the mounted network connection appears on your Desktop as: Drive$ on windows-hostname You then want to do a tail -f on this file. So how can you do this via Gnome shell or even via Nautilus 'Open With...' ? I tried to use a custom command with: 1) tail -f 2) xterm -e tail -f 3) xterm -e tail -f Tracker.log And none of these worked, at least I cannot SEE (1) and for xterm, it cannot exec tail -f. But I noticed that, when I ran (1) tail -f, the interesting thing is that tail -f was shown as a process, and it said: tail -f /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log Since I could not see the tail results, I killed the tail process ID and then tried in a Gnome Terminal: tail -f /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log and it worked! However, not long afterwards, I got a message: tail: /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log: \ Transport endpoint is not connected tail: no files remaining Hmm... any ideas what I can try? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Strange 'find' case?
Todd Zullinger wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: So, my question is, how do I get around this issue - to either write a script to convert these files to a `sane' encoded characters or change something like the Language environment that the OS can handle any encoded file names? The default charset used for files is utf-8. The convmv program can help you convert filenames from one encoding to another. If you have filenames that are using ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1), for example, you might be able to make find happy using something like this: LANG=en_US.iso88591 find ... But fixing the encodings of the filenames seems like a far better solution. SUPER! Thanks for your reply - now that I have some work to do! ;) Kind regards! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Yum Updates: Today - Pretty good. Just minor Issues (maybe?)
Did a Yum Update today some, 192 files. Two packages: SeaMonkey and Vlc reported: Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/switchdesk.desktop': Key file contains line '? ?' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment Not sure if that is ok... Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. ☺ ☹ poc Maybe off topic? How about the other way around? What if you want to, say translate unicode characters to english? I have song files that have unicode characters and some for which I have no idea what it is supposed to represent. For example, some song files have this image of a box with binary numbers in them, supposedly a unicode character, and I thought of simply deleting them, but I'd like to know what they really are and if they can be translated into english? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Alan Cox wrote: For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into `u' for example. Others may have strange looking unicode and I have That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules. You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts in current Fedora. You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid character. no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing what it is in the first place - so how do I find out? The unlaut is sometimes obvious - but others are not. So is there a way to show this? As I said, Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly. I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is? The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up on the unicode web site. Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ? It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0 is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8. Alan Thanks for the tip! I will review the link you gave me (already started!) Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Alan Cox wrote: How about the other way around? What if you want to, say translate unicode characters to english? I have I'm not sure what you mean by to English, Unicode is a character encoding not a language dependant encoding. You can look up unicode symbols on www.unicode.org, you probably need the right fonts installed that is all. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into `u' for example. Others may have strange looking unicode and I have no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing what it is in the first place - so how do I find out? The unlaut is sometimes obvious - but others are not. So is there a way to show this? As I said, I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is? Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I create 6 pages?
Steven W. Orr wrote: On Friday, Oct 31st 2008 at 00:10 -, quoth Anoop: =Hi Steven, = =On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = On my F9 task bar I have a pager widget, but I can't figure out how to = increase the number of pages. I'd like to get to 6. =For that you have to increase number of desktops. You can increase them from =System Settings - Desktop - Multiple Desktops = =Thanks, =Anoop Now I see the problem. I don't have Desktop - Multiple Desktops. What I have looks like this Appearance Windows Window Decorations Buttons Theme Manager Colors Scheme Color Effects Style Style Effects Toolbar Splash Screen Fonts Icons Desktop Desktop Effects General All Effects Launch Feedback Screensaver Notifications System notifications Applications Player Settings System Bell Window Behaviour Window Specific Window Behavior Focus Titlebar Actions Window Actions Moving Advanced Any ideas? Am I missing something? Do I have to pay extra ;-) Unless I am missing something, are you talking about Workspace Switcher? If so, then move mouse over the workspace switcher, right mouse button click, then select Preferences. In the pop up Preferences menu, increase Number of Workspaces If not, sorry to bother you! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:14:43 -0500, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be _really_ nice if the installer could be re-run in this situation, offering to fix only the things that needed to be fixed (re-detect hardware, build a working initrd, install grub, fix your modprobe.conf and check your fstab and network setup). You can do this gunk by hand, but it means you have to know as much as anaconda (which doesn't seem to be all that well documented...) about hardware and drivers. You can sort-of get most of the effect by making /boot a I would think you could fix things up with a rescue disk pretty easily. The rescue kernel will have the needed device drivers and you can chroot to /mnt/sysimage and then run mkinitrd to fix up the initrd img files. If the architecure and disk layout is the same this should cover most of your configuration. Things that are missing are mostly going to be per user preferences on which dvd drive is the default and the like. I tried this: 1) Boot F9 LiveCD 2) Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 for text mode login 3) log in as root 4) mkdir /tmp/sysroot 5) mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sysroot (sda7 = root partition) 6) mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sysroot/boot (sda6 = boot partition) 7) chroot /mnt/sysroot 8) cd /boot 9) mkdir orig 10) mv initrd* orig 11) mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 Note: the following message was spit out after running mkinitrd: # resolveDevice: device spec expexted # resolveDevice: device spec expexted I think that perhaps something is wrong here as seen below when the kernel fails to start with this new initrd 12) chcon -u system_u initrd-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 13) exit 14) umount /mnt/sysroot/boot 15) umount /mnt/sysroot 16) reboot On rebooting, then grub starts. Headers showing grub specific selection for vmlinuz initrd and the details are displayed, then Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. Booting the Kernel. Redhat nash version 6.0.52 starting Mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or directory setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory setuproot: moving /proc failed: No such file or directory setuproot: moving /sys failed: No such file or directory Mount failed for selinixfs on /selinix: No such file or directory switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory I next went back and restored the original initrd and it booted fine as before I created new mkinitrd, although the hardware devices are still wrong (sound, for example). So... what's next? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora installation
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:37 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote: hello all, I am interested in installing fedora on a laptop x61t (it is, to the best of my understanding, a 64bit machine.) a few questions I have: * should 60-80 GB be reasonable for full installation of fedora? The full system itself will use under 10GB. How much else you need depends on what you're doing with it. [snip!] poc As poc says, it depends on what you want to do with it. For me, all updates were chosen: games, development, X11, X-window managers, sendmail, dns, and *many* services and with exception to virtual machines and clustering, plus livna non-free for music/video repos, I total aprox 66GB used space, so for all of my Fedora/Ubuntu systems, I carve out approx, 75-100GB for my root partitions. But this is probably extreme for a normal user. I am sure if I went after all in livna with MythTV and other apps, it would require more space, but then you can get another big drive for that or make sure you get the biggest drive available for your type of system (some laptops may only get one drive unless you plan to carry around a USB drive) esp. if you want an archive of music/video files. But your mileage may vary and it depends on what you want. If no X11/gui system then root filesystem can have a very small footprint. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9
Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. I'll tell you the same thing here that I tell folks in the #fedora IRC channel: Both distros have live media. Why don't you download them and try out each and decide for yourself which one you like? kevin Good advice. I was installing Linux for a friend, and figured I'd give them Ubuntu as I it would hopefully be easier for them than Fedora. Tried the LiveCD, kept freezing up (requiring hard restarts). Did an install figuring I just needed to update to a new kernel, pre and post full system update, still kept hard freezing. So I went back to old faithful Fedora. Yeah, well, I discovered for me, the freezup is caused by screensaver. When you boot up, go directly to screensaver and disable it completely. After that - it stayed up all night and into the next day and to the evening. One thing I like about the Ubuntu LiveCD is that they included partition manager - something that is lacking in Fedora's F9 LiveCD but then again, Ubuntu lacks mkinitrd which is available in F9. So, I guess it is the small difference. Also, as for F9, they have newer applications for which Ubuntu is behind for example parition manager they have does not support labeling and Nautilus is older - but then again Ubuntu has a longer shelf-life and of course you have to wait for newer updates if and when they become available or build it yourself. I guess from my standpoint Ubuntu is very good with support, they are somewhat more stable and not a fast-moving target which could upset people who don't want instability too quick and too soon (like my kids or Mom and Pop who are computer illiterate) Both Ubuntu and Fedora are fabulous, but I am still a die-hard Fedorian ;) Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.
Hum... I cannot figure out how to fix this particular issue. I have tried to look for information in forums and mailers but have not found any solutions to this. Can you take a look at the following and perhaps you might already know of a solution? /var/log/messages: == Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Error setting value for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Unable to store a value at key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages', as the configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was launched), logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back in may help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at once, and ORBit still has its default configuration that prevents remote CORBA connections - put ORBIIOPIPv4=1 in /etc/orbitrc. As always, check the user.* syslog for details on problems gconfd encountered. There can only be one gconfd per home directory, and it must own a lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also lockfiles in individual storage locations such as ~/.gconf Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: CRITICAL: gdm_option_widget_set_default_item: assertion `item == NULL || gdm_option_widget_lookup_item (widget, item, NULL, NULL, NULL)' failed Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Could not open saved state file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Permission denied Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Exiting Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): starting (version 2.22.0), pid 15784 user 'admin' Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readwrite:/home/admin/.gconf to a writable configuration source at position 1 Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only configuration source at position 2 == 1) Not sure how to set the gconf key and path /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages and /apps does not exist. 2) Seems that gconf path file is there: # cd /etc/gconf/2 # ls evoldap.conf local-defaults.path local-mandatory.path path 3) gconfd was not doubly started, AFAIK - checked pgrep gconfd and only one processID exist. 4) There are no locks located in ~/.gconf*/*locks I have removed and reinstalled gdm but that did not help. Not sure what to do at this point... Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.
Dan Thurman wrote: Hum... I cannot figure out how to fix this particular issue. I have tried to look for information in forums and mailers but have not found any solutions to this. Can you take a look at the following and perhaps you might already know of a solution? /var/log/messages: == Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Error setting value for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Unable to store a value at key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages', as the configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was launched), logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back in may help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at once, and ORBit still has its default configuration that prevents remote CORBA connections - put ORBIIOPIPv4=1 in /etc/orbitrc. As always, check the user.* syslog for details on problems gconfd encountered. There can only be one gconfd per home directory, and it must own a lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also lockfiles in individual storage locations such as ~/.gconf Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: CRITICAL: gdm_option_widget_set_default_item: assertion `item == NULL || gdm_option_widget_lookup_item (widget, item, NULL, NULL, NULL)' failed Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Could not open saved state file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Permission denied Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Exiting Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): starting (version 2.22.0), pid 15784 user 'admin' Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readwrite:/home/admin/.gconf to a writable configuration source at position 1 Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only configuration source at position 2 == 1) Not sure how to set the gconf key and path /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages and /apps does not exist. 2) Seems that gconf path file is there: # cd /etc/gconf/2 # ls evoldap.conf local-defaults.path local-mandatory.path path 3) gconfd was not doubly started, AFAIK - checked pgrep gconfd and only one processID exist. 4) There are no locks located in ~/.gconf*/*locks I have removed and reinstalled gdm but that did not help. Not sure what to do at this point... Thanks! Dan Sorry, I missed the very beginning of gdm start, so here it is... Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): starting (version 2.22.0), pid 15650 user 'gdm' Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to load source xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf: Couldn't resolve address for configuration source: Can't read from or write to the XML root directory in the address xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system to a read-only configuration source at position 1 Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address xml:readonly:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf.mandatory to a read-only configuration source at position 2 Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only configuration source at position 3 Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings will not be possible Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): No writable configuration sources successfully resolved. May be unable to save some configuration changes Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Unable to open saved state file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state': Permission denied Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state file
Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to restore listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied) might be useful to look at output of rpm -Vq gdm Craig # rpm -Vq gdm S.5T c /etc/gdm/custom.conf .MG./var/log/gdm I have no idea what it means! ;) Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.
Dan Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to restore listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied) might be useful to look at output of rpm -Vq gdm Craig # rpm -Vq gdm S.5T c /etc/gdm/custom.conf .MG./var/log/gdm I have no idea what it means! ;) Thanks! Dan Here is more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dant]# cd /etc/gdm [EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# diff custom.conf custom.conf.rpmnew 4,7d3 Enable=true Willing=/etc/gdm/Xwilling Xaccess=/etc/gdm/Xaccess Port=177 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -lZ custom.conf custom.conf.rpmnew -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 custom.conf -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 custom.conf.rpmnew [EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -ldZ /var/log/gdm drwxrwx--T root gdm system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm [EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -lZ /var/log/gdm -rw-r--r-- 106 114 system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :0-greeter.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :0.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :1.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :2.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :3.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :4.log -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :5.log Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:30 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to restore listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied) might be useful to look at output of rpm -Vq gdm Craig # rpm -Vq gdm S.5T c /etc/gdm/custom.conf .MG./var/log/gdm I have no idea what it means! ;) might be useful to read the man page for rpm # cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf # GDM configuration storage [xdmcp] [chooser] [security] [debug] # ls -ld /var/log/gdm drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-29 08:05 /var/log/gdm I honestly don't know what you are doing with the config/permissions and these are clearly defaults because I use kdm and not gdm. Craig FYI: I did consult the man pages after I posted that comment and before Patrick replied because I really cannot remember off the top of my head what the details were. I can understand what rpm is reporting - and yes, there are differences and since I am using Gnome, perhaps permissions will be different, I just don't know yet. I have another F9 system that does not report the errors in the log messages and the Gdm files and permissions are exactly the same between the two systems as far as the gdm log directory and custom files go. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere and we are only seeing it's symptoms. As for the difference in custom.conf against custome.conf.rpmnew, it is simply that I turned on XDMCP so that I can remotely connect to the system and there is no other additions in that file. I will however try to see if chmod 755 will work or not. Will post when I find out more. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?
Les Mikesell wrote: Mike wrote: Dan Thurman dant at cdkkt.com writes: What happened was that I spent a lot of time configuring computer A, and rsync'd the root filesystem onto disk at computer B. I then rsync'd from hard disk to computer C and everything was fine except that the hardware is clearly different. I am not sure that copying the root partition from one machine to another is a good way to install Linux. Was there some special reason not to use one of the normal install methods from the DVD or Live CD? The usual reason for doing this is that you have done extensive configuration and/or installed local or 3rd party software that would take a lot of time to repeat. Or you just want to know how things will work out if you have to restore from your backups on a new machine. Or maybe your computer died and you really do have to restore from backups now. Well said! Or, you installed under VMware with a different host OS to test usability and now that you know everything works, you want to migrate your working setup to real hardware. Yup! It would be _really_ nice if the installer could be re-run in this situation, offering to fix only the things that needed to be fixed (re-detect hardware, build a working initrd, install grub, fix your modprobe.conf and check your fstab and network setup). You can do this gunk by hand, but it means you have to know as much as anaconda (which doesn't seem to be all that well documented...) about hardware and drivers. You can sort-of get most of the effect by making /boot a separate partition, doing a basic install on the new hardware, then removing everything except /boot and copying in your old stuff, but that seems unnecessarily cumbersome. Perfect! Also... 1) To test and see if rsync would work in restoring crashed, update-damaged, user or act of god missing/destroyed filesystem or broken hard disk as a backup/restore method. 2) Clone rsync'd filesystems to other computers to save a LOT of time, which remains to be seen. I discovered that the reason for the text-screen/gui-screen flip-flop was that I created a new xorg.conf file to reflect the new graphics hardware and used the Xorg --configure command to create the xorg.conf file which was placed in ~/xorg.conf.new. I then copied this file to /etc/X11, rebooted, and there was flip-flopping. I read on a forum that in F9, you simply do not have to have xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and xorg would automatically find and setup the graphics. Ok, so I renamed xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak, rebooted, and lo and behold! It worked! So the problem is figuring out how to create a xorg.conf file that will work properly - although I could just leave it missing in /etc/X11 but what are the consequences in doing that? Then, I redid the steps 1-4, rebooted and firstboot comes up! However When I got to the last step for Hardware profiles, it came up with a blank textbox showing no hardware! Hmm... I pressed the Back button hoping that it would redo the hardware profiling - no luck! So, how can I force a new hardware profiling? BTW: Ever since I had been rebooting since the first time I rsync'd root into my partition, HAL failed to start and I have not been able to get this to work on boot. When I was fully booted, logged in as a normal user, became root and issued the command: /usr/sbin/hald --verbose=yes hald had started with no errors what gives? All of my services started with no errors except for hal. So at this point, I am left wondering if all of my hardware was even detected and updated (which I doubt), the xorg.conf question, and that the hal daemon fails to start at boot time. Seems this is all (so far) that I need to resolve. Any ideas on where I can go from here? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?
What happened was that I spent a lot of time configuring computer A, and rsync'd the root filesystem onto disk at computer B. I then rsync'd from hard disk to computer C and everything was fine except that the hardware is clearly different. My X came up fine (I manually ran Xorg -configure, but as for the rest of the hardware such as sound and other hardware was clearly not the same so I used firstboot. The instructions were: 1) mv /etc/sysconfig/firstboot /etc/sysconfig/firstboot.bak 2) rm /etc/sysconfig/firstboot 3) chkconfig --level 34 firstboot on 4) reboot On rebooting, the screen starts in text screen, then flips over to gui screen, then back to text screen, repeatedly, forever 5) If 1-4 does not work, then: touch /etc/reconfigSys 6) reboot Same thing. I searched the websites and could not find a solution. So how can I reconfigure computer C hardware and general setup (keyboard, mouse, sound, ...)? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....
I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs, I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user, rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after udev. I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that user anacron did not exist, and the system would then shutdown and reboot. On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single user boot was successful. In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing, and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things: 1) There was a message to the effect that several important users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved from dbus's database. The message appears too fast for me to write it all down exactly. 2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message bus configuration file, for each important users. Is there some way to repair the dbus database? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....
Dan Thurman wrote: I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs, I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user, rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after udev. I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that user anacron did not exist, and the system would then shutdown and reboot. On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single user boot was successful. In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing, and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things: 1) There was a message to the effect that several important users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved from dbus's database. The message appears too fast for me to write it all down exactly. 2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message bus configuration file, for each important users. Is there some way to repair the dbus database? Thanks! Dan I forgot to add: 3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other services but continues on to the text login prompt. Attempts login as root or any normal user will fail. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....
Dan Thurman wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs, I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user, rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after udev. I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that user anacron did not exist, and the system would then shutdown and reboot. On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single user boot was successful. In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing, and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things: 1) There was a message to the effect that several important users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved from dbus's database. The message appears too fast for me to write it all down exactly. 2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message bus configuration file, for each important users. Is there some way to repair the dbus database? Thanks! Dan I forgot to add: 3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other services but continues on to the text login prompt. Attempts login as root or any normal user will fail. Dan Um... interesting When I added selinix=0 to the grub command line for the kernel, I was able to get my qui and logins to work seems there is something going on with SELinux and dbus Can someone help me fix this issue? Should I remove and reinstall SELinux/DBUS? I will wait until I get advice here before attempting this step Thanks again, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....
Dan Thurman wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs, I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user, rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after udev. I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that user anacron did not exist, and the system would then shutdown and reboot. On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single user boot was successful. In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing, and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things: 1) There was a message to the effect that several important users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved from dbus's database. The message appears too fast for me to write it all down exactly. 2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message bus configuration file, for each important users. Is there some way to repair the dbus database? Thanks! Dan I forgot to add: 3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other services but continues on to the text login prompt. Attempts login as root or any normal user will fail. Dan Um... interesting When I added selinix=0 to the grub command line for the kernel, I was able to get my qui and logins to work seems there is something going on with SELinux and dbus Can someone help me fix this issue? Should I remove and reinstall SELinux/DBUS? I will wait until I get advice here before attempting this step Thanks again, Dan Ok, I solved this problem but it is interesting to note... 1) Boot in single user mode 2) touch /.autorelabel 3) reboot 4) When grub comes up, stop and edit the kernel line and add -s (single user mode) 5) Booting in single user mode ensures that selinux will be able to relabel the files. If you do not boot in single user mode, then normal booting will not allow selinx to work and to relabel these files! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....
Timothy Murphy wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs, I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user, rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after udev. Aren't we meant to use vipw and vigr to edit these files? On editing from vigr one is asked to run vigr -s to edit the shadow file. Interesting! I had NO IDEA if this is the case, being a user of older Unix systems. Thanks for the tip, I'll know better now! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Desktop Effect and Compiz: How to manually disable it?
I have enabled 'Desktop Effects' (Compiz) and tried it out and it looks pretty cool. I was able to logout and log back in, everything is fine. Next, I used the Compiz Configuration Tool (cscm), added a few more bells and whistles, and I did not get any immediate changes after closing the cscm dialog window. But I was curious about emerald, so I used the command-line command for emerald and cool - I had emerald window wraps! Then I logged off and logged back in - and got the dreaded windows white screen of death! Rats. There was no windows cursors and nothing seemed to work (mouse clicks and random keystrokes) until I hit ALT-S - and the mouse cursor popped in - but still, the screen stayed white. I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and the window logged out and the GUI login screen appeared. Next, I logged in as a different user that did not have desktop effects (Compiz) enabled, so everything was fine. My question is, is there a command-line command or can I manually disable Desktop-Effects (Compiz) for that user where it failed (since obviously I cannot use the the user's desktop window to disable desktop-effects)? I would like to restore this user (it is not mine!) to a sane state and try a temporary user to resolve this problem for later. I searched everywhere for a solution and even posted my problem on Compiz's Forum waiting for a resolution, but I wanted to post this specific request here seeking the answer to manually disable the desktop-effects. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Desktop Effect and Compiz: How to manually disable it? [SOLVED (sort of)]
Dan Thurman wrote: I have enabled 'Desktop Effects' (Compiz) and tried it out and it looks pretty cool. I was able to logout and log back in, everything is fine. Next, I used the Compiz Configuration Tool (cscm), added a few more bells and whistles, and I did not get any immediate changes after closing the cscm dialog window. But I was curious about emerald, so I used the command-line command for emerald and cool - I had emerald window wraps! Then I logged off and logged back in - and got the dreaded windows white screen of death! Rats. There was no windows cursors and nothing seemed to work (mouse clicks and random keystrokes) until I hit ALT-S - and the mouse cursor popped in - but still, the screen stayed white. I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and the window logged out and the GUI login screen appeared. Next, I logged in as a different user that did not have desktop effects (Compiz) enabled, so everything was fine. My question is, is there a command-line command or can I manually disable Desktop-Effects (Compiz) for that user where it failed (since obviously I cannot use the the user's desktop window to disable desktop-effects)? I would like to restore this user (it is not mine!) to a sane state and try a temporary user to resolve this problem for later. I searched everywhere for a solution and even posted my problem on Compiz's Forum waiting for a resolution, but I wanted to post this specific request here seeking the answer to manually disable the desktop-effects. Thanks! Dan I gave up trying to fix it. I did locate: ~/.gnome2/sessions, deleted this file, and then had to go back in as this user (the white screen of death went away), but had to set everything up again which was quicker than trying to pick through the mess and waste even more time. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
Claude Jones wrote: On Sun October 19 2008 12:12:35 am Matthew Flaschen wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate to load every time. I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: '12.x.x.x' NoScript is not going to help you get Java working. g should have been more clear about that. I would recommend uninstalling it at least until you solve your original problem. As Nigel noted, you will probably have to install Sun Java in order to use your site. There are many tutorials specifically about this, such as http://www.ilovetux.com/2008/05/fedora-9-sun-java-on-fedora-9-install.html . Matt Flaschen I hope this question is related to the discussion, sufficiently. Since it pertains to switching from gcj to sun java, I think it does. I found several problems with that page you link to, and solved them, but, I'm not sure if what I did was correct. First, the version numbers included in the various commands have to be adjusted since the actual version you download from the site has progressed beyond the one that's used in the suggested commands - that's fairly trivial, but needs to be pointed out. Once I sorted that out, I could not find an elegant way to turn off gcj; my first inclination was to remove it, but, that led to a request to delete about 25 other packages from my machine for dependencies - I stopped that. Then I tried to remove the plug-in from Mozilla - creating the linked file to the java, as suggested by one of the commands on that linked page, had already produced a message that the file existed, so I suppose that libjavaplugin_oji.so was being used by gcj; I renamed that file and then ran the link command again - that appeared to be successful and produced the appearance of Sun Java in the plug-in list in Firefox; but, the gcj plug-in was still there, and attempts to use the ATT Relay site continued to fail; then I renamed a second plug-in in the mozilla plug-in folder called libjavaplugin.so - that didn't work, because it was simply a link to another *.so file somewhere I suppose, so gcj continued to appear in my plug-in list in Firefox - finally, I just created a folder inside the Mozilla plug-in folder called 'old' and moved the now renamed files 'libjavaplugin_oji.so.gcj' and 'libjavaplugin.so.gcj' to this folder, and that finally solved the problem. Now, the only java that appears in my Firefox plug-in list is the one from Sun, and the ATT Relay site works perfectly. So, my question is, was there some better way of accomplishing this end? If not, this is not what one could call a simple solution, and that page you linked to will definitely NOT get the desired result without a lot of hacking. I'm betting I came up with a kludge, and there must be a better way. -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD Gawd. What a tough nut to crack, but I got it. The relaycall.com site does not work with F9's OpenJdk, at least for me. But after installing Sun's Java and configuring the /etc/alternatives using galternatives, I was able to get this site working now. 1) You do not need to create the libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin directory as I have tested this. Use galternatives to set this link (libjavaplugin.so) to Sun's plugin and the link is updated properly in /etc/alternatives directory. 2) After you have installed Sun's Java, you still need to make sure that the /etc/alternatives contains information to Sun's Java installation. To do that, use the nifty tool: galternatives: 1) run: galternatives 2) Click on left pane: java If: /usr/java/jrel1.6.0_07/bin/java on right pane is not there, then Click; Add, then Browse, and add the path in. You can set the priority as desired. Be sure to click the radio-button on the correct version you want to use! 3) Click on left pane: libjavaplugin.so If: /usr/java/jrel1.6.0_07/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so on the right pane is not there, then Click: Add, then Browse, and add the path in. You can set the priority as desired. Be sure to click the radio-button on the correct version you want to use! 4) After configuring as above, you need to restart FF since the changes are not dynamically updated within FF. Cheers, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java installed on F9? If so, what steps do I need to take in order to make it work? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java installed on F9? If so, what steps do I need to take in order to make it work? Thanks! Dan Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the dust) ;) I DID search but could not figure it out. Now, back to what some have asked: 1) Try this site: http://www.relaycall.com (it's for deaf people who are trying to reach non-deaf people over the phone) and it complains (for me) : Error - You must enable Java to use ATT Relay Services. 2) about:plugins (Long list!) Note: I do have all of GCJ/Iced-Tea modules (or so it seems) File name: gcjwebplugin.so The GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) executes Java applets. See below for all the Yes for specifics. DivX Browser Plug-In File name: gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so Gecko Media Player 0.8.0 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled video/divx DivX Media Format divx Yes video/vnd.divx DivX Media Format divx Yes QuickTime Plug-in 7.4.5 File name: gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so Gecko Media Player 0.8.0 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled video/quicktime Quicktime mov Yes video/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes image/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes video/quicktime Quicktime mp4 Yes video/quicktime Quicktime - Session Description Protocol sdp Yes application/x-quicktimeplayer Quicktime mov Yes RealPlayer 9 File name: gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so Gecko Media Player 0.8.0 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio RealAudio ram,rm Yes application/vnd.rn-realmedia RealMedia rm Yes application/vnd.rn-realaudio RealAudio ra,ram Yes video/vnd.rn-realvideo RealVideo rv Yes audio/x-realaudio RealAudio ra Yes audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealAudio rpm Yes application/smil SMIL smil Yes Windows Media Player Plug-in File name: gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.8.0 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/asx Media Files * Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes video/x-msvideo AVI avi,* Yes video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes application/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media wvx,* Yes audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes application/x-drm-v2 Windows Media asx,* Yes audio/wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes gecko-mediaplayer 0.8.0 File name: gecko-mediaplayer.so Gecko Media Player 0.8.0 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled video/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes video/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes video/x-mpeg2 MPEG2 mpv2,mp2ve Yes audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes audio/x-mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes audio/mp4 MPEG 4 audio mp4 Yes audio/x-mp4 MPEG 4 audio mp4 Yes video/mp4 MPEG 4 Video mp4 Yes video/x-m4v MPEG 4 Video m4v Yes video/3gpp MPEG 4 Video mp4,3gp Yes audio/mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes audio/x-mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes audio/x-mpegurl MPEG url m3u Yes audio/mp3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes application/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Media ogg Yes audio/ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes audio/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes application/ogg Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora ogg Yes audio/flac FLAC Audio flac Yes audio
Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the dust) ;) he is just having another bad day. we all have them at one time or other. his just tend to be more often. ;o) when he is having a good day, his help can be tremendous. i can really attest to that for help he has given to me. now, back to your problem, 2) about:plugins (Long list!) could have been shorter with just java. my java: application/x-java-vm application/x-java-applet application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.5 application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_16 application/x-java-bean application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.5 application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.5.0_16 being that i have 'noscript' installed, all i had to do was click 'allow relaycall.com', plus the 2 url number addresses and all worked. you may want to log https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 then click 'add to firefox'. it will make you life a lot more enjoyable. plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate to load every time. I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: '12.x.x.x' (but there was no second address that I could see) and the site still thinks there is no Java installed or so it seems. Not sure what is wrong at this point. Anything I can try or report? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
Dan Thurman wrote: g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the dust) ;) he is just having another bad day. we all have them at one time or other. his just tend to be more often. ;o) when he is having a good day, his help can be tremendous. i can really attest to that for help he has given to me. now, back to your problem, 2) about:plugins (Long list!) could have been shorter with just java. my java: application/x-java-vm application/x-java-applet application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 application/x-java-applet;version=1.5 application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_16 application/x-java-bean application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2 application/x-java-bean;version=1.5 application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.5.0_16 being that i have 'noscript' installed, all i had to do was click 'allow relaycall.com', plus the 2 url number addresses and all worked. you may want to log https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 then click 'add to firefox'. it will make you life a lot more enjoyable. plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate to load every time. I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: '12.x.x.x' (but there was no second address that I could see) and the site still thinks there is no Java installed or so it seems. Not sure what is wrong at this point. Anything I can try or report? One more thing and I cannot seem to figure what this message in yellow and at the bottom of the page means: Scripts Partially Allowed 1/2 (relaycall.com) | SCRIPT : 2 | OBJECT : 0 Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Grub and Chainloaders
I have successfully arranged Grubs in the following way: -Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended-- [boot-sys] [boot-f8] [boot-f9] [ [root-f8] [root-f9] [f-App1] [swap] ] boot-sys: [...] #boot=/dev/sda timeout=10 default=saved splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz #hiddenmenu title Fedora 8 norootverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 title Fedora 9 norootverify (hd0,2) chainloader +1 boot-sys has grub/grub.conf but no initrd/kernels installed and boot-f8/9 partitions has the normal initrd/kernel/grub.conf installed. It all works great. But on a different system, I tried a different setup: -Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended-- [XP ] [ Vista ] [boot-sys] [ [w-app1] [boot-f9] [boot-f10] [root-f9] [root-f10] [f-App1] [swap] ] boot-sys: - I left the original f9 xinitrd/kermel/grub.conf in boot-sys and modified boot-sys's grub.conf as follows: boot-sys: [...] #boot=/dev/sda timeout=10 default=saved splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz #hiddenmenu title Fedora 9 norootverify (hd0,4) chainloader +1 savedefault title Fedora (2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 ro root=LABEL=root-f9 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.img savedefault I can boot F9 via the second title definition, but when I attempt to boot using the first title definition (using chainloader +1), grub complains: Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format Thinking that the chainloader +1 was not finding the right partition, I assumed that +1 means to locate the next partition, so I tried values of 2,3,4, and 5 and they all reported the same error. I wonder if perhaps grub is unable to reach the partition beyond a fixed size (my MB+BIOs is as new as 2 months ago, so I surmise it isn't a BIOS limitation), or grub cannot reach into extended partitions, or if it can, maybe I will need to move the boot-fX to the beginning of the extended partitions. In any case, I know that moving boot-fX into it's own primary partitions works but then I won't be able to add XP or Vista into its own primary partitions and would have to get a second drive separating windows from Fedora which I know will work. But I'd prefer to not to buy a second drive at this time, so the question is, does anyone have any idea what is going on or have any suggestions how to get this to work? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub and Chainloaders [SOLVED]
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have successfully arranged Grubs in the following way: -Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended-- [boot-sys] [boot-f8] [boot-f9] [ [root-f8] [root-f9] [f-App1] [swap] ] boot-sys: [...] #boot=/dev/sda timeout=10 default=saved splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz #hiddenmenu title Fedora 8 norootverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 title Fedora 9 norootverify (hd0,2) chainloader +1 boot-sys has grub/grub.conf but no initrd/kernels installed and boot-f8/9 partitions has the normal initrd/kernel/grub.conf installed. It all works great. But on a different system, I tried a different setup: -Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended-- [XP ] [ Vista ] [boot-sys] [ [w-app1] [boot-f9] [boot-f10] [root-f9] [root-f10] [f-App1] [swap] ] boot-sys: - I left the original f9 xinitrd/kermel/grub.conf in boot-sys and modified boot-sys's grub.conf as follows: boot-sys: [...] #boot=/dev/sda timeout=10 default=saved splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz #hiddenmenu title Fedora 9 norootverify (hd0,4) chainloader +1 savedefault title Fedora (2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 ro root=LABEL=root-f9 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.img savedefault I can boot F9 via the second title definition, but when I attempt to boot using the first title definition (using chainloader +1), grub complains: Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format Thinking that the chainloader +1 was not finding the right partition, I assumed that +1 means to locate the next partition, so I tried values of 2,3,4, and 5 and they all reported the same error. I wonder if perhaps grub is unable to reach the partition beyond a fixed size (my MB+BIOs is as new as 2 months ago, so I surmise it isn't a BIOS limitation), or grub cannot reach into extended partitions, or if it can, maybe I will need to move the boot-fX to the beginning of the extended partitions. In any case, I know that moving boot-fX into it's own primary partitions works but then I won't be able to add XP or Vista into its own primary partitions and would have to get a second drive separating windows from Fedora which I know will work. But I'd prefer to not to buy a second drive at this time, so the question is, does anyone have any idea what is going on or have any suggestions how to get this to work? Sigh. I figured it out by reading through my notes from a previous posting I made some time ago. The step I forgot was to mark each of boot partitions with grub's setup command. Sorry for this posting, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Problems reaching Internet
To make a long story short, I had a crashed my F9 system and now it seems that I cannot figure out why I can reach all of my local LAN systems, but I can no longer reach the Internet. I have the network service running, I have the setup my network via the `network' tool, I have disabled the firewall and I am still not able to reach the Internet. Can someone suggest a list of steps I can try to troubleshoot my problem? I am drawing a blank at this time :( Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Problems reaching Internet [SOLVED]
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: To make a long story short, I had a crashed my F9 system and now it seems that I cannot figure out why I can reach all of my local LAN systems, but I can no longer reach the Internet. I have the network service running, I have the setup my network via the `network' tool, I have disabled the firewall and I am still not able to reach the Internet. Can someone suggest a list of steps I can try to troubleshoot my problem? I am drawing a blank at this time :( What does your routing table look like? Does it have a default route? Thanks- Dan Ah. that was it! I had the wrong default route! Sometimes when sick, it clouds the mind! Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: System hangs after long inactivity.
I have just gotten ahold of my daughter's system and now and looking at why is it, that her system hangs after a long period of inactive use (ie when she goes to bed, goes to work, then comes home to find a hung system). I tried this myself now and find it to be 100% consistent. This problem never occurred before, with the oldest kernel (kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686) and before the massive updates that included new kernels+xorg/ltsp and it only happens with the Intel DQ35J0 but not with the ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 which is my own system? When it hangs, there is no possible way to enter into the system so a forced reset was required. In doing this, it also corrupts the fs, and I am forced to issue a fsck -y to recover the fs which would restore the fs and I would then be able to boot and log into the F9 system, only to find that after a long inactivity, the system would hang again. The last time that I had to repeat this cycle again, I found that the fs reverted to ext2 (previously was ext3), I could no longer boot the fs and got the following boot information: [...] ext3: No Journal on filesystem on sda6 mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3 setuproot: moving /dev/failed: No such file or directory : error mounting /proc: No such file or directory : error mounting /sys: No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory. So, I booted wih F9-Live, and checked out the sda6 filesystem and noted that I was able to review the contents of this filesystem and it appears that the filesystem is all there but there are files saved in the lost+found directory and it was confirmed that the fs is of ext2. Is it possible to use QParted to reconvert the ext2 filesystem back into ext3 without losing the data? If not, then my plan is to use CloneZilla to save the data to an image stored elsewhere and to restore this image into a new ext3 filesystem partition, and hope to recover the data this way or am I wasting my time in doing so? I also checked the BIOs, and noted that 'Wake up on Lan' is enabled and as far as I can tell, there is no possible way for me to disable it. I noticed that someone had reported this same problem, and disabling WOL, would prevent the system from shutting down and hang with the PS still running - so perhaps I am experiencing this same/similar problem previously reported here in this forum. So, why is it, so it seems, that this WOL is now a problem with the newer kernel/updates when it wasn't before - is there something new in the kernel that now recognizes the WOL and does things with it when it wasn't a problem before - or is it something else? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 RHGB Display Has Vanished
Trapper wrote: I have four F9 boxes and all have a unique rhgb problem. I have no rhgb display. Instead of the rhgb screen the boot up falls back to a simple text screen. All grubs call for rhgb. I am current with updates on all machines. It isn't display card specific. This happens with nvidia cards, s3 unichrome cards, etc. Is anyone else having this problem? I've browsed the archives. I can find info about a similar difficulty at one point in F8 but no fix that works with F9. This difficulty has been prevalent for about a month now and I've found no cure. Seems real strange that I have 4 different boxes with the same release acting the same way. Yes, it's been a month+ and no resolution so far. See BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462980 ... and add your complaint there. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates caused problems...
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686 (or newer): - No Gui startup after udev - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target - mount: missing mount point - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory) : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory) : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory) : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory) - switchroot: Mount failed - system hangs Thanks to the RH team for fixing the above non-bootable kernel! Note: The problem of the boot time GUI is not resolved and it appears to be related to the latest xorg updates and no fixes are known at this time, AFAIK. For those of you who have encountered the unbootable kernel with the nfs root target message, here is what you need to do: Using your latest working bootable kernel: === 1) rpm -e ltsp-client (or yum remove ltsp-client) 2) mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-VERSION.img VERSION I have tested the above with kernel versions: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686 2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 and the problems disappears! Note: I did not consciously install ltsp-client and this must have been included in the updates AFTER kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686. Strangely, the problem appeared only with kernels above: 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686 which was installed/updated AFTER 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686. My guess is that initrd was (re)built when ltsp-client was installed just before the new kernels were added. Cheers! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds
Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 09:48 -0500 schrieb Arthur Pemberton: When was the last time you dismantled and cleaned the machine? Arthur: Three monts ago? Seems clean, though. - I changed the memory DIMMs. - Disconnected the machine electrig plug. - Pushed RESET button for about a minute. I repeat: since the power outage, it reboots every 1.00.19, approx. Tim: could not be a cron issue, that would lead to exactly 1 hour rebooting. Every 3 reboots means 3 hours and a minute (look my previous logs). # ls -l /etc/cron.hourly/ total 0 # at -l # uname -r 2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 In order, check: 1) Hardware: Fan. cooling, power-supply starvation, etc. Do not OS boot anything - see if your system shuts down without any OS running. If it does, then it is likely something with your Hardware or your BIOS. 2) BIOS? Any special settings involving CPU/RAM or FAN settings? Check everything in the BIOs to ensure it makes sense 3) Boot from KNOPPIX/Live Fedora and see if system reboots. if your system reboots, check (2) then (1). If the system does not reboot, then continue. 4) Have you done any installs, updates, or manual changes to your OS? You can try to locate the offending software issue or you can start over with a new OS install. You could try booting with a previous kernel version. It is not clear if your problem is due to the kernel, due to installed/updated packages, or due to modifications you made to your system. If you want to fix your existing setup, try divide and conquer method: turning all services off, then enabled one at a time, or turning all essential services are on, and then turn off each service, one at a time. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 - non graphical boot?
Antonio M wrote: 2008/10/5 Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antonio M wrote: with 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 kernel and latest xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-9.fc10, gdm-2.24.0-8.fc10, everything is running fine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines F10? What does that have to do with F9? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines if you look in bugzilla, you will see that both F9 and F10 are/were affected by same bug. And also now my system in F9 is running fine after yesterday's updates (I can't grab it as I am out of home) Really? Yesterday, I did updates too, but it did not work for me - however - I did not get the xorg or kernel updates for f9. Where did you get it? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 - non graphical boot?
Mike wrote: Is it just me or does kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 not give a graphical boot? It is not just you, but me as well. I have Intel graphics chip-sets as I posted this and BZ as well: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465132 My motherboards are: 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333: LGA779, Intel 945GC + ICH7 2) Intel DQ35J0: GMA 3100, Q35 Express Chipset, ICH9DO See my post: Updates caused problems... Note: All of my problems started when the kernel bootup says: ... parsing ELF... For (1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333: The kernel HANGS with kernel versions: kernel-2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686 kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 For 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686: the startup GUI fails but startup text (init) continues on and successfully starts login GUI For (2) Intel DQ35J0: All of the Kernel versions do not hang. The startup GUI fails but startup text (init) continues on and successfully starts login GUI I believe this is related to the xorg updates some time after kernels releases later than kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686 But as for the HANGing - I have NO CLUE what is going on nor why. See my posting for further information as the the boot sequence data therein FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates caused problems...
Antonio M wrote: 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: - No Gui startup after udev - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target - mount: missing mount point - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory) : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory) : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory) : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory) - switchroot: Mount failed - system hangs I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment. did you file a bug??? No. I would even know how to report this and what I need to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved. I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686) and it still hangs. I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686) I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a seperate issue. Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled) because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos. So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and I get for every kmod module, errors similar to the following: Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna) Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users. When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I. I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates caused problems...
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Antonio M wrote: 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: - No Gui startup after udev - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target - mount: missing mount point - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory) : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory) : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory) : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory) - switchroot: Mount failed - system hangs I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment. did you file a bug??? No. I would even know how to report this and what I need to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved. I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686) and it still hangs. I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686) I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a seperate issue. Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled) because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos. So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and I get for every kmod module, errors similar to the following: Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna) Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users. When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I. I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time. The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help. Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's the perfect place for qualified help. Livna has their own support (Bugzilla) http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that you need. Craig What has changed? I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this list no longer says: For Fedora Users, where has this list moved to so that I can get a more technical level of support? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates caused problems...
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Antonio M wrote: 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: - No Gui startup after udev - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target - mount: missing mount point - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory) : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory) : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory) : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory) - switchroot: Mount failed - system hangs I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment. did you file a bug??? No. I would even know how to report this and what I need to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved. I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686) and it still hangs. I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686) I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a seperate issue. Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled) because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos. So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and I get for every kmod module, errors similar to the following: Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna) Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users. When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I. I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time. The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help. Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's the perfect place for qualified help. Livna has their own support (Bugzilla) http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that you need. Craig Clearly: 1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: Does not work for two different motherboards/systems, nor for: Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED] so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me. This kernel is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue. 2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last week) and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and *maybe* later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is not a show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the login gui still appears. 3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper as I have removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna group know about it. It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer available in the repos. Many of the other kmods reported many other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of sync', perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues (1) and (2) Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to do with Livna (so I think). Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique' problems? How does one know if they are unique problems before they post it? And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed to do? What is the point of this mailing list with the following statement: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora You come across as if to to say: go to livna and ignore the the other two problems reported altogether? This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed. I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not, perhaps a link, perhaps what
Re: Updates caused problems...
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:40 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: What has changed? I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this list no longer says: For Fedora Users, where has this list moved to so that I can get a more technical level of support? The only thing that has changed is the name (also I think the list owners, but that's administrivia). poc Thank you for being helpful! So, this list has not really changed and I can assume that this is the right list for me in terms of reporting potential problem/issue as if for confirmation, before going off and filing off false problem reports into Bugzilla. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates caused problems...
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:38 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Clearly: 1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: Does not work for two different motherboards/systems, nor for: Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED] so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me. This kernel is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue. 2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last week) and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and *maybe* later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is not a show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the login gui still appears. 3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper as I have removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna group know about it. It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer available in the repos. Many of the other kmods reported many other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of sync', perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues (1) and (2) Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to do with Livna (so I think). Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique' problems? How does one know if they are unique problems before they post it? And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed to do? What is the point of this mailing list with the following statement: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora You come across as if to to say: go to livna and ignore the the other two problems reported altogether? This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed. I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not, perhaps a link, perhaps what to report, with what expected information, etc, so that at least I am not left perplexed as to what I really need to do next. OK - I too will ignore the livna items I think you can lean on the list all you wish. In fact, you seem to lean on the list excessively but as long as people can and will help you out, that's great. I am not trying to discourage you from using Fedora. This list however does nothing to 'report' problems - that's what bugzilla is for. Craig Thank you for letting me know how you feel. Perhaps I do lean on this list for the reasons stated (1) to discover if the problem reported has already been reported and/or there is a fix and/or someone is working on it and (2) to let anyone know about it so they can benefit from the posting if it concerns them. I know that many have responded asking for details especially if the problem has been resolved by me or if others have resolved it - a networked community helping each other out which is the benefit of using this list in the first place. IMO, there are a few people esp. newbies, go to a Bugzilla site to search for answers to their specific problems - simply because - it is not that simple to find so this mailing list provides them that forum where they can ask about it and hopefully someone might know, and help out. I have been resistant to using Bugzilla because it is a pain for me since I use it so rarely and trying to fill in the fields for which I have not a clue such as to what product/component the product/issue involves, what relevant data to provide which requires an intimate technical detail level that a professional Fedora expert might know which can be beyond a (semi) newbie's depth. But, I will try with each passing day to `get used to it' and maybe it will become easier over time. Kind regards, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: livna update of kmod
don vogt wrote: I suspect I may have missed something in reconfiguring for the new key. I have updated the kernel a couple of times. Once on an fc9 machine with an nvidia card (which needs kmod-nvidia-96xx) and once on fc9 using kqemu. Each time when I boot the system can't find the kmod for my new kernel I tried to update the kmods, with --enable repo =livna, with no luck. I looked on the livna wiki and I have been watching here for something about this situation. help would be appreciated. I am lost. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I reported this as well in my posting: Updates causes problems... It turns out (I think) that livna kmods are built with kernels that are older and fails to be installed via akmod --force as well. Perhaps the builds have not yet caught up with the latest kernel release, dunno. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Updates caused problems...
I have updated two different machines and ran into the following problems as of yesterday and today: 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686: - No Gui startup after udev - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target - mount: missing mount point - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory) : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory) : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory) : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory) - switchroot: Mount failed - system hangs (b) If booting previous kernel 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686: + Worked with updates prior to that of last week or so, startup/login gui worked fine, however: - Due to current updates (last few days): - Startup gui fails to come up just after udev, but login gui works. - (yesterday) Startup reported 3 kmod warnings (files were missing and startup was unable to force kmod builds) but continued to login gui. - (today): yum updated with several new kmods, then rebooted: + Startup forced kmod rebuild but kmod-ndiswrapper failed + Startup continued and and gui login came up, but after login: - firefox has installed *many* language plug-ins (that I did not choose) and *everytime* you log in, the extensions dialog pops up - so I disabled all the language plugins I did not need but could not un-install them, and the annoyance stopped. 2) Intel DQ35J0 (a) New kernel in 1a worked and did not have any problems, and it did not hang. (b) Same as 1b above, but using the same kernel as 1a above. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
DVD VOBS installed on HD, how does one start the movie?
I have downloaded a movie onto the hard drive and I have a bunch of VOBs and all that but when I open say, VLC, how does one start? If I `open directory' it seems to find the Welcome page and plays to the end; I can select Language, etc, and return to main, but from there it does not seem to be able to `start the movie' seamlessly. Seems at the moment, I have to select the specific VOBs in the proper order but it is not obvious. Any advice? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Your favorite Music/Video player?
I have been using Amarok for awhile, but I find it so frustrating to use when it comes to updating tags - it seems to do a very poor job reading/updating the audio file tags. I want to switch to something else that is more reliable, Amarok crashes alot esp. under heavy load. I liked Amarok's layout/list and other nifty features but it is getting to the point that I am unable to consistently keep my tags straight. Amarok seems to have trouble handling ID3 tags (I use Audio Tags Tools externally in attempts to force tags they way I want them to be and ATT supports ID3 v1.0 and v2.0) but Amarok has a nasty habit of reading these tags improperly and/or inconsistently so it seems, so I am ready to move on. What do you recommend as a replacement? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Question: is FireFox based on Java in any form?
Just a curious question. I was wondering if one were to completely remove Java or it's derivatives, would FF fail to run? I know there is a Java support plug in, but in absence of this plugin, does FF use totally native objects with the OS itself? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to obtain the unrar overall progress report?
I am using fedora's native unrar for my python application - no dll version or whatever else is out there. I have been trying to figure out how to obtain unrar's overall progress report for inclusion into my python code but so far I have not been successful. I tried to turn off all of the comments except for the progress report and all I have so far is: unrar x -ierr +o- $file | sed -e 's/.*\([0-9]\+\)[%]$/\1/ I have tried: -c-, -inul, and many other switches but none of these switches helped. There is also a -id[c,d,p,q] command line option but this does not seem to work and this is option is not discussed in the man pages. I noticed that if I add 21 before the pipe, but this removes the overall progress report and shows only the results on a per-directory/file results, which is not what I want. I have also tried awk but unable to figure out how to do it. The problem I have is getting rid of the per directory/file reports when all I want is the overall progress report, 1-100%. Any advice? Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Yum Updates: Cobbler
During the Yum updates of cobbler, I got: Updating : cobbler [329/789] Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/cobbler, line 17, in module import cobbler.cobbler as app File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/cobbler.py, line 26, in module import api File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py, line 207 HEAD:cobbler/api.py ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax Stopping cobbler daemon: [ OK ] Starting cobbler daemon: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/cobblerd, line 19, in module import cobbler.api as bootapi File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py, line 207 HEAD:cobbler/api.py ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax [FAILED] error: %post(cobbler-1.2.0-1.fc9.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled
Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it yum update yum let that process yum update yum-utils let that process done Worked for me, too. Thanks for passing it on, Gerald! Did not work for me: # yum update yum Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 243, in user_main errcode = main(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 98, in main base.getOptionsConfig(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 183, in getOptionsConfig disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 180, in _getConfig startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 342, in doPluginSetup plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 151, in __init__ self._importplugins(types) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 193, in _importplugins self._loadplugin(modulefile, types) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 226, in _loadplugin module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description) File /usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py, line 111 ('committers', 'committer')] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
After updating per instructions, does yum break?
I followed the instructions per: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues So the steps were for me: 1) Get the Key: a) F8: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/8/6.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-8-6.transition.noarch.rpm b) F9: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/9/5.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch.rpm 2) rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-8-and-9 3) yum --skip-broken update 4) Wait until the yum package is fixed and added to the repository, then: a) yum update yum b) yum update yum-utils Is this right? But this looks like the chicken/egg problem... yum is definitely broken after updates even if if the --skip-broken option is selected such as below: # yum --skip-broken list Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 243, in user_main errcode = main(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 98, in main base.getOptionsConfig(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 183, in getOptionsConfig disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 180, in _getConfig startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 342, in doPluginSetup plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 151, in __init__ self._importplugins(types) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 193, in _importplugins self._loadplugin(modulefile, types) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 226, in _loadplugin module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description) File /usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py, line 111 ('committers', 'committer')] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax So, the question is - how do I fix this problem? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba
I guess I need a little direction here. I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts to my desktop. Ok, well, I did try to add this partition to the fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and let the FUSE do it's job. But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition and this is where I am perplexed. Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1 directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 40777, is set to fuse_t, and it seems that there is no possible way for me to chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux reports that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a samba boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted users. I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems that smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the results are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable writable but this did not seem to work either. I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let FUSE take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab. So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these NTFS file-systems? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I guess I need a little direction here. I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts to my desktop. Ok, well, I did try to add this partition to the fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and let the FUSE do it's job. But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition and this is where I am perplexed. Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1 directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 40777, is set to fuse_t, and it seems that there is no possible way for me to chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux reports that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a samba boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted users. I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems that smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the results are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable writable but this did not seem to work either. I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let FUSE take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab. So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these NTFS file-systems? Geez, with a little digging, I finally found out how to do it from: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-export-samba-share-td18570296.html Solution: setsebool -P samba_share_fusefs 1 and you are done! Amazing! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I guess I need a little direction here. I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts to my desktop. Ok, well, I did try to add this partition to the fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and let the FUSE do it's job. But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition and this is where I am perplexed. Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1 directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 40777, is set to fuse_t, and it seems that there is no possible way for me to chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux reports that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a samba boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted users. I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems that smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the results are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable writable but this did not seem to work either. I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let FUSE take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab. So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these NTFS file-systems? Geez, with a little digging, I finally found out how to do it from: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-export-samba-share-td18570296.html Solution: setsebool -P samba_share_fusefs 1 and you are done! Amazing! Hmm... I wonder - if I or anyone else is not logged in, does that mean my wApp1 is not fuse mounted and if so, will the samba share fail? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9: Found certain files/directories in /
I found: /%1 (file) /Desktop /.config /.kde in the root directory. Is this normal? Are these safe to delete? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Adobe Flash: It works, it does not work - repeatingsyndrome.
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 15:50 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I have tried in vain to get Adobe's Flash to work in FF. It does not matter how many times I have tried installing, un-installing the adobe flash package - it says it was installed successfully. The problem so it appears, is flash works sometimes and sometimes it does not. I think this may be because the default flash plugin is actually swfdec Yes, I have libflashsupport installed as well. Under FireFox, you can try to change the swf default under 'Preferences' - however - I am clueless as how to override swfdec and force the default to be Adobe's Flash - attempts to try to do so only opens up a File/Directory Dialog box and I am clueless as to where/what directory/file needs to be loaded - I thought it was something of a library like: /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so but that does not seem to work. Btw: I have no problems with F8 - works like a charm and it does not use swfdec - but then again - that was with FF v2.0.x don't have both installed - remove swfdec done! run nspluginwrapper installer... Sorry for being dense - but I cannot run 'nspluginwrapper' What is the command for doing that or precisely, what do I need to do here? mozilla-plugin-config -i Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Adobe Flash: It works, it does not work - repeatingsyndrome.
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 15:50 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I have tried in vain to get Adobe's Flash to work in FF. It does not matter how many times I have tried installing, un-installing the adobe flash package - it says it was installed successfully. The problem so it appears, is flash works sometimes and sometimes it does not. I think this may be because the default flash plugin is actually swfdec Yes, I have libflashsupport installed as well. Under FireFox, you can try to change the swf default under 'Preferences' - however - I am clueless as how to override swfdec and force the default to be Adobe's Flash - attempts to try to do so only opens up a File/Directory Dialog box and I am clueless as to where/what directory/file needs to be loaded - I thought it was something of a library like: /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so but that does not seem to work. Btw: I have no problems with F8 - works like a charm and it does not use swfdec - but then again - that was with FF v2.0.x don't have both installed - remove swfdec done! run nspluginwrapper installer... Sorry for being dense - but I cannot run 'nspluginwrapper' What is the command for doing that or precisely, what do I need to do here? mozilla-plugin-config -i Craig Well, I tried: 1) yum update nspluginwrapper Package nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-5.fc9.i386 already installed and latest version Nothing to do 2) mozilla-plugin-config -i NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0 So there seems to be a problem? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
A simple bash case question...
I am trying to figure out how to do the following: case $foo in one || two) process_One_Two ;; three) process_Three ;; four || five) process_Four_Five ;; *) echo Nothing to process ;; esac The problem I am having is getting one || Two or four || five to work - so as to consolidate two or more strings per case statement line, otherwise I would have code duplication. Any advice? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A simple bash case question...
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I am trying to figure out how to do the following: ... Any advice? Get rid of the ||, just use |. Yup! That worked! Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
When will Yum updates be working again?
As the subject says... when? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When will Yum updates be working again?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 14:07 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: As the subject says... when? Have you checked the archives of the last few days, where this question has been asked and answered several times? Well, sort of. I get emails sent to my email server and I have tried to catch everything going by assuming that I get all the email deliveries. The last time I asked, I was given was a link summarizing Fedora's decision on how they were going to handle this issue - but there was nothing about a time-table or ETA as far I can tell, which is why I was asking. I read other postings but again, I did not catch anything of an ETA and I may have missed it. Does anyone have any idea when we can expect updates to be flowing again? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
DVD Movie players...
Is there a DVD movie player that includes support for full menus, esp. one that allows me to choose the language subtitles since I am hard-of-hearing? Seems totem does not allow me to choose the wide/full screen support as well? It seems to look only at titles 1-X for which one has to manually select and run, one at a time and seems to be a limited player, unless there is add-on support or something if it is supported? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] DVD Movie players...
Reuben Budiardja wrote: On Friday 29 August 2008 12:12, Dan Thurman wrote: Is there a DVD movie player that includes support for full menus, esp. one that allows me to choose the language subtitles since I am hard-of-hearing? Seems totem does not allow me to choose the wide/full screen support as well? It seems to look only at titles 1-X for which one has to manually select and run, one at a time and seems to be a limited player, unless there is add-on support or something if it is supported? Thanks! Dan Kaffeine, Xine, or VLC should be able to do all that, and they are in the repository. You may also want to grab the related packages for the non-free version in Livna or other 3rd-party repository. TL Thanks to all who responded! VLC does what I want! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where do I get the fedora yum GPG key?
I have done it but cannot remember how to get the Fedora GPG key. Can someone point the way, please? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where do I get the fedora yum GPG key?
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 16:48 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I have done it but cannot remember how to get the Fedora GPG key. Can someone point the way, please? ls -l /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/ Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines # ls -l /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/ total 32 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1910 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1726 2007-03-01 10:00 RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1706 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-beta -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1519 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1105 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1076 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1422 2008-05-12 03:00 RPM-GPG-KEY-livna -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1232 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-rawhide Ok, but do I need to get the new keys to overwrite the old key so that my updates will work or do I have to do anything at all and assume this is done automagically via yum update ? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Amarok, Songbird, and other similar players...
This is a question that has been bugging me for awhile and countless of hours trying to fix song tags that seems to be overwritten, or so it seems. From what I can tell, it *seems* to me that these players might be using their own database to write over the tags because no matter what I try via EasyTag, I could never get these players to incorporate these updates into their database or song lists. Am I correctly assuming these players, when started for the first time collects file tags, adds these tags into their database/list and from then on enforces these tags downward and never checks for updated tags to be incorporated as updates into the database/list? It seems there is no mechanism to blow away these player database (at least not from their menu options) other than to either locate the database and delete them or to completely remove and re-install the player application? Many times these player databases/list are completely outdated and appears in the list or is completely wrong as far as the way I want them to appear. It seems that these players are designed to be database/list centric? Songbird on the other hand appears to keep it's own database/list updates with metadata but does not actually update file tags because I would edit and update the metadata then check the file's song-tags and there would be no changes? What do you do to resolve these issues? Thanks in kind, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F8/F9 Multiboot question
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 04 August 2008 18:27:56 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Never mind! I got myself out of the problem! How? Someone will see this in the archives and will want to know the answer :-) Anne ok, fair enough! I followed Tim's instructions, but did this with Fedora-Live CD: 1) Boot in Fedora-Live + Open Shell Terminal Window 2) fdisk -l *** note!!! *** + Disk drives are DIFFERENT, not necessarily the same as when booted in Fedora! For example, when you boot in Fedora (the real thing), the 3 disks for me it was: /dev/sda - PATA /dev/sdb - SATA-1 /dev/sdc - SATA-2 In Fedora-Live, is displayed as: /dev/sdb (PATA) /dev/sdc (SATA-2) /dev/sdd (SATA-1) 3) grub a) find /grub/stage1 In my case, it showed: (hd1,0) - SATA-2 - boot-sys - the next 2 partitions are the NEW drive I am trying to construct per Tim's instructions (hd1,1) - SATA-2 - boot-f8 (hd1,2) - SATA-2 - boot-f9 (hd2,2) - SATA-1 - boot-f8 - this is my original untouched drive where I started originally. This was the grub I popped b) setup (hd2) (grub has installed the MBR and fixed my original drive problem - output was similar to Tim's instructions) c) quit d) Reboot - I was able to get my original drive back up and running!) The new drive I am still working on is: SATA-2 (750GB) == *** Note *** Actual sizes are not exact! /dev/sdc1 - boot-sys (100MB) /dev/sdc2 - f8-boot (100MB) /dev/sdc3 - f9-boot (100MB) /dev/sdc4 - Extended Partition /dev/sdc5 - f8-root(175GB) /dev/sdc6 - f9-root(175GB) /dev/sdc7 - f-App1(351GB) /dev/sdc8 - swap(~5GB) (I have 2GB RAM) I have found in 3b, above: setup (hd2), it is the same as if you used setup (hd2.0). I have found that once you have the partitions for 3 boot directories, boot-sys, boot-f8, and boot-f9, you can either copy over the existing f8 and/or f9 boot partitions into the new respective locations (as I did), and as for the boot-sys partition, I simply copied over my f8 boot partition, and stripped everything above grub directory. While you are at it, you can also copy over your root-f8 and root-f9 files into the root-f8 and root-f9 partitions as well. How you get these copied over successfully has mixed results (cp -a, tar, GParted), but if you rather use a true clone program, try CloneZilla As a tool for tracking/verification, in each of the 3 partitions, I created bread-crumbs as empty files: BOOT-SYS, BOOT-F8, BOOT-F9 in each of the respective directories so that I can ensure that these directories are easily identifiable and not mistaken for something else along the way. At this point, I have also found that I needed to run grub setup on each of these 3 boot partitions; similar to above instructions: Boot up the system, if you cannot get into a grub-display at boot-time, you may need to boot in Fedora-Live or Rescue CD. If you can get a grub splash-screen at bootup (w/o CDs), the simply hit 'c' for command. # grub grub find /grub/stage1 (note where your 3 partitions are) (hd0.0) -- boot-sys (/dev/sdb1) (hd0,1) -- boot-f8 (/dev/sdb2) (hd0,2) -- boot-f9 (/dev/sdb3) (hd1,2) NOTE! Grub saw things differently again. I am assuming that the appearance of this new order, may have to do with the device.maps that I had before from the original f8 installation, and for whatever the reasons, it pays to make SURE you are in sync with what grub actually reports. Remember about leaving breadcrumbs earlier? If you are not sure which drive is which, you can try searching in this way: grub find BOOT-SYS (hd0.0) grub find BOOT-F8 (hd0.1) grub find BOOT-F9 (hd0.2) Note: Now we can go ahead to create grub-bootable partitions for each of the 3 partitions we created earlier: grub root (hd0,0) grub setup (hd0,0) results are shown here grub root (hd0,1) grub setup (hd0,1) results are shown here grub root (hd0,2) grub setup (hd0,2) results are shown here grub quit Now it is time to edit the grub.conf files for each of the 3 partitions. =[boot.sys] # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda5 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda #hiddenmenu splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz default=saved timeout=5 title Fedora 8 SDB1 rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 savedefault title Fedora 9 rootnoverify (hd0,2) chainloader +1 savedefault title Windows 2000 rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader +1 savedefault title Windows XP
F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?
I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0. I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash. Why is it that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe? And yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported. Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0. I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash. Why is it that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe? And yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported. Is your F9 x86_64 or i386? i386 (686) Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0. I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash. Why is it that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe? And yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported. Is your F9 x86_64 or i386? i386 (686) What does your firefox about:plugins page say about which flash plugin is being used? F8: Firefox v2.0.xxx Shockwave Flash File name: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124 MIME Type Description SuffixesEnabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Yes F9: Firefox v3.0.xxx Shockwave Flash File name: nswrapper_32_32.libswfdecmozilla.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100 MIME Type Description SuffixesEnabled application/x-shockwave-flash Adobe Flash movie swf Yes application/futuresplashFutureSplash movie spl Yes So -- the wierd thing is, that in F8, the Adobe Flash player works for all swf files within the browser, even though it says: Shockwave Flash, but in F9, even though it says Adobe Flash movie, it resorts to using swfdec 0.6.0. ! I have no clue why Firefox v3.0 does not seem to recognize adobe flash and I have tried several times to reset the application within FF 3.0 to no avail. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Need help with getopts
I have: while getopts achrv:d:e opt What I wanted was single flags as: -a -c -h -r -v in any order as well as -d directory -e encodeType in any order as well. But the above use of `:' is not doing what I want. What am I doing wrong, please? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Need help with getopts
Carl D. Roth wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:13:32 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I have: while getopts achrv:d:e opt What I wanted was single flags as: -a -c -h -r -v in any order as well as -d directory -e encodeType in any order as well. But the above use of `:' is not doing what I want. What am I doing wrong, please? Thanks! Dan Your syntax is wrong; change achrv:d:e to achrvd:e: Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9: List of packages that has missing geko-libs v1.9
I get notifications constantly asking to update the following list. Unfortunately, there is a conflict and it is saying: Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package X where X is the following: devhelp emerald epiphany epiphany-extensions firefox gnomesword xulrunner xulrunner-devel yelp The important one for me is firefox. So what do I need to do to get these packages installed? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9: Using dd to clone a drive...
I used dd off the Gnome Live CD, so that neither drives were mounted nor active. Next I proceeded to use dd as follows: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb It took approx. 6 hours to copy over 450GB of data. I was successful at getting getting Grub to come up, was able to select XP and Vista partitions and these booted up just fine. Great! I checked everything and these worked fine as far as I can tell. But when I tried to boot Fedora 9, there was a whole raft of errors spewed out, from Stale NFS errors, missing/corrupted/perm problems with /var/run, /var/bin/id, I was not able to tell what the problem and the list is endless. In short, I was not able to boot at all. I could however boot into single user (with lots of errors) but was not really sure what to do next. I tried fsck but there was a warning that I could severely corrupt the / partition, so I declined to follow through with it. Next, I shutdown the system, rebooted with the original drive with the clone added as secondary drive, and brought up GParted and took a look at the cloned drive's partition and everything appears fine except the / partition, it appears with a black border, has a warning exclaimation icon, and the partition is marked as Unknown. Can someone give me some guidance as to post-followup to dd, or perhaps a repair of / partition, or to simply download Gparted-Live and make a partition to partition copy of / (which I am downloading as I write up this post)? Curiously, why is it that dd works for XP/Vista and not Fedora-9? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9: tune2fs -u random device
Hmm... does this only work with Linux ext2/3? What about other file systems such as NTFS? What is the equivalent for setting NTFS file systems? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: tune2fs -u random device
Mark Haney wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: Mark Haney wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: Hmm... does this only work with Linux ext2/3? What about other file systems such as NTFS? What is the equivalent for setting NTFS file systems? Thanks! Dan Far as I know this is only for ext2/3 (maybe 4 at some point?). Other filesystems have similar options for them, but I don't think there's one for NTFS. And persionally, even if there were, I wouldn't go about tinkering with those options in linux anyway. Why would you want to do that? Because when you clone a disk, the 2nd drive is an exact duplicate of the cloned drive which includes among other things, the UUID, Labels, and so on. So I want to ensure that the cloned drive has different UUID's but with the labels intact to ensure that they do not conflict with one another should both drives remain connected to the same system. Otherwise you will not know which drive is being mounted on the file system, which is the main purpose of the UUIDs. Thanks! Dan I am aware of all that. The point is, if I need to clone a drive, I tend not to have NTFS on it for the very reason that NTFS is way too sensitive to changes. If I do need to clone it, it's not to stay connected to the system, it's to be used either as a backup, or to be used in another system altogether. This eliminates the need for that. Regardless, I wouldn't personally use anything like tune2fs-equivalent on an NTFS partition unless it's in Windows. Too many things can go wrong that way. Ok, point taken! Do you know if there is such a beast in windoes that can change the UUID safely? You see, if my daughter/updates screws up her drive at least I can bring in the cloned copy and restore it albeit losing whatever was added after the clone? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Mounting of drives
Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:48 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Yes, I did. I tried all 7 Sata ports and they all behaved the same way. This blew me away. Perhaps Sata ports have no unique position identifier, such as I am Sata port #1, ... ? On someone else's PC, I noticed that there did seem to be some order to which port was first. But I wonder if your problem is down to something like: One of the drives is ready first (Fedora 9 seems quite slow at scanning devices, and spews out numerous errors in the meantime - at least it's slow to boot up, and theres lots of dev errors when you plug in USB drives post-boot). One of the drive partitions is set up to be bootable and the other not, and that affecting which is first. Ok, I have to retract what I said about testing all 7 sata ports. It turns out that there is precedence on which port is recognized first. I have mis-tested this. I am able to find the first sata port on my Intel board and it does keep my primary drive as /dev/sda and my cloned drive as /dev/sdb. I am so happy now! Now, the problem I have is the cloned drive was not successful with the dd command. It failed to create the swap partition and it failed to faithfully create the / partition. So it looks like I will have to discover a way to copy clone the partition of /. How can I do this safely? cp -a? What I do not want to do is to copy over from /, the devices for example so what is the best method for copying over the partitions esp. that of / ? I think /boot is not a problem with cp -a but I have a feeling / is significant. Please advise? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list