Re: dd question, what am I doing wrong?

2009-12-06 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:02 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:13 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  
  

The problem I have specifically with rsync (or tar, or cp) is that
it does not save ACLs, file attributes too well, and so on that I
gave up using it.  Perhaps the problem in this case is not to use
the -a option but to use the manual options to save everything
about the files that you can.

Specifically:
rsync manual:
-a, --archivearchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
-H, --hard-links   preserve hard links
-A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p)
-X, --xattrs  preserve extended attributes



Do you mean that you've tried these (particularly -A and -X) and they
don't work? If so, have you filed a bug report?
  
  

I am not certain that it's a bug per-se, it's just that there are
cases, or so it seems, where it is not clear how to deal with
the issue on my part.  For example, hard links (-H).  How are
hard links handled on one drive to be copied over to another
and is it guaranteed to work?  I could not get my mind around
this one so I did not want to take a chance.



Well, you could try it. Since you're copying to a fresh drive anyway,
there's no harm in doing it and checking the result.

Hard links are an easy case in fact, and trivial to check. Create file A
and hard link B to it. Rsync A and B to a different filesystem, using
the -H option. Use ls -i on the copied files to see that they both
have the same inode. That's all a hard link is.

  

As for ACLs (-A),
what exactly is being handled here and does this work for ALL
Oses concerned - do they follow the same standard?



WTF? Of course not. I thought we were talking about Linux here. In fact
there's been no indication in this thread of anything to the contrary.
There is no standard for this stuff across OSes (I suppose Posix might
be considered a standard but I'd be very careful about relying on it).
We're doing low-level system maintenance here. Don't expect anything to
be portable.

  

I am thinking
about Vista in particular, so I did not want to experiment on this
one either.



I wouldn't dream of doing this on a non-Unix system.

  

As for extended attributes (-X), I have no clue exactly
what this is.  I guess I have to someday take the time to do more
research before messing around with these rsync options.  This is a
particular reason why I am using dd/rescue  resizing - it works sans
Vista, which I have yet to try.



Again, rsync is a *Unix* utility, designed for *Unix* filesystems
*only*. If you'd said at the beginning that you wanted to move a Vista
partition we could have saved ourselves a lot of time.

poc
  

I was being general.  The same issue applies to linux when it comes
to rsync.  If one relies on rsync to keep all the file atttibutes with -a
option, there are surprises as I mentioned.  I threw in Vista just to
make a point that rsync does not work with Vista (or Xp), as you
already know.  It pays to know what these rsync options do and
what OSes rsync works with, again which you already know, but
it is written here for those that don't - me included.  I learned the
hard way by testing it all out so that I know what works and what
doesn't.  I found that rsync does copy the data on Xp or Vista, but
sans the file attributes.  At least with a failing drive most of the data
was saved when in a hurry. It sure is fast.

Getting back on topic - it is dd/rescue that works for (some) OSes and
so far it does.  I discovered that it definitely works with XP so as long
as the partition copied from source to destination is the same partition#
- otherwise, one is forced to 'fixBoot' because somehow the partition
data (boot.ini) and the partition MBR are not in sync.  Vista on the
other hand does not work even if dd'ing source to destination, with the
same partition#s.

I am fighting a battle on another system trying to get XP  Vista's boot
partition to work where the partition to partition copy are not the same,
local or to different drives.

FWIW,
Dan

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To dd or to rsync, that's the question...

2009-12-01 Thread Dan Thurman


Which is the preferred backup solution?

As it seems, when I use rsync to copy data from disk1 partitionX
over to disk2 partition X, I noticed that if one uses Fedora Selinux,
one has to touch /.autorelabel for that partition.  It seems to work,
except in cases where the UUID is being hard-wired especially
with HAL devices and I started noticing it in cases where xorg
devices are sometimes spitting out errors showing UUID devices,
and crashes Nautilus but recovers and it does this almost every time
the system is rebooted into Fedora.

On the other hand, if one decides to use dd instead, does this preserve
the UUID of the devices including that of the disk partition and it
should work perfectly even without the use of /.autorelabel?

I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and
wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data
off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means.

In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this would
not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would
perhaps also fail.  This was the reason I was forced to use rsync in order
to get the data copied over (with errors: I had two files corrupted and
I assumed that a reinstall of the OS would pickup the missing pieces)
so this leads to Vista as follows on this case, however, I experimented
on another system using dd and Vista, it seems to make no difference
at all when trying to 'upgrade' or reinstall the OS on top of the existing
OS.

I noticed that dd was the only solution for XP and it works, on the
other hand it does not work for Vista.  What I did in the Vista case
was to rsync the Vista partition to disk2/Vista partition, bootrec /fixBoot,
set active (boot) to the drive2/Vista partition and completely reinstall
Vista (because I could not figure out how to 'update' instead of Install
as the Update was greyed out), and in doing it this way, the Vista/DVD
seemed to recognize the partition as such, but moved the contents to
windows.old and proceeded to complete the installation.  Of course,
this means a complete manual reinstall of 3rd party software and user
profile, a royal pain in the a$$.  Interestingly though, it appears that
one does not need to reactivate the license, and I have yet to see it being
asked for.

Any pointers/advice is appreciated!

Kind regards,
Dan

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Re: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...

2009-12-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-12-01 13:01:47, Dan Thurman wrote:
  

Which is the preferred backup solution?


 ...
  
I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) 
and wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the 
data off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that 
means.



You don't seem to be doing a backup, but rather making a copy of an 
existing drive.  You should probably do that and then also make a 
backup some other way.


To copy a disk, I always use dd and then expand the last partition as 
needed (it's usually LVM2, so I then expand some of the LVs).  The disk 
I usually do this to has WinXP (and Win98) as well as Linux /boot and 
LVM2 partitions.



  

In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this
would not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy 
would perhaps also fail. 


 ...

ddrescue
  

I tried ddrescue and it seems to work, except that there was
4 errors reported.  When I went to look at the mount, it seems
to indicate that the partition was not readable, perhaps left in
some unknown state.  Are there any ddrescue options that I
need to be aware of?  The command I used was:

ddrescue /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2

I tried to go into a working OS (XP) and tried to use the
chkdsk /F E: and it says that it could not locate the master
tables and kills chkdsk.  It also says it is not a NTFS partition
either.

This of course was on a Vista partition.

Thanks-
Dan

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Gimp Gap?

2008-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman


[OFF TOPIC]: Gimp

I was reading Gimp on Gimp's website and
discovered that there was something called
Gap.  It was not clear to me if this was
already built in, is a plugin, or a separate
application to be downloaded and installed.

If Gap is already built-in, how does one
invoke it?


Thanks!
Dan

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Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues

2008-12-17 Thread Dan Thurman


I get this error from Yum...

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place
prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see
message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface
org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name
(unset) destination :1.31)

I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It
is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed:

+ kadu
+ gyachi

and finally the only one left is:

fuse-emulator

for which I cannot remove.

What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that
I can later add back in the above removed packages?

Thanks!
Dan


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Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues

2008-12-17 Thread Dan Thurman


I get this error from Yum...

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place
prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see
message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface
org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name
(unset) destination :1.31)

I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It
is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed:

+ kadu
+ gyachi

and finally the only one left is:

fuse-emulator

for which I cannot remove.

What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that
I can later add back in the above removed packages?

Thanks!
Dan


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Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues

2008-12-17 Thread Dan Thurman


I get this error from Yum...

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place
prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see
message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface
org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name
(unset) destination :1.31)

I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It
is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed:

+ kadu
+ gyachi

and finally the only one left is:

fuse-emulator

for which I cannot remove.

What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that
I can later add back in the above removed packages?

Thanks!
Dan


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Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues

2008-12-17 Thread Dan Thurman

Todd Denniston wrote:

N. James Bridge wrote, On 12/17/2008 01:55 PM:

On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote:

I get this error from Yum...

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place
prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see
message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface
org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name
(unset) destination :1.31)

I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It
is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed:

+ kadu
+ gyachi

and finally the only one left is:

fuse-emulator

for which I cannot remove.

What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that
I can later add back in the above removed packages?

Thanks!
Dan



This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an
update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been
fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus.



perhaps a bit more than that... like a reboot.
please see Paul Frields email:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html 



granted the `yum update dbus` might be needed in Dan's case if other 
packages than dbus are preventing the yum update from finishing.


I had rebooted my system, and on rebooting, the dbus failed to start, 
rhgb started
but logins were prevented in X.  So, I Alt-F1, logged in as root, then 
yum removed
fuse-emulator* and was able to start yum updates.  The reason being, 
that there were
library dependencies that refused to go away.  So, hopefully, if the 
major updates (1.7GB)
are successful, I hope to add back in the removed packages.  We'll see 
how that goes and

I'll post a follow up soon!

Sorry about the multiple postings - these were stopped queued email 
messages that
were blocked and upon fixing the problem at my end, released the queued 
emails.


Thanks for responding!
Dan

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Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues

2008-12-17 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:

Todd Denniston wrote:

N. James Bridge wrote, On 12/17/2008 01:55 PM:

On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote:

I get this error from Yum...

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place
prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see
message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface
org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name
(unset) destination :1.31)

I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It
is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed:

+ kadu
+ gyachi

and finally the only one left is:

fuse-emulator

for which I cannot remove.

What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that
I can later add back in the above removed packages?

Thanks!
Dan



This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an
update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been
fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus.



perhaps a bit more than that... like a reboot.
please see Paul Frields email:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html 



granted the `yum update dbus` might be needed in Dan's case if other 
packages than dbus are preventing the yum update from finishing.


I had rebooted my system, and on rebooting, the dbus failed to start, 
rhgb started
but logins were prevented in X.  So, I Alt-F1, logged in as root, then 
yum removed
fuse-emulator* and was able to start yum updates.  The reason being, 
that there were
library dependencies that refused to go away.  So, hopefully, if the 
major updates (1.7GB)
are successful, I hope to add back in the removed packages.  We'll see 
how that goes and

I'll post a follow up soon!

Sorry about the multiple postings - these were stopped queued email 
messages that
were blocked and upon fixing the problem at my end, released the queued 
emails.


Thanks for responding!
Dan


Follow up as promised

I have updated my F9 fine now.  I found that I cannot
install Kadu and did not really want gyachi either since
both are assumably broken, I'll wait for later updates when
they become available.  Same with fuse-emulator - since I don't
really need it either - maybe later.

I'm happy as a clam now ;)

Thanks for all the help!
Dan

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Is it me or what? Musical chairs with fonts?

2008-12-14 Thread Dan Thurman


Seems that every time there is a new Xorg release
my desktop fonts are changing.  One time it is too large,
and now it is very small (try size 5 or 6). Sometimes the
window apps positions have shifted, or the mounted-disk
desktop icons have shifted forcing me to reset the settings
and re-save the desktop settings. Not a big deal, just a bit
annoying.

Dan

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Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]

2008-12-14 Thread Dan Thurman

Frank Cox wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:16:18 -0500
fred smith wrote:

  

Did you enable weather icons in preferences?
  


Do you have enough space on your panel to show the weather?  It takes up
another inch or so of space.
  

I have found, that removing the applet and re-adding the
applet to the panel, re-setting the locale, clicking on the
Weather tab: F, changing it to something other, then
back to F, seems to restore it.

Seems for some reason, Gnome-2 configuration files gets
messed up, which may mean that you may need to reset
the offending applet or application via the method mentioned
above.  Occassionally, I find that the User Switcher, and the
Clock messes up as well and also needs to be reset.  Don't
forget to Session-Save as well after making the changes.


FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]

2008-12-14 Thread Dan Thurman

fred smith wrote:

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:25:38AM -0800, Dan Thurman wrote:
  

Frank Cox wrote:


On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:16:18 -0500
fred smith wrote:

 
  

Did you enable weather icons in preferences?
 
  

Do you have enough space on your panel to show the weather?  It takes up
another inch or so of space.
 
  

I have found, that removing the applet and re-adding the
applet to the panel, re-setting the locale, clicking on the
Weather tab: F, changing it to something other, then
back to F, seems to restore it.

Seems for some reason, Gnome-2 configuration files gets
messed up, which may mean that you may need to reset
the offending applet or application via the method mentioned
above.  Occassionally, I find that the User Switcher, and the
Clock messes up as well and also needs to be reset.  Don't
forget to Session-Save as well after making the changes.



None of that makes any difference.

I've assumed we're talking about the gnome clock applet, which offers
weather information. But perhaps we're talking about the weather applet,
which is a different critter?

I've removed, re-added, reset everything in the clock applet and it simply
doesn't show any weather info. But the weather applet works in that it
shows a temperature--so far it isn't showing anything else...

And how does one Session-Save, as you mention above? I don't see
anything on any gnome menu with a similar name...

Thanks for your advice!
  
I am talking about the clock applet that you see for date and time, that 
appears in
the panel (mine is on top).  When I log in, I get these Gnome dialog 
errors that
tells me the applet(s) are messed up.  So I close the dialog boxes, then 
remove
the offending applet(s) icons in the panel (as reported by the Gnome 
dialog boxes),
then proceed to add them back in.  If the Weather icon that appears to 
the left of the
date/time is not working, then I select the icon preferences, click the 
Location tab
to ensure that I have the correct location (mine was empty), then click 
the Weather

tab, drop-down the 'Temperature Unit', select 'Default', then close the
Preferences. Next, open the Preferences again, reset the Temperature 
Unit back
to 'F' (for my location, but you can choose whatever you want), close 
the preferences

box again.  Wait awhile, then it worked.

As for 'Save Session', I wanted to make sure that the new applets were 
saved in
Gnome-2 configuration files because I am not sure if it is 'committed' 
automatically

and this may not be required.

When I ran into these problems initially, I wanted to see if my account 
gnome-2
configuration were messed up, so as a test, I created a new temporary 
user - a
different account - to see if the Weather icon works, i.e. if by 
creating a new
account, new (virgin) gnome-2 configuration files are created properly. 
If the

Weather icon did not work, then I can assume that there was something wrong
with my gnome package on my system.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Sed programming question

2008-12-11 Thread Dan Thurman

Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 10Dec2008 18:39, Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
[snip!]

You can only do AND by nesting multiple pattern matches:

  /foo/{
/bar/{
  ... do stuff for foo AND bar
}
  }
  

I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option
but could not make it work as an AND operator:

# echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}'
goo har


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Re: Sed programming question

2008-12-11 Thread Dan Thurman

Gordon Messmer wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:

I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option
but could not make it work as an AND operator:

# echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}'
goo har


$ rpm -q sed
sed-4.1.5-11.fc10.x86_64

$ echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}'
foo har


$ rpm -q sed
sed-4.1.5-10.fc9.i386

Hmm...  I tried it again and it worked...
Must be a brain-f*rt on my part!

Thanks a lot for confirming!

Dan

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Re: Sed programming question

2008-12-11 Thread Dan Thurman

Kevin Martin wrote:


Gordon Messmer wrote:
  

Dan Thurman wrote:


I tested your suggestion above with and without -r option
but could not make it work as an AND operator:

# echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}'
goo har
  

$ rpm -q sed
sed-4.1.5-11.fc10.x86_64

$ echo foo har | sed -re '/foo/{/bar/{s/foo/goo/}}'
foo har




$ echo foo har  | sed -e s/foo/goo/g -e s/har/bar/g
goo bar

Is this what you're trying to do?

Kevin
  

No.  The result should be: (foo AND har) = (10)=0
so the inside nested brackets should not be allowed to
run and the original string (foo har) is returned.

Dan

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Sed programming question

2008-12-10 Thread Dan Thurman


I think sed can handle relational operators, but I have not
been able to figure it out. Am I correct in assuming that
sed can use relational operators such as OR (|) or AND
()?

Here is an example, but does not work:

echo The | sed -e '/(the)|(THE)|(The)/i\ GOOD!'

I tried looking up examples on the Internet, but could
not find it.  My brain is getting real mushy.

Kind regards,
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Re: Sed programming question

2008-12-10 Thread Dan Thurman

Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 10Dec2008 18:39, Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I think sed can handle relational operators, but I have not
been able to figure it out. Am I correct in assuming that
sed can use relational operators such as OR (|) or AND
()?

Here is an example, but does not work:

echo The | sed -e '/(the)|(THE)|(The)/i\ GOOD!'

I tried looking up examples on the Internet, but could
not find it.  My brain is getting real mushy.



Sed doesn't directly do relational operators.
_If_ you are using GNU sed _and_ you use the -r option, then you have
extended/full regular expressions, and they support | (alternation,
like OR).

 is not AND, it's a substitution syntax for what was matched by the
left hand regexp, eg:

  s/bill/ and ted/

You can only do AND by nesting multiple pattern matches:

  /foo/{
/bar/{
  ... do stuff for foo AND bar
}
  }

although you can fake it at some performance expense thus:

  /(foo.*bah|bah.*foo)/{
... do stuff for foo AND bar
  }

This gets combinatorially worse for each additional AND you try to fake;
you are better off nesting matches as in the previous example.

Have you considered joining the sed-users list?

Cheers,
  

Wow, thanks a lot!  I certainly realize now that relational operators
are quite limited with sed, which is why there weren't any examples
offered over the Internet!  Duh oh!

Thanks for the tip regarding joining the sed-users group!

Dan

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How can I open-with over an NTFS filesystem?

2008-12-08 Thread Dan Thurman


I have via Nautilus (Places-)Network, mounted a remote NTFS
file-system from a Windows Server and it brings up the Nautilus
Browser showing the contents of the file to be viewed.

What I would like to do is to do a 'tail' on a log file therein which
is a text-file that has embedded ANSI Color Escape Sequences (ACES)
(of which tail is the only application that I know of that supports ACES)
but for some reason or another I simply cannot open the ACES file with
a custom tail or with any application provided by the items in the
Open-With menu.

If tried to use 'Open-with: Text Editor' (which 'gedit'), I get the
following error message:

Could not open the file /home/dant/.gvfs/d$ on o…ventSink/Logs/Tracker.log
using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.

I tried all sorts of other locales, but nothing I tried seemed to work.

I noted, that gedit had no problems opening a non-ACES log file
right next to the ACES and it worked. So it seems that ACES
is a problem with the editors that I have tried.

So, I copied over the ACES file from the NTFS filesystem onto my
desktop, and tried to open this ACES file with gedit, and it crashed
quite horribly - and it did however popped up a dialog box saying
in effect that the file in question was not a text file, but a binary
file.

The next thing I tried was to open a Gnome terminal window, and
issue a tail -f Desktop/Tracker.log and no problems, it worked - just
that I haven't figured out how to do this over the mounted NFTS
file-system.

So, my question is, with what application can I use, if any, that supports
ACES, preferably with a tail?

Kind regards,
Dan

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Re: How can I open-with over an NTFS filesystem?

2008-12-08 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:


I have via Nautilus (Places-)Network, mounted a remote NTFS
file-system from a Windows Server and it brings up the Nautilus
Browser showing the contents of the file to be viewed.

What I would like to do is to do a 'tail' on a log file therein which
is a text-file that has embedded ANSI Color Escape Sequences (ACES)
(of which tail is the only application that I know of that supports ACES)
but for some reason or another I simply cannot open the ACES file with
a custom tail or with any application provided by the items in the
Open-With menu.

If tried to use 'Open-with: Text Editor' (which 'gedit'), I get the
following error message:

Could not open the file /home/dant/.gvfs/d$ on 
o…ventSink/Logs/Tracker.log

using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.

I tried all sorts of other locales, but nothing I tried seemed to work.

I noted, that gedit had no problems opening a non-ACES log file
right next to the ACES and it worked. So it seems that ACES
is a problem with the editors that I have tried.

So, I copied over the ACES file from the NTFS filesystem onto my
desktop, and tried to open this ACES file with gedit, and it crashed
quite horribly - and it did however popped up a dialog box saying
in effect that the file in question was not a text file, but a binary
file.

The next thing I tried was to open a Gnome terminal window, and
issue a tail -f Desktop/Tracker.log and no problems, it worked - just
that I haven't figured out how to do this over the mounted NFTS
file-system.

So, my question is, with what application can I use, if any, that 
supports

ACES, preferably with a tail?

Kind regards,
Dan
Hmm...  with a stroke of luck, I discovered that with wildcards, I 
solved my problem

like this:

tail -f $HOME/.gvfs/d*/Prog*/Exch*/Event*/Lo*/Tracker*

I noted, that if I tried to type in the full pathname explicitly, all 
bets are off, and
this is where the wild-card (*) came in handy.  I wonder why though, 
that I could

not type in the pathname explicitly.  But hey, whatever - it worked!

Kind regards!
Dan

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I am testing convmv and need some example non-utf-8 filenames.

2008-11-29 Thread Dan Thurman


I have been scratching my head and tried all sorts of what I
thought were non-utf-8 filenames but I am never sure that
the filenames that I have tried are truly non-utf-8 filenames.

... and yes, I have searched everywhere in the Internet looking
and trying all sorts of filenames but was unable to get conmv
to recognize and convert them in my scripts.

So, can anyone here provide me some sample filenames I can try?

Thanks!
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Re: I am testing convmv and need some example non-utf-8 filenames.

2008-11-29 Thread Dan Thurman

Todd Zullinger wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:
  

I have been scratching my head and tried all sorts of what I
thought were non-utf-8 filenames but I am never sure that
the filenames that I have tried are truly non-utf-8 filenames.

... and yes, I have searched everywhere in the Internet looking
and trying all sorts of filenames but was unable to get conmv
to recognize and convert them in my scripts.

So, can anyone here provide me some sample filenames I can try?



Why not use convmv to convert some files *from* utf8 to some other
charset first?  For example,

$ touch /tmp/æ-convmv-test
$ convmv --notest -f utf8 -t iso8859-1 /tmp/æ-convmv-test 
Your Perl version has fleas #37757 #49830 
mv /tmp/æ-convmv-test /tmp/?-convmv-test

Ready!

To convert it back again:

$ convmv --notest -t utf8 -f iso8859-1 /tmp/*-convmv-test 
Your Perl version has fleas #37757 #49830 
mv /tmp/?-convmv-test /tmp/æ-convmv-test

Ready!
  

Oh, yeah! never crossed my mind! Geez, numbskull that I am!

Thanks!
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How to access Nautilus's Network filesystems via shell or 'Open With...'?

2008-11-16 Thread Dan Thurman


I am working on F9

Via Nautilus:

1) Open the Network computer, enter name/password when prompted
2) Select the directory you want to go to
3) And say that you found a log file of interest: Tracker.log

Note: the mounted network connection appears on your Desktop
as: Drive$ on windows-hostname

You then want to do a tail -f on this file.  So how can you do this via
Gnome shell or even via Nautilus 'Open With...' ?

I tried to use a custom command with:
1) tail -f
2) xterm -e tail -f
3) xterm -e tail -f  Tracker.log

And none of these worked, at least I cannot SEE (1) and for xterm,
it cannot exec tail -f.

But I noticed that, when I ran (1) tail -f, the interesting
thing is that tail -f was shown as a process, and it said:

tail -f /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log

Since I could not see the tail results, I killed the tail process ID and 
then

tried in a Gnome Terminal:

tail -f /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log

and it worked! However, not long afterwards, I got a message:

tail: /home/user/.gvfs/d$ on window-hostname/Logs/Tracker.log: \
Transport endpoint is not connected tail: no files remaining

Hmm... any ideas what I can try?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Strange 'find' case?

2008-11-15 Thread Dan Thurman

Todd Zullinger wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:
  

So, my question is, how do I get around this issue - to either write
a  script to convert these files to a `sane' encoded characters or
change  something like the Language environment that the OS can
handle any encoded file names?



The default charset used for files is utf-8.  The convmv program can
help you convert filenames from one encoding to another.

If you have filenames that are using ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1), for
example, you might be able to make find happy using something like
this:

LANG=en_US.iso88591 find ...

But fixing the encodings of the filenames seems like a far better
solution.

  


SUPER!  Thanks for your reply - now that I have some work to do! ;)

Kind regards!
Dan

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Yum Updates: Today - Pretty good. Just minor Issues (maybe?)

2008-11-14 Thread Dan Thurman


Did a Yum Update today some, 192 files.

Two packages: SeaMonkey and Vlc reported:
Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/switchdesk.desktop': Key 
file contains line '? ?' which is not a key-value 
pair, group, or comment


Not sure if that is ok...

Dan

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
  Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email.

 ☺

☹

poc


Maybe off topic?

How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
say translate unicode characters to english?  I have
song files that have unicode characters and some for
which I have no idea what it is supposed to represent.

For example, some song files have this image of a box
with binary numbers in them, supposedly a unicode
character, and I thought of simply deleting them, but
I'd like to know what they really are and if they can
be translated into english?

Thanks!
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


 For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
 `u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have

That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules.
You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to
as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good
European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts
in current Fedora.

You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded
information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded
in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces
invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid
character.

 no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o 
knowing

 what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is
 sometimes
 obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I 
said,


Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly.

 I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal 
representation so

 that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a
hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up
on the unicode web site.

 Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol
space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically
each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0
is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for
American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8.

Alan


Thanks for the tip!  I will review the link you gave me (already started!)

Dan

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


 How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
 say translate unicode characters to english?  I have

I'm not sure what you mean by to English, Unicode is a character
encoding not a language dependant encoding. You can look up unicode
symbols on www.unicode.org, you probably need the right fonts installed
that is all.

Alan

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For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
`u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have
no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing
what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is 
sometimes

obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I said,
I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so
that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

Thanks!
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Re: How do I create 6 pages?

2008-10-31 Thread Dan Thurman

Steven W. Orr wrote:

On Friday, Oct 31st 2008 at 00:10 -, quoth Anoop:

=Hi Steven,
=
=On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
= On my F9 task bar I have a pager widget, but I can't figure out how to
= increase the number of pages. I'd like to get to 6.
=For that you have to increase number of desktops. You can increase them from
=System Settings - Desktop - Multiple Desktops
=
=Thanks,
=Anoop

Now I see the problem. I don't have Desktop - Multiple Desktops. What I 
have looks like this


Appearance
Windows
Window Decorations
Buttons
Theme Manager
Colors
Scheme
Color
Effects
Style
Style
Effects
Toolbar
Splash Screen
Fonts
Icons
Desktop
Desktop Effects
General
All Effects
Launch Feedback
Screensaver
Notifications
System notifications
Applications
Player Settings
System Bell
Window Behaviour
Window Specific
Window Behavior
Focus
Titlebar Actions
Window Actions
Moving
Advanced

Any ideas? Am I missing something? Do I have to pay extra ;-)

  

Unless I am missing something, are you talking about Workspace Switcher?
If so, then move mouse over the workspace switcher, right mouse button 
click,

then select Preferences.  In the pop up Preferences menu, increase
Number of Workspaces

If not, sorry to bother you!

Dan

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Re: Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:14:43 -0500,
  Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
It would be _really_ nice if the installer could be re-run in this  
situation, offering to fix only the things that needed to be fixed  
(re-detect hardware, build a working initrd, install grub, fix your  
modprobe.conf and check your fstab and network setup).  You can do this  
gunk by hand, but it means you have to know as much as anaconda (which  
doesn't seem to be all that well documented...) about hardware and  
drivers.  You can sort-of get most of the effect by making /boot a  



I would think you could fix things up with a rescue disk pretty easily.
The rescue kernel will have the needed device drivers and you can chroot
to /mnt/sysimage and then run mkinitrd to fix up the initrd img files.
If the architecure and disk layout is the same this should cover most of
your configuration. Things that are missing are mostly going to be per
user preferences on which dvd drive is the default and the like.
  


I tried this:

1) Boot F9 LiveCD
2) Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 for text mode login
3) log in as root
4) mkdir /tmp/sysroot
5) mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sysroot  (sda7 = root partition)
6) mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sysroot/boot (sda6 = boot partition)
7) chroot /mnt/sysroot
8) cd /boot
9) mkdir orig
10) mv initrd* orig
11) mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686

 Note: the following message was spit out after running mkinitrd:
 # resolveDevice: device spec expexted
 # resolveDevice: device spec expexted

 I think that perhaps something is wrong here as seen below
 when the kernel fails to start with this new initrd

12) chcon -u system_u initrd-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
13) exit
14) umount /mnt/sysroot/boot
15) umount /mnt/sysroot
16) reboot

On rebooting, then grub starts.
Headers showing grub specific selection for
vmlinuz  initrd and the details are displayed,  then

Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done.
Booting the Kernel.
Redhat nash version 6.0.52 starting
Mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or 
directory

setuproot: moving  /dev failed: No such file or directory
setuproot: moving  /proc failed: No such file or directory
setuproot: moving  /sys failed: No such file or directory
Mount failed for selinixfs on /selinix: No such file or directory
switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory

I next went back and restored the original initrd and it booted fine
as before I created new mkinitrd, although the hardware devices are
still wrong (sound, for example).

So... what's next?

Dan

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Re: fedora installation

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:37 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
  

hello all,

I am interested in installing fedora on a laptop x61t (it is, to the
best of my understanding, a 64bit machine.)

a few questions I have:

* should 60-80 GB be reasonable for full installation of fedora?



The full system itself will use under 10GB. How much else you need
depends on what you're doing with it.

[snip!]

poc
  

As poc says, it depends on what you want to do with it. For me, all updates
were chosen: games, development, X11, X-window managers, sendmail, dns,
and *many* services and with exception to virtual machines and 
clustering, plus
livna non-free for music/video repos, I total aprox 66GB used space, so 
for all of
my Fedora/Ubuntu systems, I carve out approx, 75-100GB for my root 
partitions.
But this is probably extreme for a normal user.  I am sure if I went 
after all in livna
with MythTV and other apps, it would require more space, but then you 
can get
another big drive for that or make sure you get the biggest drive 
available for your
type of system (some laptops may only get one drive unless you plan to 
carry around

a USB drive) esp. if you want an archive of music/video files.

But your mileage may vary and it depends on what you want. If no X11/gui 
system

then root filesystem can have a very small footprint.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Arthur Pemberton wrote:

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote:



Hi all,

Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or
Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9.
  

I'll tell you the same thing here that I tell folks in the #fedora IRC
channel:

Both distros have live media. Why don't you download them and try out
each and decide for yourself which one you like?

kevin




Good advice.

I was installing Linux for a friend, and figured I'd give them Ubuntu
as I it would hopefully be easier for them than Fedora. Tried the
LiveCD, kept freezing up (requiring hard restarts). Did an install
figuring I just needed to update to a new kernel, pre and post full
system update, still kept hard freezing. So I went back to old
faithful Fedora.

  


Yeah, well, I discovered for me, the freezup is caused by screensaver.  
When you boot
up, go directly to screensaver and disable it completely.  After that - 
it stayed up all
night and into the next day and to the evening.  One thing I like about 
the Ubuntu
LiveCD is that they included partition manager - something that is 
lacking in Fedora's
F9 LiveCD but then again, Ubuntu lacks mkinitrd which is available in 
F9.  So, I
guess it is the small difference.  Also, as for F9, they have newer 
applications for which
Ubuntu is behind for example parition manager they have does not 
support labeling
and Nautilus is older - but then again Ubuntu has a longer shelf-life 
and of course you
have to wait for newer updates if and when they become available or 
build it yourself.


I guess from my standpoint Ubuntu is very good with support, they are 
somewhat more
stable and not a fast-moving target which could upset people who don't 
want instability
too quick and too soon (like my kids or Mom and Pop who are computer 
illiterate)


Both Ubuntu and Fedora are fabulous, but I am still a die-hard Fedorian ;)

Dan

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Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman


Hum...  I cannot figure out how to fix this particular issue.
I have tried to look for information in forums and mailers
but have not found any solutions to this.  Can you take a
look at the following and perhaps you might already know
of a solution?

/var/log/messages:
==
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key 
'/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Error setting value for 
`/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Unable to store a value at 
key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages', as the configuration 
server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this 
problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/path doesn't 
contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created 
two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS 
file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client 
machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that 
file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or had 
two at the time the second was launched), logging out, killing all 
copies of gconfd, and logging back in may help. If you have stale locks, 
remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the problem is that you attempted to use 
GConf from two machines at once, and ORBit still has its default 
configuration that prevents remote CORBA connections - put 
ORBIIOPIPv4=1 in /etc/orbitrc. As always, check the user.* syslog for 
details on problems gconfd encountered. There can only be one gconfd per 
home directory, and it must own a lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also 
lockfiles in individual storage locations such as ~/.gconf


Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key 
'/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: CRITICAL: 
gdm_option_widget_set_default_item: assertion `item == NULL || 
gdm_option_widget_lookup_item (widget, item, NULL, NULL, NULL)' failed
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Could not open saved state 
file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Permission denied

Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Exiting
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): starting (version 2.22.0), 
pid 15784 user 'admin'
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only 
configuration source at position 0
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readwrite:/home/admin/.gconf to a writable configuration source at 
position 1
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only 
configuration source at position 2

==

1) Not sure how to set the gconf key and path
   /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages
   and /apps does not exist.

2) Seems that gconf path file is there:
 # cd /etc/gconf/2
 # ls
 evoldap.conf  local-defaults.path  local-mandatory.path  path

3) gconfd was not doubly started, AFAIK - checked pgrep gconfd
   and only one processID exist.

4) There are no locks located in ~/.gconf*/*locks

I have removed and reinstalled gdm but that did not help.

Not sure what to do at this point...

Thanks!
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Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:


Hum...  I cannot figure out how to fix this particular issue.
I have tried to look for information in forums and mailers
but have not found any solutions to this.  Can you take a
look at the following and perhaps you might already know
of a solution?

/var/log/messages:
==
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key 
'/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Error setting value for 
`/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Unable to store a value 
at key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages', as the 
configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common 
causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file 
/etc/gconf/2/path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) 
somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating 
system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home 
directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly 
notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you 
have two gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was 
launched), logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back 
in may help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps 
the problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at 
once, and ORBit still has its default configuration that prevents 
remote CORBA connections - put ORBIIOPIPv4=1 in /etc/orbitrc. As 
always, check the user.* syslog for details on problems gconfd 
encountered. There can only be one gconfd per home directory, and it 
must own a lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also lockfiles in individual 
storage locations such as ~/.gconf


Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: WARNING: gconf key 
'/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages' is unset
Oct 30 16:42:26 bronze gdm-simple-greeter[15590]: CRITICAL: 
gdm_option_widget_set_default_item: assertion `item == NULL || 
gdm_option_widget_lookup_item (widget, item, NULL, NULL, NULL)' failed
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Could not open saved state 
file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Permission 
denied

Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Exiting
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): starting (version 
2.22.0), pid 15784 user 'admin'
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only 
configuration source at position 0
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readwrite:/home/admin/.gconf to a writable configuration source 
at position 1
Oct 30 16:42:31 bronze gconfd (admin-15784): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only 
configuration source at position 2

==

1) Not sure how to set the gconf key and path
   /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages
   and /apps does not exist.

2) Seems that gconf path file is there:
 # cd /etc/gconf/2
 # ls
 evoldap.conf  local-defaults.path  local-mandatory.path  path

3) gconfd was not doubly started, AFAIK - checked pgrep gconfd
   and only one processID exist.

4) There are no locks located in ~/.gconf*/*locks

I have removed and reinstalled gdm but that did not help.

Not sure what to do at this point...

Thanks!
Dan


Sorry, I missed the very beginning of gdm start, so here it is...


Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): starting (version 2.22.0), 
pid 15650 user 'gdm'
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to load source 
xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf: Couldn't resolve address for 
configuration source: Can't read from or write to the XML root directory 
in the address xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory to a read-only 
configuration source at position 0
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system to a read-only configuration 
source at position 1
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf.mandatory to a read-only 
configuration source at position 2
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Resolved address 
xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults to a read-only 
configuration source at position 3
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): None of the resolved 
addresses are writable; saving configuration settings will not be possible
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): No writable configuration 
sources successfully resolved. May be unable to save some configuration 
changes
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Unable to open saved state 
file '/var/lib/gdm/.gconfd/saved_state': Permission denied
Oct 30 16:42:09 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state 
file

Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
  
Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state 
file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to restore 
listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied)





might be useful to look at output of

rpm -Vq gdm

Craig
  

# rpm -Vq gdm
S.5T  c /etc/gdm/custom.conf
.MG./var/log/gdm

I have no idea what it means! ;)

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 
Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved 
state file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to 
restore listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied)





might be useful to look at output of

rpm -Vq gdm

Craig
  

# rpm -Vq gdm
S.5T  c /etc/gdm/custom.conf
.MG./var/log/gdm

I have no idea what it means! ;)

Thanks!
Dan


Here is more info:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dant]# cd /etc/gdm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# diff custom.conf custom.conf.rpmnew
4,7d3
 Enable=true
 Willing=/etc/gdm/Xwilling
 Xaccess=/etc/gdm/Xaccess
 Port=177
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -lZ custom.conf custom.conf.rpmnew
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0   custom.conf
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0   custom.conf.rpmnew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -ldZ /var/log/gdm
drwxrwx--T  root gdm system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gdm]# ls -lZ /var/log/gdm
-rw-r--r--  106 114 system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :0-greeter.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :0.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :1.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :2.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :3.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :4.log
-rw-r--r--  root root system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 :5.log

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Problems found in /var/log/messages: gdm related.

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:30 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
  

Craig White wrote:


On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
  
  
Oct 30 16:42:13 bronze gconfd (gdm-15650): Failed to open saved state 
file: Failed: Failed to open gconfd logfile; won't be able to restore 
listeners after gconfd shutdown (Permission denied)






might be useful to look at output of

rpm -Vq gdm

Craig
  
  

# rpm -Vq gdm
S.5T  c /etc/gdm/custom.conf
.MG./var/log/gdm

I have no idea what it means! ;)



might be useful to read the man page for rpm

# cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
# GDM configuration storage

[xdmcp]

[chooser]

[security]

[debug]

# ls -ld /var/log/gdm
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-29 08:05 /var/log/gdm

I honestly don't know what you are doing with the config/permissions and
these are clearly defaults because I use kdm and not gdm.

Craig
  

FYI: I did consult the man pages after I posted that comment and before
Patrick replied because I really cannot remember off the top of my head
what  the details were.

I can understand what rpm is reporting - and yes, there are differences
and since I am using Gnome, perhaps permissions will be different,
I just don't know yet.

I have another F9 system that does not report the errors in the log
messages and the Gdm files and permissions are exactly the same
between the two systems as far as the gdm log directory and custom
files go.  Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere and we are only seeing
it's symptoms.

As for the difference in custom.conf against custome.conf.rpmnew, it
is simply that I turned on XDMCP so that I can remotely connect to
the system and there is no other additions in that file.

I will however try to see if chmod 755 will work or not.
Will post when I find out more.

Dan

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Re: Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?

2008-10-29 Thread Dan Thurman

Les Mikesell wrote:

Mike wrote:

Dan Thurman dant at cdkkt.com writes:



What happened was that I spent a lot of time configuring
computer A, and rsync'd the root filesystem onto disk
at computer B.  I then rsync'd from hard disk to computer
C and everything was fine except that the hardware is
clearly different.


I am not sure that copying the root partition from one machine to 
another

is a good way to install Linux.

Was there some special reason not to use one of the normal install 
methods
from the DVD or Live CD? 


The usual reason for doing this is that you have done extensive 
configuration and/or installed local or 3rd party software that would 
take a lot of time to repeat.  Or you just want to know how things 
will work out if you have to restore from your backups on a new 
machine.  Or maybe your computer died and you really do have to 
restore from backups now.

Well said!


Or, you installed under VMware with a different host OS to test 
usability and now that you know everything works, you want to migrate 
your working setup to real hardware.

Yup!


It would be _really_ nice if the installer could be re-run in this 
situation, offering to fix only the things that needed to be fixed 
(re-detect hardware, build a working initrd, install grub, fix your 
modprobe.conf and check your fstab and network setup).  You can do 
this gunk by hand, but it means you have to know as much as anaconda 
(which doesn't seem to be all that well documented...) about hardware 
and drivers.  You can sort-of get most of the effect by making /boot a 
separate partition, doing a basic install on the new hardware, then 
removing everything except /boot and copying in your old stuff, but 
that seems unnecessarily cumbersome.



Perfect!

Also...

1) To test and see if rsync would work in restoring crashed,
update-damaged, user or act of god missing/destroyed
filesystem or broken hard disk as a backup/restore method.

2) Clone rsync'd filesystems to other computers to save a LOT
   of time, which remains to be seen.

I discovered that the reason for the text-screen/gui-screen flip-flop
was that I created a new xorg.conf file to reflect the new graphics
hardware and used the Xorg --configure command to create the
xorg.conf file which was placed in ~/xorg.conf.new.

I then copied this file to /etc/X11, rebooted, and there was flip-flopping.

I read on a forum that in F9, you simply do not have to have xorg.conf
in /etc/X11 and xorg would automatically find and setup the graphics.
Ok, so I renamed xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak, rebooted, and lo and behold!
It worked! So the problem is figuring out how to create a xorg.conf file
that will work properly - although I could just leave it missing in /etc/X11
but what are the consequences in doing that?

Then, I redid the steps 1-4, rebooted and firstboot comes up!

However

When I got to the last step for Hardware profiles, it came up with
a blank textbox showing no hardware!  Hmm...  I pressed the Back
button hoping that it would redo the hardware profiling - no luck!
So, how can I force a new hardware profiling?

BTW: Ever since I had been rebooting since the first time I rsync'd
root into my partition, HAL failed to start and I have not been able
to get this to work on boot.  When I was fully booted, logged in as
a normal user, became root and issued the command:

/usr/sbin/hald --verbose=yes

hald had started with no errors  what gives?

All of my services started with no errors except for hal.

So at this point, I am left wondering if all of my hardware
was even detected and updated (which I doubt), the xorg.conf
question, and that the hal daemon fails to start at boot time.
Seems this is all (so far) that I need to resolve.

Any ideas on where I can go from here?

Thanks!
Dan

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Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Thurman


What happened was that I spent a lot of time configuring
computer A, and rsync'd the root filesystem onto disk
at computer B.  I then rsync'd from hard disk to computer
C and everything was fine except that the hardware is
clearly different.

My X came up fine (I manually ran Xorg -configure, but as
for the rest of the hardware such as sound and other hardware
was clearly not the same so I used firstboot.

The instructions were:

1) mv /etc/sysconfig/firstboot /etc/sysconfig/firstboot.bak
2) rm /etc/sysconfig/firstboot
3) chkconfig --level 34 firstboot on
4) reboot

On rebooting, the screen starts in text screen, then flips over
to gui screen, then back to text screen, repeatedly, forever

5) If 1-4 does not work, then: touch /etc/reconfigSys
6) reboot

Same thing.

I searched the websites and could not find a solution.

So how can I reconfigure computer C hardware and
general setup (keyboard, mouse, sound, ...)?

Thanks!
Dan

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F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....

2008-10-26 Thread Dan Thurman


I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs,
I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user,
rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after
udev.

I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining
about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that
user anacron did not exist, and the system would then
shutdown and reboot.

On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single
user boot was successful.

In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing,
and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things:

1) There was a message to the effect that several important
   users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved
   from dbus's database.  The message appears too fast for me
   to write it all down exactly.

2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message
bus configuration file, for each important users.

Is there some way to repair the dbus database?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....

2008-10-26 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:


I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs,
I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user,
rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after
udev.

I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining
about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that
user anacron did not exist, and the system would then
shutdown and reboot.

On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single
user boot was successful.

In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing,
and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things:

1) There was a message to the effect that several important
   users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved
   from dbus's database.  The message appears too fast for me
   to write it all down exactly.

2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message
bus configuration file, for each important users.

Is there some way to repair the dbus database?

Thanks!
Dan


I forgot to add:

3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other
   services but continues on to the text login prompt.  Attempts
   login as root or any normal user will fail.

Dan

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Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....

2008-10-26 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:


I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs,
I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user,
rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after
udev.

I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining
about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that
user anacron did not exist, and the system would then
shutdown and reboot.

On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single
user boot was successful.

In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing,
and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things:

1) There was a message to the effect that several important
   users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved
   from dbus's database.  The message appears too fast for me
   to write it all down exactly.

2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message
bus configuration file, for each important users.

Is there some way to repair the dbus database?

Thanks!
Dan


I forgot to add:

3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other
   services but continues on to the text login prompt.  Attempts
   login as root or any normal user will fail.

Dan


Um... interesting

When I added selinix=0 to the grub command line for the kernel,
I was able to get my qui and logins to work  seems there is
something going on with SELinux and dbus

Can someone help me fix this issue?

Should I remove and reinstall SELinux/DBUS?  I will wait
until I get advice here before attempting this step

Thanks again,
Dan

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Re: [SOLVED] F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....

2008-10-26 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:


I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs,
I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user,
rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after
udev.

I tried ^D and noticed that something complaining
about /var/run/anacron was not removable and that
user anacron did not exist, and the system would then
shutdown and reboot.

On rebooting, I stopped grub and added -s and single
user boot was successful.

In single user, I checked what I could and finding nothing,
and proceeded with ^D and noticed several things:

1) There was a message to the effect that several important
   users (root, anacron, and others) was not able to be retrieved
   from dbus's database.  The message appears too fast for me
   to write it all down exactly.

2) Repeated messages of: Unknown username root in message
bus configuration file, for each important users.

Is there some way to repair the dbus database?

Thanks!
Dan


I forgot to add:

3) The system fails to start dbus, anacron, and a couple of other
   services but continues on to the text login prompt.  Attempts
   login as root or any normal user will fail.

Dan


Um... interesting

When I added selinix=0 to the grub command line for the kernel,
I was able to get my qui and logins to work  seems there is
something going on with SELinux and dbus

Can someone help me fix this issue?

Should I remove and reinstall SELinux/DBUS?  I will wait
until I get advice here before attempting this step

Thanks again,
Dan


Ok, I solved this problem but it is interesting to note...

1) Boot in single user mode
2) touch /.autorelabel
3) reboot
4) When grub comes up, stop and edit the kernel line and add -s (single 
user mode)

5) Booting in single user mode ensures that selinux will be able to relabel
   the files.  If you do not boot in single user mode, then normal booting
   will not allow selinx to work and to relabel these files!

Dan

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Re: F9: Manually editing passwd/group files causes rebooting to freeze up after udev....

2008-10-26 Thread Dan Thurman

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Dan Thurman wrote:

  

I was manually changing the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
file since my users were incorrectly assigned UID/GIDs,
I manually corrected the UID/GID in /home for each user,
rebooted and noticed that I would get a hang just after
udev.



Aren't we meant to use vipw and vigr to edit these files?
On editing from vigr one is asked to run vigr -s
to edit the shadow file.

  

Interesting!  I had NO IDEA if this is the case, being a user of
older Unix systems.  Thanks for the tip, I'll know better now!

Dan

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F9: Desktop Effect and Compiz: How to manually disable it?

2008-10-21 Thread Dan Thurman


I have enabled 'Desktop Effects'  (Compiz) and tried it out
and it looks pretty cool.  I was able to logout and log back
in, everything is fine.

Next, I used the Compiz Configuration Tool (cscm), added
a few more bells and whistles, and I did not get any immediate
changes after closing the cscm dialog window.  But I was curious
about emerald, so I used the command-line command for emerald
and cool - I had emerald window wraps!

Then

I logged off and logged back in - and got the dreaded windows
white screen of death!  Rats.  There was no windows cursors
and nothing seemed to work (mouse clicks and random keystrokes)
until I hit ALT-S - and the mouse cursor popped in - but still, the
screen stayed white.

I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and the window logged out and the
GUI login screen appeared.

Next, I logged in as a different user that did not have desktop
effects (Compiz) enabled, so everything was fine.

My question is, is there a command-line command or can
I manually disable Desktop-Effects (Compiz) for that user
where it failed (since obviously I cannot use the the user's
desktop window to disable desktop-effects)?  I would like
to restore this user (it is not mine!) to a sane state and try a
temporary user to resolve this problem for later.

I searched everywhere for a solution and even posted
my problem on Compiz's Forum waiting for a resolution,
but I wanted to post this specific request here seeking the
answer to manually disable the desktop-effects.

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: F9: Desktop Effect and Compiz: How to manually disable it? [SOLVED (sort of)]

2008-10-21 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:


I have enabled 'Desktop Effects'  (Compiz) and tried it out
and it looks pretty cool.  I was able to logout and log back
in, everything is fine.

Next, I used the Compiz Configuration Tool (cscm), added
a few more bells and whistles, and I did not get any immediate
changes after closing the cscm dialog window.  But I was curious
about emerald, so I used the command-line command for emerald
and cool - I had emerald window wraps!

Then

I logged off and logged back in - and got the dreaded windows
white screen of death!  Rats.  There was no windows cursors
and nothing seemed to work (mouse clicks and random keystrokes)
until I hit ALT-S - and the mouse cursor popped in - but still, the
screen stayed white.

I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and the window logged out and the
GUI login screen appeared.

Next, I logged in as a different user that did not have desktop
effects (Compiz) enabled, so everything was fine.

My question is, is there a command-line command or can
I manually disable Desktop-Effects (Compiz) for that user
where it failed (since obviously I cannot use the the user's
desktop window to disable desktop-effects)?  I would like
to restore this user (it is not mine!) to a sane state and try a
temporary user to resolve this problem for later.

I searched everywhere for a solution and even posted
my problem on Compiz's Forum waiting for a resolution,
but I wanted to post this specific request here seeking the
answer to manually disable the desktop-effects.

Thanks!
Dan


I gave up trying to fix it.

I did locate: ~/.gnome2/sessions, deleted this file, and then
had to go back in as this user (the white screen of death went
away), but had to set everything up again which was quicker
than trying to pick through the mess and waste even more time.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-20 Thread Dan Thurman

Claude Jones wrote:


On Sun October 19 2008 12:12:35 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:

 Dan Thurman wrote:

  plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' 
perminate


  to load every time.

 

  I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address:

  '12.x.x.x'



 NoScript is not going to help you get Java working. g should have been

 more clear about that. I would recommend uninstalling it at least until

 you solve your original problem.



 As Nigel noted, you will probably have to install Sun Java in order to

 use your site. There are many tutorials specifically about this, such

 as

 
http://www.ilovetux.com/2008/05/fedora-9-sun-java-on-fedora-9-install.html


 .



 Matt Flaschen

I hope this question is related to the discussion, sufficiently. Since 
it pertains to switching from gcj to sun java, I think it does. I 
found several problems with that page you link to, and solved them, 
but, I'm not sure if what I did was correct. First, the version 
numbers included in the various commands have to be adjusted since the 
actual version you download from the site has progressed beyond the 
one that's used in the suggested commands - that's fairly trivial, but 
needs to be pointed out. Once I sorted that out, I could not find an 
elegant way to turn off gcj; my first inclination was to remove it, 
but, that led to a request to delete about 25 other packages from my 
machine for dependencies - I stopped that. Then I tried to remove the 
plug-in from Mozilla - creating the linked file to the java, as 
suggested by one of the commands on that linked page, had already 
produced a message that the file existed, so I suppose that 
libjavaplugin_oji.so was being used by gcj; I renamed that file and 
then ran the link command again - that appeared to be successful and 
produced the appearance of Sun Java in the plug-in list in Firefox; 
but, the gcj plug-in was still there, and attempts to use the ATT 
Relay site continued to fail; then I renamed a second plug-in in the 
mozilla plug-in folder called libjavaplugin.so - that didn't work, 
because it was simply a link to another *.so file somewhere I suppose, 
so gcj continued to appear in my plug-in list in Firefox - finally, I 
just created a folder inside the Mozilla plug-in folder called 'old' 
and moved the now renamed files 'libjavaplugin_oji.so.gcj' and 
'libjavaplugin.so.gcj' to this folder, and that finally solved the 
problem. Now, the only java that appears in my Firefox plug-in list is 
the one from Sun, and the ATT Relay site works perfectly.


So, my question is, was there some better way of accomplishing this 
end? If not, this is not what one could call a simple solution, and 
that page you linked to will definitely NOT get the desired result 
without a lot of hacking. I'm betting I came up with a kludge, and 
there must be a better way.


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Claude Jones

Brunswick, MD


Gawd.  What a tough nut to crack, but I got it.

The relaycall.com site does not work with F9's OpenJdk, at least for me.

But after installing Sun's Java and configuring the /etc/alternatives using
galternatives, I was able to get this site working now.

1) You do not need to create the libjavaplugin_oji.so in 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugin directory
as I have tested this.  Use galternatives to set this link 
(libjavaplugin.so) to Sun's plugin

   and the link is updated properly in /etc/alternatives directory.

2) After you have installed Sun's Java, you still need to make sure
   that the /etc/alternatives contains information to Sun's Java 
installation.

  To do that, use the nifty tool: galternatives:

   1) run: galternatives

   2) Click on left pane: java
   If: /usr/java/jrel1.6.0_07/bin/java on  right pane is not there, 
then
   Click; Add, then Browse, and add the path in.   You can set the 
priority
   as desired. Be sure to click the radio-button on the correct 
version you want to use!


   3) Click on left pane: libjavaplugin.so
   If: /usr/java/jrel1.6.0_07/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
on the right pane is not there, then
  Click: Add, then Browse, and add the path in.  You can set the 
priority as desired.
   Be sure to click the radio-button on the correct version you 
want to use!


   4) After configuring as above, you need to restart FF since the 
changes are not

   dynamically updated within FF.

Cheers,
Dan

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F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman


I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
to use it?

I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that
is not the problem.

Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps
I actually do not have Java installed on F9?  If so, what
steps do I need to take in order to make it work?

Thanks!
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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:


I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
to use it?

I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that
is not the problem.

Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps
I actually do not have Java installed on F9?  If so, what
steps do I need to take in order to make it work?

Thanks!
Dan

Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the 
dust) ;)


I DID search but could not figure it out.

Now, back to what some have asked:

1) Try this site: http://www.relaycall.com (it's for deaf people
who are trying to reach non-deaf people over the phone) and
it complains (for me) :
Error - You must enable Java to use ATT Relay Services.

2) about:plugins (Long list!)

Note: I do have all of GCJ/Iced-Tea modules (or so it seems)
   File name: gcjwebplugin.so
   The GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) executes Java applets.
   See below for all the Yes for specifics.


DivX Browser Plug-In

   File name: gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so
   Gecko Media Player 0.8.0

   Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media 
Player streams using MPlayer


MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
video/divx DivX Media Format divx Yes
video/vnd.divx DivX Media Format divx Yes
QuickTime Plug-in 7.4.5

   File name: gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so
   Gecko Media Player 0.8.0

   Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media 
Player streams using MPlayer


MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
video/quicktime Quicktime mov Yes
video/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes
image/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes
video/quicktime Quicktime mp4 Yes
video/quicktime Quicktime - Session Description Protocol sdp Yes
application/x-quicktimeplayer Quicktime mov Yes
RealPlayer 9

   File name: gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so
   Gecko Media Player 0.8.0

   Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media 
Player streams using MPlayer


MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
audio/x-pn-realaudio RealAudio ram,rm Yes
application/vnd.rn-realmedia RealMedia rm Yes
application/vnd.rn-realaudio RealAudio ra,ram Yes
video/vnd.rn-realvideo RealVideo rv Yes
audio/x-realaudio RealAudio ra Yes
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealAudio rpm Yes
application/smil SMIL smil Yes
Windows Media Player Plug-in

   File name: gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so
   Gecko Media Player 0.8.0

   Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media 
Player streams using MPlayer


MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/asx Media Files * Yes
video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes
video/x-msvideo AVI avi,* Yes
video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes
application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes
application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes
video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes
video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes
video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes
audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes
video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes
application/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes
video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media wvx,* Yes
audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes
audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes
application/x-drm-v2 Windows Media asx,* Yes
audio/wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes
audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes
gecko-mediaplayer 0.8.0

   File name: gecko-mediaplayer.so
   Gecko Media Player 0.8.0

   Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media 
Player streams using MPlayer


MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
video/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes
audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes
video/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes
video/x-mpeg2 MPEG2 mpv2,mp2ve Yes
audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes
audio/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes
audio/mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes
audio/x-mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes
audio/mp4 MPEG 4 audio mp4 Yes
audio/x-mp4 MPEG 4 audio mp4 Yes
video/mp4 MPEG 4 Video mp4 Yes
video/x-m4v MPEG 4 Video m4v Yes
video/3gpp MPEG 4 Video mp4,3gp Yes
audio/mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes
audio/x-mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes
audio/x-mpegurl MPEG url m3u Yes
audio/mp3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes
application/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Media ogg Yes
audio/ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes
audio/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes
application/ogg Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora ogg Yes
audio/flac FLAC Audio flac Yes
audio

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman

g wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

  

Dan Thurman wrote:


I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
to use it?
  


  
Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the 
dust) ;)



he is just having another bad day. we all have them at
one time or other. his just tend to be more often. ;o)

when he is having a good day, his help can be tremendous.
i can really attest to that for help he has given to me.

now, back to your problem,

  

2) about:plugins (Long list!)



could have been shorter with just java.

my java:

application/x-java-vm
application/x-java-applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.5
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_16
application/x-java-bean
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.5
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.5.0_16

being that i have 'noscript' installed, all i had to do was click
'allow relaycall.com', plus the 2 url number addresses and all worked.

you may want to log
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722
then click 'add to firefox'.

it will make you life a lot more enjoyable.

plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate
to load every time.

  
I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: 
'12.x.x.x'
(but there was no second address that I could see) and the site still 
thinks there

is no Java installed or so it seems.  Not sure what is wrong at this point.

Anything I can try or report?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman

Dan Thurman wrote:

g wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

 

Dan Thurman wrote:
   

I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
to use it?
  


 
Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off 
the dust) ;)



he is just having another bad day. we all have them at
one time or other. his just tend to be more often. ;o)

when he is having a good day, his help can be tremendous.
i can really attest to that for help he has given to me.

now, back to your problem,

 

2) about:plugins (Long list!)



could have been shorter with just java.

my java:

application/x-java-vm
application/x-java-applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2
application/x-java-applet;version=1.5
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_16
application/x-java-bean
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2
application/x-java-bean;version=1.5
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.5.0_16

being that i have 'noscript' installed, all i had to do was click
'allow relaycall.com', plus the 2 url number addresses and all worked.

you may want to log
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722
then click 'add to firefox'.

it will make you life a lot more enjoyable.

plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate
to load every time.

  
I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: 
'12.x.x.x'
(but there was no second address that I could see) and the site still 
thinks there
is no Java installed or so it seems.  Not sure what is wrong at this 
point.


Anything I can try or report?

One more thing and I cannot seem to figure what this message in yellow and
at the bottom of the page means:

Scripts Partially Allowed 1/2 (relaycall.com) | SCRIPT : 2 | OBJECT 
: 0


Dan

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Grub and Chainloaders

2008-10-14 Thread Dan Thurman


I have successfully arranged Grubs in the following way:

-Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended--
[boot-sys] [boot-f8] [boot-f9] [ [root-f8] [root-f9] [f-App1] [swap] ]

boot-sys:

[...]
#boot=/dev/sda
timeout=10
default=saved
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora 8
   norootverify (hd0,1)
   chainloader +1
title Fedora 9
   norootverify (hd0,2)
   chainloader +1


boot-sys has grub/grub.conf but no initrd/kernels installed
and boot-f8/9 partitions has the normal initrd/kernel/grub.conf
installed.  It all works great.

But on a different system, I tried a different setup:

-Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended--
[XP   ] [ Vista ] [boot-sys] [ [w-app1] [boot-f9] [boot-f10] 
[root-f9] [root-f10] [f-App1] [swap] ]


boot-sys:
- I left the original f9 xinitrd/kermel/grub.conf in boot-sys and
  modified boot-sys's grub.conf as follows:

boot-sys:

[...]
#boot=/dev/sda
timeout=10
default=saved
splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora 9
   norootverify (hd0,4)
   chainloader +1
   savedefault
title Fedora (2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686)
   root (hd0,4)
   kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 ro root=LABEL=root-f9 rhgb 
quiet

   initrd /initrd-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.img
   savedefault


I can boot F9 via the second title definition, but when I attempt
to boot using the first title definition (using chainloader +1),
grub complains:

Error 13: Invalid or unsupported  executable format

Thinking that the chainloader +1 was not finding the right
partition, I assumed that +1 means to locate the next partition,
so I tried values of 2,3,4, and 5 and they all reported the same
error.

I wonder if perhaps grub is unable to reach the partition beyond
a fixed size (my MB+BIOs is as new as 2 months ago, so I surmise
it isn't a BIOS limitation), or grub cannot reach into extended
partitions, or if it can, maybe I will need to move the boot-fX
to the beginning of the extended partitions.  In any case, I know
that moving boot-fX into it's own primary partitions works but
then I won't be able to add XP or Vista into its own primary
partitions and would have to get a second drive separating
windows from Fedora which I know will work.

But I'd prefer to not to buy a second drive at this time, so the
question is, does anyone have any idea what is going on or
have any suggestions how to get this to work?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Grub and Chainloaders [SOLVED]

2008-10-14 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


I have successfully arranged Grubs in the following way:

-Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended--
[boot-sys] [boot-f8] [boot-f9] [ [root-f8] [root-f9] [f-App1] [swap] ]

boot-sys:

[...]
#boot=/dev/sda
timeout=10
default=saved
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora 8
norootverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
title Fedora 9
norootverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1


boot-sys has grub/grub.conf but no initrd/kernels installed
and boot-f8/9 partitions has the normal initrd/kernel/grub.conf
installed.  It all works great.

But on a different system, I tried a different setup:

-Primary--Primary--Primary--Extended--
[XP   ] [ Vista ] [boot-sys] [ [w-app1] [boot-f9] [boot-f10]
[root-f9] [root-f10] [f-App1] [swap] ]

boot-sys:
 - I left the original f9 xinitrd/kermel/grub.conf in boot-sys and
   modified boot-sys's grub.conf as follows:

boot-sys:

[...]
#boot=/dev/sda
timeout=10
default=saved
splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora 9
norootverify (hd0,4)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Fedora (2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 ro root=LABEL=root-f9 rhgb
quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.img
savedefault


I can boot F9 via the second title definition, but when I attempt
to boot using the first title definition (using chainloader +1),
grub complains:

Error 13: Invalid or unsupported  executable format

Thinking that the chainloader +1 was not finding the right
partition, I assumed that +1 means to locate the next partition,
so I tried values of 2,3,4, and 5 and they all reported the same
error.

I wonder if perhaps grub is unable to reach the partition beyond
a fixed size (my MB+BIOs is as new as 2 months ago, so I surmise
it isn't a BIOS limitation), or grub cannot reach into extended
partitions, or if it can, maybe I will need to move the boot-fX
to the beginning of the extended partitions.  In any case, I know
that moving boot-fX into it's own primary partitions works but
then I won't be able to add XP or Vista into its own primary
partitions and would have to get a second drive separating
windows from Fedora which I know will work.

But I'd prefer to not to buy a second drive at this time, so the
question is, does anyone have any idea what is going on or
have any suggestions how to get this to work?


Sigh.  I figured it out by reading through my notes from a previous
posting I made some time ago.  The step I forgot was to mark
each of boot partitions with grub's setup command.

Sorry for this posting,
Dan

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F9: Problems reaching Internet

2008-10-13 Thread Dan Thurman


To make a long story short, I had a crashed my F9 system and
now it seems that I cannot figure out why I can reach all of
my local LAN systems, but I can no longer reach the Internet.

I have the network service running, I have the setup my
network via the `network' tool, I have disabled the firewall
and I am still not able to reach the Internet.

Can someone suggest a list of steps I can try to troubleshoot
my problem?  I am drawing a blank at this time :(

Thanks-
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Re: F9: Problems reaching Internet [SOLVED]

2008-10-13 Thread Dan Thurman

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:


Dan Thurman wrote:

 To make a long story short, I had a crashed my F9 system and
 now it seems that I cannot figure out why I can reach all of
 my local LAN systems, but I can no longer reach the Internet.

 I have the network service running, I have the setup my
 network via the `network' tool, I have disabled the firewall
 and I am still not able to reach the Internet.

 Can someone suggest a list of steps I can try to troubleshoot
 my problem?  I am drawing a blank at this time :(

What does your routing table look like?  Does it have a default route?

 Thanks-
 Dan



Ah.  that was it!  I had the wrong default route!
Sometimes when sick, it clouds the mind!

Thanks!
Dan

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F9: System hangs after long inactivity.

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Thurman


I have just gotten ahold of my daughter's system and now
and looking at why is it, that her system hangs after a long
period of inactive use (ie when she goes to bed, goes to work,
then comes home to find a hung system).  I tried this myself
now and find it to be 100% consistent.

This problem never occurred before, with the oldest kernel
(kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686) and before the massive updates
that included new kernels+xorg/ltsp and it only happens
with the Intel DQ35J0 but not with the ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
which is my own system?

When it hangs, there is no possible way to enter into the system
so a forced reset was required.  In doing this, it also corrupts
the fs, and I am forced to issue a fsck -y to recover the fs which
would restore the fs and I would then be able to boot and log
into the F9 system, only to find that after a long inactivity,
the system would hang again.

The last time that I had to repeat this cycle again, I found that
the fs reverted to ext2 (previously was ext3), I could no longer
boot the fs and got the following boot information:

[...]
ext3:  No Journal on filesystem on sda6
mount:  error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3
setuproot: moving /dev/failed: No such file or directory
  : error mounting /proc: No such file or directory
  : error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory
switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory.

So, I booted wih F9-Live, and checked out the sda6 filesystem
and noted that I was able to review the contents of this filesystem
and it appears that the filesystem is all there but there are files
saved in the lost+found directory and it was confirmed that the
fs is of ext2.

Is it possible to use QParted to reconvert the ext2 filesystem back
into ext3 without losing the data?  If not, then my plan is to use
CloneZilla to save the data to an image stored elsewhere and to
restore this image into a new ext3 filesystem partition, and hope
to recover the data this way or am I wasting my time in doing so?

I also checked the BIOs, and noted that 'Wake up on Lan' is enabled
and as far as I can tell, there is no possible way for me to disable it.

I noticed that someone had reported this same problem, and disabling
WOL, would prevent the system from shutting down and hang with
the PS still running - so perhaps I am experiencing this same/similar
problem previously reported here in this forum.

So, why is it, so it seems, that this WOL is now a problem with the
newer kernel/updates when it wasn't before - is there something new
in the kernel that now recognizes the WOL and does things with it
when it wasn't a problem before - or is it something else?

Dan

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Re: F9 RHGB Display Has Vanished

2008-10-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Trapper wrote:


I have four F9 boxes and all have a unique rhgb problem. I have no rhgb
display. Instead of the rhgb screen the boot up falls back to a simple
text screen. All grubs call for rhgb. I am current with updates on all
machines. It isn't display card specific. This happens with nvidia
cards, s3 unichrome cards, etc.

Is anyone else having this problem? I've browsed the archives. I can
find info about a similar difficulty at one point in F8 but no fix that
works with F9.

This difficulty has been prevalent for about a month now and I've found
no cure. Seems real strange that I have 4 different boxes with the same
release acting the same way.


Yes, it's been a month+ and no resolution so far.
See BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462980

... and add your complaint there.

Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-08 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686 (or newer):

   - No Gui startup after udev
   - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
   - mount: missing mount point
   - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
- switchroot: Mount failed
- system hangs


Thanks to the RH team for fixing the
above non-bootable kernel!

Note: The problem of the boot time GUI is not resolved
and it appears to be related to the latest xorg updates
and no fixes are known at this time, AFAIK.

For those of you who have encountered the unbootable
kernel with the nfs root target message,  here is what
you need to do:

Using your latest working bootable kernel:
===
1) rpm -e ltsp-client (or yum remove ltsp-client)
2) mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-VERSION.img VERSION

I have tested the above with kernel versions:
2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686
2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686

 and the problems disappears!

Note: I did not consciously install ltsp-client and
this must have been included in the updates AFTER
kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686.  Strangely, the problem
appeared only with kernels above: 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686
which was installed/updated AFTER 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686.
My guess is that initrd was (re)built when ltsp-client was
installed just before the new kernels were added.

Cheers!
Dan

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Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds

2008-10-07 Thread Dan Thurman

Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote:


Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 09:48 -0500 schrieb Arthur Pemberton:
 When was the last time you dismantled and cleaned the machine?

Arthur:

Three monts ago? Seems clean, though.
- I changed the memory DIMMs.
- Disconnected the machine electrig plug.
- Pushed RESET button for about a minute.

I repeat: since the power outage, it reboots every 1.00.19, approx.

Tim:

could not be a cron issue, that would lead to exactly 1 hour rebooting.
Every 3 reboots means 3 hours and a minute (look my previous logs).

# ls -l /etc/cron.hourly/
total 0
# at -l
# uname -r
2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686


In order, check:

1) Hardware: Fan. cooling, power-supply starvation, etc.
   Do not OS boot anything - see if your system shuts down
   without any OS running. If it does, then it is likely something
   with your Hardware or your BIOS.

2) BIOS?  Any special settings involving CPU/RAM or FAN settings?
   Check everything in the BIOs to ensure it makes sense

3) Boot from KNOPPIX/Live Fedora and see if system reboots.
   if your system reboots, check (2) then (1). If the system does
   not reboot, then continue.

4)  Have you done any installs, updates, or manual changes to your OS?

You can try to locate the offending software issue or you can start over
with a new OS install.

You could try booting with a previous kernel version.  It is not clear if
your problem is due to the kernel, due to installed/updated
packages,  or due to modifications you made to your system.

If you want to fix your existing setup, try divide and conquer method:
turning all services off, then enabled one at a time,  or turning all 
essential

services are on, and then turn off each service, one at a time.

Dan

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Re: kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 - non graphical boot?

2008-10-05 Thread Dan Thurman

Antonio M wrote:


2008/10/5 Dan Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Antonio M wrote:

 with 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 kernel and latest
 xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-9.fc10, gdm-2.24.0-8.fc10, everything is
 running fine.

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if you look in bugzilla, you will see that both F9 and F10 are/were
affected by same bug.
And also now my system in F9 is running fine after yesterday's updates
(I can't grab it as I am out of home)


Really?  Yesterday,  I did updates too, but it did not work
for me - however - I did not get the xorg or kernel updates
for f9.  Where did you get it?

Thanks!
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Re: kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 - non graphical boot?

2008-10-02 Thread Dan Thurman

Mike wrote:


Is it just me or does kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 not give a graphical 
boot?



It is not just you, but me as well.  I have Intel graphics
chip-sets as I posted this and BZ as well:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465132

My motherboards are:

1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333: LGA779, Intel 945GC + ICH7
2) Intel DQ35J0: GMA 3100, Q35 Express Chipset, ICH9DO

See my post: Updates caused problems...

Note: All of my problems started when the kernel
bootup says: ... parsing ELF...



For (1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333:

The kernel HANGS with kernel versions:
kernel-2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686
kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686

For 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686:
the startup GUI fails but startup text (init)
continues on and successfully starts login GUI



For (2) Intel DQ35J0:

All of the Kernel versions do not hang.
The startup GUI fails but startup text (init)
continues on and successfully starts login GUI

I believe this is related to the xorg updates
some time after kernels releases later than
kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686

But as for the HANGing - I have NO CLUE what
is going on nor why. See my posting for further
information as the the boot sequence data therein

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Antonio M wrote:


2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333

 (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:

- No Gui startup after udev
- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
- mount: missing mount point
- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
 - switchroot: Mount failed
 - system hangs

 I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
 


did you file a bug???


No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.

I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous
kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)

I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly
the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have
nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a 
seperate issue.

Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled)
because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.

So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and 
I get

for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:

Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed
by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna)

Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.

When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.

I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 Antonio M wrote:
 
  2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
   1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
  
   (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
  
  - No Gui startup after udev
  - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
  - mount: missing mount point
  - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /selinux (No such file or 
directory)

   - switchroot: Mount failed
   - system hangs
  
   I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
  
 
  did you file a bug???
 
 No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
 to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.

 I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
 and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the 
previous

 kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)

 I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and 
interestingly
 the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears 
to have

 nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a
 seperate issue.
 Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna 
disabled)

 because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.

 So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and
 I get
 for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:

 Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is 
needed
 by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 
(livna)


 Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
 kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.

 When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
 person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.

 I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
 it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a
great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help.

Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's
the perfect place for qualified help.

Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla

It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't
experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique
to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that
you need.

Craig


What has changed?  I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this
list no longer says: For Fedora Users, where has this list moved to
so that I can get a more technical level of support?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 Antonio M wrote:
 
  2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
   1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
  
   (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
  
  - No Gui startup after udev
  - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
  - mount: missing mount point
  - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /selinux (No such file or 
directory)

   - switchroot: Mount failed
   - system hangs
  
   I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
  
 
  did you file a bug???
 
 No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
 to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.

 I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
 and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the 
previous

 kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)

 I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and 
interestingly
 the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears 
to have

 nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a
 seperate issue.
 Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna 
disabled)

 because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.

 So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and
 I get
 for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:

 Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is 
needed
 by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 
(livna)


 Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
 kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.

 When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
 person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.

 I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
 it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a
great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help.

Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's
the perfect place for qualified help.

Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla

It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't
experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique
to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that
you need.

Craig


Clearly:

1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
Does not work for two different motherboards/systems,
   nor for: Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me.  This kernel
   is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel
   version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue.

2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last week)
and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and *maybe*
later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is 
not a

show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the login
gui still appears.

3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper as I have
   removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna
   group know about it.  It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper
   expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer
   available in the repos.  Many of the other kmods reported many
   other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of sync',
   perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues
   (1) and (2)

Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora
since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to
do with Livna (so I think).

Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report
individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique'
problems?  How does one know if they are unique problems before
they post it?  And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed
to do?  What is the point of this mailing list with the following
statement:

Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora

You come across as if to to say: go to livna and ignore the the other
two problems reported altogether?

This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to
remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see
why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed.

I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle
each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not,
perhaps a link, perhaps what

Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:40 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 What has changed?  I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this
 list no longer says: For Fedora Users, where has this list moved to
 so that I can get a more technical level of support?

The only thing that has changed is the name (also I think the list
owners, but that's administrivia).

poc


Thank you for being helpful!  So, this list has not really
changed and I can assume that this is the right list for me
in terms of reporting potential problem/issue as if for
confirmation, before going off and filing off false problem
reports into Bugzilla.

Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:38 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:

 Clearly:

 1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
  Does not work for two different motherboards/systems,
 nor for: Renich Bon Ciric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me.  This kernel
 is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel
 version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue.

 2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last 
week)
  and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and 
*maybe*

  later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is
 not a
  show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the 
login

  gui still appears.

 3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper 
as I have

 removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna
 group know about it.  It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper
 expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer
 available in the repos.  Many of the other kmods reported many
 other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of 
sync',

 perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues
 (1) and (2)

 Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora
 since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to
 do with Livna (so I think).

 Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report
 individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique'
 problems?  How does one know if they are unique problems before
 they post it?  And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed
 to do?  What is the point of this mailing list with the following
 statement:

 Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora

 You come across as if to to say: go to livna and ignore the the other
 two problems reported altogether?

 This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to
 remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see
 why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed.

 I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle
 each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not,
 perhaps a link, perhaps what to report, with what expected information,
 etc, so that at least I am not left perplexed as to what I really 
need to do

 next.

OK - I too will ignore the livna items

I think you can lean on the list all you wish. In fact, you seem to lean
on the list excessively but as long as people can and will help you out,
that's great.

I am not trying to discourage you from using Fedora. This list however
does nothing to 'report' problems - that's what bugzilla is for.

Craig


Thank you for letting me know how you feel.  Perhaps I do lean on this
list for the reasons stated (1) to discover if the problem reported has 
already

been reported and/or there is a fix and/or someone is working on it and
(2) to let anyone know about it so they can benefit from the posting if it
concerns them.  I know that many have responded asking for details
especially if the problem has been resolved by me or if others have
resolved it - a networked community helping each other out which
is the benefit of using this list in the first place.  IMO, there are a few
people esp. newbies,  go to a Bugzilla site to search for answers to
their specific problems - simply because - it is not that simple to find
so this mailing list provides them that forum where they can ask
about it and hopefully someone might know, and help out.

I have been resistant to using Bugzilla because it is a pain for me since
I use it so rarely and trying to fill in the fields for which I have not 
a clue

such as to what product/component the product/issue involves,  what
relevant data to provide which requires an intimate technical detail
level that a professional Fedora expert might know which can be beyond
a (semi) newbie's depth. But, I will try with each passing day to `get
used to it' and maybe it will become easier over time.

Kind regards,
Dan

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Re: livna update of kmod

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

don vogt wrote:


 I suspect I may have missed something in reconfiguring for the new 
key. I have updated the kernel a couple of times. Once on an fc9 
machine with an nvidia card (which needs kmod-nvidia-96xx) and once on 
fc9 using kqemu. Each time when I boot the system can't find the kmod 
for my new kernel I tried to update the kmods, with --enable repo 
=livna, with no luck.


 I looked on the livna wiki and I have been watching here for 
something about this situation. help would be appreciated. I am lost.


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I reported this as well in my posting: Updates causes problems...

It turns out (I think) that livna kmods are built with kernels that are
older and fails to be installed via akmod --force as well.  Perhaps the
builds have not yet caught up with the latest kernel release, dunno.

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Updates caused problems...

2008-09-29 Thread Dan Thurman


I have updated two different machines and ran
into the following problems as of yesterday
and today:

1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333

(a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:

  - No Gui startup after udev
  - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
  - mount: missing mount point
  - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
 : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
   - switchroot: Mount failed
   - system hangs

(b) If booting previous kernel 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686:

  + Worked with updates prior to that of last week or so,
startup/login gui worked fine, however:

  - Due to current updates (last few days):
 - Startup gui fails to come up just after udev, but login
   gui works.
 - (yesterday) Startup reported 3 kmod  warnings (files
   were missing and startup was unable to force kmod builds)
   but continued to login
   gui.
 - (today): yum updated with several new kmods, then rebooted:
+ Startup forced kmod rebuild but kmod-ndiswrapper failed
+ Startup continued and and gui login came up, but after
  login:
  - firefox has installed *many* language plug-ins (that
I did not choose) and *everytime* you log in, the
extensions dialog pops up - so I disabled all the
language plugins I did not need but could not un-install
them, and the annoyance stopped.

2) Intel DQ35J0

(a) New kernel in 1a worked and did not have any problems,
and it did not hang.
(b) Same as 1b above, but using the same kernel as 1a above.


FWIW,
Dan

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DVD VOBS installed on HD, how does one start the movie?

2008-09-29 Thread Dan Thurman


I have downloaded a movie onto the hard drive
and I have a bunch of VOBs and all that but when
I open say, VLC, how does one start?

If I `open directory' it seems to find the Welcome
page and plays to the end; I can select Language, etc,
and return to main, but from there it does not seem to
be able to `start the movie' seamlessly.

Seems at the moment, I have to select the specific VOBs
in the proper order but it is not obvious.

Any advice?

Thanks!
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Your favorite Music/Video player?

2008-09-25 Thread Dan Thurman


I have been using Amarok for awhile, but I find
it so frustrating to use when it comes to updating
tags - it seems to do a very poor job reading/updating
the audio file tags.  I want to switch to something
else that is more reliable, Amarok crashes alot esp.
under heavy load.

I liked Amarok's layout/list and other nifty features
but it is getting to the point that I am unable to
consistently keep my tags straight.  Amarok seems
to have trouble handling ID3 tags (I use Audio Tags
Tools externally in attempts to force tags they way I
want them to be and ATT supports ID3 v1.0
and v2.0) but Amarok has a nasty habit of
reading these tags improperly and/or inconsistently
so it seems, so I am ready to move on.

What do you recommend as a replacement?

Thanks!
Dan

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Question: is FireFox based on Java in any form?

2008-09-19 Thread Dan Thurman


Just a curious question.

I was wondering if one were to completely remove Java or
it's derivatives, would FF fail to run?  I know there is a Java
support plug in, but in absence of this plugin, does FF use totally
native objects with the OS itself?

Thanks!
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How to obtain the unrar overall progress report?

2008-09-13 Thread Dan Thurman


I am using fedora's native unrar for my python
application - no dll version or whatever else is out there.

I have been trying to figure out how to obtain
unrar's overall progress report for inclusion into my
python code but so far I have not been successful.

I tried to turn off all of the comments except for
the progress report and all I have so far is:

unrar x -ierr +o- $file | sed -e 's/.*\([0-9]\+\)[%]$/\1/

I have tried: -c-, -inul, and many other switches but
none of these switches helped.

There is also a -id[c,d,p,q] command line
option but this does not seem to work and this is
option is not discussed in the man pages.

I noticed that if I add 21 before the pipe,
but this removes the overall progress report
and shows only the results on a per-directory/file
results, which is not what I want.

I have also tried awk but unable to figure out how
to do it.

The problem I have is getting rid of the per
directory/file reports when all I want is the overall
progress report, 1-100%.

Any advice?

Thanks-
Dan

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Yum Updates: Cobbler

2008-09-10 Thread Dan Thurman


During the Yum updates of cobbler, I got:

 Updating   : cobbler   [329/789]
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/cobbler, line 17, in module
   import cobbler.cobbler as app
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/cobbler.py, line 26, 
in module

   import api
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py, line 207
HEAD:cobbler/api.py
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Stopping cobbler daemon: [  OK  ]
Starting cobbler daemon: Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/cobblerd, line 19, in module
   import cobbler.api as bootapi
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py, line 207
HEAD:cobbler/api.py
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[FAILED]
error: %post(cobbler-1.2.0-1.fc9.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

2008-09-10 Thread Dan Thurman

Ted Roche wrote:


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


 I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it

 yum update yum
 let that process
 yum update yum-utils
 let that process
 done


Worked for me, too. Thanks for passing it on, Gerald!


Did not work for me:

# yum update yum
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 243, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 98, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 183, in getOptionsConfig
   disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins))
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 180, in 
_getConfig

   startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 342, in 
doPluginSetup

   plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 151, in 
__init__

   self._importplugins(types)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 193, in 
_importplugins

   self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 226, in 
_loadplugin

   module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
 File /usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py, line 111
   ('committers', 'committer')]
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

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After updating per instructions, does yum break?

2008-09-10 Thread Dan Thurman


I followed the instructions per:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues

So the steps were for me:

1) Get the Key:
   a) F8: 
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/8/6.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-8-6.transition.noarch.rpm


   b) F9: 
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/9/5.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch.rpm


2) rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-8-and-9
3) yum --skip-broken update
4) Wait until the yum package is fixed and added to the repository, then:
   a) yum update yum
   b) yum update yum-utils

Is this right?

But this looks like the chicken/egg problem...  yum is definitely
broken after updates even if if the --skip-broken option is selected
such as below:

# yum --skip-broken list
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 243, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 98, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 183, in getOptionsConfig
   disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins))
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 180, in 
_getConfig

   startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 342, in 
doPluginSetup

   plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 151, in 
__init__

   self._importplugins(types)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 193, in 
_importplugins

   self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 226, in 
_loadplugin

   module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
 File /usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py, line 111
   ('committers', 'committer')]
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

So, the question is - how do I fix this problem?

Dan

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F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba

2008-09-07 Thread Dan Thurman


I guess I need a little direction here.

I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed
that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts
to my desktop.  Ok, well, I did try to add  this partition to the
fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that
there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and
let the FUSE do it's job.

But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition
and this is where I am perplexed.

Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1
directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 40777,
is set to fuse_t,  and it seems that there is no possible way for me to
chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything
with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux reports
that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a samba
boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to
samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted users.

I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems that
smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the results
are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba
tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable  
writable

but this did not seem to work either.

I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let FUSE
take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab.

So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these NTFS
file-systems?

Thanks!
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Re: [SOLVED] F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba

2008-09-07 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

I guess I need a little direction here.

I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed
that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts
to my desktop.  Ok, well, I did try to add  this partition to the
fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that
there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and
let the FUSE do it's job.

But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition
and this is where I am perplexed.

Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1
directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 40777,
is set to fuse_t,  and it seems that there is no possible way for me to
chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything
with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux reports
that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a 
samba

boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to
samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted 
users.


I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems that
smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the results
are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba
tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable 
writable
but this did not seem to work either.

I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let 
FUSE

take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab.

So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these 
NTFS

file-systems?


Geez, with a little digging, I finally found out how to do it from:
http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-export-samba-share-td18570296.html

Solution: setsebool -P samba_share_fusefs 1

and you are done!  Amazing!

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Re: [SOLVED] F9: Sharing local NTFS file-systems under Samba

2008-09-07 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 I guess I need a little direction here.

 I have created an NTFS partition under F9, and noticed
 that this partition upon login automatically FUSE mounts
 to my desktop.  Ok, well, I did try to add  this partition to the
 fstab. this partition to my /wApp1 directory but found that
 there were conflicts in doing so - so I gave up at one point and
 let the FUSE do it's job.

 But then later, I decided I wanted to samba-share this partition
 and this is where I am perplexed.

 Although, I can use Nautilus to access/change these files in the wApp1
 directories, but I also noticed that all directories and files are 
40777,

 is set to fuse_t,  and it seems that there is no possible way for me to
 chcon, chown, chmod anything therein in order to samba share anything
 with any granularity (usr, group, other) and noticed that selinux 
reports

 that these dir/files are RO, cannot be shared, but that I can issue a
 samba
 boolean to share RO files which is not what I want to do - that is - to
 samba-group share the dir/files as writeable and to a list of trusted
 users.

 I have added trusted users to /etc/samba/smbuser file - but it seems 
that
 smbpasswd -a user has no effect (at least I cannot see where the 
results

 are saved, if at all) and I did use the System-Administration-Samba
 tool to share the specific directories, with selected users, visable 
 writable
 but this did not seem to work either.

 I am not sure if I should let FUSE do it's work or to somehow not let
 FUSE
 take over and add the NTFS file-system to fstab.

 So, how should one go about properly setting up samba-shares of these
 NTFS
 file-systems?

Geez, with a little digging, I finally found out how to do it from:
http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-export-samba-share-td18570296.html

Solution: setsebool -P samba_share_fusefs 1

and you are done!  Amazing!


Hmm...  I wonder - if I or anyone else is not logged in, does that mean
my wApp1 is not fuse mounted and if so,  will the samba share fail?

Dan

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F9: Found certain files/directories in /

2008-09-03 Thread Dan Thurman


I found:
/%1 (file)
/Desktop
/.config
/.kde
in  the root directory.  Is this normal?

Are these safe to delete?

Thanks!
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Re: F9: Adobe Flash: It works, it does not work - repeatingsyndrome.

2008-09-03 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 15:50 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 I have tried in vain to get Adobe's Flash to work in FF. It does
 not matter how many times I have tried installing, un-installing
 the adobe flash package - it says it was installed successfully.

 The problem so it appears, is flash works sometimes and sometimes
 it does not.  I think this may be because the default flash plugin is
 actually swfdec Yes, I have libflashsupport installed as well.

 Under FireFox, you can try to change the swf default under
 'Preferences' - however - I am clueless as how to override
 swfdec and force the default to be Adobe's Flash - attempts
 to try to do so only opens up a File/Directory Dialog box
 and I am clueless as to where/what directory/file needs to
 be loaded - I thought it was something of a library like:

 /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so

 but that does not seem to work.

 Btw: I have no problems with F8 - works like a charm and it
 does not use swfdec - but then again - that was with FF v2.0.x

don't have both installed - remove swfdec


done!


run nspluginwrapper installer...


Sorry for being dense - but I cannot run 'nspluginwrapper'
What is the command for doing that or precisely, what do I need
to do here?


mozilla-plugin-config -i

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Re: F9: Adobe Flash: It works, it does not work - repeatingsyndrome.

2008-09-03 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


Craig White wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 15:50 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
  I have tried in vain to get Adobe's Flash to work in FF. It does
  not matter how many times I have tried installing, un-installing
  the adobe flash package - it says it was installed successfully.
 
  The problem so it appears, is flash works sometimes and sometimes
  it does not.  I think this may be because the default flash plugin is
  actually swfdec Yes, I have libflashsupport installed as well.
 
  Under FireFox, you can try to change the swf default under
  'Preferences' - however - I am clueless as how to override
  swfdec and force the default to be Adobe's Flash - attempts
  to try to do so only opens up a File/Directory Dialog box
  and I am clueless as to where/what directory/file needs to
  be loaded - I thought it was something of a library like:
 
  /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
 
  but that does not seem to work.
 
  Btw: I have no problems with F8 - works like a charm and it
  does not use swfdec - but then again - that was with FF v2.0.x
 
 don't have both installed - remove swfdec

done!

 run nspluginwrapper installer...

Sorry for being dense - but I cannot run 'nspluginwrapper'
What is the command for doing that or precisely, what do I need
to do here?

 mozilla-plugin-config -i

 Craig


Well, I tried:

1) yum update nspluginwrapper
Package nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-5.fc9.i386 already installed and latest 
version

Nothing to do

2) mozilla-plugin-config -i
NPP_GetValue()
*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so: 
undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0


So there seems to be a problem?

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A simple bash case question...

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Thurman


I am trying to figure out how to do the following:

case $foo in

   one || two)
  process_One_Two ;;
   three)
  process_Three ;;
   four || five)
  process_Four_Five ;;
   *) echo Nothing to process ;;
esac

The problem I am having is getting one || Two
or four || five to work - so as to consolidate
two or more strings per case statement line,
otherwise I would have code duplication.

Any advice?

Thanks!
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Re: A simple bash case question...

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Thurman

Dave Ihnat wrote:


On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 I am trying to figure out how to do the following:
 ...
 Any advice?

Get rid of the ||, just use |.


Yup!  That worked!
Thanks!

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When will Yum updates be working again?

2008-09-01 Thread Dan Thurman


As the subject says... when?

Dan

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Re: When will Yum updates be working again?

2008-09-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 14:07 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 As the subject says... when?

Have you checked the archives of the last few days, where this question
has been asked and answered several times?


Well, sort of.  I get emails sent to my email server and I have tried
to catch everything going by assuming that I get all the email
deliveries.

The last time I asked, I was given was a link summarizing Fedora's
decision on  how they were going to handle this issue - but there was
nothing about a time-table or ETA as far I can tell, which is why I was
asking.  I read other postings but again, I did not catch anything of an
ETA and I may have missed it.

Does anyone have any idea when we can expect updates to be
flowing again?

Thanks!
Dan

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DVD Movie players...

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Thurman


Is there a DVD movie player that includes support
for full menus, esp. one that allows me to choose the
language subtitles since I am hard-of-hearing?  Seems
totem does not allow me to choose the wide/full screen
support as well? It seems to look only at titles 1-X for
which one has to manually select and run, one at a time
and seems to be a limited player, unless there is add-on
support or something if it is supported?

Thanks!
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Re: [SOLVED] DVD Movie players...

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Thurman

Reuben Budiardja wrote:


On Friday 29 August 2008 12:12, Dan Thurman wrote:
 Is there a DVD movie player that includes support
 for full menus, esp. one that allows me to choose the
 language subtitles since I am hard-of-hearing?  Seems
 totem does not allow me to choose the wide/full screen
 support as well? It seems to look only at titles 1-X for
 which one has to manually select and run, one at a time
 and seems to be a limited player, unless there is add-on
 support or something if it is supported?

 Thanks!
 Dan

Kaffeine, Xine, or VLC should be able to do all that, and they are in the
repository. You may also want to grab the related packages for the 
non-free

version in Livna or other 3rd-party repository.

TL


Thanks to all who responded!
VLC does what I want!

Dan

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Where do I get the fedora yum GPG key?

2008-08-28 Thread Dan Thurman

I have done it but cannot remember how to get the Fedora GPG key.

Can someone point the way, please?

Thanks!
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Re: Where do I get the fedora yum GPG key?

2008-08-28 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 16:48 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 I have done it but cannot remember how to get the Fedora GPG key.

 Can someone point the way, please?

ls -l /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/

Craig

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# ls -l /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/
total 32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1910 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1726 2007-03-01 10:00 RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1706 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-beta
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1519 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1105 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1076 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1422 2008-05-12 03:00 RPM-GPG-KEY-livna
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1232 2008-05-06 10:16 RPM-GPG-KEY-rawhide


Ok, but do I need to get the new keys to overwrite the old key so that
my updates will work or do I have to do anything at all and assume
this is done automagically via yum update ?

Thanks!
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Amarok, Songbird, and other similar players...

2008-08-27 Thread Dan Thurman


This is a question that has been bugging me for awhile and
countless of hours trying to fix song tags that seems to be
overwritten, or so it seems.

From what I can tell, it *seems* to me that these players
might be using their own database to write over the tags
because no matter what I try via EasyTag, I could never get
these players to incorporate these updates into their database
or song lists.

Am I correctly assuming these players, when started for the
first time collects file tags, adds these tags into their database/list
and from then on enforces these tags downward and never
checks for updated tags to be incorporated as updates into the
database/list? It seems there is no mechanism to blow away these
player database (at least not from their menu options) other than to
either locate the database and delete them or to completely remove
and re-install the player application?

Many times these player databases/list are completely outdated and
appears in the list or is completely wrong as far as the way I want
them to appear.

It seems that these players are designed to be database/list centric?
Songbird on the other hand appears to keep it's own database/list
updates with metadata but does not actually update file tags
because I would edit and update the metadata then check the file's
song-tags and there would be no changes?

What do you do to resolve these issues?

Thanks in kind,
Dan

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Re: F8/F9 Multiboot question

2008-08-05 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


Anne Wilson wrote:

 On Monday 04 August 2008 18:27:56 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 
  Never mind!  I got myself out of the problem!
 
 How?  Someone will see this in the archives and will want to know the
 answer :-)

 Anne

ok, fair enough!

I followed Tim's instructions, but did this with Fedora-Live CD:

1) Boot in Fedora-Live
+ Open Shell Terminal Window

2) fdisk -l

*** note!!! ***
+ Disk drives are DIFFERENT, not necessarily the same as when booted
in Fedora!

For example, when you boot in Fedora (the real thing), the 3
disks for
me it was:
/dev/sda - PATA
/dev/sdb - SATA-1
/dev/sdc - SATA-2

In Fedora-Live, is displayed as:
/dev/sdb (PATA)
/dev/sdc (SATA-2)
/dev/sdd (SATA-1)

3) grub

a) find /grub/stage1
In my case, it showed:
(hd1,0) - SATA-2 - boot-sys - the next 2 partitions are the NEW
drive I am trying to construct per Tim's instructions
(hd1,1) - SATA-2 - boot-f8
(hd1,2) - SATA-2 - boot-f9
(hd2,2) - SATA-1 - boot-f8 - this is my original untouched
drive where I started originally. This was the grub I popped

b) setup (hd2)
(grub has installed the MBR and fixed my original drive problem
- output was similar to Tim's instructions)

c) quit
d) Reboot - I was able to get my original drive back up and running!)

The new drive I am still working on is:

SATA-2 (750GB)
==
*** Note *** Actual sizes are not exact!
/dev/sdc1 - boot-sys (100MB)
/dev/sdc2 - f8-boot   (100MB)
/dev/sdc3 - f9-boot   (100MB)
/dev/sdc4 - Extended Partition
/dev/sdc5 - f8-root(175GB)
/dev/sdc6 - f9-root(175GB)
/dev/sdc7 - f-App1(351GB)
/dev/sdc8 - swap(~5GB) (I have 2GB RAM)


I have found in 3b, above: setup (hd2), it is the same as if
you used setup (hd2.0).  I have found that once you have the
partitions for 3 boot directories, boot-sys, boot-f8, and boot-f9,
you can either copy over the existing f8 and/or f9 boot partitions
into the new respective locations (as I did),  and as for the boot-sys
partition, I simply copied over my f8 boot partition, and stripped
everything above grub directory.

While you are at it, you can also copy over your root-f8 and root-f9
files into the root-f8 and root-f9 partitions as well.  How you get
these copied over successfully has mixed results (cp -a, tar, GParted),
but if you rather use a true clone program, try CloneZilla

As a tool for tracking/verification, in each of the 3 partitions,
I created bread-crumbs as empty files: BOOT-SYS, BOOT-F8, BOOT-F9 in
each of the respective directories so that I can ensure that these
directories are easily identifiable and not mistaken for something else
along the way.

At this point, I have also found that I needed to run grub setup on each
of these 3 boot partitions; similar to above instructions:

Boot up the system, if you cannot get into a grub-display at boot-time,
you may need to boot in Fedora-Live or Rescue CD.  If you can get a
grub splash-screen at bootup (w/o CDs), the simply hit 'c' for command.

# grub
grub find /grub/stage1  (note where your 3 partitions are)
 (hd0.0)   -- boot-sys  (/dev/sdb1)
 (hd0,1)   -- boot-f8   (/dev/sdb2)
 (hd0,2)   -- boot-f9   (/dev/sdb3)
 (hd1,2)

NOTE!  Grub saw things differently again.  I am assuming that the appearance
of this new order, may have to do with the device.maps that I had before 
from
the original f8 installation, and for whatever the reasons, it pays to 
make SURE

you are in sync with what grub actually reports.

Remember about leaving breadcrumbs earlier?  If you are not sure which
drive is which, you can try searching in this way:

grub find BOOT-SYS
 (hd0.0)
grub find BOOT-F8
 (hd0.1)
grub find BOOT-F9
 (hd0.2)

Note: Now we can go ahead to create grub-bootable partitions
 for each of the 3 partitions we created earlier:

grub root  (hd0,0)
grub setup (hd0,0)
results are shown here

grub root  (hd0,1)
grub setup (hd0,1)
results are shown here

grub root  (hd0,2)
grub setup (hd0,2)
results are shown here

grub quit


Now it is time to edit the grub.conf files for each of the 3 partitions.

=[boot.sys]
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,0)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda5
#  initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
#hiddenmenu
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
default=saved
timeout=5

title Fedora 8 SDB1
   rootnoverify (hd0,1)
   chainloader +1
   savedefault
title Fedora 9
   rootnoverify (hd0,2)
   chainloader +1
   savedefault
title Windows 2000
   rootnoverify (hd1,0)
   chainloader +1
   savedefault
title Windows XP
  

F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?

2008-08-01 Thread Dan Thurman


I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable
to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0.

I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but
when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash.  Why is it
that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe?  And
yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and
selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec
still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed
but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported.

Thanks-
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Re: F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?

2008-08-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:


Dan Thurman wrote:

 I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable
 to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0.

 I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but
 when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash.  Why is it
 that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe?  And
 yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and
 selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec
 still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed
 but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported.

Is your F9 x86_64 or i386?


i386 (686)

Dan

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Re: F9: How to replace 'swfdec' with Adobe's Flash Player?

2008-08-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:


Dan Thurman wrote:
 Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

 Dan Thurman wrote:
 
  I got the swf player to work in F8 but I am unable
  to get the player to work in F9 Firefox 3.0.
 
  I noticed that the underlying player is swfdec 0.6.0, but
  when I checked on F8, it is adobe's Flash.  Why is it
  that I cannot seem to replace swfdec for adobe?  And
  yes, I tried Firefox's edit-preferences-applications and
  selected 'Shockwave Flash' but nothing happened - swfdec
  still appears. And of course, the adobe's flash is installed
  but not macromedia's shockwave, which is not supported.

 Is your F9 x86_64 or i386?

 i386 (686)

What does your firefox about:plugins page say about which flash plugin
is being used?



F8: Firefox v2.0.xxx

Shockwave Flash

   File name: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
   Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Yes


F9: Firefox v3.0.xxx

Shockwave Flash

   File name: nswrapper_32_32.libswfdecmozilla.so
   Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100

MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Adobe Flash movie   swf Yes
application/futuresplashFutureSplash movie  spl Yes



So -- the wierd thing is, that in F8, the Adobe Flash player works for all
swf files within the browser, even though it says: Shockwave Flash,
but in F9, even though it says Adobe Flash movie, it resorts to using
swfdec 0.6.0. !

I have no clue why Firefox v3.0 does not seem to recognize adobe flash
and I have tried several times to reset the application within FF 3.0 to
no avail.

Dan

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Need help with getopts

2008-07-21 Thread Dan Thurman


I have: while getopts achrv:d:e opt

What I wanted was single flags as:

-a
-c
-h
-r
-v

in any order as well as

-d directory
-e encodeType

in any order as well.

But the above use of `:' is not doing what I want.

What am I doing wrong, please?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Need help with getopts

2008-07-21 Thread Dan Thurman

Carl D. Roth wrote:


On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:13:32 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:

 I have: while getopts achrv:d:e opt

 What I wanted was single flags as:

 -a
 -c
 -h
 -r
 -v

 in any order as well as

 -d directory
 -e encodeType

 in any order as well.

 But the above use of `:' is not doing what I want.

 What am I doing wrong, please?

 Thanks!
 Dan

Your syntax is wrong; change

  achrv:d:e

to

  achrvd:e:


Thanks!
Dan

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F9: List of packages that has missing geko-libs v1.9

2008-07-19 Thread Dan Thurman


I get notifications constantly asking to update
the following list.  Unfortunately, there is a
conflict and it is saying:

Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package X
where X is the following:

devhelp
emerald
epiphany
epiphany-extensions
firefox
gnomesword
xulrunner
xulrunner-devel
yelp

The important one for me is firefox.

So what do I need to do to get these packages installed?

Thanks!
Dan

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F9: Using dd to clone a drive...

2008-07-18 Thread Dan Thurman


I used dd off the Gnome Live CD, so that neither
drives were mounted nor active. Next I proceeded
to use dd as follows:

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb

It took approx. 6 hours to copy over 450GB of data.

I was successful at getting getting Grub to come up, was
able to select XP and Vista partitions and these booted up
just fine.  Great!  I checked everything and these worked
fine as far as I can tell.  But when I tried to boot Fedora 9,
there was a whole raft of errors spewed out, from Stale NFS
errors, missing/corrupted/perm problems with  /var/run,
/var/bin/id, I was not able to tell what the problem and the
list is endless.  In short, I was not able to boot at all.

I could however boot into single user (with lots of errors)
but was not really sure what to do next.  I tried fsck but there
was a warning that I could severely corrupt the / partition,
so I declined to follow through with it.

Next, I shutdown the system, rebooted with the original drive
with the clone added as secondary drive, and brought up GParted
and took a look at the cloned drive's partition and everything appears
fine except the / partition, it appears with a black border, has a warning
exclaimation icon, and the partition is marked as Unknown.

Can someone give me some guidance as to post-followup to dd, or
perhaps a repair of / partition, or to simply download Gparted-Live
and make a partition to partition copy of / (which I am downloading
as I write up this post)?

Curiously, why is it that dd works for XP/Vista and not Fedora-9?

Thanks!
Dan

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F9: tune2fs -u random device

2008-07-17 Thread Dan Thurman


Hmm...  does this only work with Linux ext2/3?  What about other
file systems such as NTFS?  What is the equivalent for setting
NTFS file systems?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: F9: tune2fs -u random device

2008-07-17 Thread Dan Thurman

Mark Haney wrote:


Dan Thurman wrote:
 Mark Haney wrote:

 Dan Thurman wrote:
 
  Hmm...  does this only work with Linux ext2/3?  What about other
  file systems such as NTFS?  What is the equivalent for setting
  NTFS file systems?
 
  Thanks!
  Dan
 

 Far as I know this is only for ext2/3 (maybe 4 at some point?).  Other
 filesystems have similar options for them, but I don't think 
there's one

 for NTFS.  And persionally, even if there were, I wouldn't go about
 tinkering with those options in linux anyway.  Why would you want 
to do

 that?

 Because when you clone a disk, the 2nd drive is an exact
 duplicate of the cloned drive which includes among other
 things, the UUID, Labels, and so on.  So I want to ensure
 that the cloned drive has different UUID's but with the labels
 intact to ensure that they do not conflict with one another
 should both drives remain connected to the same system.
 Otherwise you will not know which drive is being mounted
 on the file system, which is the main purpose of the UUIDs.

 Thanks!
 Dan


I am aware of all that.  The point is, if I need to clone a drive, I
tend not to have NTFS on it for the very reason that NTFS is way too
sensitive to changes.  If I do need to clone it, it's not to stay
connected to the system, it's to be used either as a backup, or to be
used in another system altogether.  This eliminates the need for that.

Regardless, I wouldn't personally use anything like tune2fs-equivalent
on an NTFS partition unless it's in Windows.  Too many things can go
wrong that way.


Ok, point taken!  Do you know if there is such a beast in windoes that can
change the UUID safely?  You see, if my daughter/updates screws up her drive
at least I can bring in the cloned copy and restore it albeit losing 
whatever was

added after the clone?

Thanks!
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Re: F9: Mounting of drives

2008-07-17 Thread Dan Thurman

Tim wrote:


On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:48 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
 Yes, I did.  I tried all 7 Sata ports and they all behaved the same
 way.  This blew me away.  Perhaps Sata ports have no unique
 position identifier, such as I am Sata port #1, ... ?

On someone else's PC, I noticed that there did seem to be some order to
which port was first.  But I wonder if your problem is down to something
like:

One of the drives is ready first (Fedora 9 seems quite slow at scanning
devices, and spews out numerous errors in the meantime - at least it's
slow to boot up, and theres lots of dev errors when you plug in USB
drives post-boot).

One of the drive partitions is set up to be bootable and the other
not, and that affecting which is first.

Ok, I have to retract what I said about testing all 7 sata ports.  It 
turns out
that there is precedence on which port is recognized first.  I have 
mis-tested
this.  I am able to find the first sata port on my Intel board and it 
does keep

my primary drive as /dev/sda and my cloned drive as /dev/sdb.  I am so
happy now!

Now, the problem I have is the cloned drive was not successful with the
dd command.  It failed to create the swap partition and it failed to 
faithfully

create the / partition.

So it looks like I will have to discover a way to copy clone the 
partition of

/.  How can I do this safely?  cp -a?

What I do not want to do is to copy over from /, the devices for example
so what is the best method for copying over the partitions esp. that of / ?

I think /boot is not a problem with cp -a but I have a feeling / is 
significant.


Please advise?

Thanks!
Dan

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