Re: Common Lisp apps in Fedora
Kevin Kofler: Ouch, we weren't aware of all these issues when we approved common-lisp- controller in FESCo. :-( It was sold to us as something great and working perfectly. I wasn't aware that it didn't actually work at all at this time and I strongly doubt the rest of FESCo was either. It makes no sense to have a packaging guideline mandate using something which doesn't work. Jerry James: The alternative to common-lisp-controller, for libraries at least, is to have lots of subpackages:... I can see why Debian went with common-lisp-controller It helps keep insanity at bay. Common-lisp-controller would probably be very helpful for libraries if it *did* work. But it appears that mandating it was premature. Jerry James: But I think we need to have an escape clause for applications, and also for libraries that take a significant amount of time/space to compile. No escape clause needed for applications. The 2nd sentence of: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Lisp This document does not describe conventions and customs for application programs that are written in Common Lisp. I think it should be backed down until it's *really* fixed (awakening upstream as necessary). --- David A. Wheeler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets
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As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a
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Is anybody out there making use of the following targets?
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unused-patches
unused-fedora-patches
If so, please reply to which one, and in what scenario you use those
targets. Thanks!
I was using 'unused-patches' until the packaging guidelines had us change
Patch lines to use %{name} if that applied. The unused-patches target would
be helpful if it could expand RPM macros.
That may have changed now. I haven't checked it in a while.
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Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:17:45PM +, Zing wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:58:11 +0100, David Tardon wrote: gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows strict thanks for that... To be useful - when that's set, new windows never take focus away from a window that looks like a terminal window. (This is assuming the above opens a new window. If it changes an existing window, then focus_new_windows won't affect the behavior.) Doesn't work. I set this, then started gedit from gnome-terminal. The gedit window got focus. Are you sure you didn't have another gedit window open. It seems to work as Owen mentioned (only if you don't have an existing window open)... it's so close to what I needed, unfortunately I always keep a browser open in the background. Definitely not, I use gedit as a test application only. But I see what's the problem now--it only works from freshly started terminal. So all the terminals that were running at the moment I set focus_new_windows to strict didn't pick that setting and continue to open new windows focused. Isn't that a bug in gnome-terminal (or metacity)? D. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TV over the internet
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:57 PM, john wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote: Personally, I just download the few shows that I want to watch. They're all on the net. Whoops, I just confessed to a crime on a public forum. Most are now available in some legal form, pretend that's what you meant. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EMEA Ambassadors talking about TV ads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAktF8eoACgkQkZOYj+cNI1fvuQCgh3MTO2xddJjD1hIM/gga4TPb 5F4AnAj45jY1USdrp0ENz+kYz5QyFD+K =xaF6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Nonprofits are generally challenged in arranging mass media advertising; the usual approach is to find an ad agency which will work pro bono, and broadcasters willing to donate air time / publishers willing to donate print ad space. FWIW I talked about these issues here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-March/000681.html Sean I came across some ideas for promoting Amateur Radio events on an ARRL magazine. What the suggested is that the organization at large produce some shorts videos about what they do, in the most generic way. They already have some material.[0] They leave some spaces where you can add up your specific information like dates of events and contact data of the nearest group. Then you can go to a local TV station and ask as a non-profit if the have some time avaliable. Usually they fill they lack of pay advertisements promoting their schedule (upcoming programs). They recommend that the material has to be exactly timed ... if you say 20 seconds should be that and not roughly 20 seconds. So the basic idea is to have ready material professional made, make room for localization and then locally negotiated with TV stations. This needs people skills to find a friend on the TV station to endorse this non-profit announce. It only will work if this more an announcement for a specific event that will justify the non-profit cause. If it looks like advertisement they will be trying to charge for it. This looks like a joint venture for marketing producing and ambassadors distributing. Sound fun to recycle ideas and adapt them to work for us. [0] http://www.hello-radio.org/ -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 We run into the problem that Fedora is not a non-profit - as a matter of fact, it doesn't really exist. The situation in EMEA is a bit different, with the existence of Fedora EMEA e.V. but still. BTW, I think it'd be awesome to promote FEL in QST. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Common Lisp apps in Fedora
On 01/04/2010 05:29 PM, Jerry James wrote: One of the first issues we'll have to face is the use of common-lisp-controller. First, it postpones compilation to the first time the application is executed by a particular Common Lisp engine. For the application I packaged, PVS [2], compilation takes a significant amount of time. This approach may be fine for small libraries and applications, but will it really scale up to the some of the big applications people want to package? No. That'd be rediculous; big CL applications can take a LONG time to compile, and compilation usually requires lots of memory (even if the final application doesn't). Fedora has lots of applications written in many other compiled languages like C and C++, and they aren't distributed *only* as source code. Instead, people expect that when they download the binary they'll get a pre-compiled, ready-to-go version. I think the same should be true for big Common Lisp (CL) applications. If you want a distribution that requires you to recompile *everything* from scratch, go to Gentoo or similar. There should be pre-compiled versions of large CL applications, as maxima-sbcl is right now and the upcoming pvs-sbcl will be. Alexander Kahl: Are you (or is anyone else here) interested in founding a Common Lisp SIG? I'm interested. --- David A. Wheeler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.
gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows strict To be useful - when that's set, new windows never take focus away from a window that looks like a terminal window. (This is assuming the above opens a new window. If it changes an existing window, then focus_new_windows won't affect the behavior.) Doesn't work. I set this, then started gedit from gnome-terminal. The gedit window got focus. D. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: What happens with cvs.fedora.redhat.com
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 08:40 +0100, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote: What happens with cvs.fedora.redhat.com? If it is shutdown permanently where I can get current fedora kernel sources? cvs.fedoraproject.org -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com Intel Corporation ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit? SOLVED
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote: This is a false positive. rkhunter gave me so many false positives I stopped using it. This is probably as much (or more) a comment on my character as it is on the value of rkhunter. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 11:50 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: david walcroft wrote: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Did you enable compositing/desktop-effects ? If so, disable by editing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc in [Compositing] section, Enabled=false -- Rex This is my kwinrc [$Version] update_info=kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off [Desktops] Name_1= Name_2= Name_3= Name_4= Number=4 david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 01:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 Mail Listsli...@sapience.com: Â Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the partition. Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4. -c Yes I have a separate partition for /home and do not format during an install.I think it must be time to format and reinstall /home from a backup. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 12:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au: No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? -c I'll try it next time around. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 02:37 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem - installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the 'real' driver jumps in and craps out. I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever). I checked the /var/log/X* and nothing seemed unusual. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kde problems
Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun from my backup and logout/login with no result. An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system. I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be appreciated. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 09:37 AM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Dying hard drive? Bad installation media? -c No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Determining Packages for a working BCM4311 Wireless Card
Hi Randy, I have a laptop with a working bcm4311 wireless adaptor, but I don't know which packages were installed to get it working. Any ideas on how to determine this? Fedora 11. I think following packages are involved (on F12): broadcom-wl-5.10.91.9.3-1.fc12.noarch kmod-wl-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64-5.10.91.9.3-3.fc12.11.x86_64 kmod-wl-5.10.91.9.3-3.fc12.11.x86_64 So it would be a matter to translate to your architecure, kernel version and fedora version to know which are the correct ones. To be sure about dependencies, please check (without quotes) with yum deplist package_name Regards, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Unable To Install In Graphic Mode
Attempting to install fedora 12, I get a message that there is not enough memory to install in graphic mode and it reverts to a text mode and installs some prepackaged set of applications. It is a system with 384 megabytes of memory and the graphic installer worked with fedora 11. How much memory does the graphic installer need and/or is there another way I can get to select a complete set of packages with the text based installer? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kde problems
I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun from my backup and logout/login with no result. An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system. I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be appreciated. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GRUB2?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Eric Brunson brun...@brunson.com wrote: Is it in the roadmap to move from GRUB Legacy to GRUB2? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2 Ubuntu uses grub2 already. I'm sure it's got some great new features, but for my purposes, it's a bit less convenient. I often edit my grub.conf one one partition when I'm booted to another partition (I use chainloading a lot). If I understand it correctly, with grub2, you have to run a command after editing the configuration file to properly create another configuration file. I guess it's no big deal, but it takes some getting used to. Cheers David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of virtual desktops?
On 27/12/09 22:42, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:20:06 -0500 (EST), Robert wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... Right click over the workspaces in the lower right corner and pick Preferences. wow ... that just blew away all of my desktops and quit unexpectedly. Without triggering ABRT? ABRT triggered for me. - the workspace switcher disappeared from my preferred location (top near-left) - open windows no longer have icon/name tabs (?window list) - the preferences dialog did not get displayed before ABRT showed - submitted and autoduped as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539343 ps there is a gnome-panel in updates-testing that I'm about to try with. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Gordon Charrick gordo...@cox.net wrote: that need to be done regularly, but haven't found any Linux apps that can handle this task. Anyone have any Maybe just a web app, like gcal? Not really sure what you want. I have mine email me about stuff that needs to happen on a particular day, harder to deal with stuff that could happen in a range of days. Maybe send a reminder on the last day? That's how I deal with my mortgage payment. Is this a bit OT? best, Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Advanced routing, 2ISP
Guys, please I have no luck with this. I have 2 ISPS. I have working configuration with ip route a 2 routing tables in a way, that matching local subnet uses second provider while all the others are using the first one - main. The main problem I am having is, that I am unable to reach my router via public ip address of that second ISP. This is my default routing table [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# ip route show table main 194.228.196.39 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 90.178.76.117 10.123.50.101 dev ppp2 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.50.1 10.123.50.100 dev ppp1 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.50.1 213.194.242.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 213.194.242.198 10.123.20.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.20.1 10.123.10.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.10.11 10.123.11.0/24 dev eth0.8 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.11.1 10.123.42.0/24 dev eth0.5 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.42.1 10.123.123.0/24 dev eth0.7 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.123.1 10.123.40.0/24 dev eth0.4 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.40.1 10.123.30.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.30.1 10.123.44.0/24 dev eth0.6 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.44.1 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0.8 scope link default via 213.194.242.1 dev eth1 As you can see , my default provider has gateway 213.192.252.1 , connected via eth1 . This works fine for me. Second configuration is ip rule based, when subnet 10.123.123.0/24 goes to routing table adsl [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# ip rule show 0: from all lookup 255 32764: from all fwmark 0x1 lookup adsl-vpn 32765: from 10.123.123.0/24 lookup adsl 32766: from all lookup main 32767: from all lookup default [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# ip route show table adsl 194.228.196.39 dev ppp0 scope link src 90.178.76.117 10.123.123.0/24 dev eth0.7 scope link src 10.123.123.1 default via 194.228.196.39 dev ppp0 As you can see in this case, all trafic goes via ppp0 (my second internet provider connected via ppp0 - adsl ppoe). This works fine. What I want to achieve is, now being able to ping /access/whatever to my server via second public IP address of my adsl provider (90.178.76.117). To achieve this i have added iptables rule, which marks all packets comming via ppp0 (iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i ppp0 -j MARK --set-mark 0x1). And created another routing table named adsl-vpn [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# ip route show table adsl-vpn 194.228.196.39 dev ppp0 scope link src 90.178.76.117 10.123.10.0/24 dev eth0 scope link src 10.123.10.11 default via 194.228.196.39 dev ppp0 Now i have added ip rule, which for all packets marked as 1 , which are the ones which came trough ppp0 = my second ISP, uses table adsl-vpn [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# ip rule show 0: from all lookup 255 32764: from all fwmark 0x1 lookup adsl-vpn --- this one 32765: from 10.123.123.0/24 lookup adsl 32766: from all lookup main 32767: from all lookup default Well, now I should be able definitely to ping my server from outside, but it does not works Pinging from windows machine in outside world : C:\Users\bossping 90.178.76.117 Pinging 90.178.76.117 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 90.178.76.117: Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 0, Lost = 3 (100% loss), If i will tcpdump my ppp0 interface on my router I see the ICMP echo requests are comming [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# tcpdump -i ppp0 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on ppp0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 96 bytes 09:08:27.743789 IP adsl-dyn118.78-98-105.t-com.sk gw2.cz.polarion.com: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 72, length 40 But, echo responses from my server NOT, instead of that, responses are comming out of eth1 interface , which is my first ISP! [r...@sx1 cron.hourly]# tcpdump -i eth1 |grep ICMP tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on eth1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 09:09:30.451706 IP gw2.cz.polarion.com adsl-dyn118.78-98-105.t-com.sk: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 73, length 40 09:09:35.409704 IP gw2.cz.polarion.com adsl-dyn118.78-98-105.t-com.sk: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 74, length 40 This means that either mange is not working or ip rule is not working . Please help, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Better information needed for noobs like me
On 12/23/2009 10:27 PM, birger wrote: I have 3 kids with guitars. I have a keyboard somewhere. I need to learn how to set up the software for them :-D Move over Jonas Brothers... The future is getting ready. You mightn't think so, but even 'beginners' can be good documentation writers. Put down what steps it takes, and how it differs from earlier material (that you reference). The fact that it's written by a beginner could help it to be more easily used by other beginners... The wiki suggestion is good. I think the key is to try to write fairly short, task specific wiki pages, and then some fedoraproject process/tools can convert the individual pages into a spruced up, conforming document. See the Fedora 12 user guide [1], or pdf [2], and the source for that eg [3]. I think that you do need to sign a contributor license agreement before you can edit the fedoraproject wiki. This basically says that you won't post copyrighted material, and that you are making your contribution available as open content. One limitation of using fedora's wiki is you might not be able to directly link to troublesome, out of fedora, sites or packages. A first step would be to develop a table of contents in the wiki, to try to break the installation of audio tools into specific areas, and then break those tasks down into smaller tasks. eg. Working with MIDI and so on. [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/user-guide/f12/en-US/html/sect-User_Guide-Managing_software-Advanced_Yum.html [2] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide_-_Managing_Software David. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...
On 12/22/2009 09:15 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: On Mon 21 December 2009 10:46:51 am Rex Dieter wrote: I'd feel a bit uncomfortable without at least some testing and positive feedback. Once people try testing Rex's updated package, please provide feedback at Rex's link about it, eg what's working, not working about this build ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: OT: howto change Firefox's default print options
On 12/23/2009 07:42 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 11:32 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very annoying feature when trying to print: it insists on providing me with preselected headers and footers. I believe the things you're looking for are in about:config. Look for print.printer_(printer_name).(attribute). The attributes are: print_footercenter print_footerleft print_footerright print_headercenter print_headerleft print_headerright Thanks, Rick. Those are the ones I mucked with. No cigar though. Any changes made there cause the status to change temporarily from default to user_defined. After printing the current document they revert back to default. It appears that there is no way to modify the default behavior and that the only way to get rid of that idiocy is to compile the browser oneself? IMO it makes a lot more sense from a usability perspective to click once to enable something desired than to have to click seven times to disable something undesired. I always felt that Mozilla/Firefox was the standard to which others should aspire but I fear that I may be seeing signs of pig lipstick... :m) IIRC /etc/cups/ was the place to config a printer david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to debug X crashes?
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote: How can I get a sensible traceback out of this? These might help: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/Debugging http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Routing with 2 ISP
Hello Bill, The easiest way to do this is to put all the commands in a shell script you run out of the run levels you want. Not that you can't hack scripts and save iptables, and do wonderful stuff, but a shell script has a nice provision for comments so you can see what you are doing, it does one thing at a time so it's easier to figure out what didn't work, and you can use your favorite version control system to track what you do. Thank you, I have done little research and I have noticed : /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-routes which seems to use route-$IFNAME and rule-$IFNAME file, passing lines to ip command. Maybe I can try a little game in this area. Also, unless you have nothing but machines and people you trust on all these little subnets, have the external ISP connections on NICs not reachable from the private machines without going through your firewall. Having had a 12 years old tell me Oh I read the man page and changed the netmask was a revelation. Unless people are totally trusted and really competent, assume they will (maybe by accident) do something you don't want. Also, packets from the ISP in eth0.8 can physically reach the subnets (unless you have VLAN switches or similar). Yes, I am using VLAN switches, so subnets can not be physically reached when used 255.255.0.0 netmask. Thank you and Best Regards, David Hlacik -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error
I kinda have the same problem I have the Asus UX50v and I found that if you boot it from a different pixel such as 800x600 or what ever then it works. Either that or it's hanging up on a driver install On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Colin Brace c...@lim.nl wrote: Hi all, I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500 (Poulbos) video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of booting. There are no error messages reported in the system log, so I am assuming it is a hardware problem. Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick. It has run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an error message: Tst: 7 Pass: 2 Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB Good: 2aa1e9b Bad: 0aa1e19b Err-Bits: 2000 Count: 1 Chan: This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now justified in returning it to Acer as defective? Thanks, -Colin - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/asus-eee-pc-1101HA%3A-memtest-error-tp26878168p26878168.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- David Lippincott -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Routing with 2 ISP
Hello guys, Sorry to bothering you. I had a small network with one ISP and firewall. eth1 - Is connected to my ISP eth0 + eth0.1 , eth0.2 and etc are my local networks. All my network accesses internet via eth1. My routing table looks like the following : 213.194.242.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 10.123.20.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 10.123.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 10.123.11.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.8 10.123.42.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.5 10.123.123.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.7 10.123.40.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.4 10.123.30.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 10.123.44.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.6 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0.8 0.0.0.0 213.194.242.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 Recently I have added secon provider via ADSL. ADSL modem is connected via eth0.8 . Using adsl-setup I have created ppp interface ppp0. Now I want to achieve the following : Computers from local network range 10.123.123.0/24 (eth0.7) should access internet using my second internet provider via ppp0. I believe that for that I need to use advanced networking and iproute package. I will add the second routing table named adsl and configure routing via ppp0 there. Together with that i need to set in iptables , nat table to masquerade all ips going out via ppp0. I believe I need to use ip command for this. And the finally my questions are : 1) Is there a good tutorial / howto for using iproute on the internet, except of the LARTC.org 2) Can i utilize by tools of Fedora, to have my configuration (with second routing table, using ip ) somehow stored - to be permanent when I will do machine restart? I mean there are networking-scripts /etc/sysconfing/network-scripts which can handle, IP assigment, virtual LANS, aliases even static routes. Can they handle advanced routing as well? Thank you milion times. David Hlacik -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mplayer fc12-86_64
On 12/19/2009 11:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Saturday 19 December 2009 04:01 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 19/12/09 12:26, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 11:28 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote: ?? Isn't it just mplayer-gui that provides gmplayer? One of them is a recompiled mplayer for its own GUI, the other is a front end for mplayer. OK, same name two products. Then where do I find the recompiled mplayer? The recompiled one is the buggy one. Yes so I found out,I discoverd smplayer and it is very stable. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mplayer fc12-86_64
On 12/18/2009 11:11 AM, david walcroft wrote: I have the problem of constant flashing at start up of a movie. I also tried other players (totem) they played videos but no sound,I checked various volume levels and they were all at maximum. david [da...@reddwarf ~]$ mplayer kinema/garfield-tsr_m320.mov Warning unknown option cache-prefill at line 148 MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team This codecs.conf is too old and incompatible with this MPlayer release! at line 6 mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing kinema/garfield-tsr_m320.mov. Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) libavformat file format detected. [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0x2f1be50]multiple edit list entries, a/v desync might occur, patch welcome [lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0 [lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1 [lavf] Video stream found, -vid 2 [lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 3 VIDEO: [SVQ3] 320x172 24bpp 12.000 fps 403.3 kbps (49.2 kbyte/s) Clip info: copyright-eng: �2003 20th Century Fox title: Garfield The Movie copyright: �2003 20th Century Fox title-eng: Garfield The Movie comment: QuickTime 5 version encoded and delivered by www.apple.com/trailers/ comment-eng: QuickTime 5 version encoded and delivered by www.apple.com/trailers/ == Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffsvq3] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Sorenson Video v3 (SVQ3)) == == Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 56.0 kbit/7.94% (ratio: 7000-88200) Selected audio codec: [ffqdm2] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg QDM2 audio) == AO: [alsa] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Starting playback... Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied. VO: [xv] 320x172 = 320x172 Planar YV12 [ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found! A: 26.9 V: 26.8 A-V: 0.032 ct: -0.041 0/ 0 1% 0% 0.8% 2 0 24% Exiting... (Quit) [da...@reddwarf ~]$ Plays well in the terminal but with out sound. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mplayer fc12-86_64
On 12/19/2009 10:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 18 December 2009 21:52:12 david walcroft wrote: On 12/18/2009 11:11 AM, david walcroft wrote: I have the problem of constant flashing at start up of a movie. I also tried other players (totem) they played videos but no sound,I checked various volume levels and they were all at maximum. [da...@reddwarf ~]$ mplayer kinema/garfield-tsr_m320.mov Warning unknown option cache-prefill at line 148 MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team This codecs.conf is too old and incompatible with this MPlayer release! at line 6 What do you have in ~/.mplayer/ directory? It looks like you have some stale old files from previous versions of mplayer? Try renaming the directory and let mplayer create a new directory for itself with default contents. Then try playing the movie again. I did but mplayer didn't write a default file Playing kinema/garfield-tsr_m320.mov. Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) libavformat file format detected. [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0x2f1be50]multiple edit list entries, a/v desync might occur, patch welcome I am not sure if this is because some confused options in the old config files or the movie you're trying to play is badly encoded... Anyway it does warn you that audio and video might get out of sync. I'm not sure if that amounts to flashing you see or not. AO: [alsa] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Don't you have pulseaudio on by default? Try mplayer -ao pulse kinema/garfield-tsr_m320.mov pulse is working as the sound had to be turned way up to hear it, so I then found 'pavocontrol' and it's all under control now. Plays well in the terminal but with out sound. I'm not surprised there is no sound, given that it tries to use alsa instead of pulseaudio. Ok, three recommendations: 1) Try to play some other file. If it is fine, than this particular movie might be broken somehow. 2) Rename ~/.mplayer/ directory to something else. If there are some old/wrong config files and settings in there, they can confuse mplayer. 3) Check your sound configuration. Make sure pulseaudio is running, system sounds and other music can be played without problems etc. Force mplayer to use pulseaudio with -ao pulse option, although it *should* do it by default anyway. Btw, I understood that you were previously trying mplayer outside the terminal, ie. using a GUI. What GUI were you using? I was using mplayer-gui but I deleted it and installed gmplayer,it solved the problem.So now I have a working video system. HTH, :-) Marko Thanks for your help Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: packages requiring me to reboot - semi-off -topic response
On 12/17/2009 08:38 AM, Jon Masters wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:30 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: too. My own preference would be a more discriminating dialog that offers three possibilities: 'do nothing', 'bounce the service/application' and 'reboot'. Yup, +1 Bounce the application would be really cool for eg firefox, thunderbird, that continue to work, but some things sort of don't (like new popups dont open and so forth). In doing so the application would need to return to the identical locations, arrangements that it was bounced from. And really, the above shouldn't be difficult for a computer to do: - have window, pos,size, doc open, caret position and so on, even those pesky web forms with unsubmitted data and so on. Make it part of the freedesktop standards - an app forcibly closed or ?disappears shall reopen as if nothing changed ! (although firefox multi-tab and working out which tab not to reopen after a crash is a good game). Make open documents files etc, be always stored immediately on change with snapshots at each save to disk, few minutes of operation etc. Make it like paper, but actually better, you know: what is written on paper doesn't mysteriously disappear when an update or a power failure, or app crash occurs, nor does it disappear from where you left it. I think the above scenario for user apps would seem to be a reasonable goal. On the other hand, services are not so clear cut. If I'm an external user logged into the web service, filling a form, I don't expect even momentary downtime to cause me to lose information I'm entering, or corrupt a file I have open / editing on network share (though see the works better than paper description). In the first example, would it make sense for the web server to start all new processes using the new updated code, while existing users stay connected to the existing instance, until these timeout/logout and no user's connection is using the old code. When a reboot is really needed, a PK dialog could inform of the need, and ask when that could occur (do at 4:30 am tueday morning) ps: did gnome desktop regain the feature of autologin and rerun apps on desktop capability of pre f-10 ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: fc12 and grubconf
On 12/17/2009 03:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 16 December 2009, david walcroft wrote: I tried to edit grubconf. with vim but when I tried to change 'rhgb' and 'quiet' the cursor would not edit the line as the cursor would not stop at the line,it went either above or below the line. Is this new behavior in fc12 david No David. That is a long line and you need to start on what you call the line about it, and then right arrow till you get there. Thanks Gene,I should have known to try it. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mplayer fc12-86_64
I have the problem of constant flashing at start up of a movie. I also tried other players (totem) they played videos but no sound,I checked various volume levels and they were all at maximum. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fc12 and grubconf
I tried to edit grubconf. with vim but when I tried to change 'rhgb' and 'quiet' the cursor would not edit the line as the cursor would not stop at the line,it went either above or below the line. Is this new behavior in fc12 david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is taking our current dist-cvs and converting it into git format. pkgs/rpms/package/devel is now the git origin/master. All release subdirs have been turned into git branches. History back to F7, as well as the EPEL branches have been converted, from a snapshot of the CVS tree I took last week. Having trouble cloning at the moment, but wanting to take a look at a few packages in git. Are there any plans to import history back to FC-1? Since we're changing version control systems, it's a nice opportunity to get this in to the version control system. Complete history is nice to have on occassion. Currently I only have anonymous git:// access setup, as we play with some options for authenticated writing. If you wish to play around with the repos, you can access it via: git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/package eg if you wished to clone the kernel, you'd type: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/kernel Give it a spin, see what you think. -- David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com Red Hat / Honolulu, HI -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 Boot error message re mount of loop device
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: David wrote: During boot I want to mount an iso9660 file as a loop device. The iso file is on a ext3 partition labelled HUGE_01 which is mounted at /mnt/huge. FILE = /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso MOUNTPOINT = /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD. The mount succeeds. However during boot I get this unnecessary failure message: Mounting local filesystems: [ OK ] [snip] Mounting other filesystems: mount: according to mtab /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is already mounted on /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD as loop [ FAILED ] Enough output is available in the quotes. Mounting local filesystems is in rc.sysinit. Mounting other filesystems is in netfs service script. Thanks to everyone who replied. It pointed me to understanding /etc/rc.d/* better. If I might ask a couple of followup questions: Is the recommended approach to troubleshooting startup scripts to grep on the messages, eg: grep -r 'Mount.*filesystems' /etc/rc.d or is there a better way? Also, I don't see this unnecessary error message in a similar mount situation in F9. Would it be appropriate to file a bugzilla? Against mount? Or against the util-linux-ng package? Thanks for improving my understanding of these things. David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[in the news] [Ambassadors] Fedora proyect on panama news paper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Forwarded message -- From: Alejandro Perez Date: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 4:55 PM Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora proyect on panama news paper To: fedora-ambassadors-list redhat.com Hello everyone, Panamanian ambassadors on an interview on La Prensa, a new paper that cover all country, (that is easy because we are small country). http://mensual.prensa.com/mensual/contenido/2009/12/13/hoy/vivir/2025934.asp This interview open the door of this news paper to cover all events on Panama. - -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list fedora-ambassadors-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAkslZJ8ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1cTDQCeKNJcDRW/dpQ/B3rVbZPF5xor 77MAnjv5m7TQHhAPdGzBCKcrdD7l7N32 =uCos -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS
On 12/13/2009 05:38 AM, Alan Evans wrote: I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like to keep the original OS intact and dual boot. My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that it had the option, but I was terrified to try it. Some would say partitioning is a process that always requires a backup, hence: - create a compressed backup of the new raw disc onto the old disk - run the resize during install - if it all goes foul, you have learnt how to create and use a backup. That said, I haven't seen anything go wrong with gparted / parted, well ever (in my memory, including expanding and shrinking an xp machine original ntfs drives, to fit linux). I quite often do the non-backed up version of messing with partitions on virtual machines without trouble. gparted indicates support for ntfs shrink. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: Gnome Menubar missing on multiple applications,
On 12/13/2009 08:56 AM, Wim ten Have wrote: Many applications that have dependencies towards seem all to have lost their title/window/dressing/top menu's. Could you post a screen shot somewhere (not the list), because I don't think I see what you describe ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 19:39 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 12:38:11PM -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jef, I'll help with istanbul. If anyone else out there is considering doing so, please feel free to team up with me. Other than revelation(which essentially has a dead upstream)...Istanbul is probably the most in need of more development love. Upstream seems to be inactive with no release activity in quite a while. There's a lot of deprecation warnings for some pygtk calls that I would love to clean up in time for F13. And there are a couple of abrt crash tickets being spawned by istanbul.. which maybe traced back to gdk libraries calls if I'm reading the crash dumps correctly. Dave Malcolm was looking at an underlying GTK (or maybe GDK?) bug this weekend at FUDCon if memory serves. I'll also do what I can for existing bugs in my Copious Spare Time(tm). I spent some time trying to figure out bug 543278 but got stumped; need a GTK maintainer's help with this one; pygtk appears to be correctly passing the --sync flag on to GTK fwiw [snip] -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
switching to vts in a virtualbox guest ?
I just installed a fedora 12 i386 guest on a fedora 12 i386 host. The virtualbox manual says the equivalent for ctrl-alt [backspace, delete, F1..F8 is to press the assigned Host Key (by default mine is right ctrl, along with just the bs,delete, F1. That doesn't actually work at the moment. Any ideas what's needed to get to a VT ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Delay measuring
On 12/10/2009 10:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:46 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: for a long time now firefox annoys me now and then with second-long delay when entering a new URL in the URL-bar. When was the first time you noticed that (ie what firefox verasion) ? I am pretty sure this is some kind of system resource it waits for or some other process. Is there any sane way to start an application and measure all those wait syscalls to see what resource causes this delay? Something like a strace wrapper script or so... I hope someone understands what I mean ;) Sounds like you might have the IPv6 issue other people have mentioned. See the list archive for how to turn it off. Could be. But I think it is that firefox now does a JSON lookup on the web, and while it waits for a response to load, it incorrectly pauses the UI. A wireshark packet capture would be enough to test that theory. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB stick
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:30:04PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: I've been trying to install Fedora-12 from a memory stick to which I have transferred the KDE Live CD using livecd-iso-to-disk . The problem is that the ancient machine I am dealing with does not support booting from the USB stick. ... I should say that this is a purely theoretical experiment; I know there are many other ways I could install Fedora-12. But I installed F-12 on several other machines using the USB stick, and it would be useful to know if I could actually update all machines in this way. I wouldn't mind being able to do something similar myself. I have an 8Gb stick with the F12 install iso on it, as a file at the instant, and my dvd writer seems to have turned itself into a write only for dvd's but is still reading cd's ok. However, this asus bios I have not seen a boot from usb option in its boot menu's. Any ideas as to how to proceed? On all my machines that are capable of booting from a USB memory stick the stick shows up as another hard disk. With a bootable stick inserted, reboot and enter the BIOS. Look for hard drive boot priority, or something like that. You may see the memory stick listed, but (stupidly) it's usually the last item listed. If you move it up to first position and save, it'll boot from it. Sadly, after you remove it and reinsert it, the BIOS will usually revert to using it last. (What goes thru the minds of BIOS coders?) If the BIOS fails to list the memory stick as a hard drive, you're out of luck, I'm afraid. Here, for the record, are my notes on how to create a bootable memory stick that's equivalent to the installation DVD. It's a bit more intricate than you've described. *** Update for F12 - 11/20/09 *** It's much easier to install Fedora from a bootable USB memory stick that contains the DVD iso image than burning an actual DVD disk. Previously, I was able to squeeze both the i386 and x86_64 iso images onto a single 8 GB stick, but it required editing the images to delete irrelevant foreign language components. With F12 I gave up and put each system on a separate USB stick. Here's what I did: 1) Download both images: i386: -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 1511 Nov 12 01:23 Fedora-12-i386-CHECKSUM -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 3204427776 Nov 8 19:02 Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso x86_64: -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 1525 Nov 12 01:24 Fedora-12-x86_64-CHECKSUM -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 3537600512 Nov 8 19:11 Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso and run sha256sum on each to verify they're correct. 2) Insert a USB stick to hold the 386 image and note the device name assigned, eg, /dev/sdb. Usefdisk /dev/sdb to create a single partition, /dev/sdb1, of type Linux, and set it bootable. 3) Make an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. To maximize the available space, eliminate items that are customarily included in a filesystem: do NOT use -j to create a journal file set the number of inodes to only 100 set the reserved block percentage to 0 mkfs.ext2 -N 100 -m 0 /dev/sdb1 4) Install a bootable mini-Linux by running livecd-iso-to-disk livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 5) Copy the install.img file and the big iso file Create mount points for the iso and the USB partition. mkdir /mnt/iso mkdir /mnt/usb mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso/mnt/iso mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb mkdir /mnt/usb/images cp /mnt/iso/images/install.img /mnt/usb/images/ cp Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/usb/ umount /mnt/usb /mnt/iso and remove the USB stick. Repeat for the x86_64 version. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12 Boot error message re mount of loop device
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, so I'm asking here first. If no-one points out a better way, I'll file a bug report. Also I'd appreciate guidance where best to file it. During boot I want to mount an iso9660 file as a loop device. The iso file is on a ext3 partition labelled HUGE_01 which is mounted at /mnt/huge. FILE = /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso MOUNTPOINT = /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD. The mount succeeds. However during boot I get this unnecessary failure message: Mounting local filesystems: [ OK ] [snip] Mounting other filesystems: mount: according to mtab /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is already mounted on /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD as loop [ FAILED ] From a user perspective, this error message seems equivalent to: Because we tried unnecessarily to mount this device a second time after it had already mounted successfully, we now report to you that the second attempt failed. So a failure is reported where no failure occurred. Worse, a failure is reported for the reason that it already succeeded. This seems illogical and unnecessary. Unless I'm doing somethin' stoopid. Relevant details are below. Thanks, David # [...@kablamm ~]$ cat /etc/fstab LABEL=kablamm_C / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=kablamm_Z /boot ext2defaults1 2 LABEL=BIG_01/mnt/bigext3defaults1 2 LABEL=HUGE_01 /mnt/huge ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=kablamm_H /home ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=kablamm_S swapswapdefaults0 0 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD iso9660 loop,ro,gid=share 0 0 [...@kablamm ~]$ ls -lZ /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso -r--r-. root share system_u:object_r:mount_loopback_t:s0 /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso [...@kablamm ~]$ mount -l /dev/sda8 on / type ext3 (rw) [kablamm_C] proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,rootcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t:s0) /dev/sda3 on /boot type ext2 (rw) [kablamm_Z] /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/big type ext3 (rw) [BIG_01] /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/huge type ext3 (rw) [HUGE_01] /dev/sda10 on /home type ext3 (rw) [kablamm_H] /dev/loop0 on /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD type iso9660 (ro,gid=502) [Fedora 12 i386 DVD] none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/f12/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=f12) [...@kablamm ~]$ uname -r 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can I avoid the ppc builder?
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:27 -0500, David Juran wrote: Hello. Is there a way I can keep my builds away from the ppc builders? I'm trying to push an update to my noarch (java) package (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1847061) but it seems to end up on a ppc64 builder and fail miserably )-: Now I promise I will try to dig in to the root cause of the build failure but since ppc no longer is a primary architecture, the failed build on PPC shouldn't hold up the release on the primary architectures. Not really, that is a bit of a problem. Doing some bugzilla searching, I think I'm running into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537536 I'll try to get hold of Andrew tomorrow to see if he can push the correction to stable. -- David Juran Sr. Consultant Red Hat +358-504-146348 -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Zikula hackfest gameplan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mel Chua wrote: Comments? Thoughts? Halp? Yay! We'll keep you updated. So I see at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula_hackfest#Production_.28Simon.29 that we are tackling the the remaining packaging stuff. Can we get a list together, broken down by implementation (Insight, FWN, Docs) and order of importance the packages that are either in progress or need tackling. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksa64cACgkQkZOYj+cNI1dbggCgm3StXjC5udITOXNiwvzQ+C5Z Yi4An22MVj9GSijwHy9GKsItUMveCV9K =Fbej -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Dialup PPPD with Network Manager in F12
I'm seeking advice on the use of plain old dialup pppd and Network Manager. My internet access is provided by 56kbit/s dialup modem on /dev/ttyS0 on a desktop pc which also has an ethernet NIC that gives CUPS, backup, NFS, internet services to another notebook pc. DSL is not available here due to poor line quality. I currently have dialup pppd working in Fedora 9. Back then I was not able to find a comprehensive or current Howto but I did get it working by reading widely and manually editing these files /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/resolv.conf /etc/host.conf /etc/ppp/pap-secrets /etc/ppp/peers/my_isp (wvdial with --remotename --chat options) /etc/ppp/options /etc/ppp/my_chat_script /etc/wvdial.conf Back then I uninstalled F9 Network Manager because it seemed that it and/or system-config-network was interfering with some of the above files. I now want to progress to Fedora 12. I will do a clean installation. So I'm just asking here first to see if there is a better way than my previous approach above. I noticed that NetworkManager in F12 included Wireless Broadband support, I hoped that it might also be useable for plain old dialup. I found a reference: http://www.linux.co.uk/docs/center/how-to/how-to-get-online-with-3g-broadband that it looks possible to specify the modem device port somewhere in NetworkManager. However I am unable to find anywhere to do this in F12 Network Manager Applet 0.7.996. Maybe the manual configuration option was dropped in favour of the wizard approach. My questions are: I need to use pppd via /dev/ttyS0 dialup modem in Fedora 12. 1) Should I disable Network Manager ? 2) Or is there a way to have Network Manager cooperate with serial device modem connections ? 3) Is Network Manager likely to have this capability in future ? Or is it considered obsolete ? 4) Have I overlooked any Howto that assists with use of pppd with serial device modems on F12 ? Thanks David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive
Hi, Thanks for the IOTOP command. It does not show me much in this case. I do not know what is causing the disk drive light to stay on now. The disk drive light works fine until about 5 minutes after boot up. then the hard drive light goes crazy and stays on solid. I can not really tell if the the hard drive is really in use but according to IOTOP it is not being used. Did you try lsof? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Daniel J Celta dce...@gmail.com wrote: Also if i do yum search ntfs I get a similar error Funny, I have no problem. Maybe I have an extra repo you lack? best, Dave #cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) # yum search ntfs Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, security adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00 adobe-linux-i386 17/17 fedora | 2.8 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free | 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free-updates | 2.8 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree| 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates| 2.8 kB 00:00 updates | 3.4 kB 00:00 updates/primary_db | 6.0 MB 00:05 Matched: ntfs = ntfs-3g.i386 : Linux NTFS userspace driver ntfs-3g.x86_64 : Linux NTFS userspace driver ntfs-3g-devel.i386 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g ntfs-3g-devel.x86_64 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g ntfs-config.noarch : A front-end to Enable/disable NTFS write support ntfsprogs.i386 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities ntfsprogs.x86_64 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities ntfsprogs-devel.i386 : Headers and libraries for libntfs ntfsprogs-devel.x86_64 : Headers and libraries for libntfs ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.i386 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module partimage.x86_64 : Partition imaging utility, much like Ghost sleuthkit.x86_64 : The Sleuth Kit (TSK) testdisk.x86_64 : Tool to check and undelete partition testdisk-doc.x86_64 : TestDisk PhotoRec documentation -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: I will try FC10 tonight at home Why FC10, FC12 is out. FC10 will soon be obsolete. Maybe the problem is Red Hat??? Could be, or as I already suggested, your yum could be configured differently than mine, or just not working. I am also able to get this package on a centos box, which is based on redhat. And redhat is based on fedora. Dave $ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.3 (Final) $ yum search ntfs Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, priorities, security 2 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Matched: ntfs = libguestfs.i386 : Access and modify virtual machine disk images libguestfs.x86_64 : Access and modify virtual machine disk images chntpw.x86_64 : Offline NT password and registry editor dkms-ntfs.noarch : Driver for reading and writing on NTFS formatted volumes findntfs.x86_64 : Find NTFS partitions fuse-ntfs-3g.x86_64 : Linux NTFS userspace driver fuse-ntfs-3g-devel.x86_64 : Header files, libraries and development : documentation for fuse-ntfs-3g. gnome-vfs2-ntfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module ntfsprogs.x86_64 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities ntfsprogs.i386 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities ntfsprogs-devel.x86_64 : Header files, libraries and development documentation : for ntfsprogs ntfsprogs-devel.i386 : Headers and libraries for libntfs ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.i386 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module partimage.x86_64 : partition imaging utility, much like Ghost scalpel.x86_64 : Frugal, high-performance file carver testdisk.x86_64 : Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost : files testdisk-doc.x86_64 : TestDisk PhotoRec documentation -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: example content
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 14:15 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey, one change we are planning to make to the desktop spin in F13 is to go from targeting a cd to targeting a 1g usb stick. Why 1GB? It seemed to me, when discussing this earlier on this list, that everyone agreed that 2GB made much more sense. Thanks, David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
f12 boot problem
I just built a system with these components: EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card http://www.frys.com/product/6054898 Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P AMD 790X + SB750 http://www.frys.com/product/5928114 AMD Phenom II 965 http://www.frys.com/product/6071348 Since I didn't receive my hard drives or optical drives yet, I tried Fedora 12 Live USB booting this system to test it. It dies during boot (or at least the video is screwed up, I can't tell for sure if it's completely dead). The last thing it prints is this: pci :00:00.0: BAR 3: address space collision on of device [0xe000-0x] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Pointer to BIT loadval table invalid [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: 0xD6B5: Init table command not found: 0x8C [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: 0xDEA4: Init table command not found: 0x00 I tried 32 and 64 bit Live USBs and I tried nomodeset. I'm assuming the problem is related to the video card based on the last messages I see, but I'm not sure. I thought I had screwed up something when I built this system, so I tried Mythbuntu 9.10 Live USB... that worked perfectly. This is going to be a Mythbuntu system anyway, so it's not a big deal that it doesn't work in Fedora. But I will file a bug report if somebody tells me what to file it against and what additional information to provide (and how to get that information from a hung live USB boot environment). I had to take a picture of the screen to get the above information because it only shows up for about 0.5 seconds before the screen blanks. Regards, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Trademark License Agreement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM, B.S. wrote: Greetings, I'm planning to open a website about fedora.I think I have to sign TLA to legalize this but I have no idea about how to do this... I tried to connect with le...@fedor* they didn't replied to me Can anybody give me some directions? Thanks! Per this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Trademark_guidelines#Domain_names You should contact the Board, and I would mail the fedora-advisory-board mailing list. The fedora-legal list is generally, but not always, concerned with software licensing issues. Seems that this set of guidelines would come into play, and likely you would need a TLA. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains However, today (and in most cases) tomorrow is a public holiday in the US where a significant chunk of the Board resides. Cheers, David Nalley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksOuVYACgkQkZOYj+cNI1ei7wCgnnk+PIsZ3kFqcxtqzt+sVlf3 +2UAoJAl+AHMSfG7anim+jSCuhlDWxVQ =TYlc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? Normally, the folks not having problems don't feel the urge to type. Those having problems feel the need to type. :-0 I was expecting a totally different response. Is F12 stable enough to warrant upgrading to it ? Is it a worthwhile upgrade at this point ? I did a fresh install of F12 with 0 problems. I also upgraded a fully updated F11 system to F12 with 0 problems. So, far...not problems with either systems. But, I must admit that I don't do interesting things on these systems. I don't install non-Fedora or customized kernels. I don't replace Fedora or rpmfusion packages with packages from other places. I prefer to use the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia. for me... upgrading to F12 with the Nvidia drivers caused a. X not to start initially, and b. KDE to be unusable due to some nvidia bug or something-- but on the good side, the pulseaudio included in F12 fixed my laptop headphone jack-switch problem, which makes it all worth it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 05:43 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 11/26/2009 01:05 AM, David Timms wrote: On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? audacity-freeworld-1.3.7-0.6.1.beta.fc11.x86_64 I thought I had a patch that enables pulseaudio output and input in the f11 build, in which case you would see a pulse entry in both lists. Is there something amiss with pulseaudio on your machine ? eg is it running in ps aux|grep pulse -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ext4fs
I am going to clean install fc12 but I don't know how to handle this situation,my /home is ext3fs and I want format the rest of my directories as ext4fs,will the two fs get on together or am I going to format everything as ext4 and use my /home backup. If I use my dvd backup,what command do I use to transfer the data from the dvd to my harddrive and do I have to do it in ctrl-alt-F2 CLI david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphical video not working after yum upgrade from fedora 11 to fedora 12
Hi John, I had an up to date fedora 11 install that was working fine. I followed the instructions on the wiki for doing a yum upgrade and everything seemed to go very well until I rebooted and things hung as the graphical interface (I use KDE) was to boot. I am able to boot into single user mode and run level 3 and things appear to be fine. I just can not get the graphical display. Any help would be appreciated. I had some minor issues with the open driver (aka nouveau) when upgrading to Fedora 12 and in my investigations I found a couple of interesting links for people using the proprietary one: - Official howto from RPM Fusion: http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia - Personal blog with similar problem (solved): http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=232 HTH, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless problems under F11
Hi Paolo, It looks like you will enjoy NetworkManager: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-Networking.html Regards, David 2009/11/21 Paolo Galtieri pgalti...@gmail.com: I have a laptop running F11 and I have been having strange problems with wireless. At home I have a wireless network setup using WPA authentication and I can connect to it without problems. Yesterday I was at the airport which has a free public access wireless. I turned off wpa_supplicant, configured the wireless network for auto everything except the ssid which was set to the airport's wireless ssid. I started the network and ran iwlist wlan0 scan to see what networks where available. About a dozen showed up, only a few of which where the airport's wireless. Despite seeing available wireless networks I never succeeded in connecting to any. I tried specifying the channel number, nothing. I booted up my laptop on Windows XP and it connected immediately. I arrived at my parents' house last night and tried to connect to their wireless network. I had the exact same problem. In my parents' case iwlist wlan0 scan showed only 1 network, theirs. I have been able to connect to my parents' wireless fine previously. I booted up on Windows XP and I connected immediately. This email is being sent from XP so I don't have access to the logs, but what I saw from running wireshark and tailing the messages file was that my laptop was sending out DHCP request and discover messages, but I never saw any replies. Since I can connect with XP the problem is not the hardware, does any one have any ideas as to what to try? Any thoughts are appreciated. Is wireless support improved in F12 and would this be an option? Thanks, Paolo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Tester needed for Audacious
On 11/21/2009 09:20 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: I'm in search for somebody who can give me feedback about whether the following builds of the  audacious-plugins  package succeed or fail at playing Musepack (.mpc) audio files:  Fedora 12: audacious-plugins-2.1-18.fc12  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=141715 Works fine for me (i686).  Fedora 10: audacious-plugins-1.5.1-18.fc10  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=141711 Also works fine (x86_64). The mpc file I tested with was created with mppenc, with no parameters other than the source wav name. Perhaps the issue is encoding/compression parameter specific, or due to the particular compressor that made it ? ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: brp-python-bytecompile
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 09:53 -0700, Jerry James wrote: I'm looking into the build failures Matt identified. With my shiny new Rawhide VM, I'm seeing this output on a local build of a package with no python sources: [ ... successful build messages ...] + /usr/lib/rpm/brp-python-bytecompile Bytecompiling .py files below [BUILDROOT]/usr/lib*/python*/ using /usr/bin/python* Usage: /usr/bin/python-config [--prefix|--exec-prefix|--includes|--libs|--cflags|--ldflags|--help] Usage: /usr/bin/python-config [--prefix|--exec-prefix|--includes|--libs|--cflags|--ldflags|--help] + /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/brp-python-hardlink [ ... successful build messages ...] The rpm build is completing, so I'm not worried about this particular package. Is this going to cause problems with packages that do have python sources, or is this just because nothing matches /usr/lib*/python*/ in the build root? It looks like python_binary = /usr/bin/python*, which can match any of these: /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/python-config /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python2.6 /usr/bin/python2.6-config Sorry; looks like my fault. I updated /usr/lib/rpm/brp-python-bytecompile to better cope with the python 2 vs python 3 split; this was in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531117 From my reading, what's happening is that I coded it with the (incorrect) assumption that files exist which match $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib*/python*/ When at least one such file exists, I believe the shell expands the glob and thus we iterate over the library subdirectories, byte-compiling all .py files in them with the appropriate version of python. When no such directory exists, the shell fails to expand it, and retains it as the text string: your_build_root/usr/lib*/python*/ and thus one iteration of that loop happens, and we get the two error messages. So I believe this is harmless but messy. Filed as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539635 Sorry for any confusion. Dave -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: Btrfs snapshots feature for F13
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 23:34 -0500, Chris Ball wrote: Given the above, do you think you'd be okay with having: Filesystem snapshot that will be active on next boot: drop-down Shouldn't it say next time volume is mounted instead of next boot? We can always special case rootfs to say next boot of course (since rootfs can't be unmounted until next boot). Also, what is the mechanism to configure this? Just a simple command from btrfs-progs (best)? Or does it require surgery to /etc/fstab and/or the initramfs (bad)? Create new whole-filesystem snapshot now: label apply in a Btrfs-specific section in Palimpsest? That's all that's needed for the UI component of this feature. From a 50,000 feet view all this sounds good to me. (Oh, and if it turns out that creating/destroying btrfs snaphots isn't a privileged operation (I can't remember at this point) it would probably make sense for Nautilus to just use the btrfs tools directly instead of going through a system daemon. There's just no need to overcomplicate things.) Creating a new snapshot is unprivileged, but mounting an old one (which nautilus would need to do in order to show you the contents of a previous snapshot, so that you can decide which files you want to restore from it) requires a mount(8) call for each snapshot. OK. We need to decide how all this is going to work - maybe some of it will go into GIO and be part of an abstraction that also works for other filesystems, maybe it will be a Nautilus-only feature. I don't know yet, leaning towards the latter right now, but I guess we'll find out. Thanks, David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 00:34 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/19/2009 12:31 AM, nodata wrote: Rahul, it seems to be that the person who made this change (fesco approved?) is the one who should answer why the change is a good thing, rather than oh I changed it, now tell me why it's bad. Do you know who it was? I don't see why FESCo should be involved and I have no idea who made this decision. I would have preferred the change to be announced and documented in detail regardless of that. I assume David Zeuthen? (CC'ed) Jeez, Rahul. This has nothing to do with polkit per se, only PackageKit and how it decides to use polkit. I've commented that much in the bug. And as noted in the bug I don't even agree there's a problem. But I leave that to Richard and others to sort out. Btw, please don't add me to the Cc again like this or reply to this - I'm not interested in this bike-shed or what color it is. Thanks. David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFC: Btrfs snapshots feature for F13
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:47 -0500, Chris Ball wrote: Also, what is the mechanism to configure this? Just a simple command from btrfs-progs (best)? Or does it require surgery to /etc/fstab and/or the initramfs (bad)? Josef's been thinking about exactly that -- the current situation requires you to add subvol=snapshot-name to the mount args, which indeed would require you to change fstab (for non-rootfs) or to add a rootflags= argument to the grub menu (for rootfs). He's considering changing the btrfs disk format to add a default subvolume for this fs field that would lead us to a simple btrfsctl command for setting that field instead. I agree that his solution's what we'd like. OK, sounds good to me. I'm subscribed to the btrfs-list so I guess I'll just sit around and wait for Josef's patch to show up. Thanks, David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Review request...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 11/18/2009 06:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Many packagers don't know that maintaining a proper spec %changelog for relevant spec file changes and %release bumps are considered important during review already. Others add meaningless/dummy %changelog entries even in Fedora cvs. But that's a people issue that needs to be solved, not papered over in the name of being nice. Sadly, incompetence as in unfamiliarity with guidelines which are assumed to be prerequisites for proper packaging is growing in our ranks (both from new packagers and from people who ought to know better), something needs to be done about it. For sure. Personally I've been using Redhat/Fedora for years now, but this is my first package submission to fedora. I've wanted to get involved for awhile now. I had read the guidelines, and honestly want to provide a properly configured package. I think (and this very well could have been a language issue) that knowing what the issue I'm missing in my current spec would help immensely. I mean I know there are packaging guidelines, and there is a lot of information there, so it is plausible for someone new not to see sub documentation or notice that their spec isn't in compliance. Having the exact issue pointed out helps with the learning. Is there a 'ReviewingReviews' guideline? Would that even help? Anyway, I hope to get some feedback on the actual review too, but I mainly started this thread because I wasn't sure what I wasn't doing. I was asked for a scratch build which I *thought* I had provided a link to. I provided links to spec files and srpms. However was continually being asked for that same thing, and the requests and my responses were obviously not being understood by either party. I posted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious, some guideline of 'Here's how to post your spec file, srpm and scratch build', if I wasn't doing it correctly. Sincerely trying to provide the best package I can, Nathanael There is a Review Guidelines page that is supposed to be the basis for package reviews: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines but they honestly only scratch the bare minimum of the full set of Packaging Guidelines. My take, as a comparatively inexperienced packager, is that packaging is such a wide ranging subject that it's not something that you can gain proficiency at without gaining the experience of doing it a lot, and in the process failing a lot and learning from the failure. 6 months from now, you'll likely look back on your first few packages, as I did, and wonder 'how did that ever pass the review process?', or 'what was my sponsor thinking when he approved of me?'. The packaging guidelines, are honestly sooo voluminous, and also so scattered, that it's an interesting problem for new packagers, and the getting started as a packager documentation is the same way. Much of that could be improved (and at one time there was an effort going on towards that end.) but it will never become 'easy'. In the end, don't hesitate to ask for help or say you don't know. Part of the process is learning how to become effectively lost. Failure, within Fedora is OK, and even encouraged, provided you correct it and learn from it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksEwFIACgkQkZOYj+cNI1fNxACgqS4lso7EkKaCpmGURK0G0TZH s24An0ryEFUdt8sE1TgvOScN9hJKRC7w =PBdd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: how to start with simple SDL programming?
On 11/17/2009 07:19 AM, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: 2009/11/16, Robert P. J. Dayrpj...@crashcourse.ca: having never done any SDL programming before (so be gentle), what would i need to do to get started in terms of loading framebuffer support for my first program? I'm just getting started with opengl using nehe's lessons [1], and a bit of help from an old FedoraForum post got me started. I haven't messed with SDL yet, but mention this in case it's good for a general intro to techniques etc. I think the source was originally targeted at visual studio on windows. but various people have submitted versions for a list of many different compilers and environments. [1] nehe.gamedev.net/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rpms/perl-Curses-UI/F-12 import.log,1.1,1.2
Author: hvad Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Curses-UI/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22982/F-12 Modified Files: import.log Log Message: Index: import.log === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Curses-UI/F-12/import.log,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2 --- import.log 22 Sep 2009 08:01:13 - 1.1 +++ import.log 19 Nov 2009 06:22:37 - 1.2 @@ -1 +1,2 @@ perl-Curses-UI-0_9607-2_fc10:HEAD:perl-Curses-UI-0.9607-2.fc10.src.rpm:1253613621 +perl-Curses-UI-0_9607-2_fc10:F-12:perl-Curses-UI-0.9607-2.fc10.src.rpm:1258404323 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: trying to understand SELinux message
On 11/16/2009 12:56 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: My thanks for the prompt reply. I am not certain why I would want to disable SELinux as it clearly is part of the Fedora package and is trying to tell me that something isn't right. Yes, I know I should not start X server or login as root ... and that is not my normal work habit. But I would expect that I should still be able to do such and not have SELinux bark unless there was something wrong. It is the what is wrong that I am trying to understand and correct. Paul Well, for home or personal use systems, you don't really need SELinux. SELinux is for mission critical servers. Or unless you work for defense or intelligence agencies, then your laptop needs to be secured with SELinux and high grade encryption. Hmm... Build a house. Add locks to all the doors and windows so that the contents of the house can be kept secure. Then disable the locks and leave the doors and windows wide open. Makes *perfect* sense. :-) -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Was: XBMC for Fedora- now Sending as html in Thunderbird
On 11/16/2009 6:03 PM, Roger wrote: P.S. I'm using Thunderbird, and don't know how to suppress the HTML formatting. I appologize. Its one of those well hidden attributes. Go to Address Book(the book icon) then highlight and select each member in your address book one at a time right click to select Properties and look at the bottom of the window for Prefers the receive messages formatted as and in the dropdown selector select Plain Text You will need to do this for every addressee on your list, unless someone knows of a bulk way of doing it. Roger It is in the 'Account Settings' under the 'Composition Addressing' tab. Uncheck Compose in HTML format. For each account if you have more than one. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Plugging into Projectors
On 11/14/2009 02:29 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I am running F11 on a Dell Latitude D820. I am unable to connect to projectors except at ridiculously small screen resolutions. Running Windows on the same machine plugs into projectors easily. What can I do? - mention what actual resolutions work - F11 up2date - card (lspci), and driver is in use ? - resolution you are trying ? - does the system you are plugging into feed EDID back to your PC ? (most installed projection systems don't, only RGBHV are sent to proj, no returns). - are you on the VGA connector / input - if it's no EDID (try plugging cable straight into projector), it might be recognised else System Admin Display|Hardware|Monitor Type = ? Configure select either the matching display, or generic display of resolution the projector is capable of. Logout, ie make X restart, and then in System Preferences Display set up your monitor. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unexpected logout
On 11/14/2009 10:09 AM, Dj YB wrote: On Friday November 13 2009 17:42:58 Mikkel wrote: Dj YB wrote: thanks but how much time should I wait? could there be another explanation? I will run this test now and get back to you after it is done cheers YB. It is more a matter of how many passes, rather then how long. For a quick test, one or two passes will do. But for a good test, I like to see at least 50 passes. This will normally find obscure problems. It also subjects the memory to temperature changes. Once you are satisfied with the test, hit the Esc key, and the system will do a graceful reboot. Mikkel I just realised something really important, I got 4 memory chips, 2 are 512 MB DDRII and 2 more are 256 MB DDR when only the pair of 512 DDRII are in the bios is showing them when only the pair of 256 DDR are in the bios is showing them as well but, when all the 4 are together like it is all the time, the bios is only showing the pair of 512 for some reason... I tried some changes in the bios but with no luck, anyone know if this a normal behaviour or shoudl I change something in the bios, if so what should I look for? thanks in advance YB. DDR2 and DDR are not compatible. They don't work with each other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin
On 11/13/2009 05:19 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: Where do I find the open build servers in Fedora / RPMFusion? By open build (with openSUSE) you can create one or more projects on openSUSE's server and the server is used to compile the sources based on your configuration settings. If you mean rpm .spec files then yes it's similar. However, you can not be any random hacker/cracker of the street ;-) You create a .spec for the thing you want to package, and submit a review request. In time, one or more reviewers help you to knock the spec into a form where it meets the fedora / rpm fusion packaging guidelines. At this point, they also request that you perform pre-reviews of other packager's efforts. This is to show that you understand the process and guidelines (in your case, consider some other music packages - ie similar interest). At this stage an overseeing sponsor takes a look at your package Review request and decides if you have learnt enough to be accepted as a packager. It isn't that hard; but it is a little more difficult that extract, config, make, make install. The final result must: work on multiple architectures, be able to build from source, and fit with packaging guidelines which aim to stop packages stepping on each other's toes. Whilst the input of the data and the configuration of the project takes time their seems to be an advantage in that the different architectures can be compiled in one run. Yes, Fedora and RPM Fusion build requests do builds for multiple supported arch (i686, x86_64, ppc). There are other build servers for less commmon architectures like s390x and arm. In the case of Fedora you have to become a contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join and more specifically: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers I presume the process is similar on RPMFusion. In fact, once you have become a packager for Fedora, you need to create yourself a fas account in RPM Fusion, then submit your Review Request, mentioning that you are already a Fedora packager. Please query in your Review Request, and on an appropriate list when you need help. You might like to review both bugzilla.redhat.com and bugzilla.rpmfusion.org searching for music related packages, that you might be able to help review ... DaveT (now I've got GUI on an F12 rc install, I might have a chance at getting audacity to build and work out what's going wrong) ;-0 ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
RE: Identifying remaining core font users
I have a bigger problem with this, I use fedora boxes to talk to older devices (solaris 2.6 and M88KV4 unix machines) that can never be upgraded to newer X clients. Since the fedora ( or any xorg) servers are talking to classic X11 clients dropping support for core fonts is a huge issue. The clients are running on the host computers for flight simulators. The clients are built on 3rd party libraries that date from the early 90s. As the existing Xterms (Tek/NCD ) fail we are replacing them with newer linux based thin clients, but we still need classic X11 font support. The programming support is done on solaris and linux boxes the need to display the same layouts as the xterms dave -Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Richard W.M. Jones Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:38 AM To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: Identifying remaining core font users On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:41:32PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: It seems the people maintaining text libs are not interested in backends that fail if you use codepoints outside a specific encoding, or when you use the wrong font (because encoding is just one part that changed, OpenType smart features such as ligatures and swashes mean that even if you restrict yourself to basic latin nowadays a modern font won't behave like a simple ASCII font used to ten years ago). Probably because they know that if they limited themselves users would ask for the missing bits anyway. Projects that find modern text libs over-complex should try to maintain their own simple alternative (or pick up the maintenance of the X11 Core fonts system). I suspect they'd quickly find themselves in agreement with current text lib maintainers. So really, it's just a matter of delegation: if you don't want to maintain your own text stack, follow the advice of the people maintaining the one you use, and the advice of X11 Core fonts maintainers (back when there were still some, in 2003) was clear: drop it and use fontconfig instead. Yes ... but ... we're talking mainly about demos and examples written for beginners. --- hello.ml -- #!/usr/bin/ocamlrun ocaml #load graphics.cma;; open Graphics let () = open_graph 200x150; set_font -*-times-*-r-*-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-*-*; auto_synchronize false; while true do let x, y = ref 50, ref 80 in List.iter ( fun c - moveto !x !y; let rand () = Random.int 256 in set_color (rgb (rand ()) (rand ()) (rand ())); draw_char c; x := !x + 24; if c = ' ' then (y := !y - 24; x := 50) ) [ 'H'; 'E'; 'L'; 'L'; 'O'; ' '; 'W'; 'O'; 'R'; 'L'; 'D'; '!' ]; synchronize () done --- Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 70 libraries supprt'd http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW http://www.annexia.org/fedora_mingw -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin
On 11/10/2009 09:45 AM, Jud Craft wrote: Hello all. I see on the internet that there is a utility to decode TNEF/(Microsoft Outlook)-type email attachments. The utility (library?) looks like its available in Fedora. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/search/ for tnef you'll see what is already packaged. I recently packaged tnef, which is a pure command line application. I added gnome and kde context menus so that if you receive a mail with a tnef attachment, you save the attachment, and then right click on the file and use open with extract tnef archive. The package has not yet completed review, but the spec, and source rpm are available on the review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522920 Any reviewers are welcome to help out by sorting out the final stages of the review. However, there is a separate Evolution plugin that appears to be upstream (since GNOME 2.12 [1]). This plugin doesn't seem to be available in Fedora. Are there any plans to make it available? 1. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271398 I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me. How about you ? Want to contribute to the Fedora community and learn a little a packaging software for a distro ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers
On 11/10/2009 09:40 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: I have two old servers Dual Pentium III 500Mhz and have just replaced two older single CPU Pentium III 500Mhz machines. I had FC4 and FC5 on the older servers. Now have F11 on the two newer machines. I would say the same for an old pentium II 366 notebook (512MB). The Fedora 3 or so that was around when it first received a linux distro was much snappier than F10 (the most recent one I tried). Things to think about: - if you are talking about the same machine, disk drive tiredness would have reduced the access speed that you can achieve, when r/w to disk. - fans may be worn, running slowly, and noisily, leading to poor cooling of components and temp sensors kicking in to reduce clock rates. - the kernel is general purpose, and aimed for the most common machine that it will get put on eg see stats: (and ram, cache sizes types speed). http://www.smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html - stack hardening / etc in libraries / compiled programs - security updates adding proper checking of eg received/entered strings etc - just more processing to be done (that should have been done in the original release, but was instead added over time as security analysis showed poor handling) - selinux (was it in and on, active in your older release) ? - defaulting to use of layered storage (ie lvm) in newer releases ? - audio - possibly biggest CPU killer is runtime audio dsp mixing (eg an old machine just passed audio data to the sound card, and it was attenuated there before output - might have been 1-2% cpu. same machine playing back audio now might used 30-50% cpu. - more stuff that instead of using fd's to pass information, instead using other methods like dbus calls with xml like data to encode then decode. - more stuff relying on storage/retrieval of information from inefficient storage formats like xml - more web sites assuming you have fast CPU, infinite bandwidth, and infinite monthly download limits, leading to sites: - filled with far too many ads (firefox adblock) - far to much active content like flash (flashblock) - far too many stat, counting, tracking connections to make - familiarity with faster machines changing your perceptions of speed. - Fedora joining of Fedora and Extras, increasing the size of metadata dl needed for updates etc. (although with better caching methods, and some optimized parsing). If we consider moore's law saying we'll get a doubling of CPU performance every 18 months, the corollary must be we'll bloat our os and applications to at least exceed the above as operational requirements; end result is actual decline in capability over time... If you have two identical machines: you might be in the best position to do direct A-B comparisons of same hardware, different OS. Get the stopwatch out, what type of things take longer/shorter ? I am sure others can think of more excuses why same machine would be slower with newer OS. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin
On 11/10/2009 11:56 PM, Jud Craft wrote: I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me. I meant non-evolution user, it isn't ;-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers
On 11/11/2009 04:54 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Computer users nightmare number 9: Part way through the installation process, a message pops up, You're going to need a bigger boat Nice way of putting it! Ack ;-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
On 11/8/2009 1:45 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: I replied to this message a while ago probably as the header states Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new) Friday, November 6, 2009 7:02 PM From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com Add sender to Contacts To: Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com And I just got it Today, Sunday November 8. I have yahoo mail and gmail, I wonder if it is their fault or fedora-list's fault? I ask again, am I the only one that is seeing this behavior? Thanks and kind regards, I saw your reply several days ago. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I launch qgis - segfault
On 11/09/2009 05:48 AM, Beartooth wrote: Is there a way to be notified when the bug is squashed? Or to check whether it's still in F12? I'll start upgrading a week or two after the release. You might like to keep a bookmark to: http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/qgis Since you can reproduce the bug, why not add yourself as cc to the bugzilla bug. Then when anyone makes a comment on the bug, or a release is built for testing, or pushed to updates-released, you will get an email. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin
On 11/08/2009 09:08 PM, Simon Lewis wrote: Assuming that the user does and will install packages from all 3 repos (Fedora, RPMFusion and PlanetCCRMA) then there are in fact only 2 differences between the standard fedora spin and a studio type spin: Wait, firstly the spin couldn't be hosted at Fedora if it came with rpmfusion (or ccrma) repo enabled or with items that are not in Fedora (ie in rpmfusion or ccrma). I would prefer to see as many packages as possible in the Fedora and RPMFusion repos Sounds like we have a volunteer for continuing the effort to tidy up ccrma packages to fit with fedora, or failing that rpm fusion. The packages still need third party licensing examination, review requests, and resolving problems. We have a list, and Orcan and myself eg picked up a few, but there is a non-trivial process to be followed; manpower is welcome... Actually, isn't a spin really a live cd ? Would having the low level capability active, and apps installed provide anything like a realistic scenario for budding musicians, when apps need to be loaded from a livecd image ? It would also be unclear how many useful things we could fit in a CD size image (ie by expelling games|graphics|internet (most)|office) ? Cheers, DaveT. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
On 11/07/2009 05:26 PM, Tom H wrote: If it is me? Scratching my head, then I'll take a pill and go to sleep and forget that all of this is happening :) Are you on thunderbird, F11 ? Do you sort by thread on the mailing list traffic ? Thunderbird 3 changed to sorting by date order based on the most recent message that comes to a thread (very annoying). It used to always be based on the oldest message in each thread to provide the thread sort order. I thought it was a bug: (and it should at least be configurable). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495946 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: should I go for 64bit version of Fedora 11 ?
On 11/4/2009 6:14 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 03:58 +1100, Roger wrote: Were I in your position I would opt for 32 bit install the software and just 'use' the computer. In truth you probably will install 64 bit and all the discussion is merely opinions. My laptop supposedly supports 64 bit computing, but I installed 32 bit software, seeing as (at the time) people were stating all sorts of issues with using 64 bits for some of the things that I was already doing on 32 bits, without any troubles. For example, getting Flash to work on websites, or using sound (I seem to recall an issue with some sound cards, and 64 bits). Given some time for experimentation, and a new computer (i.e. one without anything I needed to keep on it), I'd be tempted to do a 64 bit install, and see how it worked with the things that I wanted to do. Then, it'd be an easy case to wipe off and install 32 bit software, if it was a dismal failure, or just keep on using 64 bit software if I couldn't see a problem with it. Having a fresh computer is an ideal time to try it both ways, and decide for yourself, based on your own needs and experiences. When I built my first x86_64 box several years ago I immediately installed an x86_64 Fedora OS and software. With the needed x86 software and libraries mixed in as dealt with by the Fedora system. I never 'fought' the system. Whatever 'Fedora' wanted to do I did. I have had none of the problems that some have mentioned. None. Ever. You bought the hardware why not use it? -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 11:45 -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: I need to rebuild alienarena for all targets due to a security issue, so I decided to update to 7.32, but unfortunately, the 7.32 build segfaults immediately on Fedora 12 (x86_64), and gdb isn't much help (gdb output is at the bottom). FWIW, it looks like the backtrace is within the C++ start-up code that runs all non-empty constructors for global C++ variables, which gets called before main starts for a C++ program. Does (gdb) break call_init before (gdb) run give you a working breakpoint? [snip] Hope this is helpful Dave -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: For Computer/Electronic Engineer types -- Intel Data Sheet interpretation ?!?
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:34 AM, William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote:
Hi;
I have the 102 page Intel Data Sheet in front of me. I am trying to
determine the High and Low voltage numbers for transistors on my
system.
I am not trying to do anything mysterious or build a CPU in my garage.
I am just doing a small write up for myself that has an introductory
paragraph for a section on how DRAM memory works that says something
like My machine's CPU and Memory transistors typically use XXX volts
when thrust High and XXX volts when driven Low. I understand that
things can get more complex, but I am only trying to establish a sense
or feel of what is happening inside, not write a technical manual for
engineers.
All the various Vtt, Vcc, Vss, VID etc. are getting confusing. I will
either have to spend a couple of days googling trying to interpret the
Data Sheet or take a short cut by asking here.
What designation or parameters should I be looking at for high and low
voltage (logical/binary 1 and logical/binary 0)?
I am using the Intel 318732.pdf {Core 2 Duo Processor Data Sheet}.
Somewhat off topic for this list ..
I have no expertise in this but out of curiousity I had a look at the
datasheet. My conclusions are below.
No doubt there will be others here with greater expertise who are
welcome to correct any errors.
Reference: http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/318732.pdf
The intent of the datasheet is to describes its interfaces, not its
internal operation.
1) Table 2: the processor outputs a byte that controls the regulator
to provide it a supply voltage VCC in the range 0.5 to 1.6 V.
2) Table 4 Note 7: VTT is the databus (frontside bus FSB) fixed
reference voltage. It does not vary.
3) Table 3: VTT absmax = 1.45V
4) Table 4: VTT typical = 1.2V
5) Section 2.7: The databus uses GTL+. The 0 or 1 reference
threshold for input voltages is GTLREF which is derived from VTT by a
simple resistive divider.
6) Table 15: With resistors 57.6 and 100 ohm: GTLREF=VTT*100/(57.6+100)=0.76V
7) So for the databus:
Table 11: (approx) 0 VIL GTLREF (VIL = voltage detected as 0 =
below 0.76V)
Table 11: (approx) GTLREF VIH VTT (VIH = voltage detected as 1 =
above 0.76V)
Table 11: (approx) VOH = VTT (VOH = voltage output for 1 = 1.2V)
I could not see any VOL (voltage output for 0) for the FSB in this datasheet.
8) Table 12 and Table 13 specify open-drain and cmos interfaces which
use different voltages.
Background docs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunning_Transceiver_Logic
http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/scea003a/scea003a.pdf (mentions VOL 0.4V for GTL+)
Hope this is useful.
David
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Re: Installing F12-Beta
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 15:47 +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: David why you are so upset? No need to get nasty. I simply posted a message about my problems installing F12. I did not Hijack any thread (see the subject name). I thought this was a public forum. I sent this to the whole mailing list. My apologies if I offended you. I'm not upset, and wasn't nasty. I was just trying to help you communicate more effectively, and without adding noise to other discussions. You _did_ hijack the thread -- you replied to Adam's message, using your 'reply' button instead of composing a new message to the list. Your mail is clearly marked, in its headers which I quoted, as a reply to that previous message -- as part of that older thread. It should have been a _new_ thread, not a reply to the existing thread. Please don't do that. And, while we're at it, please don't top-post either. And please remember to quote only what you actually need for context rather than repeating the _whole_ of the message to which you're replying. You may find http://david.woodhou.se/email.html to be useful reading. All I can tell you is what happened. Which is I put the DVD in the drive and after a while it came up with a recursive error and said it was fixed but needed to restart the computer. You _still_ didn't actually post the precise text of the error you saw, along with any output leading up to it. It's almost as if you don't _want_ people to be able to help you. Now that you posted the actual bug number rather than just teasing us with I put it in bugzilla but I'm not telling you where as you did in your previous mail, I can see that you didn't post the full error there, either. Please, show us the words you actually see on the screen -- or take a photo, perhaps. -- dwmw2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
pdf viewer wont zoom in enough
Wondering if anyone is having trouble reading pdf files. Document Viewer. Using poppler 0.10.7 (cairo), opens the pdf OK, but even at the largest zoom (400%), the page is shown at less than the full height of the screen, making it real hard to read it. What's with that ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheap Acer notebook on Newegg: What wireless chip does it use?
On 11/02/2009 07:01 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I found this laptop[1] for a GREAT price but I haven't been able to find out what wireless chip it uses and I want to make sure it works under F11/F12. I've tried acer.com but they don't list the chip. Anyone have one or know where to find it? Thanks, Richard [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115654 I don't know but doesn't the cited web page answer the question at the top of the page? ATI Radeon HD 3200 - Retail dlg I couldn't find out either. Mail Acer and, while letting them know what dimwits they are, ask about the chip that the wireless card uses. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NMI interrupt received
On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Jatin K wrote: On 11/02/2009 12:02 PM, pandi k wrote: Hi All, We are using Fedora Core 7 with 2.6.21 kernel and facing a issue in booting. Do you have the chance to use a newer version of Fedora, like 10 or 11 ? Remember that there have been no updates for F7 for some years now. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pdf viewer wont zoom in enough
On 11/03/2009 01:42 AM, Andras Simon wrote: On 11/2/09, David Timmsdti...@iinet.net.au wrote: Wondering if anyone is having trouble reading pdf files. Document Viewer. Using poppler 0.10.7 (cairo), opens the pdf OK, but even at the largest zoom (400%), the page is shown at less than the full height of the screen, making it real hard to read it. What's with that ? Can't the pdf file itself be the culprit? Possibly, I don't know enough about it. Did you try other pdf-viewers? Yes, xpdf can zoom in appropriately to be able to read the pages. I was guessing that somehow a setting of dots per inch on my screen is out of kilter, or trouble with fonts, or ? Conversely, all existing pdfs that are on my machine have this problem (with Doc Viewer). DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing F12-Beta
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:29 +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: In-reply-to: 1257111085.2314.154.ca...@adam.local.net References: adf480660910311031h5889985by4fb8d4ac7f342...@mail.gmail.com 1257111085.2314.154.ca...@adam.local.net Steven, please could you explain the relationship between your message on 'Installing F12-Beta' and the message to which you replied, which was about upstream developers becoming co-maintainers. If there is no relationship, then you've just hijacked an existing thread by posting your unrelated query as a reply to it -- please don't do that. You may also find that you'll get more help if you provide a more coherent bug report. You neglected to give any useful details about the error you see. Giving the full error message might have helped. Or even telling us at which stage of the boot it happens might have given a clue. I'd look in the bug you filed to see if you provided that information there... but you didn't even bother to tell us the bug number. My crystal ball isn't working today, so I _couldn't_ help you, even if I _didn't_ have a policy of not helping thread-hijackers until they post their problem politely ;) -- dwmw2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to set VNC display resolution on F11?
On 10/29/2009 04:32 PM, Comcast Mail wrote: I just installed F11 on an AMD X2 5600+ machine with 4GB and an integrated video system, 9100M, to experiment with it. I'm using the 32 bit OS for right now since I don't want to deal with issues mixing 32 and 64 bits apps and libraries together on one machine. Are you talking vnc server or client ? I think the server sets the sizes of the clients that connect. I tried to setup VNC on the above machine. I used the exact same procedure as on another machine I have running F10. The setup on F11, which mostly works, except for the remote display resolution. It seems whatever I set in the etc/sysconfig/vncserver file is ignored by the Perhaps post the (non-comment) contents of said file ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from PPC users on fedora-list. Does Fedora PPC work or install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is that no one has tried it on an oldworld No, it doesn't. The ppc specific release notes cover that here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/en-US/ index.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Requirements I'd looked at the release notes. They says Minimum CPU: PowerPC G3... and Although Old World machines should work, they require a special bootloader which is not included in the Fedora distribution. My question is whether anyone has tried it in any recent Fedora release and knows whether should means do or don't. (FWIW, the special bootloader is BootX, and Debian Lenny is installing now, so /some/ form of Linux works. I just don't know anything but hearsay about Debian. I see it uses apt.) I don't know of anyone who's tried it recently, but in the past we've fixed things in the kernel to make it work properly on OldWorld Macs and it _has_ been known to work fine. It _ought_ to work if you sort out the bootloader. -- dwmw2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Phoronix Test suite - like to create an updated package ?
On 10/29/2009 04:40 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Currently there is a Phoronix Test Suite version 2.2 beta. Even if it is in beta it is much more usable than current version that is in Fedora repository because the version that is in Fedora repos it so obsolete that most of test suites even fail to download and because of that is is not too useful :( Usually, a maintainer should keep a package at the same version for the life a a fedora release, unless clear fixes to bugs or security problems are found. Beta releases would typically be put into rawhide (the coming release), so that they can get extended testing along with other packages that make up that F release. There is a RFE request for update one month old but it got no reply from package maintainer :( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526852 Which quite possibly means they have no time to work on an updated package. Given it is something you use, you could checkout the package source, update it, build it, and test it. Once you have it working, attach the patch to the spec etc to the bug. If you need help getting started on such a path, please reply here... DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
On 10/26/2009 10:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:57:18 David Timms wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you what to your CPU and kernel combination has. [r...@yoda ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz stepping: 13 cpu MHz : 1500.000 cache size : 2048 KB baby cache! flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 2992.47 OK, consider me surprised;-) mine (core2duo 2GHz) says: ... wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 3989.84 So those must be the failed vt tests core2duos that if they were back in pentium III/IV days would get marketed as Celeron ? Bad luck about that. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating Fedora 11 to FC12 beta!
On 10/27/2009 11:10 PM, Pauls Lists wrote: Hi All, Can I update my current FC11 to FC12 without having to wipe the disk and install from scratch again?. I would just like to be able to download the necessary kernels and files and upgrade rather than having to reinstall completely. Have you heard about preupgrade ? Description : preupgrade prepares your Fedora system for an upgrade to the next version by examining your system, downloading all the files needed for the upgrade, and then setting up your system to perform the upgrade after rebooting. Note that depending upon your current language settings, you probably want to do this with preupgrade currently in updates-testing, by using the command in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527552#c10 Then type preupgrade, and choose the x show me more, and select rawhide. Let us know how you go. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11, amavisd-new, clamscan and Thunderbird 3.0b4
On 10/26/2009 5:11 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: My clamdrib (TB extension) has stopped working despite changing instsll.rdf So how can I setup amavisd-new\clamav for use with TB. Most of the googling bring up refrences to user:clamav. http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/clamav-redhat-amavis.html I have users clamscan and clamupdate. What would\should be changed from above link? No manual entry for amavisd-new amavisd --help (can't make out how to use in my setup from this) The page at the link that you provided is a little dated I think. 5/23/2005 :-) Might I suggest that you contact the author of this extension for help? -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11, amavisd-new, clamscan and Thunderbird 3.0b4
On 10/26/2009 12:49 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 26/10/09 15:25, David wrote: On 10/26/2009 5:11 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: The page at the link that you provided is a little dated I think. 5/23/2005 :-) Might I suggest that you contact the author of this extension for help? No can do, no cotnact info for clamdrib I'm not really sure that I would have any faith in an extension with an anonymous author. Especially since it was last updated March 7, 2008. That looks, to me, like this extension has died. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe
On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong. It seems that the build logs are no longer available ? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1504772 eg for: x86_64 (red) https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1516629 And the other 3x orange ones appear to mean cancelled, is that correct ? Wonder whether they were cancelled manually (ie the whole rebuild) ? Or did the fail on one arch trigger the cancels ? Anyway, a scratch build (without change) succeeds: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1766626 Should I bump and rebuild, or just re-request the same build ? Should I request it to be in F-12 ? (the i586.f11 one that is in f-12 beta (rawhide) works OK). DaveT. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
