Re: how to increase the number of virtual desktops?
On 27/12/09 22:42, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:20:06 -0500 (EST), Robert wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... Right click over the workspaces in the lower right corner and pick Preferences. wow ... that just blew away all of my desktops and quit unexpectedly. Without triggering ABRT? ABRT triggered for me. - the workspace switcher disappeared from my preferred location (top near-left) - open windows no longer have icon/name tabs (?window list) - the preferences dialog did not get displayed before ABRT showed - submitted and autoduped as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539343 ps there is a gnome-panel in updates-testing that I'm about to try with. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Better information needed for noobs like me
On 12/23/2009 10:27 PM, birger wrote: I have 3 kids with guitars. I have a keyboard somewhere. I need to learn how to set up the software for them :-D Move over Jonas Brothers... The future is getting ready. You mightn't think so, but even 'beginners' can be good documentation writers. Put down what steps it takes, and how it differs from earlier material (that you reference). The fact that it's written by a beginner could help it to be more easily used by other beginners... The wiki suggestion is good. I think the key is to try to write fairly short, task specific wiki pages, and then some fedoraproject process/tools can convert the individual pages into a spruced up, conforming document. See the Fedora 12 user guide [1], or pdf [2], and the source for that eg [3]. I think that you do need to sign a contributor license agreement before you can edit the fedoraproject wiki. This basically says that you won't post copyrighted material, and that you are making your contribution available as open content. One limitation of using fedora's wiki is you might not be able to directly link to troublesome, out of fedora, sites or packages. A first step would be to develop a table of contents in the wiki, to try to break the installation of audio tools into specific areas, and then break those tasks down into smaller tasks. eg. Working with MIDI and so on. [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/user-guide/f12/en-US/html/sect-User_Guide-Managing_software-Advanced_Yum.html [2] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide_-_Managing_Software David. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...
On 12/22/2009 09:15 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: On Mon 21 December 2009 10:46:51 am Rex Dieter wrote: I'd feel a bit uncomfortable without at least some testing and positive feedback. Once people try testing Rex's updated package, please provide feedback at Rex's link about it, eg what's working, not working about this build ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: packages requiring me to reboot - semi-off -topic response
On 12/17/2009 08:38 AM, Jon Masters wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:30 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: too. My own preference would be a more discriminating dialog that offers three possibilities: 'do nothing', 'bounce the service/application' and 'reboot'. Yup, +1 Bounce the application would be really cool for eg firefox, thunderbird, that continue to work, but some things sort of don't (like new popups dont open and so forth). In doing so the application would need to return to the identical locations, arrangements that it was bounced from. And really, the above shouldn't be difficult for a computer to do: - have window, pos,size, doc open, caret position and so on, even those pesky web forms with unsubmitted data and so on. Make it part of the freedesktop standards - an app forcibly closed or ?disappears shall reopen as if nothing changed ! (although firefox multi-tab and working out which tab not to reopen after a crash is a good game). Make open documents files etc, be always stored immediately on change with snapshots at each save to disk, few minutes of operation etc. Make it like paper, but actually better, you know: what is written on paper doesn't mysteriously disappear when an update or a power failure, or app crash occurs, nor does it disappear from where you left it. I think the above scenario for user apps would seem to be a reasonable goal. On the other hand, services are not so clear cut. If I'm an external user logged into the web service, filling a form, I don't expect even momentary downtime to cause me to lose information I'm entering, or corrupt a file I have open / editing on network share (though see the works better than paper description). In the first example, would it make sense for the web server to start all new processes using the new updated code, while existing users stay connected to the existing instance, until these timeout/logout and no user's connection is using the old code. When a reboot is really needed, a PK dialog could inform of the need, and ask when that could occur (do at 4:30 am tueday morning) ps: did gnome desktop regain the feature of autologin and rerun apps on desktop capability of pre f-10 ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS
On 12/13/2009 05:38 AM, Alan Evans wrote: I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like to keep the original OS intact and dual boot. My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that it had the option, but I was terrified to try it. Some would say partitioning is a process that always requires a backup, hence: - create a compressed backup of the new raw disc onto the old disk - run the resize during install - if it all goes foul, you have learnt how to create and use a backup. That said, I haven't seen anything go wrong with gparted / parted, well ever (in my memory, including expanding and shrinking an xp machine original ntfs drives, to fit linux). I quite often do the non-backed up version of messing with partitions on virtual machines without trouble. gparted indicates support for ntfs shrink. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: Gnome Menubar missing on multiple applications,
On 12/13/2009 08:56 AM, Wim ten Have wrote: Many applications that have dependencies towards seem all to have lost their title/window/dressing/top menu's. Could you post a screen shot somewhere (not the list), because I don't think I see what you describe ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
switching to vts in a virtualbox guest ?
I just installed a fedora 12 i386 guest on a fedora 12 i386 host. The virtualbox manual says the equivalent for ctrl-alt [backspace, delete, F1..F8 is to press the assigned Host Key (by default mine is right ctrl, along with just the bs,delete, F1. That doesn't actually work at the moment. Any ideas what's needed to get to a VT ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Delay measuring
On 12/10/2009 10:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:46 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: for a long time now firefox annoys me now and then with second-long delay when entering a new URL in the URL-bar. When was the first time you noticed that (ie what firefox verasion) ? I am pretty sure this is some kind of system resource it waits for or some other process. Is there any sane way to start an application and measure all those wait syscalls to see what resource causes this delay? Something like a strace wrapper script or so... I hope someone understands what I mean ;) Sounds like you might have the IPv6 issue other people have mentioned. See the list archive for how to turn it off. Could be. But I think it is that firefox now does a JSON lookup on the web, and while it waits for a response to load, it incorrectly pauses the UI. A wireshark packet capture would be enough to test that theory. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 05:43 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 11/26/2009 01:05 AM, David Timms wrote: On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? audacity-freeworld-1.3.7-0.6.1.beta.fc11.x86_64 I thought I had a patch that enables pulseaudio output and input in the f11 build, in which case you would see a pulse entry in both lists. Is there something amiss with pulseaudio on your machine ? eg is it running in ps aux|grep pulse -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Tester needed for Audacious
On 11/21/2009 09:20 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: I'm in search for somebody who can give me feedback about whether the following builds of the  audacious-plugins  package succeed or fail at playing Musepack (.mpc) audio files:  Fedora 12: audacious-plugins-2.1-18.fc12  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=141715 Works fine for me (i686).  Fedora 10: audacious-plugins-1.5.1-18.fc10  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=141711 Also works fine (x86_64). The mpc file I tested with was created with mppenc, with no parameters other than the source wav name. Perhaps the issue is encoding/compression parameter specific, or due to the particular compressor that made it ? ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: how to start with simple SDL programming?
On 11/17/2009 07:19 AM, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: 2009/11/16, Robert P. J. Dayrpj...@crashcourse.ca: having never done any SDL programming before (so be gentle), what would i need to do to get started in terms of loading framebuffer support for my first program? I'm just getting started with opengl using nehe's lessons [1], and a bit of help from an old FedoraForum post got me started. I haven't messed with SDL yet, but mention this in case it's good for a general intro to techniques etc. I think the source was originally targeted at visual studio on windows. but various people have submitted versions for a list of many different compilers and environments. [1] nehe.gamedev.net/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Plugging into Projectors
On 11/14/2009 02:29 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I am running F11 on a Dell Latitude D820. I am unable to connect to projectors except at ridiculously small screen resolutions. Running Windows on the same machine plugs into projectors easily. What can I do? - mention what actual resolutions work - F11 up2date - card (lspci), and driver is in use ? - resolution you are trying ? - does the system you are plugging into feed EDID back to your PC ? (most installed projection systems don't, only RGBHV are sent to proj, no returns). - are you on the VGA connector / input - if it's no EDID (try plugging cable straight into projector), it might be recognised else System Admin Display|Hardware|Monitor Type = ? Configure select either the matching display, or generic display of resolution the projector is capable of. Logout, ie make X restart, and then in System Preferences Display set up your monitor. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin
On 11/13/2009 05:19 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: Where do I find the open build servers in Fedora / RPMFusion? By open build (with openSUSE) you can create one or more projects on openSUSE's server and the server is used to compile the sources based on your configuration settings. If you mean rpm .spec files then yes it's similar. However, you can not be any random hacker/cracker of the street ;-) You create a .spec for the thing you want to package, and submit a review request. In time, one or more reviewers help you to knock the spec into a form where it meets the fedora / rpm fusion packaging guidelines. At this point, they also request that you perform pre-reviews of other packager's efforts. This is to show that you understand the process and guidelines (in your case, consider some other music packages - ie similar interest). At this stage an overseeing sponsor takes a look at your package Review request and decides if you have learnt enough to be accepted as a packager. It isn't that hard; but it is a little more difficult that extract, config, make, make install. The final result must: work on multiple architectures, be able to build from source, and fit with packaging guidelines which aim to stop packages stepping on each other's toes. Whilst the input of the data and the configuration of the project takes time their seems to be an advantage in that the different architectures can be compiled in one run. Yes, Fedora and RPM Fusion build requests do builds for multiple supported arch (i686, x86_64, ppc). There are other build servers for less commmon architectures like s390x and arm. In the case of Fedora you have to become a contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join and more specifically: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers I presume the process is similar on RPMFusion. In fact, once you have become a packager for Fedora, you need to create yourself a fas account in RPM Fusion, then submit your Review Request, mentioning that you are already a Fedora packager. Please query in your Review Request, and on an appropriate list when you need help. You might like to review both bugzilla.redhat.com and bugzilla.rpmfusion.org searching for music related packages, that you might be able to help review ... DaveT (now I've got GUI on an F12 rc install, I might have a chance at getting audacity to build and work out what's going wrong) ;-0 ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin
On 11/10/2009 09:45 AM, Jud Craft wrote: Hello all. I see on the internet that there is a utility to decode TNEF/(Microsoft Outlook)-type email attachments. The utility (library?) looks like its available in Fedora. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/search/ for tnef you'll see what is already packaged. I recently packaged tnef, which is a pure command line application. I added gnome and kde context menus so that if you receive a mail with a tnef attachment, you save the attachment, and then right click on the file and use open with extract tnef archive. The package has not yet completed review, but the spec, and source rpm are available on the review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522920 Any reviewers are welcome to help out by sorting out the final stages of the review. However, there is a separate Evolution plugin that appears to be upstream (since GNOME 2.12 [1]). This plugin doesn't seem to be available in Fedora. Are there any plans to make it available? 1. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271398 I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me. How about you ? Want to contribute to the Fedora community and learn a little a packaging software for a distro ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers
On 11/10/2009 09:40 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: I have two old servers Dual Pentium III 500Mhz and have just replaced two older single CPU Pentium III 500Mhz machines. I had FC4 and FC5 on the older servers. Now have F11 on the two newer machines. I would say the same for an old pentium II 366 notebook (512MB). The Fedora 3 or so that was around when it first received a linux distro was much snappier than F10 (the most recent one I tried). Things to think about: - if you are talking about the same machine, disk drive tiredness would have reduced the access speed that you can achieve, when r/w to disk. - fans may be worn, running slowly, and noisily, leading to poor cooling of components and temp sensors kicking in to reduce clock rates. - the kernel is general purpose, and aimed for the most common machine that it will get put on eg see stats: (and ram, cache sizes types speed). http://www.smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html - stack hardening / etc in libraries / compiled programs - security updates adding proper checking of eg received/entered strings etc - just more processing to be done (that should have been done in the original release, but was instead added over time as security analysis showed poor handling) - selinux (was it in and on, active in your older release) ? - defaulting to use of layered storage (ie lvm) in newer releases ? - audio - possibly biggest CPU killer is runtime audio dsp mixing (eg an old machine just passed audio data to the sound card, and it was attenuated there before output - might have been 1-2% cpu. same machine playing back audio now might used 30-50% cpu. - more stuff that instead of using fd's to pass information, instead using other methods like dbus calls with xml like data to encode then decode. - more stuff relying on storage/retrieval of information from inefficient storage formats like xml - more web sites assuming you have fast CPU, infinite bandwidth, and infinite monthly download limits, leading to sites: - filled with far too many ads (firefox adblock) - far to much active content like flash (flashblock) - far too many stat, counting, tracking connections to make - familiarity with faster machines changing your perceptions of speed. - Fedora joining of Fedora and Extras, increasing the size of metadata dl needed for updates etc. (although with better caching methods, and some optimized parsing). If we consider moore's law saying we'll get a doubling of CPU performance every 18 months, the corollary must be we'll bloat our os and applications to at least exceed the above as operational requirements; end result is actual decline in capability over time... If you have two identical machines: you might be in the best position to do direct A-B comparisons of same hardware, different OS. Get the stopwatch out, what type of things take longer/shorter ? I am sure others can think of more excuses why same machine would be slower with newer OS. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin
On 11/10/2009 11:56 PM, Jud Craft wrote: I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me. I meant non-evolution user, it isn't ;-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers
On 11/11/2009 04:54 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Computer users nightmare number 9: Part way through the installation process, a message pops up, You're going to need a bigger boat Nice way of putting it! Ack ;-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I launch qgis - segfault
On 11/09/2009 05:48 AM, Beartooth wrote: Is there a way to be notified when the bug is squashed? Or to check whether it's still in F12? I'll start upgrading a week or two after the release. You might like to keep a bookmark to: http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/qgis Since you can reproduce the bug, why not add yourself as cc to the bugzilla bug. Then when anyone makes a comment on the bug, or a release is built for testing, or pushed to updates-released, you will get an email. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin
On 11/08/2009 09:08 PM, Simon Lewis wrote: Assuming that the user does and will install packages from all 3 repos (Fedora, RPMFusion and PlanetCCRMA) then there are in fact only 2 differences between the standard fedora spin and a studio type spin: Wait, firstly the spin couldn't be hosted at Fedora if it came with rpmfusion (or ccrma) repo enabled or with items that are not in Fedora (ie in rpmfusion or ccrma). I would prefer to see as many packages as possible in the Fedora and RPMFusion repos Sounds like we have a volunteer for continuing the effort to tidy up ccrma packages to fit with fedora, or failing that rpm fusion. The packages still need third party licensing examination, review requests, and resolving problems. We have a list, and Orcan and myself eg picked up a few, but there is a non-trivial process to be followed; manpower is welcome... Actually, isn't a spin really a live cd ? Would having the low level capability active, and apps installed provide anything like a realistic scenario for budding musicians, when apps need to be loaded from a livecd image ? It would also be unclear how many useful things we could fit in a CD size image (ie by expelling games|graphics|internet (most)|office) ? Cheers, DaveT. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
On 11/07/2009 05:26 PM, Tom H wrote: If it is me? Scratching my head, then I'll take a pill and go to sleep and forget that all of this is happening :) Are you on thunderbird, F11 ? Do you sort by thread on the mailing list traffic ? Thunderbird 3 changed to sorting by date order based on the most recent message that comes to a thread (very annoying). It used to always be based on the oldest message in each thread to provide the thread sort order. I thought it was a bug: (and it should at least be configurable). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495946 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
pdf viewer wont zoom in enough
Wondering if anyone is having trouble reading pdf files. Document Viewer. Using poppler 0.10.7 (cairo), opens the pdf OK, but even at the largest zoom (400%), the page is shown at less than the full height of the screen, making it real hard to read it. What's with that ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NMI interrupt received
On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Jatin K wrote: On 11/02/2009 12:02 PM, pandi k wrote: Hi All, We are using Fedora Core 7 with 2.6.21 kernel and facing a issue in booting. Do you have the chance to use a newer version of Fedora, like 10 or 11 ? Remember that there have been no updates for F7 for some years now. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pdf viewer wont zoom in enough
On 11/03/2009 01:42 AM, Andras Simon wrote: On 11/2/09, David Timmsdti...@iinet.net.au wrote: Wondering if anyone is having trouble reading pdf files. Document Viewer. Using poppler 0.10.7 (cairo), opens the pdf OK, but even at the largest zoom (400%), the page is shown at less than the full height of the screen, making it real hard to read it. What's with that ? Can't the pdf file itself be the culprit? Possibly, I don't know enough about it. Did you try other pdf-viewers? Yes, xpdf can zoom in appropriately to be able to read the pages. I was guessing that somehow a setting of dots per inch on my screen is out of kilter, or trouble with fonts, or ? Conversely, all existing pdfs that are on my machine have this problem (with Doc Viewer). DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to set VNC display resolution on F11?
On 10/29/2009 04:32 PM, Comcast Mail wrote: I just installed F11 on an AMD X2 5600+ machine with 4GB and an integrated video system, 9100M, to experiment with it. I'm using the 32 bit OS for right now since I don't want to deal with issues mixing 32 and 64 bits apps and libraries together on one machine. Are you talking vnc server or client ? I think the server sets the sizes of the clients that connect. I tried to setup VNC on the above machine. I used the exact same procedure as on another machine I have running F10. The setup on F11, which mostly works, except for the remote display resolution. It seems whatever I set in the etc/sysconfig/vncserver file is ignored by the Perhaps post the (non-comment) contents of said file ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Phoronix Test suite - like to create an updated package ?
On 10/29/2009 04:40 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Currently there is a Phoronix Test Suite version 2.2 beta. Even if it is in beta it is much more usable than current version that is in Fedora repository because the version that is in Fedora repos it so obsolete that most of test suites even fail to download and because of that is is not too useful :( Usually, a maintainer should keep a package at the same version for the life a a fedora release, unless clear fixes to bugs or security problems are found. Beta releases would typically be put into rawhide (the coming release), so that they can get extended testing along with other packages that make up that F release. There is a RFE request for update one month old but it got no reply from package maintainer :( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526852 Which quite possibly means they have no time to work on an updated package. Given it is something you use, you could checkout the package source, update it, build it, and test it. Once you have it working, attach the patch to the spec etc to the bug. If you need help getting started on such a path, please reply here... DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
On 10/26/2009 10:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:57:18 David Timms wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you what to your CPU and kernel combination has. [r...@yoda ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz stepping: 13 cpu MHz : 1500.000 cache size : 2048 KB baby cache! flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 2992.47 OK, consider me surprised;-) mine (core2duo 2GHz) says: ... wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 3989.84 So those must be the failed vt tests core2duos that if they were back in pentium III/IV days would get marketed as Celeron ? Bad luck about that. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating Fedora 11 to FC12 beta!
On 10/27/2009 11:10 PM, Pauls Lists wrote: Hi All, Can I update my current FC11 to FC12 without having to wipe the disk and install from scratch again?. I would just like to be able to download the necessary kernels and files and upgrade rather than having to reinstall completely. Have you heard about preupgrade ? Description : preupgrade prepares your Fedora system for an upgrade to the next version by examining your system, downloading all the files needed for the upgrade, and then setting up your system to perform the upgrade after rebooting. Note that depending upon your current language settings, you probably want to do this with preupgrade currently in updates-testing, by using the command in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527552#c10 Then type preupgrade, and choose the x show me more, and select rawhide. Let us know how you go. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe
On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong. It seems that the build logs are no longer available ? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1504772 eg for: x86_64 (red) https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1516629 And the other 3x orange ones appear to mean cancelled, is that correct ? Wonder whether they were cancelled manually (ie the whole rebuild) ? Or did the fail on one arch trigger the cancels ? Anyway, a scratch build (without change) succeeds: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1766626 Should I bump and rebuild, or just re-request the same build ? Should I request it to be in F-12 ? (the i586.f11 one that is in f-12 beta (rawhide) works OK). DaveT. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
On 10/26/2009 08:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: I wish to share my first hands-on experience with qemu, compare it to vmware player, and (since I'm highly disappointed with the performance difference) ask is there anything that can be done configuration-wise to improve the user experience under qemu. For comparison, try yum install akmod-VirtualBox-OSE from rpm fusion. (1) Windows XP guest under qemu appears to be an order-of-magnitude slower than equivalent vmware guest. I haven't measured precisely, but by counting the seconds for the same operation (open a window or such), qemu appears to be roughly 10 times slower! Why is it *that* bad? Usually the guest is improved by running a vm specific set of tools, eg that does mouse/keyboard/clipboard/network share/clock/timing improvements under that particular vm host Did you install that guest from scratch ? (2) When resizing the guest console window, qemu rescales the guest output, while vmware resizes guest screen resolution to match the window size. The latter looks far more pretty. Part of tools. If you don't have vmware-tools installed, you don't get this. Probably similar for qemu ? ... Also, I think I should mention that my processor does not have the vmx bit, I have no option in the host bios to enable it, so I guess both qemu and vmware work in all-software emulation. But that doesn't explain such a big difference in performance. Btw, this is all on Intel Core 2 Duo 1.5 GHz, 2GB of ram, each guest has one processor and 512 MB ram allocated. They don't run simultaneously, of course. I didn't notice any memory swapping activity. cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you what to your CPU and kernel combination has. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#Hardware_support I would be surprised if the duo doesn't have vt support. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] wishlist Fedora multimedia - ProjectX
On 10/25/2009 02:38 AM, Simon Lewis wrote: Hello Please add ProjectX (an essential mpeg2 ts conversion tool) to the standard fedora repositories. see http://www.lucike.info/page_projectx.htm mpeg2 is a patented, licensed codec, that can't be included in Fedora. You might like to develop a package for inclusion in RPM Fusion [1]; we are always looking for more package maintainers, and there are a lot of knowledgeable people around to help you on the process, which is the same as for Fedora [2]. [1] http://rpmfusion.org/Contributors [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers Cheers, DaveT. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Where is VNC, FC11 - ask yum!
On 10/24/2009 05:25 AM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: # yum search vnc and even: yum search vnc server this will provide a list that matches both search terms first, then a list for each search term individually (which does take a bit of scrolling back through). DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB link to phone doesn't work in FC11
On 10/17/2009 01:40 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: I cannot connect my Samsung phone using USB, although it still works with my FC10 based desktop computer. When I try, I get the following errors in /var/log/messages. The system has all updates. Anyone got any ideas how I can fix this? Is the phone set for usb syncing or usb memory ? As I understand it, it can only be one of the above (wm6). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bournal reviews please - keypassx
On 10/17/2009 03:34 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: I use revelation for storing encrypted data like that. It is very simple and easy to use. Just yum install revelation. I use revelation as well. It's perhaps not as good for storing random personal data, but for passwords, login info, credit cards, ans such, it is very convenient. It can also import and export its data in numerous formats so if you ever needed to switch to another password manager it should be possible. keepassx is another open source encrypted info store, with both linux and windows apps. Useful for passwords etc, but has notes fields as well. It can be secured with both a master pass and / or a generated token (that you can store on a keyring usb flash drive). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recommendations for choosing the Python GUI packages?
On 10/05/2009 11:29 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: What python GUI packages are recommended for developing Fedora/Linux applications and is the most portable? wxWidgets for crossplatform (linux, mac, windows), natively compiled code. wxGlade is a wxWidgets gui designer. There are language bindings for c++ and python. Take a look at audacity to see the sort of UI that can be built. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wmii window manager
On 10/03/2009 07:12 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged for Fedora? Not that I can see for f11 or rawhide. Would you like to begin packaging it ? DaveT. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Questionable Status
On 09/24/2009 02:05 AM, Frank Cox wrote: I haven't seen anything about SMART on any of my Fedora desktops; what am I missing? You are missing disks with faults ;-) It's a good thing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing new graphics card FIXED
On 09/28/2009 09:09 AM, Gerhard Magnus wrote: (If this question doesn't have a short answer maybe someone could suggest a webpage to look at) Perhaps have a lok at the nvidia config page at rpmfusion (where you are getting the rpm packaged version of the kernel modules driver from. http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia http://rpmfusion.org/Package theb the three kmod/nvidia links. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
adding/using a mimetype that matches every file ?
Hi I want to add the ability to call up some command line apps from nautilus, eg right click any file, a menu item named open in ghex2 should appear, which is programmed to run a small script with certain parameters, or directly. Particular ones are any file for md5sum, sha1sum etc, leaving a result window open for review. Also, would like an any text file one to point to gedit, eg so I can edit backup~ files, and a heap of others where mime detection is screwed eg- text config file is considered to be a cisco vpn setting, with no editor assigned. Did I mention I want to do this on gmome/nautilus (I can already do it in kde/dolphin, but don't really use that) ? Cheers, David Timms. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A couple of DRAM memory stick questions ??
On 09/28/2009 01:07 AM, William Case wrote: I have been re-reading some notes I have made on how DRAM works. As a result I have a couple of unanswered questions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_random_access_memory has some pretty pictures, surely you found/searched that already ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: solved: combining image files into a pdf
On 09/26/2009 12:52 AM, David Timms wrote: OK, eventually got this working in a way where the final output was both free of weird colour tints (white had become pink), and a reasonably small file size: for each jpg image: (losslessly rotate the jpg so that the text is the correct way up): - jpegtran -verbose -rotate 270 orginal.pN.jpg -outfile rotated.pN.jpg (generate a pdf for each rotated jpg): - convert rotated.pN.jpg rotated.pN.pdf for the png images: - gimp open, transform -90degrees, reduce colours, saveas jpg - convert to pdf as for jpg for the tif images: - gimp open, transform -90degrees, select rectangle, delete or fill to get rid of blotches in the scans, save tiff group 4 fax. combine: - pdfshuffler gui, import folder of single page pdf files - export as single pdf. test: in doc viewer, thank the list for tips on getting this done ;-) DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: solved: combining image files into a pdf
On 09/27/2009 12:25 AM, David Timms wrote: Oops, missed a step: for the tif images: - gimp open, transform -90degrees, select rectangle, delete or fill to get rid of blotches in the scans, save tiff group 4 fax. (convert the tiff to pdf): tiff2pdf -p A4 rotated.pN.tif -o rotated.pN.pdf So the final step is a gui app to import all those pdfs, as before. Q.E.D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do you clear a botched kernel on a PPC system?
On 09/26/2009 08:27 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I find myself in another nice catch 22. ... So I'm having a hard time with things today. Can someone put me out of my misery? Yeah, mate, take that .22 above and... No seriously: Without having a ppc machine, I imagine that you can hit escape or any key during boot, so that you get the boot loader's option menu, and move the cursor to the previous kernel entry, hit enter... As long as the older working kernel is still installed, it should be enough to yum remove kernel.specific.bad.version, and the rpm should take care of setting the previous versions item as the one to boot. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: combining image files into a pdf
On 09/25/2009 02:11 AM, Jay Mistry wrote: xsane can do this- you have to start (create) a multi-page project (it's there in the menus somewhere). After you are finished scanning I think you missed the bit where the scanning is already complete, with file types as mentioned above. I don't have a scanner, and the scanner is really an office machine that emails me separate tiff/jpg/png images when it decides what the best type will be, eg photojpeg, color text, line drwaingspng, b/w texttiff (2 color, fax like). I don't get the choice of the file types. Seems like the only way is to use other tools to convert into another format first, and then output that to pdf, then combine those into a single pdf. That's just a little bit painful (No success after many hours of different attempts, and boring to boot). An alternate is 'pdfsam'. I'll take a look. Also, thanks to all the responders, for some tips, which so far seem to be summarized as no such gui tool. Thanks all, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
combining image files into a pdf
Hi, I have image files of type: - png - tif (b/w) - fax like - jpg that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document. I've tried a few ways to achieve this, with limited results: - gscan2pdf: all png pages have a strong purple tint. - tiff2pdf: works for the tiff files - pdfedit: needs a pdf to start with, so not much help - pdf chain: uses pdftk to do manipulations; generates 0 byte pdf, output dialog seems to hang. - oopresentation/draw: doesn't like the tif files. and a few attempts with command line tools. I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf. I would like to know if Fedora has such software already packaged, or another linux app that could perform this ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How much memory do I have?
On 09/21/2009 02:01 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: I just upgraded my MB from 1 to 4Gig of ram. The relevant part of lshw is below. So I saw that and then I though I was ok. Then I went and did a cat of /proc/meminfo It says: [r...@saturn proc]# cat meminfo MemTotal: 3114472 kB Without Physical Address Extensions (PAE) on i686, the kernel wont be able to access more than about 3.2GB memory. what do you have running: uname -a -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fedora-legal-list] License of included source in tnef with Unicode license
Hi, review request [1] for the tnef archive extractor, we request an analysis of the license of the included ConvertUTF.c source, which Jason has copied into the review request. It sort of says that the UTF conversion code can be freely used, as long as it used to create products supporting the UTF standard (yeah, ?). I'm guessing it would be no help in writing a printer driver or first person shooter... Is this license free enough for Fedora ? Cheers, DaveT. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522920 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522920#c2 ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
unintentional (re-)install of nexuiz game
Hi, I don't remember installing nexuiz, nexuiz-data, at all. I noticed that it was a 800MB hit on my disk, and removed it yesterday. A yum update later, and both have been re-installed. Jul 04 00:27:31 Installed: nexuiz-data-2.5-1.fc11.noarch Jul 04 00:27:36 Installed: nexuiz-2.5-1.fc11.i586 Sep 12 07:50:13 Erased: nexuiz Sep 12 07:50:28 Erased: nexuiz-data Sep 13 00:18:31 Installed: nexuiz-data-2.5-1.fc11.noarch Sep 13 00:18:31 Installed: nexuiz-2.5-1.fc11.i586 Any ideas ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [solved] unintentional (re-)install of nexuiz game
On 09/13/2009 08:50 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: If it's reproducible like that, what do you get if you remove them and take a close look at the full yum update output? * slaps forehead ... ;-) hadn't thought it would be repeatable. Anyway, yum remove the pair again, and tried a yum -d 10 update, but it didn't find any updates. My mistake, it suddenly came back to me when I reviewed my crontab, where I did actually choose to install nexiuz, but overnight, some months back. Then was on vacation for a month and forgot all about it. Sorry for the noise. Cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yumex: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: fedora
On 09/13/2009 07:23 PM, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji wrote: 2009/9/13 Alan Evansame.fed...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji wrote: What could be the issue? It is on Fedora 10. I presume you can otherwise use the network -- DNS working, etc. So did you try yum clean all? I think you can even do it from one of the menus in yumex. Did that, no luck. Thanks, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji, BE IT, India Is yum OK ? Result from yum -d 10 whatever could be helpful. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 11 kernel installation question
On 09/12/2009 07:30 AM, Michael Mueller wrote: by default the kernel-PAE is loaded and i need the non-PAE kernel loaded; i've been using yum to remove the PAE version and install the non-PAE; a problem arose today when i noticed that while building 6 boxes, the mirrored repos have changed; i was getting 2.6.29 kernels and now i'm getting 2.6.30; this change caused a problem in a compiled application; it also means my 6 servers are slightly different is it possible to have the installer use the non-PAE kernel on my CDs instead of the PAE kernel? this would be the best solution imo Should be, if you are using kickstart to build the servers. You can also config yum to not update particular packages - with risk of security patches leaving your machine less secure. There are som versionlock and so forth yum plugins. Ideally, you would create an rpm package for your application. In the spec Require a specific kernel version. Run yum update with --skip-broken, so that kernel updates that would stop the app working. When you know the require package (kernel is updated), bump and rebuild the rpm, makine it available (createrepo) in a local repo, and have your local repo configured on all the machines. How's that ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system unbootable after online upgrade to Fedora 11
On 09/06/2009 02:09 AM, Simon Tierney wrote: Help, please, I recently upgraded online from F10 to F11 Can you summarize what commands/process you used, it will make it easier to fault find ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: For hardware engineer types re: sound controlers and/or codec chips ??
On 09/06/2009 03:36 AM, William Case wrote: Where is the sound data kept immediately on arrival at the sound card? You might find the following description of how modern pulseaudio feeds audio data around to be relevant: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pulse-glitch-free.html DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
howto making rescue mode available from grub prompt with install.img ?
Hi, I want to config grub so that I have a rescue mode entry. I can do this with the following in /boot/grub/grub.conf: = title Fedora 11 Rescue from disk root (hd2,0) # kernel /vmlinuz rescue stage2=hd:/dev/sda1:/ kernel /vmlinuz rescue lang=en_AU keymap=us repo=hd:/dev/sdc5:/ stage2=hd:/dev/sda1:/images initrd /initrd.img = where the vmlinuz and initrd.img are from the dvd/images/pxeboot/ directory. So the parameters mean [1]: - start rescue mode - use English language - use US keyboard - install from the iso repo from the hard disk - use the stage2 image at location. This works, but requires the complete DVD iso to be present at the repo= place, and I think that the stage2 parameter is being ignored. The help suggests that only stage2= should be required, but I have tried a few different versions of specifying it's location on the hard disk with no success; with the repo= added it works OK. What am I missing ? DaveT. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda_Boot_Options -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
meeting minutes posts - line / wordwrap in
Hi, what would be the best location to list an issue with the meeting minutes, where the entries overflow the width of the user's screen ? DaveT. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Files corrupt on copy
On 06/28/2009 04:58 AM, Andy Campbell wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:16:47 -0700, Peter J. Stieber wrote: Hmm always out by 1 ... Would it be worth using badblocks to perform the destructive (to your data - move / backup first) test on the partition you are having trouble with ? Does smartctl show any internal drive problems ? Does your testing suggest that the writing or reading or both might be introducing the errors ? (ie if you copy a file and read it 100x, does it always fail ? and so forth) Might temperature associated with continued access for a large file contribute ? Is it only when copy within the one file system ? DaveT (the curious). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 scp stalls - rsync command
On 06/28/2009 02:26 AM, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 16:18 +, Beartooth TpBkR wrote: I've been using scp to transfer data and settings around from one machine on my LAN to another. (I know, I should use rsync instead; I hope to get started learning it one of these days. Meanwhile, scp is the tool to hand.) At the moment, I'm in process of copying my home directory (some 9.2 GB) from my #1 (F10) machine to one already upgraded to F11. But the scp has stopped, after doing 23% of a .jar file, saying stalled. What, if anything, can I do to make scp resume from where it left off?? I don't believe that you can with scp. You can always use a hammer to take the cap off the top of a beer bottle but that doesn't mean that it is the best tool for the job. You already know that rsync is a better tool for this purpose. And it is fairly easy: rsync -a sourceip:/sourcefolder/ destip:/destfolder/ You will have already accepted the sshkey if your are successfully using scp. The way I like to do it: time rsync --progress --stats -az 192.168.32.16:/home/myname/ 192.168.32.17:/home/myname/ So, not so hard, really. This is how I effectively move the files: 1. rsync as above 2. rsync as above with -azc (to cause recheck of checksum comparison (not just file/size/times), confirms no problems with written data. 3. rsync --remove-source-files You will probably have trouble if the myname user is logged in on either machine when you are trying this. Also, if the UID/GID are different between machines you might have a to sort that out. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: F11 anaconda doesn't see my hard drives
On 06/28/2009 11:10 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: 4) Anaconda sees neither the softraid partitions, nor the actual underlying /dev/sd? devices at all. When you say softraid, you mean linux software raid, rather than bios raid or hardware raid ? Maybe it is related to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Kickstart_installations_cannot_reuse_existing_RAID_arrays DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Managing .rpmnew files?
On 05/06/09 15:56, Michael Rohan wrote: Is there a standard way to manage the .rpmnew files created on yum update? It would seem the updates should be merged into the locally modified files when appropriate My suggestion is to yum install meld, then meld /etc/something.rpmnew /etc/something This way you can see any notes that might be in the rpmnew file about how to set new parameters, etc, and graphically pull those new elements into your existing config file. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11
On 09/06/09 10:28, Chris wrote: What are the chances that the New Zealand mirror actually has the F11 release as of right now? High, since most tier 0/1 mirrors need to have it ahead of time, so that lower level mirrors can get synced before the release announcement. It shows it as the release unlike the other mirrors that show F11 under Test etc. An earlier release candidate did go to mirrors, before being pulled for the correct content. You won't be able to tell for sure until the master mirror CHECKSUM file becomes available. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 (Rawhide) and Firefox
On 08/06/09 00:11, Tim and Alison Bentley wrote: Is anyone having problems with FireFox 3.5 Beta 4 having upgraded to Rawhide? No. But if you did it this weekend, then you may have been upgraded to the real rawhide, ie a heap of pending changes that had been held back while F11 was finalized (ie you could be past F11) ? btw, if you start firefox from a terminal prompt, are any error messages printed in the terminal window when things go askew ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: multi-media packages/gcc/latest CPU optimizations
On 31/05/09 08:51, RS wrote: I'd like to understand how some of the multi-media packages are compiled for distros to make maximum effective use of the latest CPU features (SSE4,multi-core,large L2/L3 caches etc) You can take a look at the specs that are used to compile and package the apps eg: (since the apps you mention aren't in Fedora) http://cvs.rpmfusion.org/viewvc/rpms/?root=free Then you might need to read the make files for each app you are interested in, to see what compiler options are passed. Or read an rpmbuild log, to see which parameters are passed to the compiler: http://buildsys.rpmfusion.org/plague-results/ I understand pkgs are compiled assuming i386 (or i686?) to cover the vast majority of PC's out there. In Fedora 11, the minimum CPU is i586. For packages like vlc,mplayer Uses the ffmpeg library ,dvd::rip Rip speed is about drive/bus speed. Format conversion, and decode recompression are about the library used (ffmpeg ?) Dominic has played with the flags a bit, you might find some interesting reading in the RPM Fusion mailing list archives. ? are there specific GCC/runtime optimizations that yield real world performance. Do you mean real-world performance improvements ? That don't have other side affects ? Remember that selinux is watching over executable actions, and gcc hardening and packaging compilation requirements relating to required option flags also come into play. Fedora uses certain flags to ensure that correct debuginfo is produced, and to avoid bugs introduced due to excessive optimization. ? I have a bunch of PC's at home (Phenom II X4, Core 2 Quad and a new Core i7 that is being Assuming you use an x86_64 kernel and packages, then they are optimised for the earliest model in the group / the most common processors found. If you look at a system usage point of view (eg gkrellm) where you can see CPUs, disks/partition and network use at once, what seems to be the bottleneck ? Perhaps lack of multi-threaded apps ? Unfortunately, I believe pulseaudio to waste CPU power, eg on an older athlon xp 2000, playing mp3 files takes about 40-45% CPU; this doesn't leave much for mpeg2 decoding of a video. This only took 5% CPU before pulseaudio. That should get some opinions started. Cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] LMMS
On 24/05/09 23:29, Michael Schwendt wrote: ... Michael, I wondered if you need to manually edit the reply to address so that a normal reply to fedora-music-list is sent back to the list. It seems that I do. Cheers. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Fedora 10 Installation: Hangs at *Disabling IRQ #9*
On 20/05/09 10:11, Yang Yang Hu wrote: The live CD doesn't work. Instead, at boot, I get *irq 9: nobody cared* and the boot screen recommends I try booting with the *irqpoll* parameter. But how do I pass this parameter? At the screen where you boot the installer or where you choose to run the live cd, you can press [tab]. This lets you append a kernel parameter: like: irqpoll acpi=off noapic lapic acpi=off noapic irqpoll then hit [enter] DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora as a Virtual System?
On 20/05/09 21:49, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Edwin Tan wrote: You mean you running Fedora on vmware on win xp based? Maybe on a CenOS Base. with KVM? In any case you won't get as good a performance as the physical hardware, especially in the 3d graphics department. The type of virtualization matters, as does the host and guest operating system, with one type able to 'directly' pass specific physical devices through to a single guest machine. You would have found: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq#head-fcb85a149da66907086cc8ba4f0793ad01769b92 The software=operating system on the guest thinks that it is running on real generic hardware, although it would usually be set up to use an X vmware mouse and display driver. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NAT routing problems with f11
On 10/05/09 21:04, Clemens Eisserer wrote: 2009/5/9 Clemens Eissererlinuxhi...@gmail.com: I have I server which routes a private network to the internet through ppp. All I had to do on Fedora-8 was: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.1 echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE Is the firewall active ? iptables --list Is the ppp connection active, or do you need to dial it ? However with Fedora-11 this doesn't work anymore. Packes simply are not forewarded anymore. Is that what a packet sniffer (wireshark) tells you ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: digital tv on Fedora guide needs review.
On 07/05/09 04:13, Rick Stevens wrote: Mick M. wrote: I was trying to depmod pvrusb2, and insmod pvrusb2. I could go to /lib/modules and drill down and find the module. But it would not load. Try cd /lib/modules/`uname -r` and verify there's a modules.dep file. If not, then modules won't load and you should find out why those are being wiped. You can recreate it by depmod -a. I wonder if that is what happened in Mick's case (I'm sure he'll get back eventually). Meanwhile, I made a setup guide in the fedora project wiki for digital tv: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidTimms/DVB It needs a bit of work to expand out some specific app usage examples, if you have a fedoraproject account, and can see some errors or improvements, please go ahead and make them. Although, if the info is especially device specific, or would over complicate the guide then it might be better to become a reference link into a separate file. A things that can go wrong page could be useful, if you can think of items that you have come across while getting Digital Tele going on your Fedora box. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dell Vostro 1510 - sound only gives clicks on the speakers
On 15/05/09 20:06, Gary Stainburn wrote: Still slowly working through setting up my Dell Vostro 1510 with Fedora 10. When was it first released ? Can you find it in the smolts.org hardware database, and has anyone marked it as works, doesn't, need config ? Also try the linuxquestions site's hardware database to see if the same machine's sound works in linux in general. The general chip type is known to work, but it's possible the specific Dell hardware config/bios might need specific workarounds. 1) I don't actually get any sound out. All I get is clicking on the speakers. system-config-sound doesn't appear to exist any more, and I don't really know where to look next. Run alsa-info, and at the end of the report, let it paste your audio config to the alsa web site, and finally paste the link it provides back here. It looks like Linux actually things that everything is working as I cannot find and errors anywhere. The above log will be helpful. Try the following in gnome-terminal: $ pavucontrol then select the playback tab. $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav as you play the wav file, a new element is added to the pulseaudio mixer, and it's level graph should flicker around, with the sound that is produced. If that worked, then you might need to unmute channels, or adjust the volume levels up on the on pavucontrol (both the item you are playing back, and the output. If still no go, you might need to try the alsamixer and or alsaunmute, which could make a difference, if PA's mapping is not correct for your setup. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-11 No sound - can you file a bug.
On 19/05/09 20:52, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Have a look in alsamixer with the command below, and look for anything muted, or sliders down at zero. alsamixer -D hw:0 That was the one. two or three sliders were at zero. Frank, I would like to request that you create a bugzilla.redhat.com bug for this (check for an existing bug for your hardware first). Run alsa-info, allow it to paste your audio config to the alsa web site, and then copy the URL it provides in the bug report. Include which fader(s) and or mute you had to adjust, so that sound worked. The audio devel guys have a way to determine which mixer parts should be used by default, and it seems it either does not have a config for your hardware, or the config might be incorrect. There might even be time to get it into the F11 release... and hence not have people have to ask questions like yours and get a workaround. It is supposed to work without user intervention; you can help ! Cheers. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 Installation: Hangs at *Disabling IRQ #9*
On 20/05/09 08:03, Yang Yang Hu wrote: I'm currently running a Windows Vista machine, and I'm trying to install 64-bit Fedora 10 to dual boot. I run into my problem after I select the *Install* option from the Fedora welcome screen, as the installer tries to load but then stops at *Disabling IRQ #9*. Is that before or after VT switch becomes possible ? (ctrl-alt-f2) It continues to stall until the computer overheats, and while it hangs, the disk does not do work. Is this a common bug in the Fedora 10 installer? No. It is probably hardware specific. F10 install worked well for most users. It would be good to see a smolt hardware profile for the machine; you could do this by trying an F10 live cd, and running smolt-sendprofile when that is running (if it works). How can I fix this? See if you can find a matching bug in bugzilla.redhat.com. There might be a kernel installer parameter like noapic etc that can workaround the issue. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: deltaisos for F11?
On 17/05/09 11:49, Andre Robatino wrote: Are there any plans for deltaisos for F10-F11 to be available at release time? No idea on that. I wrote a python program that can be used to construct an iso based on a isoinfo dump of the iso you are after (usually about 200kB). You then tell the program where you have content that is on the new iso, this could be individual rpms from the rawhide repo (if you have keepcache=1), or from an earlier iso (preferably the most recent). It then inserts each of the files into an iso image. The final step is to either use rsync against a full image (more efficient eg 70% done to start with), or the bittorent stream, pointing the output to the iso that the program created, so that it checks and fills in the missing bits (40-50% done to start with; this is because torrent has minimum 256kB blocks, that can cover multiple files). You'll find it in the archives of this list, or I can report if anyone is interested. NB: someone has to have the real full copy and run isoinfo on it for it to be of any use. Cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
On 15/05/09 05:05, William M. Quarles wrote: TheOther wrote: David, or Fernando, or ANYBODY else out there, do you have any idea why this isn't working for me? Something smells funny about Pulseaudio, but I don't know enough about it to be able to say why. Hi William, I've been across the other side of the country this past week; it seems you have been persevering, good to see. You can check the PlanetCCRMA archives to see my thoughts and experiences with PulseAudio. Without me actually reviewing the planet archives, this might be summarized as: People interested in real-time, production quality audio recording, manipulation and playback are probably better to use the jack-audio-connection-kit toolkit based apps, and real-time patched kernel from planet ccrma. Pulseaudio has other goals in mind, which in some way conflict with the purist way. Sounds good to me, I don't even know what PulseAudio does other than it kept Rhythmbox from working when I first installed Fedora 10 on a computer. But what dependencies will I be breaking? If you decide to go down the remove pulseaudio route, use yum to erase the bits you are thinking of doing. Then if something unexpected occurs, you can read the /var/log/yum*.log to remind you of the packages that you removed. At least doing that should lead you to determine whether pulseaudio is adding to your troubles. Without PA, all apps need to be pointed at alsa (I think). If you want to see what is going on at the pulseaudio level, it is usually suggested to pulseaudio -k, then pulseaudio -vvv to start the daemon in verbose mode. I have just upgraded my F10 i386 machine to F11 preview, and haven't yet done any audio testing on it. DaveT. ps. it's sort of poor list etiquete to set the reply to address of mail to lists to yourself only. If you are willing to put your queries in public, it makes sense that all readers of the list should get replies to your thread. So I adjust the to back to f-m-l and cc yourself. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
On 17/05/09 07:10, William M. Quarles wrote: David Timms wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about, and I didn't change anything having to do with reply-to settings. I use Gmane to for all of my lists, so everything I send to a Gmane newsgroup gets sent to all mailing list members no matter what. All I'm saying is that hitting reply to any other message sent to fedora*-lists generates a message of the kind: to: fedora*-list, and therefore all lists members will see the responses, and threaded mail readers (like thunderbird) make it easy to follow a thread. But if I do that with the messages that you send, thunderbird only: to: you But looking at other fedora-music-list messages, this seems to be a problem with just the music list, and I am querying the list admin since it seems the issue might lie there. I guess that is why we are seeing some messages twice, and the message not being properly threaded, as people try to workaround the lack of inserted reply-to field. Thanks for your feedback, William. I have been sending all of my replies to both the Planet CCRMA list and the Fedora Music list I would suggest if you are looking for the pro audio setup, the CCRMA lists are probably the right place to be subscribed. If it's really the more basic stuff you are after, then fedora-list will surely get you more responses. DaveT. ps. Since I'm now on F11 preview/rawhide, my audio is kinda dumbed down to the point of difficulty - I have an inbuilt sound card (that is noisy), and a soundblaster (live) that is quiet. I no longer get easy access to the volume control for the live card, neither do I get mixer or selection points for the card at all. As many mentioned on Fedora devel list, unless you are a default, simple setup user, these new features are rather a downgrade. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Video Capture Software
David Timms wrote: Look at videodog, kino, mlt (in RPM Fusion RSN ?) Also cinelerra http://cinelerra.org/ Currently in review at https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118 But kwizart has it in kwizart repos: http://rpms.kwizart.net/fedora/10/i386/repoview/applications.multimedia.group.html DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No modules get loaded
Mick M. wrote: Hello; I have F10, the two latest kernels. I did a insmod pvrusb2, and a depmod pvrusb2, under both kernels. Now I do not have any modulles loaded at boot. lsmod produces no output ? modprobe.conf is empty. I think most module load is triggered through (udev/hal) rules these days; my modprobe.conf only has: alias eth0 forcedeth #nforce alias scsi_hostadapter pata_amd #pci-sata card install ipv6 /bin/true #kill ipv6 options snd cards_limit=8 # ? , but I get a lot of modules loaded by the time I have a running desktop $ lsmod|wc 56 2002536 The man says modprobe is the way nowadays, along with rmmod. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wireless speed drops
Georgi Hristozov wrote: I'm having an odd problem with Fedora 10. I'm using the x86 version (fully updated) on Toshiba Satellite A200. My network card is Intel 3945ABG and I'm using 802.11g with WPA. After a few minutes with this maximum speed of my home network (20-23MBps), it suddenly drops to values around 1MBps and doesn't increase again, no matter what I try. The only solution is to restart Network Manager. After deactivating NM and trying wicd, the problem persisted. And I was able to solve it by restarting wicd, like the case with NM. Some people from the Bulgarian LUG suggested that it's from iwl3945, because they have similar issues. But they don't have a solution yet. Unfortunately, I don't see anything suspicious in the logs. Did you check /var/log/messages between the time it's working well, to when it starts to go slow ? Does NM go through a disconnect, connected process ? Any ideas how can I debug this issue? - With another wireless machine, can you prove to yourself that access rate stays high even when problem laptop goes slow ? - Once troubled, does a WAP gateway restart help ? - Does the laptop only have trouble with this WAP, ie test it with another WAP ? - Could the wireless card be getting put in low power mode/asleep where waking doesn't working properly ? - Are you using power suspend or sleep modes ? - can a wired connection to the same network stay up and continually download at good wired rates (eg 60Mbps on 100M connection ? - Is the wap a router as well ? - are you using any peer-peer network apps on either wired or wireless parts of your network, or even the on the troubling laptop ? - Does the WAP log show any trouble ? - Are you moving too close or far away from the WAP ? - Interference from too many 802.11 frequency devices like other WAPs, microwave, DECT cordless phones etc ? - does the wireless tools like iwconfig etc show that the connection speed has been adjusted ? - does it matter if your notebook is running of mains or battery ? These are just random guesses really, since my 3945 on HP nx6320 works just fine, and continues to work when I take the notebook downstairs, some obstructions away. However, my WAP Netgear WTG624 needs a power reboot about every one-two weeks because it stops responding anymore, ie the client network cards (notebook and 802.11G mobile phone) can no longer connect. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No modules get loaded
Mick M. wrote: [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/modprobe.conf # default modutils aliases alias binfmt-204 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-263 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-264 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-267 binfmt_aout I don't think you really need an /etc/modprobe.conf at all ? (But I'm no expert) ... The man says modprobe is the way nowadays, along with Does modprobe a single module work ? ... I am sure there is a better way, but this worked. The problem was that you don't find out about the missing modules until you reboot. Do you mean you manually get a kernel installed, then reboot - alls ok, then reboot again, and on the second time the modules wont load ? So something gets set/reset, then during the next boot modules are not loaded, although the files are there. It would be interesting to look / compare a dmesg and /var/log/message output when it works and doesn't. Preferable to put such logs into fpaste.org or similar, and post the links back here. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture Software
Robert L. Cochran wrote: Is there video capture software that works similarly to Pinnacle Studio? I need to capture video from a bunch of 16-20 year old VHS tapes from a VCR. I'd like to do this in Fedora if possible. If such software exists, do I need a specific video capture card. Or is any old capture card okay? Like the Pinnacle 500-USB? If it has composite video input connector, that's all you would really need. Haven't used that device particularly (used the video in video out version of an nvidia fx5600 VGA card). Check out some linux hardware databases like: http://www.smolts.org/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ Hopefully someone will have updated their smolt profile to say whether the device just works etc. You can probably use XawTV / TVTime for playback to the screen, and once you sure you have this working, then look for a specific capture app. It's possibly best to do your capture and manipulation work in an uncompressed format, and output to eg mpeg2/dvd profile so that you can make a dvd. Look at videodog, kino, mlt (in RPM Fusion RSN ?) One last question. Is there software that can fix defects in captured video? I think kino has such filters, but you would need to check most recent version. Well, that is not the best question for me to ask, there are so many reasons why the defects can be present. I have a one hour sample capture from a 16 year old tape that has so many reddish off-color frames, Do you see those on a normal TV monitor ? so many jerky motions Sounds like the capture hardware couldn't keep up system it was outputting to couldn't keep up. Was this with the Pinnacle ? and other unnatural breaks in the playback that I wonder if it's a) the tape Yes. b) the VCR Yes. If you haven't used your deck for a long time, use a head-cleaning tape before entrusting your tapes to the deck. Preferably, get a VCR tech to perform a proper head / transport path clean, for best results. Can you playback to TV / capture to PC a brand new (never opened) bought VHS movie OK ? Some decks need you to adjust picture tracking manually if the tape was recorded on a different deck, or the alignment changed since you recorded the material. c) the cable No. unless you are wobbling the cable/connection and it occurs as you do this. Use a direct composite video cable if possible, rather than an antenna connection cable to your TV. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Mixer Wowes
William M. Quarles wrote: I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and a Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards, As evidenced by ? I'm not sure which mod the awe needs, but check lsmod |grep snd Maybe fpaste.org your alsa-info results for others to check the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls, and nothing is available for the AWE 64. In gnome-volume-control I see Device entries for eg: CA0106 alsa Nvidia nforce2 alsa mixer oss playback CA PA playback NF PA capture CA PA capture NF PA capture-monitor CA PA capture-monitor NF PA and I need to change the device to control the appropriate card. Did you try alsamxixer, and alsaunmute ? DaveT. ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: phoronix-test-suite for Fedora?
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2009 16:12:07 -0700 Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: Does anyone have experience to share making this work? The site talks about Ubuntu and not a lot else... yum install phoronix-test-suite man it it does download the tests definitions live. list-tests to find the available ones. It would be nice for the package description to include all test names so that yum search super-pi would find this package ! DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: laptop overheating using F9
ADITYA KRISHNAN wrote: Let me know is there any particular software i can download for preventing this overheating. yum install iotop iotop: what apps are doing the most io ? top: what apps are doing the most cpu usage ? There might be a process that has gone awol, that could show itself up in either tool ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to install vmware in my fedora 64
Nathan Huang wrote: Please tell me who to install vmware server on my fedora 64. My suggestion: use the virtual package vmware-server-requirements currently in package review for rpmfusion: https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351 Basically, it just installs packages that you could manually yum install, but in one step... I am yet to see any easy to use/apply patch to allow vmware-server to work with F10-update-testing kernel-2.6.29.x series kernels; use the kernel-2.6.27 instead at this stage. DaveT. ps. That is a package proposed by myself. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB tuner and kernel.org
Mick M. wrote: Hello list; I recently bought an Autumn Wave OnAir HDTV USSB tuner. Hmmm, a digital TV tuner device. I read the pvrusb2 driver setup information. Is that a URL on the web ? Did you take care of their advice ? Under F10 it fails with: [r...@localhost ~]# tvtime 1. you won't want to be root for playing TV. 2. tvtime: High quality video for Linux tvtime is a high quality television application for use with video capture cards on Linux What that means is it is for inserting captures of analog video into your vga output (display), it doesn't do dvb (digital tv) decoding. [r...@localhost ~]# xawtv no video grabber device available Again, /dev/video0 is the analog capture device - your device probably doesn't have one. [r...@localhost ~]# ls -l /dev/video* ls: cannot access /dev/video*: No such file or directory Only useful for analog capturing tuner cards/devices. For digital, look for: $ ls -lR /dev/dv* should see adapter folder, demux, dvr, frontend, net0, probably. [r...@localhost ~]# lsmod Module Size Used by pvrusb2 138896 0 Your device module is loaded. Did you do this manually, or add manual entries to make this device load ? Since we want such a device to just work for all users, we can get an entry in appropriate files to make this driver get loaded for your particular usb device no dvb_core 84380 1 pvrusb2 The dvb demuxer module is loaded. [r...@localhost ~]# lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 11ba:1101 Is this it ? Post the detail output for the particular device; we can't see anything about the device yet. Since it wasn't named by lsusb, it is probable that the device ID's are not yet in the appropriate file so that it can be loaded automatically. Can you find it in: http://www.smolts.org/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ Can you post a link to the smolts hardware database ? You get this by running smoltSendProfile, and then the to Share your profile public link URL is given after you send the profile. Has anyone got this thing to work? I have used similar (older) tuners. Is yours brand new (ie made late last year, early this year) ? see So: below. How do you compile tyhe new kernels? Uncertain yet as to whether you will need to compile a kernel (but if you really do, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel ); in any case there is a pretty new one in updates-testing if you are sure that your device is so new yet different from earlier devices, and that it's support is only in the newest kernel. Fedora does not include any digital TV viewing apps since they must implement patented mpg2 and or mpeg4 decoding. The kernel driver for dvb (digital video broadcasting) provides demuxing services, but not decoding of the mpg2 streams into video frames. So: 0. yum install dvb-apps 1. view http://rpmfusion.org/ and enable rpm fusion on your system 2. yum install mplayer-gui xine 3. tune the channels using the dvb-apps (basically you need the system to create a channels.conf, this tells the applications how to tune/display the various channels that are found at your location) 4. mplayer dvb://ABC TV or xine dvb://ABC TV [3] is could be broken down into simpler steps. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update and Report on Fedora August 2008 Intrusion
Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 10:00 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: This communication provides additional information on the Fedora infrastructure intrusion first reported on August 14, 2008. In part this communication reiterates information provided in previous announcements. snip Thank you for the update. I, for one, really appreciate hearing the whole story. Just the timing could have been a little further from 1st April, in either direction; It was sent on 31 March 01:00 in Australian time, which could suggest a Fool's day hoax. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: System not booting after yum updates
Craig Preston wrote: After using my F10 system the other day, it automatically downloaded a bunch a new updates and installed them. When I came back the next day to use the system it will not boot now. After the grub screen it goes to start loading and then displays the following error - /bin/lvm error while loading shared libraries libreadline.so.5 cannot open is that actually /sbin/lvm ? - I do not have a /bin/lvm either. shared object file: no such file or directory unable to access resume device (/dev/volgroup00/logvol01) mount : could not find filesystem 'dev/root' In my grub menu i still have the previous kernel listed and I can boot into single user mode with it, but not the regular boot. It seems strange to have just stopped working without me changing any system settings. Only a week or so earlier I installed the livna Nvidia drivers, I don't know if they have corrupted anything?? When you say livna, do you mean RPM Fusion ? Any help would be great See where your system stands at the moment: $ rpm -qa \*kernel\* \*nv\* lvm2 readline|sort list the most recent updates: # tail --lines=200 /var/log/yum.log verify the some package installs: $ rpm -V kernel readline lvm2 fdisk -l mount cat /boot/grub/grub.conf blkid You might like to paste any big results to a pastebin, and post the link here instead ( ). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
preupgrade to go from F9 i386 - F10 x86_64 ?
Wondering if it might be possible to have pre-upgrade do a cross arch upgrade ? What file tells preupgrade what arch you are on ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Revisor livecd for soho emergency use
Peter Malcolm Croft Price wrote: However in both scenarios ppp0 would have to be configured with username and password to bring up xdsl internet connection. I cannot rely on any user expertise beyond restarting the server and/or booting from the livecd. Has anyone on the list any ideas about solutions, strategies, gotchas? unionfs i think it was that allowed you to overmount a filesystem on another. So you could mount the rescue filesystem, with the real system config dirs overlaid... Never tried that, don't know if fedora supports it. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade to go from F9 i386 - F10 x86_64 ?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Phil Bieber wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 15:11, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: David Timms wrote: What file tells preupgrade what arch you are on ? look at /etc/rpm/platform But is it possible to upgrade between different platforms? I always thought that one cannot change the platform after installing any OS I did it. It took a little bot of clean up to identify the unneeded leftover .386 RPMs from the needed ones, but I did it. YMMV. Thanks, I'm going to give it a try. If the cleanup is too hard, I'll just fresh install anyway ;) Cheers, DaveT -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature
Hi, just noticed the temperature in Melbourne, Vic, Australia (where I am) has got to (celsius scale!) : http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60900.shtml I think we made a Melbourne record, cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature ?
David Timms wrote: Hi, just noticed the temperature in Melbourne, Vic, Australia (where I am) has got to (celsius scale!) : http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60900.shtml And a screengrab for archival purposes. http://members.iinet.net.au/~timmsy/weather/melbourne.weather.2009-02-07.15-40.png ps: 45.9 degrees celsius = 114.6 degrees fahrenheit. pps: currently 38.5 inside. Cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gateway DX4720 installation problems - nvidia 7100
Charles Landau wrote: Apparently Linux is known to have problems with the nVidia GeForce 7100; I found this post: https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=62357forum=12 I'm looking for the right driver in hopes that will fix the video problem. It may be that kernel modesetting is active and causing the issue. try adding the nomodeset option to the grub kernel boot line. You can check the nvidia linux site to determine which GPUs are supported by which closed source driver. (If it is supported, then I suggest using akmod-nvidia-YYY from RPM Fusion to make the process of getting the driver installed easier.) DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, NetworkManager, and intermittent dns -- Update
Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:32:08 -0500 McGuffey, David C. wrote: Update: Intermittent dns is still present. I'd strongly suspect this is NM getting the resolv.conf file correct on initial connect, then screwing it up on subsequent DHCP lease renewal. I get the no entries in /etc/resolv.conf directly after logging in (workaround - an NM entry with static IP, and dns). Is there a more permanent fix for Fedora 10 (upgraded from F9) ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: vmware winxp guest on fedora
brian wrote: brian wrote: Windows n00b here. I've installed a WinXP image, hosted on fedora and need to be able to see websites served by the host. For me, the similar ssh/scp/sftp from the winxp guest to the fedora host works for me. I only set up bridged networking though. Why do you want nat ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Install Fedora 10 for the 1st time
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:28:33PM -0600, Harvey Folse wrote: I am having a problem installing Fedora on a Dell Poweredge box. Keep getting the following error Volume group VolGroup00 not found Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVolGroup00/LogVol101) I have formatted created a hardware RAID one for the install. What am I doing wrong? That device name looks weird to me. Aren't LVM volumes normally named /dev/VolGroupName/LogicalVolName ? Why the extra path here? If it isn't a typo, the lvm tools (possibly having booted in rescue mode if this issue is stopping the machine booting) should help you understand what is going on: lvmdiskscan vgdisplay lvdisplay DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X11 sweep frequencies, how are they determined?
Leslie Satenstein wrote: My question is in the subject line. You might have to give a little more info on this query (I certainly aren't sure what you are talking about) ? Where did you see it mentioned (internet, config file... ?) DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - kernel build problem
john wendel wrote: this box without any problems. Now with F10, I can't compile the kernel, gcc dies with a segmentation fault and the output tries to tell me that Can you provide the text of the segfault (without that you are asking for speculation) ? Could you try running the compile inside the gdb debugger, install any debuginfo packages requested, and hopefully be able to get a backtrace ? You aren't running out of disk (on certain partitions/lv's) or memory during the build, are you ? I did build a large software system (nothing as big as the Linux kernel) on the F10 system and it seems to be working fine, so gcc seems to be installed properly. How long did the large software system take to complete ? How far into the kernel build did it stop (time gcc ...) ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gateway DX4720 installation problems
David Timms wrote: Charles Landau wrote: I just bought a DX4720-03 from Gateway. Has anyone succeeded in installing Fedora on this system? checkout: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6611313 last post for a potential fix. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Telling a module to claim a device.
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: My memory is failing me today. I have a USB device that is not on the list of devices that the module knows it is for. I know you can pass the Vendor and Product IDs of the USB device to the module, but I can not remember how to do it. Can someone refresh my memory? Hi Mikkel, Perhaps getting an upstream listing in hal-info will make a solution for all users of that usb device, similar to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471897 Cheers, DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debuginfo-install failing for libtdb - just me ?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: File it. fyi: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480316 DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
debuginfo-install failing for libtdb - just me ?
trying to debug a segfault in firefox, and gdb suggests: debuginfo-install libtdb-1.1.1-25.fc10.i386 trying to run that command gives: Could not find debuginfo for main pkg: libtdb-1.1.1-25.fc10.i386 I can see from rpm -q --info libtdb that it comes from the samba package. Should this work, or will I report a bug ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
