Re: New support lists?
Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: And my opinion of Red Hat is shit now, since they have a representative like Alexandre fronting for them. Red Hat doesn't. Alexandra just persists in abusing his redhat.com address to advertise his own BLAG distribution in the wrong place. woah woah woah woah woah. BLAG is using Alexandre's kernels, but BLAG is certainly *not* his own distro. In fact, I don't even consider him a BLAG developer and neither does he. BLAG used fedora's and before that Red Hat, Inc. kernel's but that didn't make Dave Jones a BLAG developer either. We use packages from a wide variety of sources. BLAG has been building based on Red Hat Inc.'s Red Hat since 7.3. We have only been using Alexandre's kernels a few months, which is when I first came in contact with him. I don't even think alexandre is using BLAG for that matter, just Fedora with his kernels and then cleans out non-free packages. Please get your facts straight. -Jeff P.S. I try to stay out of these threads, but when someone brings up something completely false about BLAG, I feel I have to correct it, especially when it's someone like Alan Cox. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:
Alexandre Oliva aoliva at redhat.com writes:
If you find any such problems in BLAG 8 (never formally released)
or BLAG 9 (released easier today), please report them.
Here's some I found at a quick glance:
http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/
RPMS.fedora/zd1211-firmware-1.4-1.noarch.rpm
Yes, it says it's GPLv2. Now try looking at the source code... See also the
Fedora review request (where I raised that point,
wondering if this is legal to
redistribute at all):
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221675#c17
http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/
RPMS.fedora/midisport-firmware-1.2-1.noarch.rpm
Claims to be GPLv2, but only the firmware loader is GPLv2
(actually dual GPLv2
or BSD). The package also contains firmware files (in /lib/firmware)
under the following license:
The firmware files (*.ihx) are copyrighted by Midiman, and can be used
and redistributed only as part of this package.
Their %{LICENSE} tags read:
zd1211-firmware GPLv2
midisport-firmware GPLv2+
These have been removed from our 9 and BLAGHEAD (rawhide) repositories.
Presumably Fedora would want to change the tag to GPLv2 and redistributable or
whatever the case may be.
Thanks for tracking them down. If you notice any others, please let us know.
-Jeff
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Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at yahoo.com writes: A Because Fedora includes Firmware and those guys don't. Bullsh*t! BLAG 7 ships: [gmane tells me to prune] I am the maintainer of BLAG and I basically agree with what you've said above. The 7 release was done before linux-libre was done. Moving forward we've removed all the non-free bits we can find. BLAG always has updated releases, but they are just called alpha or beta and used by the BLAG community though they weren't linked on the front page. We do have updated releases--oftentimes I have releases ready based on fedora testing even before fedora has done their final release. The repositories are set up before fedora releases their stable version too. http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Roadmap Last night, I pushed out 9, based on Fedora 9, so it is now linked on our front page. I will be doing more release early often of 'stable' releases to address your legitimate concerns. As for the DNS issue, it compels me to make a confession of a sin against Free Software. I've been running djbdns the whole decade, not BIND! Thankfully, djbdns is now in the public domain. :) Thanks, -Jeff P.S. I'm posting via gmane since i'm not on this list, and the turing-test word is subverts jejeje. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:
Alexandre Oliva aoliva at redhat.com writes:
If you find any such problems in BLAG 8 (never formally released)
or BLAG 9 (released easier today), please report them.
Here's some I found at a quick glance:
Thank you for your research! We have over 10,000 packages in our BLAG 9
repository (based on fedora 9), so things do get missed.
My approach is to generate a list of acceptable %{LICENSE} tags, in their
various forms (GPL, GPLv2, GPLv3, MIT, Public Domain, etc). That list has 383
valid license tags!
I then run a script which goes through the various repos and adds all the
packages with licenses that are acceptable to the Free Software Foundation.
If the packages you mention are included in BLAG and contain non-free software,
this is likely due to them being tagged with an incorrect license. Their
inclusion, if they are non-free, is considered a BUG and they will be removed. I
will go through the packages on your list to confirm your report. I do
appreciate it, as I actually hate licensing issues! I merely want Free Software!
I'll also note that there is *Free* firmware for some drivers, so just because
something is labelled firmware doesn't mean it's not free.
Thanks!
-Jeff
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Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: I wrote: Claims to be GPLv2, but only the firmware loader is GPLv2 (actually dual GPLv2 or BSD). Or rather, GPLv2+ or MIT. So in total, the correct License tag for midisport-firmware would be: (GPLv2+ or MIT) and Redistributable, no modification permitted This would actually be a bug in Fedora then and should have a bugzilla ticket opened there. As I go thru your list I will open upstream bug reports if you don't beat me to it. plz beat me to it? ;) Thanks again, -Jeff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
