Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets
2010/1/7 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? check export patch unused-patches unused-fedora-patches If so, please reply to which one, and in what scenario you use those targets. Thanks! I have used make patch quite a bit when developing patches. I guess it's just a wrapper around gendiff though, so it maybe redundant i.e. in my use case I could have been using gendiff. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Openoffice PDF output depends on gnome theme
2010/1/4 Prasan prasanhe...@gmail.com: I use the 'darklooks' gtk theme and openoffice.org 3.1.1 comes with Fedora 12 x86_64. The document background is dark when this theme is used as expected and the default text color is white. When I convert a document to PDF using the built-in pdf exporter I expect the PDF to be normal( white background, black text). This works for normal text but all the math equations and some drawings are still in white. (i.e. white in white background) Is this the expected behaviour (the true WYSIWYG even considering the gtk theme) or is this a bug in openoffice?. Sounds like a bug to me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?
Hi, Sometime in the past few weeks I've ended up as the package owner for emacs, without actually requesting it. I've previously been a co-maintainer (i.e. watchbugzilla, watchcommits, commit, approveacls), but haven't requested package ownership at any point, so I'm wondering what turn of events brought this about, and whether it's a bug with the pkgdb. If a package is orphaned by its owner, does the next person with commit access become the package owner or something like that? If so, I think that needs a bit more thinking. I'm not really grumbling about become the package owner (though I'm not sure I have enough knowledge of emacs internals to take on that role), though I am genuinely confused as to how this happened. Unfortunately the emacs package does seem to get bumped around various RH employees - it'd be nice if there was a bit more communication about this when it happens. Cheers, Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: need help in contributing to se-linux policy development
2010/1/3 sai ganesh gane...@fedoraproject.org: hi, my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am a Redhat certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i contribute ? whom should i contact? i have already tried contacting the owners of the se-linux packages.i didn't get any response. Perhaps you'd be better off sending a mail to the fedora-selinux-list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How did I end up as the package owner for emacs?
2010/1/3 Karel Klic kk...@redhat.com: Hi Jonathan, you became the owner in the pkgdb when Daniel Novotny and I agreed to transfer the package ownership to me. We discovered that the next person with commit access become the owner when a package is orphaned, and the package owner cannot be changed in pkgdb. I asked about the solution on IRC, and when I got no answer I postponed it. From my point of view it is not important who is the owner when I can fix bugs and commit changes. I apologize to you for not sending an email about the change, that would have been be the right thing. Nonetheless, I am also interested in how to change the owner to certain person from the list of package maintainers. Hi Karel, Aha - thanks for explaining what happened. I just tried releasing package ownership using the pkgdb web interface, but that doesn't seem to work... will continue to investigate. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: ABRT considered painful
2009/12/29 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com:
What's wrong with ABRT?
Originally, with stock F-12, I had received a couple of good backtraces in
bugzilla. Incredibly useful. A wonderful improvement over F-11 and older.
And later? - Recently, in all the backtraces dozens of debuginfo packages
are missing. :-(
Locally, for the past few days, debuginfo packages have failed to
install for me because I have the rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}
repositories activated, and the main mirrorlist for rpmfusion seems to
have gone down, so debuginfo never completes, and abrt carries on its
merry way. I suspect others are seeing this.
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Re: ABRT considered painful
2009/12/31 Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com:
2009/12/29 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com:
What's wrong with ABRT?
Originally, with stock F-12, I had received a couple of good backtraces in
bugzilla. Incredibly useful. A wonderful improvement over F-11 and older.
And later? - Recently, in all the backtraces dozens of debuginfo packages
are missing. :-(
Locally, for the past few days, debuginfo packages have failed to
install for me because I have the rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}
repositories activated, and the main mirrorlist for rpmfusion seems to
have gone down, so debuginfo never completes, and abrt carries on its
^^ debuginfo-install
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Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing
2009/12/21 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 05:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: So what do you suggest doing in such a case? Temporarily reverting the F-n branch to the old release, build, then bump it up again? This sounds really suboptimal to me (in addition to being a regression from our current CVS setup, which does allow creating such branches)! Branching is really part of what VCSs are for. You're right, branching is a real part, that's why you would start the foo-1.1 work on a topic branch, and only merge it into origin/F-12 when you're ready to build it and push it through bodhi. Just like you'd work on a new feature on a feature branch and only bring it over to origin/master when you're ready to merge it with everything else. Treat the origin/F-?? as the master for that release, do your long running not immediately ready for build work on topic branches thereof and only merge them when you're ready to build. This reduces the surprise should another developer need to quickly build out an update that is unrelated to any major change you may have cooking. Something that would be really nice on top of this would be allowing *any* contributor to create and push private/topic branches while only allowing contributors allowed by the ACL to push to the branches from which builds occur. Use case: I see a problem with a package. I fix it and push to a topic branch, and then contact the package owners and ask them to merge it. Faster workflow than going through bugzilla. This might all be one pony too far at this stage though, and might be phase 10 wishlist stuff. J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Koji stuck?
2009/12/19 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: I've seen this same thing in some other emacs packages builds. Something just causes them to get stuck. ;( I guess I would say try canceling and re-submitting, if that doesn't work, try a local mock and see if you can see where it's getting stuck. Well, strangely, I did a mockbuild locally before dropping the job into koji and it completed fine. I see later posts refer to a gcc problem, so I'll try playing with those - I think I'll need to rebuild emacs locally as well though with different debug options to really get to the bottom of it. J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing
2009/12/18 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: Phase two, write access with ACLs, is ready for testing. Please not that URLs have changed since my original announcement. git clone ssh://[fedoraacco...@]pkgs.fedoraproject.org/package will get you a cone via ssh, in which you can git pull and git push. The repos are the same from phase1, although I've done a few commits here and there to test things. They are not tied to the CVS repos, so changes you make here are truly throw away. Please test cloning and writing to packages and branches of packages that you would normally have write access to, or normally would /not/ have write access to. I'm interested in seeing both of those cases tried. I checked out emacs-vm and the commited and pushed a change to the spec file and was quite surprised to find that the change was pushed to all branches. Is that intended ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing
2009/12/19 Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com: I checked out emacs-vm and the commited and pushed a change to the spec file and was quite surprised to find that the change was pushed to all branches. Is that intended ? Er, ignore that, I was confusing myself. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Koji stuck?
Hi, I kicked off a couple of builds last night which appear stuck on koji. I had checked they build locally with a make mockbuild before submitting and all was fine. The builds are: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=147755 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=147756 Should I just cancel and resubmit, or? Cheers, Jonathan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Possible wrong versions tagged into f12-final
2009/12/16 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:19 +, Quentin Armitage wrote: I've noticed what might be a couple of anomalies regarding which versions of packages have been tagged into f12-final. freenx-client: 0.9-9.fc12 was built as part of the dist-f12-rebuild, but 0.9-10.fc11 tagged has been tagged into f12-final. gauche: 0.8.14.3.fc12 was built during the mass F12 rebuild, but 0.8.14.3.fc11 has been tagged into f12-final. It appears that 0.8.14-2.fc12 was built after 0.8.14-3.fc12 (during the mass F12 rebuild). Quentin Armitage Yeah, looks like some fallout around the mass rebuild and getting things tagged over. Too late to do anything about F12 now, owners of those packages might consider issuing updates (which would then be picked up in F13) Bug #548216 filed for freenx-client Bug #548218 filed for gauche -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?
2009/10/30 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: I'm presenting a complete list of packages shipped in TeX Live to discuss another possible obsoletions: dvipdfm dvipdfmx I think the latest TeXLive doesn't include dvipdfm as its functionality is now covered by dvipdfmx. Anyway, In both cases I am the packager, and would rather see the texlive variant shipped and the packages obsoleted. xdvi Again, would prefer if we obsoleted the separate package and went with the texlive variant. Here however we may need to shipp a separate package for the japanese patched version. Or we could integrate the japanese patch into texlive - this may need some work though, as the japanese patch seems to be unmaintined presently. Longer term I hope xdvi just goes away, as its functionality increasingly gets added to evince - xdvi is only minimally maintained at this point and is rather... crusty. dvipng Yep, we should simply go with the texlive version - I am happy with this, as dvipng maintainer. xdvipdfmx I'm not primary maintainer of this one, but again, I think we should go with the texlive shipped version (which is ahead of the version available as a separate tarball). Let me know if you need any help with this. Cheers, Jonathan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
2009/11/19 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com said: That is incorrect, unless somehow your ssh tunneled VNC registers as local console login, which I doubt. In your case, none of your users would be allowed to install software/updates. VNC looks like a local console login. Since I am just sat logged into a F12 gnome session over vnc, I tried it: $ geany Command not found. Install package 'geany' to provide command 'geany'? [N/y] * Installing packages.. * Getting information.. * Resolving dependencies.. * Waiting for authentication.. The transaction failed: not-authorized, Failed to obtain authentication. This gnome session was started by logging into GDM over vnc - GDM with xdmcp enabled, and connecting from a remote machine to the VNC port via ssh forwarding. HTH, Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
2009/11/18 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 11/18/2009 10:38 PM, nodata wrote: Yikes! When was it decided that non-root users get to play root? Ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047 This is horrible! The subject of the mail doesn't actually match the description in the bug report. Richard Hughes says: PackageKit allows you to install signed content from signed repositories without a password by default. It only asks you to authenticate if anything is unsigned or the signatures are wrong If you have a problem with this, do explain why. Not suggesting it is not a problem but being more descriptive does help. Well, it's all a bit inconsistent presently: $ yum install maxima Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit You need to be root to perform this command. $ maxima Command not found. Install package 'maxima' to provide command 'maxima'? [N/y] * Installing packages.. * Getting information.. * Resolving dependencies.. The following packages have to be installed: sbcl-1.0.30-2.fc12.x86_64 Steel Bank Common Lisp wxBase-2.8.10-6.fc12.x86_64Non-GUI support classes from the wxWidgets library wxGTK-2.8.10-6.fc12.x86_64 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library gnuplot-common-4.2.6-1.fc12.x86_64 common gnuplot parts cl-asdf-20071110-7.fc12.noarch Another System Definition Facility gnuplot-4.2.6-1.fc12.x86_64A program for plotting mathematical expressions and data maxima-runtime-sbcl-5.19.2-1.fc12.x86_64 Maxima compiled with SBCL common-lisp-controller-6.15-8.fc12.noarch Common Lisp source and compiler manager Proceed with changes? [N/y] * Waiting for authentication.. * Running.. * Resolving dependencies.. * Downloading packages.. * Testing changes.. * Installing packages.. * Scanning applications.. [...@withnail ~]$ Command not found. Install package 'maxima' to provide command 'maxima'? [N/y] ^C ... and what's more it bails with command not found anyway which component isn't working here? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
2009/11/13 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: • xdvik-0:22.84.14-7.fc12 — /usr/bin/pxdvi-xaw3d — /usr/bin/xdvi-xaw3d A more crusty piece of code than xdvi you never did see. It's very much in bugfix only mode upstream, so I very much doubt upstream, such as it is, will be moving to a modern tool kit and using fontconfig. I don't think it'd be a useful expenditure of time in any case. A better expenditure of time would be to work out what (if any) functionality is missing in evince-dvi which prevents us from dropping xdvi altogether. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: odd file requires
2009/11/9 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com:
Seth Vidal wrote:
Take a look through, see if you see a package you're responsible for
and, if you can, figure out a way to not need the file-requires.
In the case of puppet (and probably some of the others listed in the
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp section), puppet provides an emacs file,
but it also owns %{_datadir}/emacs so as not to require emacs. AFAIK,
since puppet provides this file, the filelists don't need to be
downloaded to resolve the dep. At least, I don't recall ever seeing
it download them when I've installed or updated puppet.
Note that actually the problem raised in Seth's list is actually the
ftnchek package doing a Requires: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
Reported, with a patch here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533906
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Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?
2009/10/29 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Currently I'm trying to not to replace any package that has a separate upstream and is already packaged separatelly in Fedora. IMO I think we'd be better off adopting the texlive versions of the packages, rather than doing a half-and-half job on this by packaging individual upstreams. The reason being that Fedora then benefits from the integration and testing work done by the texlive team. The texlive xdvipdfmx, for example is (I think), ahead of the 0.4 upstream release. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?
2009/10/29 José Matos jama...@fc.up.pt: On Thursday 29 October 2009 17:26:25 Jonathan Underwood wrote: IMO I think we'd be better off adopting the texlive versions of the packages, rather than doing a half-and-half job on this by packaging individual upstreams. The reason being that Fedora then benefits from the integration and testing work done by the texlive team. The texlive xdvipdfmx, for example is (I think), ahead of the 0.4 upstream release. J. I am not sure if Jindrich is talking about this but the same could be said about the other pure latex packages. If the packages are available on texlive they could obsolete the previous versions available on Fedora. Agreed. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?
2009/10/25 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF, so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work? Or, should texlive just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version? IMO the latter. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
2009/10/1 Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com: On 10/01/2009 03:10 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: 2009/9/14 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Hi, everyone. We - the QA group - have recently been researching the feasibility of using zsync to reduce the size of live image downloads. This has hit a roadblock in the form of the problem where both rsync and zsync use forked zlibs rather than linking against the system copy. Imho, allow zsync for fedora. If you can solve the zlib-problem of rsync, the problem of zsync will be solved as well, cause the integrity of zsync in fedora fails on rsync-compatibility, which needs a forked zlib. If you want it in, do the work. I've outlined the possibilities several times: A) You're a coder and want to get your hands dirty with the rsync protocol. Check out how librsync manages to use the system zlib and if possible to do this compatibly, apply it to zsync and rsync, possible as a build time option. Push the changes upstream if possible. If it's impossible to apply the librsync strategy, having a good explanation of what librsync is doing and why it can't work for rsync/zsync would be great for crossing this option off the list. librsync is not wire compatible with rsync, and also hasn't kept up to date with rsync protocol changes, so it may not be as straightforward to lift ideas from librsync. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Intel graphics users: send me your VBIOS
2009/9/25 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com: That reminds me, I am seeing xrandr settings not persist across suspend/resume - which component is that best filed against - kernel or xorg? Start with X. In fact, in general, report KMS bugs against X, it's easier than trying to find them in the huge pile of kernel bugs. OK, filed as BZ #525939. Seems related to BZ #520068 (reported against kernel). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Opinions on packaging ATLAS (for the x86 architecture)
2009/9/25 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 16:30 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: Well, my point was that packages that do respect CFLAGS get built currently with certain options, and however Atlas builds, the default package should have comparable options. On x86, I see that is presently -march=i686 -mtune=atom, and IIRC -march=i686 implies sse and sse2 (not sure about sse3). Anyway, whatever it implies, I think that should be the default for the main Atlas package too. No, -march=i686 does not use SSE; excerpt from gcc man page: i686 Same as generic, but when used as march option, PentiumPro instruction set will be used, so the code will run on all i686 family chips. Ah, right, thanks. Then I am advocating that Atlas be built without SSE for the main package (option 1 of Deji's proposals, I think). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
2009/9/15 Simo Sorce sso...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after the fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue at this point because rsync is already in the distribution. We need to fix this lack of incentive for other reasons -- but we need to fix it before we start trying to get more packages into the distro with less initial quality. Sorry but the packager may have no way to influence upstream. And to be honest having a huge patch against rsync and/or zsync to extract a library against the will of the rsync and/or zsync upstream is contrary to fedora policy as (AFAIK). And yes I am the maintainer of rsync and I am not doing the job, because I don't want to have to create or maintain such patcheset until the day I am reasonably sure upstream will want such patches. Finally as ajax said, we need to be reasonable, I don't think this problem warrants blocking our acceptance of zsync. Looking through the mailing list archives, as far as I can tell, noone has tried this course of action yet: 1) Ask zlib upstream to accept the changes that the rsync devs made to zlib and issue a new release 2) Ask rsync upstream to support the new version of zlib 3) Ask zsync upstream to support the new version of zlib Surely that's the right solution, and the first thing that should be tried? Jonathan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
2009/9/2 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 18:50 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/9/1 Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com: Is that intentional? Seems emacs-auctex requires 11.85, while your package provides 11.84. AucTeX is the upstream for the preview tex package - so this is another case where we need to decide whether to go with upstream or the texlive version. In this case, I think we have to go with the upstream (AucTeX) one as each Auctex release is tested against the bundled preview class. Actually, there is an option to install the AucTeX bundled preview privately for auctex. so both versions could co-exist, if we wanted to do that (although that's not my recommendation). Meanwhile, is there a workaround? I can install the right tex-preview alongside texlive-preview, but still can't install the old dvipng and kpathsea to get emacs-auctex. That kpathsea wants texlive-2007. I don't see an easy one without rebuilding emacs-auctex against Jindrich's new packages, and that's not an option for the main F-11 repo. One the new texlive is in rawhide, we can fix this stuff up there. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
2009/8/31 Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr: Hello, I haven't followed closely the new packaging of texlive, so you should take my comments with caution... On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 01:15:21PM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: The new packages obsolete the ancient tetex stuff: tetex-tex4ht I think that the stand-alone tex4ht could be better than the texlive one. It was updated many time a year in the past (but it may change). tetex-elvevier In the past, the version in CTAN of this package used to lag a lot. I'd still advise taking the files from the web, especially since there is also the old style in the stand-alone package. and these utilities: dvipdfm dvipdfmx dvipng xdvi xdvipdfmx Haven't some of those an upstream different from texlive? They do - however I lean towards using ones that come from texlive though, so we benefit from the integration work the TeXLive developers do. Once we start down the road of packaging everything with another upstream separately we get closer to basically developing out own TeX distribution, and we don't have the manpower to do that. A purest approach wouldn't consume the class files and packages from TeXLive either, but would rather take the .dtx files etc from ctan. Clearly this would be crazy. I think it's fair to regard TeXLive as upstream - in most cases the other upstreams are more like development sandboxes. Jonathan (who presently maintains or comaintains most of those packages at the mo). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
2009/9/1 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: IIRC xdvipdfmx is from texlive (but has not been updated for some time) Well, technically, upstream is the xetex project http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=xetex_linux -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
2009/8/31 Thomas Moschny thomas.mosc...@gmail.com: 2009/8/31 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Then installation of emacs-auctex runs without problems. So it seems like yum has a hard time to resolve both installation of emacs-auctex and obsoletion of dvipng in one transaction even though emacs-auctex contains unversioned Requires: to dvipng and texlive-dvipng should successfully obsolete it. But doing installation that way, I end up with both installed: tex-preview-11.85-8.fc11.noarch texlive-preview-2009-11.84.13530.fc11.noarch Is that intentional? Seems emacs-auctex requires 11.85, while your package provides 11.84. AucTeX is the upstream for the preview tex package - so this is another case where we need to decide whether to go with upstream or the texlive version. In this case, I think we have to go with the upstream (AucTeX) one as each Auctex release is tested against the bundled preview class. Jonathan (emacs-auctex maintainer). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent
2009/8/31 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: We already have ssmtp, esmtp. Is this something different? I don't think they have local mail delivery capability, though that is being worked on for esmtp. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
2009/9/1 Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com: Is that intentional? Seems emacs-auctex requires 11.85, while your package provides 11.84. AucTeX is the upstream for the preview tex package - so this is another case where we need to decide whether to go with upstream or the texlive version. In this case, I think we have to go with the upstream (AucTeX) one as each Auctex release is tested against the bundled preview class. Actually, there is an option to install the AucTeX bundled preview privately for auctex. so both versions could co-exist, if we wanted to do that (although that's not my recommendation). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com: 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on tetex-latex, which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this? Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to repoquery: a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64 asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64 fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64 HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64 ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64 jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64 pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64 tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64 tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64 These packages should be updated to require tex(latex). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: pygtk2 and its numpy dependency
2009/8/10 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com: a) remove the explicit Requires: numpy from pygtk2, require apps that actually want this function to Require it themselves b) fake the numpy data type ABI in pygtk2 itself by cult-and-pasting it from numpy c) declare that get_pixels_array() just doesn't work in Fedora (historically true, back in like FC3) d) leave things as they are I lean towards a). I think b) is icky but doable, since that ABI is effectively unbreakable anyway (inherited from the older python-numeric module). The other two are way lame. Thoughts? A possible (e) occured to me: e) Place the numpy.linalg stuff in a subpackage of numpy, which requires atlas and friends. Keep only the core numpy functionality in numpy itself, with other subpackages for the numpy.foo stuff. Then pygtk2 could just require the basic numpy package which would be smaller in size and have a lot less deps. I've no idea how hard this would be, and what might break, though. So it may be a stupid idea. Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: acer one
2009/7/24 roland rol...@cat.be: Hi everybody, I am trying to install fed 11 on an acer aspire one (netbook), using a usb_DVD. Following the doc of fedora everything should go standard except for usb_DVD. You will find in the attached picture the error that is generated when installing fed 11. The picture is missing, perhaps stripped by the mail list software. It's considered bad form to post attachments to mailing lists in any case - can you put the image on a pastebin somewhere? One place is http://imagebin.ca/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer one
2009/7/24 NoSpaze nosp...@gmail.com: Am Freitag, den 24.07.2009, 14:23 +0200 schrieb roland: I am trying to install fed 11 on an acer aspire one (netbook), using a usb_DVD. Following the doc of fedora everything should go standard except for usb_DVD. You will find in the attached picture the error that is generated when installing fed 11. Can't find any attachment. Anyway, I do had success in installing/ upgrading/ using F11 on my aspire one. Installed with a livecd on USB (obviously, i386). something like this: # yum install livecd-tools # livecd-iso-to-disk /home/rodolfo/Fedora-11-image.iso /dev/sdc1 Verifying image... /home/rodolfoap/Fedora-11-image.iso: 17d675e98a44754d41ba0d93f485ffa3 Fragment sums: 7dba468e8adf87c776ae4a15a871426ba74dba1187adb2a6807c1e124a34 Fragment count: 20 Percent complete: 100.0% Fragment[20/20] - OK 100.0 The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. Copying live image to USB stick Updating boot config file Installing boot loader USB stick set up as live image! # greets! Yes - I can report success doing exactly the same. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how much junk should i have to install for a 32-bit toolchain?
2009/7/20 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca: On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/7/19 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca: [snip] but i'm starting to wonder if this is worth the trouble, how much *more* i?86 content i'll have to dump on this machine and, most importantly, should this be my concern or do i have the right to at least *suggest* that the software providers might consider supplying a 64-bit toolchain to avoid all this nonsense, for the sake of the increasing number of 64-bit systems out there? I think they're working on porting to 64 bit, but it's a fair bit of work. If you don't like installing so much i386 packages you could consider using a mock chroot sandbox, to avoid contaminating your main system. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/MockTricks#Using_mock_as_a_chroot_sandbox_tool i may just throw 32-bit f11 on via virtualbox and do it all there. That works too. Or qemu-kvm which is available in the fedora repos. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how much junk should i have to install for a 32-bit toolchain?
2009/7/19 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca: [snip] but i'm starting to wonder if this is worth the trouble, how much *more* i?86 content i'll have to dump on this machine and, most importantly, should this be my concern or do i have the right to at least *suggest* that the software providers might consider supplying a 64-bit toolchain to avoid all this nonsense, for the sake of the increasing number of 64-bit systems out there? I think they're working on porting to 64 bit, but it's a fair bit of work. If you don't like installing so much i386 packages you could consider using a mock chroot sandbox, to avoid contaminating your main system. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/MockTricks#Using_mock_as_a_chroot_sandbox_tool -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up OpenVPN semi-manually
2009/7/13 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com: I have a VPN gateway using OpenVPN, running a custom distribution. It has keys which were generated by hand, installed by hand, etc. It has no GUI, no X, firewall only. I am looking for a doc on how I take a key from a file on the server, and install it using the NetworkManager. Just poking the GUI didn't make it obvious, I got one working by taking NM out and installing by hand using my Slackware notes, but that's really ugly. Did you try ricght clicking on the NM applet, selecting edit connections and then chosing the VPN tab? There i see a import button amongst other things? I've never used this functionality though, so I am just guessing. J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
2009/7/12 Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com: Just to gather more data, would everyone reply with the version and source they are using for the nvidia drivers? I want to see if we can figure out which package is the culprit... I see it on my 3 machines. All 3 are intel graphics. So it's not nvidia specific. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kvm/qemu network problem
2009/7/10 Bret bret...@gmail.com: I set up a windows xp virtual machine. Windows recognizes the nic and set up a driver for it, however it will not get an ip address from my router. I set up win xp before and everything worked, however, I deleted the vm a while back ago and now need it back. (Guess I shouldn't have gotten rid of it) Anyway, all I get is the win generated ip address 169.xxx.xxx.xxx and cannot connect to the internet. Running Fedora 11 x86_64 on: ASUS motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad Atheros based 10/100/1000 nic 4 GB RAM nvidia geforce 8400 Any help appreciated You don't detail how you went about setting up your networking - by default virt-manager will set up NAT networking on the host machine, such that the guest gets an ip from the host for a local (to the host) network. That should work for most use cases, but if you really need your guest to be visible on the network and get an IP address from your router you need to use bridged networking. A slightly out of date howto is here: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking It's out of date in that F11 NetworkManager does (I think) support bridging, so it may not be necessary to disable NM. HTH, Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kvm/qemu network problem
2009/7/10 Bret bret...@gmail.com: thanks for the help, it is set up as the default NAT network, but is unable to connect to the net. In which case the problem isn't that your guest isn't getting an IP address from your router, but that your guest isn't getting an IP address from your host. Here are some hints to debug this situation: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00179.html I will give that link a try. I don't think that's what you want to do, unless you want your guest visible to other hosts on your home network. I would start by getting the NAT configuration working properly. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono
2009/7/7 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:56 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 10:24:24AM +0200, drago01 wrote: http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/07/06/the-ecma-c-and-cli-standards.aspx Oh poo, and what's the difference? None. None whatsoever but more marketing. You can't distribute GPL'ed software unless you have the right to do it. The promise makes quite sure to tell you you have no right[1], but you can infringe that they won't sue *you*[2]. I am unable to read the Community Promise in any way that implies either of the above. Please cite exactly which statement in the Community Promise you take issue with. http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx Not answering Ajax's question specifically, but this looks a bit iffy: If you file, maintain, or voluntarily participate in a patent infringement lawsuit against a Microsoft implementation of any Covered Specification, then this personal promise does not apply with respect to any Covered Implementation made or used by you. So, say a few years have passed and C# and the CLI is now a very key component of the stack, and Red Hat (for example) filed a patent lawsuit against MS for something unrelated, MS could turn around and revoke the promise not to sue Red Hat for distributing a C#/CLI implementation, crippling the product that Red Hat now relies on. So I doubt that RMS's concerns are much assuaged by the Community Promise. But I'm just guessing. With similar reasoning it probably cripples the OIN's ability to sue back as well. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F11 scp stalls - rsync command
2009/6/28 Beartooth TpBkR bearto...@comcast.net: I let it alone for most of one day -- longer than any scp command has taken here before. I have seen this problem in situations where a router isn't dealing well with window rescaling and out of window packets. I worked around it by doing this on the machines: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal If that fixes the issue, to make it persist across reboots, you need to add it to rc.local. HTH, Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 scp stalls - rsync command
2009/6/28 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com: Jonathan Underwood wrote: I have seen this problem in situations where a router isn't dealing well with window rescaling and out of window packets. I worked around it by doing this on the machines: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal If that fixes the issue, to make it persist across reboots, you need to add it to rc.local. Wouldn't it be better to add net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal = 1 to /etc/sysctrl.conf, rather then adding the command to rc.local? Yes, in principle. My recollection is that this didn't work when I tried it though - the init scripts parse sysctl.conf fairly early, and before the netfilter/conntrack kernel modules were loaded with the result that the entry in sysctl had no effect. That test was a few releases ago though, so the situation may have changed with F-11. The whole concept of sysctl.conf is a bit flawed presently, IMO. Presently it's parsed once at startup, whereas it would be a better design if it contained settings that were applied when a module was loaded. To do that, modprobe would have to parse it for each module, which might be prohibitively slow - have never investigated. J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F-11 libvirt no longer creating firewall/iptables rules for virtual network?
Hi, I am not sure if I'm bumping into a bug, but on a new F-11 install I no longer see libvirt/virt-manager creating iptables rules for virtual machines - does anyone else see this? Cheers, Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-11 libvirt no longer creating firewall/iptables rules for virtual network?
2009/6/24 Patrick Mansfield pat...@aracnet.com: It happens for me ... when I didn't really want it. But I figured out I just need to allow samba ports in my general firewall rules, then the libvirt additions should just work (right now I'm just running iptables -I INPUT -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT after libvirt is running). What is iptables showing? I see virbr0 in mine and more. hm, odd. Wonder what is different about my config. I'm just using a very simple firewall setup with only ssh loaded. After the libvirtd service is started, I see no mention of virbr0 in iptables output: # iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywherestate RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywherestate NEW tcp dpt:ssh REJECT all -- anywhere anywhere reject-with icmp-host-prohibited Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination REJECT all -- anywhere anywhere reject-with icmp-host-prohibited Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination and yet ifconfig shows the virbr0 bridge has been created succesfully. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?
2009/6/11 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: I'm interested. Migration to texlive was discussed here before. Died after nobody wanted to try to inspect licences of all the packages, IIRC. Well, it's not so much that (Tom Callaway actually did go through a number of the files packaged). The problem is that the way in which texlive is put together makes it totally miserable from a distribution packaging perspective, essentially dumping a vast ammount of upstream tarballs into one tarball. This in turn makes it a really horrific job from a license auditing point of view. In my opinion, the root of the problem(s) from a distribution packaging POV is that texlive is itself a distribution with its own package format and manager etc. which has no integration with distribution packaging systems. Roughly and broadly speaking this is how things are right now (grossly oversimplified): 1) Texlive amalgamates and consumes vast numbers of upstream packages. 2) These packages are are unpacked and built into a build tree, and texlive folk also add their own modifications and patches to integrate the whole lot into a useable system. This build tree pretty much defines the filesystem layout. 3) the buildtree componenets are distributed as texlive packages using their packaging format. For distributions the buildtree is more or less made available in a couple of big tarballs. For any other software, Fedora would expect to be doing part 2 itself, and this is where the problem lies. What I believe we need to work on is expanding the tool set used for 2 by texlive such that they can be used inside RPM packaging in order to allow us to control packaging ourselves, working from the true upstreams, rather than the tarballs of the texlive sandbox. The trick is to also take advantage of the integration work done by the texlive folks. The problem is, this is an awful lot of work. I have made stabs at starting it, but, well, paid work and sleep are the enemy of Fedora contributions. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10
2009/6/10 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 18:41 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: If that's the case then it obviously makes sense to stick with grub legacy but given it's status who is going to be upstream for this? What I fear is a similar situation like we had with rpm where nobody really took ownership and vendors carried their own individual patches wich doesn't really work well with fedoras stay close to upstream mantra. For better or worse, we are effectively running a grub fork, and I see very little desire to change that... Is extlinux worth considering as a replacement? I know Foresight has gone that road. Jonathan (who knows nothing about bootloaders). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited
2009/5/31 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com: http://gregdek.livejournal.com/4008.html Doesn't clarify things for me. Yes, things have changed a fair bit since the OIN was initially set up - most notably the agreements that now exist between MS and Novell. Presumably, since Novell were a key player in the OIN, this now weakens the whole OIN effort, particularly w.r.t mono etc. Looks like this could really do with being revisited by Legal. Some interesting commentary on some aspects of the article originally linked to by the OP: http://www.osnews.com/story/21586/Mono_Moonlight_Patent_Encumbered_Or_Not_ J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited
2009/5/31 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 05/31/2009 06:28 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/5/31 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com: http://gregdek.livejournal.com/4008.html Doesn't clarify things for me. Yes, things have changed a fair bit since the OIN was initially set up - most notably the agreements that now exist between MS and Novell. Presumably, since Novell were a key player in the OIN, this now weakens the whole OIN effort, particularly w.r.t mono etc. Looks like this could really do with being revisited by Legal. If you have specific concerns, take it fedora-legal list. Developers cannot give you any legal opinions. I wasn't asking them to. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009
2009/5/27 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: Hi I put up all the suggested packages from different sources and their status at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009 Thanks for all your feedback. If you find anything more, feel free to drop me a mail. Why not combine this info with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selinux, Fail2ban, iptables BUG
2009/5/23 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: FC10/KDE Has anyone run across this problem run across this while running fail2ban-0.8.3-18.fc10.noarch ?? there are two Redhat bug reports on this same problem and they seem to think it's fixed, but it isn't. Bug # 499674 491444 This is a design problem with fail2ban and the way is (ab)uses gamin. See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1971871group_id=121032atid=689044 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] SSH login script - Help
2009/4/26 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com: It depends on what you are trying to do. If it is a task that you do often, then it is worth while. But for tasks like this, that you do infrequently, it is handy to have a key pair with a good pass phrase. You use ssh-agent and ssh-add to unlock the key before running the script, and then use ssh-add -d to lock it again when you are done. For the interested, there's a great 3 part series on the IBM developerworks site about ssh key management. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-keyc.html which, in particular, discusses the keychain script: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/ which is available in Fedora with a quick yum install keychain. HTH someone. J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
2009/4/4 Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? There's a number of options, all present in the fedora repositories. I suggest you try a few and see which you like. Here's some suggestions: 1) Programmers text editors such as emacs and vim. These are exceptionally powerful, but have a bit of a learning curve. 2) IDEs. There are several in fedora including anjuta, geany, kdevelop, eclipse. For eclipse you'll also want to install the eclipse-cdt package for c/c++ editing. That said, even the simple gedit, which is installed by default has good syntax highlighting for c/c++. Try a few, see what you're comfortable with. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?
2009/3/26 Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com: I am now wondering if this is due to the broken libX11 package libX11-1.1.5-1.fc10.i386 - a number of issues have followed that - and a new version (-2) is pushed to testing a few hours backmaybe that will fix things? For reference: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491813 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 VS vlc
2009/3/25 Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx: Asunto: F10 VS vlc Hi! I just noticed last night that vlc no longer displays its GUI. It still plays audio (haven't tried video yet), but I get no control panel from it anymore. I have to kill it (kill -9) to stop it, and there are no controls. As recently as this past weekend it was working fine. Did perhaps an update install a broken one? Any other ideas? Thanks! -- Fred, Please do me a favor. Install keepassx and see if it starts. I have vlc and have the same problem. I'm wondering if my keepassx problem is the same problem that vlc is having ie. no GUI displays. I found the sourceforge site where I need to file a bug report but I'm thinking this really isn't a keepassx (or vlc) bug at all but something else so I hesitate. It may be a libX11 bug - a similar bug (no GUI) has been reported for emacs, and only started occuring in the past day or so following a libX11 update. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 VS vlc
2009/3/25 Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx: Asunto: Re: F10 VS vlc 2009/3/25 Dennis Kaptain : Asunto: F10 VS vlc Hi! I just noticed last night that vlc no longer displays its GUI. It still plays audio (haven't tried video yet), but I get no control panel from it anymore. I have to kill it (kill -9) to stop it, and there are no controls. As recently as this past weekend it was working fine. Did perhaps an update install a broken one? Any other ideas? Thanks! -- Fred, Please do me a favor. Install keepassx and see if it starts. I have vlc and have the same problem. I'm wondering if my keepassx problem is the same problem that vlc is having ie. no GUI displays. I found the sourceforge site where I need to file a bug report but I'm thinking this really isn't a keepassx (or vlc) bug at all but something else so I hesitate. It may be a libX11 bug - a similar bug (no GUI) has been reported for emacs, and only started occuring in the past day or so following a libX11 update. That makes 3 applications affected , emacs, vlc, and keepassx. This is a list of packages I upgraded at the time things stopped working. [r...@confianza ~]# grep Mar 24 08 /var/log/yum.log Mar 24 08:54:15 Updated: selinux-policy-3.5.13-49.fc10.noarch Mar 24 08:54:51 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.5.13-49.fc10.noarch Mar 24 08:54:55 Updated: libX11-1.1.5-1.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:54:58 Updated: gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:54:58 Updated: lcms-libs-1.18-1.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:15 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:17 Updated: ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.55.20080908.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:17 Updated: postgresql-libs-8.3.7-1.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:18 Updated: lcms-1.18-1.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:23 Updated: libX11-devel-1.1.5-1.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:24 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:26 Updated: uniconvertor-1.1.3-5.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:27 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.2.0-3.fc10.i386 Mar 24 08:55:28 Updated: keepassx-0.3.4-3.fc10.i386 [r...@confianza ~]# libX11 and/or gtk2. These are the most likely suspects on the list. Yep. BZ entry of relevance: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492085 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LAN addresses in IPv6
2009/3/9 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: Hold your breath. I am working with some FC9 and FC10 boxes to work with shorewall6. My plan is to work out the resulting IP6tables and copy those to Centos boxes. At least those rules that should work with the Centos kernel. Out of interest, are you using the Fedora packages of shorewall6 for F-10? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: End of Saga WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
2009/2/10 Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org: Oh? And how come I can install the same set of software in Gentoo and not need an extra 50+MB of dependencies? I wish I had an example at the moment, but I don't. However, I'm sure one will pop up sooner or later. Because gentoo builds from source on your local machine, building in support for componenets as specified by your USE flags, whereas Fedora is a binary distribution, and dependencies are generated during the building of those binaries. Now, why don't my apples taste like oranges? Jonathan. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: emacs-wiki-mode
2009/1/27 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: Hi, Can anyone point me where I can get packages for emacs-wiki-mode for F10? I looked in rpmfind and pbone without any success. Muse mode is available in the Fedora repos. Muse supercedes wiki mode. Installation is easy: yum install emacs-muse and/or yum install xemacs-muse More info: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsMuse http://mwolson.org/projects/EmacsMuse.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Icecast RPM question
2009/1/19 Seann Clark nombran...@tsukinokage.net: All, I do not know who the maintainer of the icecast RPM for Fedora is, but I found some things that have been very odd since I installed Fedora 9. The solution to this is rather simple though, but here is the problem: [snip] Seann, you'd be far better off putting all that detail in a bugzilla report at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, and then the paclage maintainer will see it, and (hopefully) fix the Fedora packages. J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: jEdit on F10?
2009/1/15 Alan Evans ame.fed...@gmail.com: Has anyone successfully installed jEdit on Fedora 10? How did you do it? Honestly, I've never used it myself. Although it looks to be a very capable editor. Most of the developers at my company just switched to it (Windows users, all), so I thought it would be prudent to test it out myself. I just can't see a relatively painless way to install it. Have you tried enabling the jpackage repository? http://www.jpackage.org/ looks like they have jedit (have never installed/used it myself tho): http://www.jpackage.org/browser/rpm.php?jppversion=1.6id=5030 J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 and up: XDMCP support?
2008/12/22 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com: # cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf: # GDM configuration storage [xdmcp] Enable=True That needs to be true, not True. You also need gdm-2.24.1-4.fc10 which is in updates testing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evince can't show some Chinese characters in pdf file
2008/12/15 L yuan...@gmail.com: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:36 AM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:23 AM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I use evince on fedora 9. It works very well on most occasions, but failed to show Chinese characters in this pdf file (echoed as squares). I tried xpdf (did not fin xpdf-chinese-simplified rpm), have fonts-chinese installed (assume I have installed all Chinese support I can think of). Could someone offer help? attached is the exmaple pdf file. best Yua this is a follow-up. when this attachment is viewed at gmail, It was opened ok, not sure what viewer is used in gmail? In addition, This file can be viewed correctly using gv. I still prefer open it using evince. hope some fix? It's more likely to get fixed if you file a bug report against evince at http://gnome.bugzilla.org. You can help everyone by providing as much info as possible, including the pdf file you are having problems displaying. Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Emacs Fonts vs. F10
2008/12/6 Jonathan Ryshpan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I start emacs under F10 it displays everything in a very small font, and reports that it can't find any fonts. In particular running $ emacs --debug-init produces this line in the emacs message buffer: Warning: no fonts matching `-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1' available [2 times] while $ xfontsel -fn '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1' works just fine. Attempting to change the font to anything using Options-Set Font/Fontsel... always seems to always provoke the message from emacs mouse-set-font: Font not found Does anyone know what's going on? It looks like the system is missing an rpm, but it's not obvious which one. Emacs 22 (in F10) uses the legacy Xorg fonts, so you need to install those. Start with a yum install xorg-x11-fonts-misc and depending on what fonts you're wanting to use, you may need some of xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch This is a packaging bug with Emacs. Alas the emacs package is presently unmaintained, but there's a few of us awaiting approval to take the package over, at which point the bug will get fixed. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469220 HTH Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 - additional repositories
2008/12/2 Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you are a KDE fan, you might want to try kde-redhat repository http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/kde.repo I think the role of this repo these days is more for testing KDE packages which are shortly to appear in the Fedora repos - therefore enabling this repo is only adviseable if you're planning to test the packages and can deal with the possibility of breakage. [Rex, Kevin - apologies in advance if I have misrepresented kde-redhat.] Jonathan. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SANE can't find device if used through VNC - F9 (SOLVED)
2008/12/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm lost there Jonathan. Where do I start? Assuming you are running a gnome desktopthere is authorizations dialog in the system-preferences-system menu. you should be able to adjust the authorizations for device access... including scanners. In fact... as jeff says system-preferences-system-Authorisations Then in the left hand pane, scroll down until you see device-access. As a sub-item of that entry you'll see Directly access scanners. Select that. In the right hand pane you'll see (amongst other things) Implicit authorisations ... click the Edit button. Hopefully it is self explanatory from then on... Bingo. Thank you so much. Is it possible to grant these authorizations remotely through the terminal? EJ Have never done it myself - seems to involve editing an XML file, so you'd need to do a bit of reading to find the syntax. Have a look at: http://lwn.net/Articles/258592/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Trying to install NX
2008/12/2 matjazk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi jim this problem is related to nxagent. at startup it looks for font fixed, which is not present in fc10 distro any more. this is the reason why your session is terminated. to fix that just install fixed font on server side. you can do that by installing following package: xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.2-6.fc9.noarch.rpm package can be found at: ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/ppc/os/Packages/xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.2-6.fc9.noarch.rpm [1] That's a missing dependeny for the nx package - please file a bug so it gets fixed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SANE can't find device if used through VNC - F9
2008/12/1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I got a F9 machine that I access through VNC. If I'm at the machine, I can open SANE and scan without any problems. If I, however, do this remotely through VNC, SANE cannot find my HP scanner. I tried the same using X11 from a Mac and it didn't work either. However, if I login as root and launch SANE, it works, if finds the scanner and scans. Any idea how to solve this issue? Thanks, EJ Anybody? I'm still searching for an answer on this issue. Still unresolved. EJ This is probably ConsoleKit/PolicyKit in action. When you log in sat at the machine, you're a console user with physical access to the machine, and so you get permissions to access the hardware. When logging in remotely the permissions don't get set to allow you to access connected hardware. I suggest having a read about ConsoleKit/PolicyKit and working out what policy you need to change to get the permissions you want when logging in via VNC. Jonathan. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SANE can't find device if used through VNC - F9
2008/12/2 Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm lost there Jonathan. Where do I start? Assuming you are running a gnome desktopthere is authorizations dialog in the system-preferences-system menu. you should be able to adjust the authorizations for device access... including scanners. In fact... as jeff says system-preferences-system-Authorisations Then in the left hand pane, scroll down until you see device-access. As a sub-item of that entry you'll see Directly access scanners. Select that. In the right hand pane you'll see (amongst other things) Implicit authorisations ... click the Edit button. Hopefully it is self explanatory from then on... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssmtp problem
2008/10/7 Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:50:19PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: When I try to send mail as root to me, or as me to root, the following error ensues: send-mail: Cannot open localhost.localdomain:25. System mail is not delivered. Correct. Ssmtp is a mail forwarder, not an MTA. You have no local MTA running, therefore you cannot accept/deliver local mail. Put sendmail back. It was configured to do what you say you want out of the box. An alternative is to use esmtp (a lightweight ssmtp equivalent) with postfix for local mail delivery - see here: http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/manual.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssmtp problem
2008/10/7 Jonathan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/7 Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:50:19PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: When I try to send mail as root to me, or as me to root, the following error ensues: send-mail: Cannot open localhost.localdomain:25. System mail is not delivered. Correct. Ssmtp is a mail forwarder, not an MTA. You have no local MTA running, therefore you cannot accept/deliver local mail. Put sendmail back. It was configured to do what you say you want out of the box. An alternative is to use esmtp (a lightweight ssmtp equivalent) with postfix for local mail delivery - see here: oops, I meant procmail, not postfix. http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/manual.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kvm?
2008/9/25 Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using virtualbox, and it's pretty nice. I'm wondering if any of the more open virtualization efforts have progressed to the point that I'd want to try replacing virtualbox. What I'm interested in is: 1) Able to run windoze/linux guest on linux x86_64 host 2) good performance (on modern hardware) 3) Decent gui Last I checked, #3 was not there. Virtualbox has a good gui for managing machines. I use kvm to run windows on a daily basis, and it seems fine to me. virt-manager present a nice gui. But I've never used VB, so can't compare. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
2008/8/21 Bjoern Tore Sund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It has now been a full week since the first announcement that Fedora had infrastructure problems and to stop updating systems. Since then there has been two updates to the announcement, none of which have modified the don't update advice and noen of which has been specific as to the exact nature of the problems. At one point we received a list of servers, but not services, which were back up and running. The University of Bergen has 500 linux clients running Fedora. We average one reinstall/fresh install per day, often doing quite a lot more. Installs and reinstalls has had to stop completely, nightly updates have stopped, and until the nature of the problem is revealed we don't even know for certain whether it is safe for our IT staff to type admin passwords to our (RHEL-based, for the most part) servers from these work stations. Sometimes unfortunate events happen beyond anyone's control. We understand this as well as anyone. We trust the assurances that the infrastructure team is working hard on resolving the matter and are greatful to them for the job they do. So far nothing that has happened with this issue has reflected poorly on them. Sadly, the same cannot be said about the Management of the Fedora project. Their choice of complete non-disclosure is enough to eradicate any and all confidence that Fedora is a trustworthy platform for Linux installations. What information they have released has been deliberately vague and, frankly, useless. For a day or two to secure things this may be a workable strategy. For a full week, not giving the community participants any chance whatsoever to protect themselves from threats indicated but not specified? This is poor management and poor judgement and reflects very badly not only on the Fedora project but on Fedora's RedHat sponsor as well. The issue is more than serious enough and has gone on for more than long enough that someone higher up the scale should have stepped in a long time ago and made sure that all relevant info was released to the community. We strongly encourage both the Fedora management and RedHat as a Fedora sponsor to immediately release any and all information relating to the current infrastructure problems. I suspect that if you really want a response to this, you'll need to send it to the fedora-advisory-board http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board Jonathan. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Kernel Version
2008/8/21 Robert C Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have been using Windows for over 15 years but I'm new to Linux. I recently installed Fedora 9 from a Live CD and allowed it to update itself over the net. I am trying to find out my kernel version. On the GNOME desktop from the top menu bar I select System -- About This Computer. That window has a line that says Kernel Linux 2.6.27-0.244.rc2.git1.fc10.i686. Is this the kernel version? That suggests that somehow after installing Fedora 9 (the current stable release) you enabled the development software repository and updated to the current development (rawhide) version - I really don't think you wanted to do this if you're new to linux, this is only suitable for developers and testers. You should really consider reinstalling Fedora 9 and not enabling the development repositories. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: b43 not working with latest kernel 2.6.25.9-76
2008/7/3 Nicolae Ghimbovschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've submitted this bug to bugzilla. Bug number? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: empty log files
2008/7/1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't recall doing anything 'wrong' but I now notice most of my log files are, unexpectedly, empty (see example, below). Anybody care to suggest how I can debug why this is so? Thanks, M Did you by chance happen to install vmware? Installing vmware seems to change the SEli9nux context of /etc/services, which prevents syslog from working. To fix: 1) run /sbin/restorecon -v /etc/services 2) /sbin/service syslog restart HTH, Jonathan. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gnome desktop XDMCP in domU
2008/6/28 David Hláčik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, i have Fedora 9 on xen as domU, i have installed yum groupinstall Gnome Desktop ... . I want to access Gnome Desktoup through XDMCP protocol, but unfortunately X server will not start when there is no graphical output where to start. How can i solve this problem? And of course i have edited gdm/custom.conf and added to [XDMCP] Enable = True. Thanks in advance! XDMCP doesn't currently work with the GDM in F-9. I believe it does with KDM, but haven't triedd myself. HTH. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh tunnel problems
2008/6/24 Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't followed this thread closely but... On the server that does not work do you know if the line AllowTcpForwarding yes is present in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? --Mike I checked and it was set to no but commented. I set it to yes and un-commented it, restarted the network, but still same error message. I will have more time tomorrow to redo and include -v, etc. You did also restart the sshd service, right? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: texlive problems
2008/6/17 Norman Gaywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=229180 Interesting read. That thread seems to indicate that the problem has been fixed upstream and it was touch and go if the update would make it to the first release of F9. Seems this problem will go away eventually. It may have been forgotten by the packager - I recommend you file a bug report at bugzilla.redhat.com about this. [snip] 3. There seems to be a problem with pdf metapost processing. I haven't tracked this down fully yet but a collection of metapost and latex files that process correctly with tetex, produces this: $ pdflatex premath.tex ! Package graphics Error: Cannot convert premath-1.mps from MPS to PDF. (graphics)The support file `supp-pdf.tex' is missing. Still no solution for this. However, On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 07:26:30PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: $ rpm -qf `locate supp-pdf` texlive-texmf-doc-2007-17.fc9.noarch locate supp-pdf finds: /usr/share/texmf/doc/pdftex/manual/samplepdf/supp-pdf.tex as part of the texlive-texmf-doc-2007-17.fc9 package. This path is not searched in normal latex processing. This seems like a bug, please report this at bugzilla as well. J. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Evolution Exchange breakage
2008/6/7 Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Suddenly, Evolution has stopped working with the exchange connector. Whenever I try to read a folder, I get a pop-up with Error while Refreshing folder (or Error while opening folder ...) Lost connection to Evolution Exchange backend process Sometimes I get a folder doesn't exist message. Calendars seem to be OK. I tried using the previous kernel, and I tried backing out the latest Evolution update, downgrading to evolution-2.12.3-4.fc8.x86_64.rpm, but neither helps. Anybody else seeing this? Any suggestions? Try: evolution --force shutdown cd ~/.evolution rm -rvf exchange cd ~/.evolution/mail rm -rvf exchange -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Evolution Exchange breakage
2008/6/8 Jonathan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try: evolution --force shutdown Sorry, that should be evolution --force-shutdown cd ~/.evolution rm -rvf exchange cd ~/.evolution/mail rm -rvf exchange -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Evolution Exchange breakage [RESOLVED]
2008/6/8 Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 19:49 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2008/6/8 Jonathan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try: evolution --force shutdown Sorry, that should be evolution --force-shutdown cd ~/.evolution rm -rvf exchange cd ~/.evolution/mail rm -rvf exchange Yep, that appears to have taken care of it. Thanks! Takes a couple hours to get everything synchronized again, though... Really? Do you have a slow internet connection to the exchange server or a lot of mail or both? It takes a few seconds for me (couple of thousand mails only, though). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Evolution lockup
2008/6/2 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Every time I try to compose a new message in Evolution, it locks up. I have to force quit to kill it and then restart it. Whenever this happens I get the following message in /var/log/messages: gnome-keyring-daemon[2851]: couldn't write 139 bytes to client : Broken pipe gnome-keyring-daemon[2851]: couldn't read 4 bytes from client Anyone else having this problem? # rpm -qa | grep evolution evolution-data-server-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-data-server-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386 evolution-data-server-debuginfo-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-data-server-devel-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386 evolution-data-server-doc-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386 evolution-webcal-2.21.92-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-data-server-devel-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-webcal-debuginfo-2.21.92-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-spamassassin-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-debuginfo-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-conduits-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 evolution-exchange-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-bogofilter-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64 # rpm -qa | grep keyring gnome-python2-gnomekeyring-2.22.0-2.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-devel-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-pam-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-2.22.1-1.fc9.i386 Yes I see exactly the same thing with these versions (all updates including testing): rpm -qa | grep evolution evolution-data-server-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-webcal-2.21.92-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64 evolution-exchange-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64 # rpm -qa | grep keyring gnome-keyring-manager-2.20.0-2.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-pam-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 gnome-python2-gnomekeyring-2.22.0-2.fc9.x86_64 gnome-keyring-2.22.1-1.fc9.x86_64 In /var/log/messages: Jun 4 10:14:31 localhost gnome-keyring-daemon[2910]: couldn't read 4 bytes from client: repeated many times. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: spec hacks for vanilla and git-based kernel rpm builds
On 02/07/07, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another reason I'd like to get this done for F8. I'd still really like us to ship 2.6.23 for f8, but with the shorter devel schedule, it's unclear if it's going to land upstream in time. We've shipped -rc's as GA kernels before, but I always felt 'dirty' for doing this (especially when we name them incorrectly). Shipping it with 'rc3' or whatever in the title seems a little more honest at least about what we're shipping, and at the same time, it prevents bad reviewers from writing Fedora still ships with a 2.6.22 kernel. Sort of related to this - it's (usually? often?) the case that the shipped kernel is based on a stable point release - eg. on this F-7 box, the kernel is based on 2.6.21.2 according to the %changelog, and yet the kernel rpm is kernel-2.6.21-1.3228. Would it not be sensible to also add that last point number? Jonathan. ps. Sorry to Dave for sending this mail to him alone rather than the list pps. Why does this list not set the Reply-To to the list rather than the message sender? ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Rethinking the Ralink wireless driver situation
Hi, In F-7 a decision was made to bundle in the rt2x00 wireless drivers for Ralink cards. I contend this was a poor decision because, simply put, they do not work. Not for any ralink chipset device I have tried (and I've tried several). Upstream rt2x00 developers have also gone on a 3 month development hiatus. See: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ But, upstream also maintains what they refer to as enhanced legacy drivers - basically the open source drivers provided by Ralink but polished to be more consistent with general use (eg. ripping out the odd /etc/Wireless configuration tree, and placing firmware in /lib/firmware). This work *really* well on all devices I have tried for which rtx00 does not work. It's a hassle for an end user to install them though, as it involves blacklisting the broken rtx00 modules. Not a big deal, but it wrecks the out of the box experience. So, please please consider bundling the rt2400, rt2500, rt2470, rt61 and rt73 drivers for F-8 and ditching rt2x00 until they make it into the upstream kernel. Jonathan. ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
