default addresses in thunderbird
Ever since Thunderbird went to 3.0 (or just before that), I've had this problem: When composing a new email, I type in a part of the name of recipient and it auto-suggests the emails -- the problem is that the ALTERNATE emails are the first ones in the suggestion. I write an email to my boss, and Thunderbird suggests his pesonal email as the default. Anyone else see this or is it just me? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
On 01/04/2010 04:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The LiveCD version basic but functional. The LiveCD is fairly basic, yes, but it still installs ~1.5G if I remember correctly. It has a lot of packages that are not always necessary, like gimp and multimedia packages. I wanted to set up a fileserver (the hardware doesn't even have a normal video output, only a header on the motherboard) and had to remove a bunch of packages to trim the fat. I know there's a spin of Fedora for appliances -- that one definitely sounds and looks minimal -- but it's not a bootable/installable CD. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
On 12/31/2009 09:10 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: And leaves you with no Fedora patches and the disk performance regression issues of 2.6.32. Also a tainted kernel which some developers will ignore if you get a trace, etc. I thought it's only tainted if there are non-GPL modules compiled in. For instance, I saw the tainted message whenever I insmod'ed fglrx driver -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't burn DVDs
On 12/31/2009 04:52 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: I just tried burning a DVD (authored by DeVeDe) and both K3b and GnomeBaker fail to start writing. Clean boot doesn't help, neither does lowering the write speed to 4x. Anyone else having this problem? That's because the message says device not ready and no change in parameters will make it work until you address that. Bad media, bad cable, bad burner, I can't tell. It's likely to be hardware, but I don't normally use the frontends for the tools, so you may have made a mistake in starting the run. Not at all, CDs burn just fine. It's only the DVDs that don't burn. I've seen a similar problem many times with fresh kernels. It comes and goes.. and annoys the hell out of me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
On 12/30/2009 07:39 PM, john wendel wrote: F11 with kernel.org 2.6.32.2 + Nvidia driver working fine here. You really should learn to build a kernel from sources, once you get the config file done, the rest is easy. I've done this way: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel But don't think it'll work so easily with vanilla - there's a boatload of patches from redhat, I don't really want to check myself which ones need to be applied and which don't. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
On 12/30/2009 06:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they enhance the video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let the developers have the holiday off, and hopefully they will have run 2.6.32 on their laptops and be motivated to work on it. A new year is coming. Ouch, good point :D -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GRUB2?
On 12/29/2009 09:22 AM, Eric Brunson wrote: Is it in the roadmap to move from GRUB Legacy to GRUB2? Thanks, e. yum info grub2 yum install grub2 HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where is 2.6.32?
How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't burn DVDs
I just tried burning a DVD (authored by DeVeDe) and both K3b and
GnomeBaker fail to start writing. Clean boot doesn't help, neither does
lowering the write speed to 4x.
Anyone else having this problem?
kernel:
2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
dmesg:
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range
end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
...
warning: `growisofs' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:80/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 dma 32768 out
cdb 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
res 40/00:02:00:18:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
ata2.00: status: { DRDY }
ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
ata2: soft resetting link
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata2: EH complete
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Re: init: illegal runlevel (null)
On 12/17/2009 08:41 AM, Luca wrote: #!/bin/bash cd /tmp mkdir newrootfs mount rootfs.img newrootfs cd newrootfs mkdir oldrootfs pivot_root . oldrootfs exec chroot . sh -c 'exec /sbin/init' dev/console dev/console 21 I can see the new root is rootfs, but still there is something not working. When I run the script I get the message init: illegal runlevel (null) It looks like you think /sbin/init does something other than what it really does. http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/#runlevel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
no kernel in updates-testing?
How come I don't see fresh kernel versions in updates-testing? Should I be looking elsewhere? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: no kernel in updates-testing?
On 12/15/2009 09:44 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 15/12/09 17:42, Konstantin Svist wrote: How come I don't see fresh kernel versions in updates-testing? Should I be looking elsewhere? The infrastructure just moved house. Give them a chance. Sorry, I must've missed that. What's the new infrastructure? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Plan for Thunderbird in F12?
On 12/07/2009 04:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/08/2009 05:35 AM, Steven Stern wrote: We've been running on Thunderbird 3, beta 4 for a while now. The current beta release is RC2, released on 12/1. Is the plan to stay on beta 4 until the release of version 3 or will the updates repo pick up the release candidates? The latest RC is already in updates-testing repo. # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update thunderbird Rahul And 3.0 was just released today. Good show. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SCP works one way only
On 11/17/2009 10:11 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Are there any other firewalls in the route between the two? That has been the most common problem I've run into when scp stalls like that. I've not bothered sorting out which part of my firewall was doing it, just that it was the firewall. Right, I've disabled all firewalls between the two systems - same result. Also I've tried scping through loopback (localhost and 192.168..) - both of these work. I'm starting to suspect it might be because of difference of openssl versions -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SCP works one way only
On 11/17/2009 10:36 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Konstantin Svistfry@gmail.com wrote: For some reason, I can only SCP files off my new NAS, not to it. I've tried both using it as a server and as a client with same result. ailingListGuidelines so, there is a sshd running on that NAS and it's not working? It sounds like only the client side is working. ~af No, the server is working. I'm able to scp to/from localhost without any problems. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XBMC for Fedora
On 11/16/2009 11:01 AM, Rolf Fokkens wrote: Anyhow, given the fact that there isn't an XBMC RPM in one of the mentioned repositories, I built it myself based on an RPM by Scott Harvanek. It's here: http://rolffokkens.dyndns.org/ I have been running XMBC on F10 for a while now. At first, I used some fixes workarounds from some wiki page (not sure where it is anymore), but later on it compiled reasonably well straight from their SVN tree. They have a readme which tells you which packages are necessary and config script tells you about some missing packages as well. Their main target is ubuntu, but the packages are usually similarly named. It's running very stable on mij x86_64 Fedora 11 system, both music and video's run smoothly. Somehow however I can't play physical media like DVD's and CD's, as XBMC doesn't seem te be aware of them. Could be a libcdio-0.18 related problem. I would recompile a version from SVN. It's not as bad as it sounds ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XBMC for Fedora
On 11/16/2009 11:01 AM, Rolf Fokkens wrote: Anyhow, given the fact that there isn't an XBMC RPM in one of the mentioned repositories, I built it myself based on an RPM by Scott Harvanek. It's here: http://rolffokkens.dyndns.org/ I have been running XMBC on F10 for a while now. At first, I used some fixes workarounds from some wiki page (not sure where it is anymore), but later on it compiled reasonably well straight from their SVN tree. There's a readme which tells you which packages are necessary and config script tells you about some missing packages as well. Their main target is ubuntu, but the packages are usually similarly named. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SCP works one way only
For some reason, I can only SCP files off my new NAS, not to it. I've tried both using it as a server and as a client with same result. When sending a file to it from another computer, scp reports a certain amount transferred (1.9M) and then immediately stalls. The target file stays 0-bytes in length. When trying to download a file from another computer, scp reports 0 bytes transferred. Other download commands (e.g. yum update) work just fine. arch: x86_64 P.S. The install in question is F12, but since it's 1 day away from release, I'm asking here. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SCP works one way only
On 11/16/2009 05:51 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Try disabling iptables (service iptables stop) and try again. Doesn't make a difference -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Affraid to Upgrade from FC9 to FC12
On 11/12/2009 09:43 AM, Roger wrote: The question really comes down to how important the constant upgrades really are to each of us. Not quite. I lived very happily with F8 (KDE3.5) until 11 came out. Mind you, it was because KDE4 sucked, but that's another discussion. By F11, though, there was 0 support for F8 - no security fixes, no shiny new features (20sec boot, anyone?). At some point I want to get the new stuff. Golly I have difficulty with upgrades because the kmod-nvidia and kernel upgrades have a time difference and Blender stops working. I could never get akmod-nvidia working successfully. That sucks :( At least AMD has released the necessary info for improving radeon driver - so far it works on all ATI cards I have. Don't know if you've heard, but nvidia is not planning to do the same for their cards. Your first * problem is solved with a spare hard drive which lets you experiment. What if you spent 10 percent of your time every week on the new op system, a couple of weeks and it's done. This allows me to get the feel of the new system, yes - but it doesn't provide the complete picture. And just try telling my boss I'll spend 10% of my time tweaking the new system - he'll axe-murder you. From what you wrote in the first email, it's not the upgrade but the tweeking that will take your time as it did for your current operating system and if you made notes of successful alterations you have a good starting point for the tweeks. It sounds like you think I'm the OP; I'm not :) But your point is valid - I also make a lot of tweaks in my system. And sure, it's not hard redoing all that work. But my point was -- why should I have to?? Most programs can be upgraded in-place and keep using the previously defined settings. I've cleaned up/merged many .rpmnew and .rpmsave configs without any problems. And I've seen a new package completely replace an old package in a regular update. So what's the goal/point of upgrades? Just saying... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Extra mouse buttons
Hi all, Is there a good way to make the extra mouse buttons work in F11/F12? In F8 I used something called btnx to map buttons to actions, is that still the way to go? BTW, I use a Logitech VX Revolution. Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extra mouse buttons
On 11/12/2009 04:51 PM, suvayu ali wrote: In my F11 install it works without any tweaks. I use XFCE. Before F11 I had to do some customizations in xorg.conf. Try this url, http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/mouse5.html But i think this is an outdated way to make this work, it should just work. PS: I use a Logitech G5 The basic buttons work perfectly for me, it's the extra buttons that I want to use. E.g. tilting the wheel left/right. Where do you set actions for those? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Affraid to Upgrade from FC9 to FC12
On 11/12/2009 01:08 AM, Roger wrote: Would it be possible to install another hard drive and fresh install F12 on that, tweek it, get it how you want then copy your files over, then use the F9 hard drive as a back up. Roger rant This is the part I hate most about these upgrades. All options result in downtime. * Bite the bullet and upgrade production system. Do a backup first, in case new system doesn't work too well. Problem: if I run the new system for a month and then decide it's not ready for me yet, all the work I've done in that month will need to be migrated back into the old install. * Install on 2nd HD/computer to see how it handles/etc. In this case, I have to take time to boot into 2nd environment and play around, then boot back to prod to do my work. Too much time wasted in new environment. What I'd really like is incremental changes instead of upgrades - kind of how linux moved away from the new version approach. Of course that's not so easy with a large distribution like this. But maybe it's doable. /rant -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Hotswapping SATA question
On 11/10/2009 09:42 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: I just hot swapped all (including boot and swap!) the drives out of my F10 server for an upgrade. I used the raid tools to cleanly fail and remove the drive, then just pulled them out. The syslog showed them hardware-failing. Then I plugged the new ones in. The syslog showed them being detected. fdisk, raid add, done! This was with the sata_mv driver, rocketraid 1820a card. What are the raid tools? And if there isn't a man page, how do you use them? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Hotswapping SATA question
How does one go about hotplugging/hotswapping SATA drives in Fedora? I just got a new NAS box with hotswapping capabilities (HP EX470) and would like to know how it works, usually. Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Hotswapping SATA question
On 11/09/2009 09:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: How does one go about hotplugging/hotswapping SATA drives in Fedora? I just got a new NAS box with hotswapping capabilities (HP EX470) and would like to know how it works, usually. This may not apply to your situation. But, in my case it depends on the HW being used. My system has 3ware Inc 9550SX controllers and the rebuilds are handled in the controller after hot swapping. No manual intervention is needed. The progress of the operation can be monitored on the Web Interface supplied by 3ware. Additionally, one can do admin functions from the Web Interface. I guess the question isare you interested in HW based RAID and hot-swapping or are you planning on SW based? Seems this HP server comes preloaded with Windows Home Server. Don't have a clue how it plays with Linux should you load it on it OK...couldn't resist using google http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/ Ubuntu in usebut should provide clues Thanks, I know of that page :) Actually it's outdated somewhat - at the very least, F12 works reasonably well on the box (NIC ) The server doesn't support hardware RAID, it uses some WHS' feature which simply duplicates directories to multiple disks for redundancy but otherwise uses striping. It supports hotswapping, though - so I'd like to use SW RAID with hotswapping -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Countdown is on... 13 days until F12 stable.
On 11/04/2009 12:40 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: 13 days until Fedora 12 hits the streets. (November 17th, according to this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/Schedule) I am looking forward to XI2, which I am hoping will allow my wife and I to work on the same computer in the same session. That would be pretty darn neat. I am wondering what versions of Qt, X11 and Qt F12 will ship with. Otherwise, I am looking forward to seeing how much progress has been made with everything since F11. For me its not usually the big headline stuff that makes the upgrades worthwhile, its the little stuff everywhere. And Fedora/KDE seem to be really good making huge strides with stuff lately. I can't wait to run F12 on my production machine. Will there be a way to upgrade F11 to F12? And if I don't like F12, will there be a way to go back to F11? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] run command via ssh - problem
On 11/04/2009 05:10 AM, Dan Track wrote: Hi, I'm running a command like this: for i in server1 server2;do ssh r...@$i `hostname`;done. However the hostname command always outputs the hostname of the server that the above command is run from. I'd like to know how to run this hostname command so that it actually runs on server 1, server2 etc.. Thanks Dan Content inside double quotes is evaluated by shell, so backtick expansion happens on localhost. Use single quotes, instead, like so: for i in server1 server2;do ssh r...@$i '`hostname`';done HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
resolution messed up
After an update a few days ago my XFCE desktop started resizing to odd resolutions after login. The splash says starting xfce4-power-manager, but I've tried renaming the file so it doesn't start and the resolution still gets messed up. As a workaround, I have a script which runs xrandr to set the right resolution but I'm hoping it'll get fixed before too long. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Heads up: Brute force attacks on the rise recently
On 10/28/2009 04:03 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: -Make sure your root password is not a dictionary word. -Add iptables rules to limit multiple connections on SSH to 4 within a minute.[1] Perhaps this needs to become a Fedora default. -Update your system. -Use SELinux. Depending on situation, other measures to contain this problem: * moving ssh to a different port (something 1024) brute force scripts will usually check port 22 only - a different port will likely be checked only if attack is targeted * switching to public/private key authentication even with a bad password, the private key is much more secure against a script kiddie. It helps against targeted attacks too, but can't rule them out. Also, IIRC, in F10/11 SSHd is disabled by default. That could be because I usually use LiveCD install, though. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: External eSATA drive downgraded to 1.5Gbs
On 10/24/2009 05:12 AM, Andy Campbell wrote:
I've noticed that an external eSATA drive I use for backups
gets downgraded to 1.5Gbs, with errors when I boot.
+ I'm running Fedora 11 (64bit ).
+ The eSATA port is from a JMicron JMB361, which is also used
for two PATA DVD drives - if that makes any difference.
+ The drive is an Icy Box - Ib-390stus-b enclosure.
+ In the BIOS, I've select AHCI.
+ I've tried booting with noapic acpi=off
+ The drive seems to work fine at 1.5GBps, but I'd
rather have the full speed its capable off.
Any ideas on the meaning of the errors ...
[trantor] ~ $dmesg | grep ata7
ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m8...@0xfeafe000 port 0xfeafe100 irq 10
ata7: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata7.00: ATA-8: WDC WD10EACS-00D6B1, 01.01A01, max UDMA/133
ata7.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
sda:6ata7.00: configured for UDMA/133
sde:3ata7.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x780100 action 0x6
ata7.00: irq_stat 0x0800
ata7: SError: { UnrecovData 10B8B Dispar BadCRC Handshk }
ata7.00: cmd 60/08:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in
ata7.00: status: { DRDY }
ata7: hard resetting link
ata7: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata7.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x100)
ata7.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
ata7: hard resetting link
ata7: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata7.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata7: EH complete
ata7: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
ata7.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x780100 action 0x6
ata7.00: irq_stat 0x0800
ata7: SError: { UnrecovData 10B8B Dispar BadCRC Handshk }
ata7.00: cmd 60/08:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in
ata7.00: status: { DRDY }
ata7: hard resetting link
ata7: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
ata7.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata7: EH complete
Thanks
Andy
I've seen this error come up many times on my servers and I've seen
other people asking about it on this list -- but there are never any
answers.
I think it's time to ask on kernel list, maybe they can tell us something.
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Re: External eSATA drive downgraded to 1.5Gbs
On 10/26/2009 11:32 AM, Kam Leo wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Andy Campbell
[snip]
[trantor] ~ $dmesg | grep ata7
ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m8...@0xfeafe000 port 0xfeafe100 irq 10
ata7: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata7.00: ATA-8: WDC WD10EACS-00D6B1, 01.01A01, max UDMA/133
ata7.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
sda:6ata7.00: configured for UDMA/133
sde:3ata7.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x780100 action 0x6
ata7.00: irq_stat 0x0800
ata7: SError: { UnrecovData 10B8B Dispar BadCRC Handshk }
^
|
This says that your controller and external drive can not reliably
communicate at 3Gbps.
Things to do to troubleshoot problem:
1. Make sure that your computer and external drive have proper
electrical ground. Suggest both be plugged into same electrical outlet
or power strip. Use a tester (it's a three prong device with three
indicator lights) to verify that the AC is wired correctly.
2. Check your cable. Is it the proper length, in good condition,
making good connection, etc.?
3. Exchange or replace the cable.
4. Test your drive on a different computer.
[snip]
My drives are internal SATA I have multiple nodes all showing this
message:
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: qc timeout (cmd 0xa0)
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: cmd
a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 tag 0
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: res
51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x5 (timeout)
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: status: { DRDY ERR }
Oct 25 04:31:02 rele406 kernel: ata5: link is slow to respond, please be
patient (ready=0)
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: device not ready (errno=-16),
forcing hardreset
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: soft resetting link
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: configured for UDMA/33
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: EH complete
Not quite the same thing, of course.. but hoping you can tell me
something about it.
All drives motheboards are same model. All are showing this error
message at seemingly random intervals.
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Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
On 10/17/2009 09:50 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: Today I used a compressor to clean up my cooler. That did not help alot. (There wasn't much dust inside). My cpu temp still goes up from 40° to 47° in ~ 2 minutes which causes the fan to start. Since the cpu has basically nothing to do and the cooler is clean, I am wondering if this could be some gfx related issue. Is there some known GPU load on a GM965/GL960 intel chip with KMS being enabled? Or may this be related to my (ageing) battery being plugged in? regards Christoph Install and run powertop It shows which program/driver/etc causes a lot of CPU wakeups. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
On 10/17/2009 02:31 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: Install and run powertop It shows which program/driver/etc causes a lot of CPU wakeups. I just followed my own advice and noticed that my CPU was taking a lot of time in higher P-states. Turned out xfce power manager wasn't running for some reason (probably crashed, I've been playing/recompiling it) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
On 10/16/2009 07:48 AM, Tim wrote: You have a fan-cooled backlight? Some laptops need the lid left open while running, as their lid blocks the airflow. Some of those laptops deliberately make the fan run when the lid's shut, others of them leave it up to you to do something about it. No, it's just that the backlight is at the bottom of the screen and the CPU and its cooling air intakes are at the top of the keyboard. When the lid is closed, the air intake ports suck in the air pre-warmed by the backlight. Obviously, the designers didn't imagine that a software bug would prevent backlight from working. As I mentioned, when the backlight turns off by the BIOS, laptop gets quite cool. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
On 10/16/2009 02:41 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: I am aware of that dust thing (I am going to give a compressor a try), but the heat goes up when the notebook and the fan is idle. That should not have anything to do with dust, right? I feel comfortable opening up my electronics, so I open up the laptop before using compressed air. When the heatsinks are all in the open, it's much easier to see where you need to blow or wipe (I use q-tips too). Otherwise, you're risking blowing the dust deeper into the laptop. HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CPU temperature Thinkpad R61
On 10/15/2009 03:19 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I just wondered why my fan always runs after a while. After closing firefox (which took 50% cpu along with X) I now have a load of roughly 0.06 - barely nothing computed at all. Both cores are in the lowest config and yet my cpu temperature goes from 42°C to 47°C in roughly 2 minutes (and back by fan activity). I would understand this if there was some load, but what causes my CPU to heat if it does nothing? Design failure? Has anybody seen such a thing? regards Christoph I get similar behavior with my Dell laptop. The cause here is that the radeon driver doesn't shut off my backlight when the lid is closed, so the temperature stays fairly high -- and the CPU fan attempts to lower it constantly. When I boot with nomodeset (so that the BIOS can take care of backlight), the fan goes off/quiet after a while -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root mail [SOLVED]
On 10/13/2009 12:08 AM, Christoph Höger wrote: Nice to here this, but how do you sendmail to a real mta outside your box then (aka: How does esmtp decide to route without aliases)? Well, in this case I don't really need to send mail directly from the box. From what I understand, esmtp only uses procmail for local mail, so I could set up a real SMTP server for esmtp to use, as well. I think what esmtp does is check for the @ symbol. If found, it sends mail through SMTP server. If not, it uses procmail. Not sure why aliases need to be involved in this... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [FYI] Laptop/netbook keyboard on/off toggle of WiFi transmitter stopped working with Fedora's 2.6.30 kernel
On 10/09/2009 11:27 AM, Mike Fleetwood wrote: Under kernel 2.6.30 the rfkill module is automatically loaded, however the rfkill_input module is never loaded. I'm on 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586, Dell Inspiron e1505. Just like you, I only see rfkill in lsmod $ lsmod |grep kill rfkill 8928 5 iwlcore,dell_laptop But my wifi kill switch still works (it so happens that it's also Fn+F2 on this model) I don't know if it makes any difference, but I use the rfkill switch to turn off bluetooth only. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root mail [SOLVED]
On 10/12/2009 03:35 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: Konstantin Svist kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 12. lokakuuta 2009): I don't want the localhost mail to go out through a real smtp server, and I'm not too keen on running a huge mailing package like sendmail or postfix on my laptop. What are my options? Use esmtp, it handles local mail delivery in addition to sending mail to upstream servers. It's available in Fedora, yum install esmtp. For documentation see: http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/doc.html Thanks, I think that works. Here's what I did: * install esmtp-local-delivery (it installs procmail) * edit /etc/esmtprc to include this line: mda procmail -d user (where user is my underprivileged username) Esmtp does't use aliases, but by lucky coincidence the user is specified right there in the procmail command line :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
root mail
Hi all, I have a problem with unix mail Whenever there's a cron failure, etc. mail gets sent to root on localhost. It seems that it tries to use sendmail, except I have ssmtp set up in the alternatives. From reading the docs, it looks like ssmtp doesn't support unix mail. I don't want the localhost mail to go out through a real smtp server, and I'm not too keen on running a huge mailing package like sendmail or postfix on my laptop. What are my options? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - Cannot Set Screen Resolution
On 10/09/2009 10:07 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: File a bug! Provide whatever logs or output the devs request. Yeah, a lot of good *that* does... I filed one on 2008-02-14 about my quirky monitor - that went nowhere fast. Finally, on 2009-09-09 I found a mode that works and posted it in that bug/. /A month passed since that last update and still no change/. /Instead, I have a script that runs at login and does all the necessary crap for my 2nd monitor to start working. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - Cannot Set Screen Resolution
On 10/09/2009 10:17 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 10/09/2009 10:07 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: File a bug! Provide whatever logs or output the devs request. Yeah, a lot of good *that* does... I filed one on 2008-02-14 about my quirky monitor - that went nowhere fast. Finally, on 2009-09-09 I found a mode that works and posted it in that bug/. /A month passed since that last update and still no change/. /Instead, I have a script that runs at login and does all the necessary crap for my 2nd monitor to start working. And the lovely new Thunderbird 3b4 apparently resets your settings to compose messages in HTML by default. Just lovely. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - Cannot Set Screen Resolution
On 10/09/2009 10:27 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 10/09/2009 01:19 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: And the lovely new Thunderbird 3b4 apparently resets your settings to compose messages in HTML by default. Just lovely. It doesn't do that for me. Pretty sure this happened after I installed F11 copied my ~/.thunderbird dir to the new install. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: easiest way to replace hard drive?
On 10/08/2009 09:48 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, Is there an easy way to transfer a system from one drive (holding boot, swap, lvm partitions, in the default F11 layout) to a different hard drive, if the new drive is smaller? If the new drive is larger, dd could be used in a fairly straightforward way. However, I want to try replacing a 160 GB hard drive with an Intel 80 GB solid-state drive, just for fun... I suspect a re-install might be easier. - Mike gparted (or qtparted) will do what you want. I don't remember if it can resize the partitions as you copy them, but in the worst case you can resize first then copy. or you can use cp -a to copy over all necessary files and run grub-install to restore the grub boot loader if it's installed in MBR (default) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: easiest way to replace hard drive?
On 10/08/2009 10:47 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 10/08/2009 10:31 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 10/08/2009 09:48 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, Is there an easy way to transfer a system from one drive (holding boot, swap, lvm partitions, in the default F11 layout) to a different hard drive, if the new drive is smaller? If the new drive is larger, dd could be used in a fairly straightforward way. However, I want to try replacing a 160 GB hard drive with an Intel 80 GB solid-state drive, just for fun... I suspect a re-install might be easier. - Mike gparted (or qtparted) will do what you want. I don't remember if it can resize the partitions as you copy them, but in the worst case you can resize first then copy. or you can use cp -a to copy over all necessary files and run grub-install to restore the grub boot loader if it's installed in MBR (default) There is a potential problem when using partition resizing - it can mess up the partition tables and render the drive unbootable - need to be careful here, as it bit me in the a..! FWIW, Dan Really? I've never had gparted bite me in the ass like that. Happened a few times with PartitionMagic in the past, though. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
turning off multi-finger scrolling
Hi, I'm running XFCE on F11; synaptics touchpad. How do I turn off multifinger scrolling, it annoys the hell out of me. Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird 3.0b3 focus issue
On 10/01/2009 10:47 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote: Anyone else seeing this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511100 Extremely annoying; makes tabbed viewing unusable. I'm wondering now if I should have filed this in Fedora and not upstream... -CB If someone can tell me how to turn off the tabs and go back to the old window behavior, I'd be very grateful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird 3.0b3 focus issue
On 10/01/2009 11:58 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote: On 10/01/2009 02:13 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 10/01/2009 10:47 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote: Anyone else seeing this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511100 Extremely annoying; makes tabbed viewing unusable. I'm wondering now if I should have filed this in Fedora and not upstream... -CB If someone can tell me how to turn off the tabs and go back to the old window behavior, I'd be very grateful. Edit Preferences Advanced Section Reading and Display Tab Look for the Open Messages In section -CB Awesome, thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Your favourite Flash websites and testing Gnash
On 09/30/2009 08:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I am running the Gnash browser plugin for the past few days and it seems to work well for the websites that I use (YouTube et all). I am curious if anyone else has used it recently and if so what has been your experiences? Can you give the list of your favourite websites that use Flash considerably? If you want to test it, # yum remove flash-plugin # yum install gnash-plugin Restart Firefox, confirm with about:plugins and check. Rahul I installed it just like that and firefox confirms it's there in about:plugins, but whenever I open some page with flash, firefox behaves as if nothing is there I've tried disabling adobe flash (in plugins) and setting the swf handler to gnash, and still nothing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: .wine not installing in home directory
On 09/29/2009 10:27 AM, Jim wrote: What wine command should I run ? just the wine only just gives you usage. Wine doesn't run a windows session. Instead, it makes it so that you can run a windows program natively in linux. You run it as $ wine program.exe winemine.exe sample is installed with wine, so you can try it right away: $ wine winemine.exe -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backlight control
On 09/28/2009 03:12 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Sonntag, den 27.09.2009, 13:58 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: What component is responsible for turning off the backlight when the laptop lid is down? I'm running F11/radeon/xfce xfce4-power-manager, if it's installed. Regards, Christoph Thanks, that was it. The problem is that apparently X thinks my laptop panel doesn't support DPMS and because of that the backlight doesn't disable Where do I dig now? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backlight control
On 09/29/2009 04:00 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-29 18:43:39, Konstantin Svist wrote: ... Thanks, that was it. The problem is that apparently X thinks my laptop panel doesn't support DPMS and because of that the backlight doesn't disable Where do I dig now? If `xset dpms force suspend ; sleep 10 ; xset dpms force on` doesn't work, try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter. xset didn't work but nomodeset made it work. What's going on here? I thought modesetting was fully working/supported I really liked the modesetting, too... Who do I bug to fix it? Or how would I go about fixing it myself? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
backlight control
What component is responsible for turning off the backlight when the laptop lid is down? I'm running F11/radeon/xfce -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
Tom Horsley wrote: Mostly that it is really really hard to do right and you'd probably never get the kind of discipline and testing require from the wild west open source community :-). Maybe it's not all that hopeless. Virtualization progressed in heaps and bounds recently. What can be done is having a simple core kernel doing nothing but managing virtual machines. When it's time to reboot we'll start a new virtual machine, and gradually switch the applications to it (can be done automatically or with user assistance, depending on what they do how they work). Then, after the original VM is not running anything of interest to the user, it's turned off. This adds an advantage of being able to try the new kernel not switching to it if something doesn't work. Of course it can't be that easy in practice, but it's much easier/safer than doing all the updates in place. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: capital letters in firefox
Germán Racca wrote: Hello people: I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal' behavior? Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in your own web browser: http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas Thanks in advance, Germán. Make sure you're not on your neighbor's wireless connection http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: capital letters in firefox
Germán Racca wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:26 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Germán Racca wrote: Hello people: I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal' behavior? Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in your own web browser: http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas Thanks in advance, Germán. Make sure you're not on your neighbor's wireless connection http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html Hehe...very interesting, but I'm not using wireless. G. Try starting firefox in safe mode and see if you get normal case then. (probably will) If so, check which extensions/themes you've installed and/or what changes you've made. Does CSS directive text-transform: uppercase sound familiar? Maybe you customized some layout/skinning file for firefox... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
lots of interrupts
I just ran powertop on a server which has a lot of small HTTP requests coming in. I'm wondering if there's anything here that can be optimized (other than powertop's suggestion of optimizing disk access... the number of interrupts there is so low in comparison that it doesn't seem worth the time). Top causes for wakeups: 30.9% (10350.7) interrupt : eth0 26.9% (9009.8) kernel core : hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_timer) 21.5% (7194.3) kernel IPI : Rescheduling interrupts 14.4% (4813.7) interrupt : eth1 1.3% (428.0)python : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 1.2% (387.2)python : mod_timer (tcp_delack_timer) 1.0% (349.7)mysqld : mod_timer (tcp_delack_timer) 0.9% (298.3)python : mod_timer (tcp_write_timer) 0.8% (276.2)mysqld : mod_timer (tcp_write_timer) 0.5% (158.7) kernel IPI : TLB shootdowns Rescheduling interrupts seems interesting. Can anything be done to get rid of those? (e.g. binding a process to a specific CPU/core) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Partitioning tools and ext4?
Mike Cloaked wrote: Does anyone know which partitioning tools will play nice with ext4 in F11? eg fdisk, parted, qtparted etc It would be nice to have a list of those tools that can be trusted to change partitions for F11 and for F12 upcoming. I guess there is always PartedMagic livecd/liveusb that presumably play nice with ext4 ? fdisk doesn't format, so it'll work qtparted and gparted use libparted, which has support for ext4. If you boot off a live CD, you can run yum install gparted and start using it right away. As far as gparted, you can go to Gparted - Show Features and it will tell you which filesystems are supported by this version -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Bug in sh-4.0 source build-in command
John Cornelius wrote: It's not a bug, it's supposed to work that way. The behavior can be changed by: sh-4.0# PATH=$PATH:. I used to do this because that's how Windows does it -- until I realized how bad of an idea it really is. Suppose you're root, looking around in a user-writable directory. And suppose that some user placed a malicious executable called ls in that directory (maybe as simple as echo rm -rf / ls; chmod 777 ls). Suddenly, you're executing ls - but not the one you think. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How well does Fedora handle ATI cards?
gil...@altern.org wrote: So, Radeon is free, Catalyst/fglrx non-free? Not quite. radeon and radeonhd are free-as-in-speech (libre). They're [supposedly] fully supported by the community and Redhat. These are updated with every kernel version. - Radeon will work on most cards, and will almost definitely work on old ATI cards. Some new cards are not supported. - RadeonHD mostly works with newer cards only (at least it used to) -- and is still under development. Old cards are not likely to work. catalyst/fglrx is proprietary but free-as-in-beer (gratis). They're [supposedly] supported by ATI (I guess AMD, now). In practical terms, they should work on all recent ATI cards, but not all kernel versions (they're distributed as pre-compiled code and will only work with a small set of kernel versions). Many (most?) old cards are not supported. There's no point asking ATI/AMD for help, they'll either ignore you or tell you to hang tight until next version of the driver is released. On the flipside, the 3D support is* best here. * That used to be the case about a year ago. I don't think radeon could've progressed enough to beat fglrx in performance, but it should have fairly good performance. See http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20922 if you want to get some historical background. Practically, you should try the drivers in the following order and stick with the one that works for you: 1. radeon 2. radeonhd 3. fglrx Ok, so that's why, when I bought my computer and I said I would use Linux, the salesman suggested I buy an Nvidia card. My coworker is also an nvidia enthusiast, but my ATI X1400 works perfectly well with fglrx (I still haven't upgraded from F8, and radeon driver wasn't good enough for me there). I've also tried F11 live cd and the fresh radeon support looks good so far. OTOH, I've had the worst time while trying nvidia proprietary driver I've installed Compiz, but are there other uses for 3D ? If not, if one doesn't care about Compiz, I understand that Frank Cox says he had no problem whatsoever with his ATI cards. Yes - many games use 3D :) Some media players can also use 3D acceleration to render video -- this could give you very nice features like antialiasing/deinterlacing/etc with low cpu overhead (since they're implemented in videocard hardware). Not sure if these always work in practice, though. HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: microsoft natural keyboard 4000 F10/Spell
Frank Cox wrote: The keyboard actually does remember the F-lock setting across reboots, so changing the default setting wouldn't actually accomplish much anyway Then why bother with translation? Just don't ever press the F-lock key and you'll be okay :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: grub: splash screen resolution
Kam Leo wrote: Try appending a vga=341 to the kernel stanza of grub. Get other supported vga values by entering vga=ask. That's for kernel resolution, which is applied right after grub. François is talking about grub itself, however. I don't think it's possible to change grub's resolution but if there's a way, I'd like to know too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: will we ever have radeon drivers that aren't crap?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: it's a bit maddening that all that effort produced nothing in the way of a method that allows me to get a working configuration at full resolution. i'm open to ideas but, AFAICT, nothing's changed since that bug report. I have similar experience with radeon and radeonhd drivers. Sometimes devs respond asking for more info, but ultimately nothing seems to move forward. Very aggravating. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?
stan wrote: I turned it off for exactly the reason you cite above. This isn't a measure of a fastest mirror. I think it would be really great if yum would keep track of the mirrors used and the actual download rate obtained over time with each mirror. It would have to be a weighted update of speed averaging past total at past speed and current total and current speed. Then instead of always using the fastest mirror, take the top N (20?, user selectable?) fastest mirrors and share the load among them. Set a size threshold so that only files above a certain size (2 MB?, 1MB?, 500K?) are taken from the fastest mirrors, let any other files come from anywhere. If a file is 20K in size, the speed of the download isn't really relevant. This shares the load and ensures that certain servers don't get hit by everyone, thus degrading their performance and stressing them unfairly. I've thought about writing a plugin to do this, but haven't made it yet. The fastest mirror plugin would be a good template. I'd prefer a system based on existing proven technology, e.g. bittorrent. It already does all this and more -- and works great for high loads, e.g. when a new version comes out. It doesn't matter where the packages are downloaded from, as long as they're signed (which is already the case). Some users may take issue with using their upload bandwidth or downloading from other users -- so upload-while-downloading and download-from-peers should probably be disabled by default, but it can be an option for the more adventurous. The biggest difference from BT is that the list of files to be downloaded is different for each user, and also that new files are being added all the time. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?
gil...@altern.org wrote: Why isn't this the default? Probably because it doesn't work too well. The way it works is by pinging the IPs of all mirrors to see which one has the smallest latency. In a perfect world, that would be the source you want to use, but in reality all it tells you is which mirror's firewall/etc. responds to ping fastest. What happens is the server is either lagging or becomes overloaded fast (possibly because many users are trying to update from it) so the speed goes down the drain. End result: I have 3mb download on my DSL line, but using the fastest mirror often gives me 50K (or even lower) download speed. Sometimes I end up editing the timedhosts.txt file and faking a long timeout value for the slow host. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fn key doesn't work on Vostro 1500
Konstantin Svist wrote: Fresh F11 install on Vostro 1500, no proprietary drivers, selinux disabled. I can't seem to get Fn key to work. Fn+up/down is supposed to adjust brightness, Fn+PrntScrn is SysRq, etc. None of these combinations work right now. I've found that I can adjust brightness from command line with solid-powermanagement. Also, when I tried to assign Fn+up/down key to a shortcut, I got a message that said Qt doesn't support this key combination. P.S. the Fn key used to work on previous Fedora 8 install. The change I had to make from default was setting the keyboard to Dell Laptop Inspiron* in the keyboard applet. I've tried doing the same with gnome-keyboard-properties applet in F11, but no luck -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any known working USB/serial converters?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: a while back, i was whining about the lack of functionality of a particular USB/serial converter: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-05/msg00398.html does anyone have such a converter that just plain works out of the box? i'm more than happy to buy and try another brand if it's the prolific product that's causing the trouble. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2537 This one works perfectly for me. The only downside is that shipping takes a week or two. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sudo for gnome apps
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/7/2 Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com: What's a good howto/quickstart for polkit in Fedora? I didn't follow any howtos or guides, what I used to do was look at the details drop down thing on the dialogue that comes up when polkit asks for the root password. That should have the key that sets the permissions in that particular context. Now run polkit and look for that key and play around with it. Kinda lame I know, but fun and instructive through experience. :) For example I used to think the permissions for auto-mounts for external or internal disks will be under devices. But it is actually controlled by a key under HAL (can't confirm right now. @ work). If you think about it thats the more reasonable place for the key, after all auto-mounting is done by HAL. :P I don't know how helpful this will be, but I enjoyed it. Good Luck and have fun tweaking. :) So I've followed your advice and played around with it. From what I can tell so far, polkit allows me to give permissions to a user -- but it doesn't make them re-enter their password, a la sudo. Or am I missing something? My thinking is that the user should be given access to the system settings, but implicitly warned about potential problems by the password prompt. More to the point, if the user were to download some [possibly malicious] program, it shouldn't have the user's permissions. With polkit permissions, the malicious program will have direct access to the system; in ubuntu/sudo, user will be asked for password, alerting them to the fact that system-wide changes are happening. sudo is a good example of what I want -- but I want it in GUI land -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do you know when a reboot is required after yum update?
Donald Russell wrote: Obviously a reboot is required when loading a new kernel Well, actually... http://www.ksplice.com/ They make special patches for kernel which can be applied to a running kernel. Not sure this one is open source, but there probably will be one soon :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sudo for gnome apps
Hi all, Is there a way to make UI apps prompt for sudo password, instead of root password? I'm talking about the same thing as ubuntu does. Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sudo for gnome apps
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/7/2 Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com: Is there a way to make UI apps prompt for sudo password, instead of root password? I'm talking about the same thing as ubuntu does. Fedora uses polkit for that. At first I wasn't convinced how that was better than gksu or gksudo, but after learning to use policy kit this seems a lot more powerful and efficient. Thanks! What's a good howto/quickstart for polkit in Fedora? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: increasing time spent on grub during pm-hibernate
Roberto Ragusa wrote: I think that the new kernel will simply refuse to load the hibernated image and boot normally (as after an improper shutdown). Right, but the image will be removed, so what was the point of hibernation? If you wanted to reboot into the new kernel anyway, a plain reboot should take less time Yes. But if you do not have windows partitions mounted and you hibernate and reboot to do something in windows, grub will immediately try to resume, you understand what happens and try to shutdown everything before the kernel actually runs. If you are lucky you power on again, you manage to have to grub menu shown by pressing one key and you boot windows and then resume Linux. If you are unlucky, the resume image is not usable anymore (the system has been resumed and then powered off) and you lose all the session you wanted to preserve. Also, if you try to use a Live CD, it will most likely try to mount the swap partition, also potentially destroying the hibernated state. And that's an additional case of inexperienced users can do stupid things, so we have to block experienced users doing smart things. (I used to run tuxonice and this holding-hands stuff was not there, luckily). That's what differentiates an amateur project from a polished professional one. The beginner project relies on the user to be smart enough to not do these things. But Fedora is used by a lot of different users, some are not as much computer-literate as you are. It has to put up guards against them. I'm not saying that option shouldn't be there, but I do believe it's a very sensible default. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: increasing time spent on grub during pm-hibernate
Globe Trotter wrote: Dear all, When my machine wakes up from pm-hibernate, I spend less than a second on the grub bootloader. I am wondering if and how this can be increased to (say) 5 seconds? Many thanks and best wishes, T Hibernation is pretty tricky - it dumps all memory to the disk, which includes all mounts, etc. In other words, if you boot into any other OS and modify some filesystem mounted in hibernated instance, you'll get a nasty surprise when you try to resume. Or it will resume looking okay, but there is corruption somewhere. And it's not necessarily limited to minor corruption - the whole filesystem could get corrupted, you could lose EVERYTHING on it. Even if you just want to boot to Windows, you usually have a few different kernel versions in grub. If you chose one of those by accident, you would get this nasty surprise, too. Plus, even though windows rarely mounts linux partitions, linux could have easily had the windows partition mounted (to read/write the documents). I suppose you COULD hack together a system which will make damn sure that no partitions of hibernated system are mounted (including swap!), but that's not a common setup. If you're able to do that, then you're already able to make grub pause at the choice :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice from users of gParted ??
Aldo Foot wrote: I have both the GParted LiveCD[1] and the SystemRescueCD[2] I have the tendency to use the SystemRescueCD because it starts out with a text CLI, which is helpful with some very old systems. I usually use clonezilla-sysresccd because I need to clone partitions pretty often. One thing though, these live CDs don't support ext4 just yet. For that, I booted from Fedora live CD and ran yum install gparted Everything after that is easy. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice from users of gParted ??
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 22:47 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 18:55 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: I have both the GParted LiveCD[1] and the SystemRescueCD[2] I have the tendency to use the SystemRescueCD because it starts out with a text CLI, which is helpful with some very old systems. I usually use clonezilla-sysresccd because I need to clone partitions pretty often. One thing though, these live CDs don't support ext4 just yet. For that, I booted from Fedora live CD and ran yum install gparted Everything after that is easy. This looks like the solution I want. One really dumb question (I haven't worked much with LiveCDs before). If I boot from the F11 live CD and yum install gparted, where does the gparted program get stored? On the Live CD? On my hard drive? Neither. Live CDs don't touch your hard drive unless you want them to -- it may not even have a filesystem on it -- and the CD obviously can't be written to (they're usually CDROMs), but the system runs from a filesystem in memory, i.e. a ram disk. This means that anything you install will be lost when you reboot, but for something like gparted you don't really care once you have your partitioning set up. poc Exactly. If you have plenty of ram (I have 2gb, worked great for me), you can add live_ram to kernel parameters in grub. This will load the full CD into memory and it won't need to read the CD at every command (e.g. start terminal, yum install, gparted, possibly every sub-program gparted calls...) Also, you can use the swap partition if you have one on your hard drive. If it has label SWAP-sda2, then the command is swapon -L SWAP-sda2 HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EEEPC FC11 install
Andrew Cocker wrote: Hi I have had FC10 working surprisingly well as a web server for months on an Asus EeePC (Intel Atom bases mini PC) but an upgrade to FC11 failed so I have had to restart from scratch. The EeePC has no optical drive and I have tried using both a 4GB USB key and USB hard drive. I tried both livecd-tools and Unetbootin to create a bootable USB drive. In every attempt anaconda runs but after I get through the partitioning stage it creates a file system and then fails with an error message that it cannot mount the ISO source, usually /dev/sdb1. Am I doing something dumb, is there a bug? Should I try reinstalling FC10 and upgrading to FC11 instead? All advice gratefully received. Try a Live CD: you can boot it to ram (kernel option live_ram) -- if you do that, it won't even look for the cd, it will just copy the image straight from memory. I could be wrong about this, though -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Burning .thunderbird to a cd/dvd changes r/w
Jim wrote: When burning .thunderbird folder to a cd/dvd it changes the r/w priviledges in Mail folders to r only. and you say no way, well i'm sitting here looking at the mail folders on the dvd and all of them say 'read' In the past I noticed if I move the .thunderbird folder onto a hard drive or flash drive I had no problems of putting the .thunderbird folder onto a new upgrade/install and it would work perfectly. If you're talking about the copy on the cd/dvd itself, it's not surprising in the least because that media is generally RO. Or maybe the original become RO during the burning process? That would make sense, because the burning app may not handle the case when you modify the files you told it to burn. It could then burn half a file one version and half another... If that's what it does, and you killed the burning app halfway, the files may have stayed RO. If you didn't, just don't try to write to them until the burning is done. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: screen corruption when switching to TTYs
solarflow99 wrote: the only time i've had this happen is when the the screen type or video is set wrong, also if I make a change to those settings without rebooting. The only thing I've set is vga=0x369 in kernel params, and that's the value it told me to put in for the laptop's native resolution. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh time out
Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I need to increase the timeout of the ssh session, so I set ClientAliveInterval 7200 in the file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config but I did not observe any change. What am I doing wrong ? Thank The TCP connection may be timing out (if you're behind a firewall someone else controls, for instance) Whatever the case may be, try adding these to sshd_config: |KeepAlive yes ClientAliveInterval 60 This should make the server ping the client every 60 seconds. TCP connection will see activity and not turn off. | -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to Automate SSH authentication
Rahul Tidke wrote: Hello, I am configuring Fedora Core 6 and CentOS5.3 for automatic SSH authentication, ssh version is OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8b, I have executed following commands but still both systems prompt me for passwords instead of using public keys. ssh-keygen -b 1024 -t dsa (on both hosts with empty pass phrase) ssh-agent $BASH (on both hosts) ssh-add /root/.ssh/id_dsa (on both hosts) created authorized_keys file in /root/.ssh directory on both the hosts and copied (exchanged) id_dsa.pub keys to it. SSH is open on both the hosts. Now it should login automatically without prompting for passwords; but it still prompts for password, what is going wrong here? I have tried disabling password authentication in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but no help. I usually set everything up without ssh-agent. All you need is ~/.ssh/config file with Host host2 192.168.1.2 IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa.host2 ^ of course assuming the other computer's host name is host2 and IP address 192.168.1.2 Copy the .pub into host2:~/.ssh/authorized_keys You can also tell both systems to use the same public/private keypair if you're not too worried about security. Otherwise, you can delete .pub file At this point, this should work w/o a password: host1$ ssh host2 For your particular problem, check permissions of ~/.ssh/ directory -- it should be 700. All the files in it need at least 400, you can set it to that and still be able to use it without any issues. 600 also works, as should 640. Anything more permissive, though, will sometimes result in ssh server refusing to use it (any user might've seen/modified it, etc.) If you have selinux enabled, check /var/log/messages on the ssh server -- it will spit out a message when you try to connect using the private key. The command to fix it is something like restorecon -R ~/.ssh Don't trust me, though -- it should be mentioned in /var/log/messages if you need to run it. I just turn selinux off. HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: screen corruption when switching to TTYs
Konstantin Svist wrote: I have a laptop with nvidia card (8600M GT (rev a1)) where I just installed F11 x86_64. I've added vga=0x369 to /boot/grub/grub.conf (that's 1860x1050, native resolution). The system boots up without incidents. While in X, I try to switch to TTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F2, for instance). Instead of a tty, I see a corrupted image of the desktop - there are diagonal lines and everything is mangled beyond recognition, but the colors kind of match the desktop content. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, it goes back to the desktop without any visual glitches. Before I set the vga kernel param, switching worked perfectly. Of course, the resolution was very low, so I don't want to go back to that if possible. Anyone have the same problem? What can I do about it? Thanks *bump* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:41:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so that at the login window it's already on the network)? Yes, configure it as a systemwide network and it'll connect at boot time. How do you do that? Anne After you set up a connection, right-click NetworkManager icon, go to Edit connections - Wireless tab - select and edit the connection. There's an option there to make it system wide. You'll need root password. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
screen corruption when switching to TTYs
I have a laptop with nvidia card (8600M GT (rev a1)) where I just installed F11 x86_64. I've added vga=0x369 to /boot/grub/grub.conf (that's 1860x1050, native resolution). The system boots up without incidents. While in X, I try to switch to TTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F2, for instance). Instead of a tty, I see a corrupted image of the desktop - there are diagonal lines and everything is mangled beyond recognition, but the colors kind of match the desktop content. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, it goes back to the desktop without any visual glitches. Before I set the vga kernel param, switching worked perfectly. Of course, the resolution was very low, so I don't want to go back to that if possible. Anyone have the same problem? What can I do about it? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE [SOLVED]
Thanks to magic keys, I was able to semi-debug the issue. Apparently, F11 waits for a device to be mounted to continue at this point. The script that does this normally prints out this info -- but apparently the caller dumps it into /dev/null. In other words, the problem is hidden. This laptop can boot from the built-in HD, PCMCIA CD or network. No USB boot (too old). For whatever reason, PCMCIA CD isn't mounted at this stage of booting (only at either nash or HAL init). My solution: copy the contents of the CD to a USB drive and boot from CD with USB drive plugged in. USB drive will be recognized by the kernel and boot will continue off there. Here I hit another small snag: the USB stick is /dev/sdb (HD is /dev/sda*) because it's a single vfat partition. The init script (/sbin/real-init) waits for sr*/hd* or something like that because it's told to look for the CD label. Solution: set root=/dev/sdb in grub. Now I have finally booted live XFCE, yay! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Minimal installation and LXDE
Angel Natan Villegas Vicencio wrote: Hi All, I was done a minimal installation with fedora 11 on my old vectra 420 with nvidia card 5200 and after do that, i install lxde but doesn't work the X, also try lxde-remix and is the same situation, if someone have some possible troubleshoot for this issue, Thanks I installed XFCE live spin on my old laptop. Here's what I had to do to get LXDE working: # yum groupinstall LXDE # vim /etc/sysconfig/desktop *** change content to: #PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startxfce4 PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startlxde DISPLAYMANAGER=XDM *** # init 3 # init 5 (you can reboot instead of the last two) I've changed from default GDM to XDM (login manager) because GDM crashed in an odd way whenever I selected a user from the list. Odd way being: X session stays with cursor background (and nothing else), GDM opens a new session with login window.. go figure. This was because of LXDE, though. Not sure if it's LXDE bug or GDM bug from having 2 desktops installed. HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Minimal installation and LXDE
Angel Natan Villegas Vicencio wrote: Hi All, I was done a minimal installation with fedora 11 on my old vectra 420 with nvidia card 5200 and after do that, i install lxde but doesn't work the X, also try lxde-remix and is the same situation, if someone have some possible troubleshoot for this issue, Thanks How did you do a minimal LXDE install? I'm curious because I did a Live-XFCE install and it takes up 2.2G from the start. I've started trimming some fat but it's going pretty slow. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: upgrading display problem
Beartooth TpBkR wrote: I've now done several upgrades from F10 to F11, all on machines where F10 was running happily. Three of them are behind the same KVM switch. Of the three, one is fine; one has a pale, washed-out display, but otherwise is fine; and one can't seem to get a clue to the fact that my monitor is 1680x1050, not 1400x1050 -- so a large part of the screen just sits there black, while everything displayed is crowded together. I have futzed and tinkered with system-config-display; I even went into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and added the Modes line, telling it only 1680x1050. I think I'm going to have to shut everything down, take the problem machine off the switch, and re-tinker with all three peripherals connected directly to it -- the way I quit having to do installs and upgrades three or four releases ago. Is there a less tedious way?? Problem is that KVM switches emulate monitor keyboard and mouse to the computers. This is because default BIOS settings prevent the computer from booting if the keyboard/monitor aren't present -- and ps/2 mouse connectors are generally sucky and don't accept a mouse if it was plugged in after the computer booted (could be a winderz problem, actually...). Anyway, your KVM switch tells your machine that the monitor resolution is 1400x1050 and F11 happily obeys (thinking the resolution info is real). Setting it to 1680x1050 (only, no other resolutions!) in xorg.conf should normally make it work. You'll need to restart X -- and for that, you may need to reboot the machine. If you can't reboot, you can change runlevel to 3 and then back to 5: # init 3 [... wait a little for console to settle down ...] # init 5 HTH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird bug or feature?
I received an email with this block of text (when viewing source) **snip** --=20 **snip** It displays fine when reading the message. the text after -- is a signature, and it's displayed in gray (which is correct). But when I hit Reply, the quoted text only goes up to the -- and doesn't quote anything below. In particular, the earlier mail exchange is below the signature, and didn't get quoted. Is this a bug or a feature? I didn't really pay attention to it before, but it may have always worked this way... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: can I connect to wifi before login?
NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so that at the login window it's already on the network)? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to disable tap from touchpad
Markus Kesaromous wrote: Since I have an external mouse, I tape a square cardboard on the touchpad. Works for me! :) :) Some laptops have an off-switch for the touchpad. Any idea how to make it turn off by default? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE
Frank Murphy wrote: snip The fault you found check if they are known bugs, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Nope, none of those Then check agains bugzilla for any that may be relevant: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478893 Yep, already saw it. acpi=off worked for him, but as I already said didn't work for me. Rem rhgb and quite, to get extra errors\info Yeah, that's what I already did. Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle disappears with acpi=off, but I noticed that _with_ quiet option, this shows up: IO APIC resources could be not be allocated. From looking around, it seems that this is not a critical error. It does still show up with acpi=off, though. The laptop-list may also be of more specific laptopy help. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list Once you get all thet sorted, Then there should be an icon on the desktop. If your using X. Frank When not using acpi=off, the screen changes brightness (becomes a little brighter) and the output mentions something about video card being an input, right before the process stops. I've already tried using xdriver=vesa and xdriver=trident and text mode -- nothing helps so far. It's interesting that the freeze is not actually a freeze -- if I press keys on the keyboard, the letters show up on screen, they just don't do anything. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del reboots the system. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE
Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/06/09 01:01, Konstantin Svist wrote: What's my next step? I was able to install F8 onto this laptop, somehow (think I had to use a netinstall CD) Alternately, how do I start the install process from the Live CD if I'm in F8? I tried mounting squashfs.img (failed) and tried unsquashfs (failed: version mismatch). You cannot update using a LiveCD, you would need a DVD. If F8 is working fine on the laptop? You could try updating using yum: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq But look at the *readmes* for F8 F9 F10 F11 in case of gotchas\workarounds. Frank Actually I'm trying to make a clean install, don't want to upgrade -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't boot Live-XFCE
I'm trying to boot an aged laptop (Toshiba Portege 3110ct) from a Live-XFCE CD. It gets stuck at various stages: * normal (removed quiet and rhgb options): stuck at detecting EDD * edd=off: stuck at Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle * edd=off acpi=off: stuck at Running plymouthd input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input2 What's my next step? I was able to install F8 onto this laptop, somehow (think I had to use a netinstall CD) Alternately, how do I start the install process from the Live CD if I'm in F8? I tried mounting squashfs.img (failed) and tried unsquashfs (failed: version mismatch). Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 for '/' was not allowed in fedora-11
Frank Elsner wrote: Make a seperate /boot an ext3 and all the other ext4. By the way, why ext3 and not ext2? I thought ext2 was lighter, and since /boot is usually used in read-only mode, stuff like journaling doesn't matter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: amazonmp3
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 12 June 2009 14:57:07 Dave Cross wrote: 2009/6/12 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Dave Cross wrote: Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_date_time.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_filesystem.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_iostreams.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_regex.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_signals.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libcrypto.so.7 Package amazonmp3 requires libssl.so.7 The joys of proprietary software... Those are dependencies on the old Boost and OpenSSL. It needs to be rebuilt for the new versions of both. And only they can do it because it's proprietary. Yeah. I realise that. The reply I got from then said: snip Is there any actual advantage in having this? I've bought mp3s from amazon (and sampled them first) without using their player, so I didn't bother. Anne I was fairly sure they require you to use their own application to download the mp3s you bought. How were you able to download them without it? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Install Fedora11-AOS usinf kickstart How to?
Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: I want to instsall Fedora11-AOS (RAW file) to a bare PC (not as a virt-image) How can I do it using a kickstart file? I'm interested too. My assumption is that AOS is a minimal install that can be extended with yum. I want to install it on an older laptop. The only thing I'm worried about is a note about less hardware support -- why is that, exactly? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is this the real Fedora 11? I ask because of the file dates...
Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at mailto:kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Fernando Cassia wrote: Are the dates OK? Yes. Releases are made several days before the actual release, files don't get magically beamed to the mirrors, it takes time to mirror them. Kevin Kofler Thanks Kevin.I figured that. But just wanted to be sure what I got wasn´t a prerelease version. Also incidentally,after I grabbed my 6 CD images, the mirror owner decided to remove his local mirror apparently. :-( FC You should be able to check the validity of downloaded files with checksums (sha256sum, I hear). If it matches what's on the main Fedora page then you got the right files :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com All the netbooks I tried had compatibility problems with other external devices. The netbooks couldn't load the software drivers to let me print to my Canon and Dell printers. I couldn't load pictures over a USB cable from my Canon PowerShot SD750 digital camera. I was able to get my pictures on the machines by plugging a storage card from my camera directly into the netbooks. Yup, I've experienced exactly the same problems. Printers being the worst, of course, since I just use the SD card readers to transfer pictures from the camera. Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade F10 -- Rawhide
Germán Racca wrote: Hello everybody: I have recently run preupgrade in my Fedora 10, and I choosed to upgrade to Rawhide. The preupgrade program made all the necessary tasks (downloaded fc11 packages, etc.) and when finished it asked to reboot. I rebooted and I got a black screen saying GRUB _ (the _ is blinking) and it reminds in the same way since 30 minutes ago. My question: is it working or I get an error? May I reboot again? No, it's an error. See here for instructions: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=214137 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
