Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
Had a phenom II x64 machine that had Fedora 11 freshly installed with 
default settengs a few weeks before 12 came out. Finally decided to try the 
upgrade to see how it would work, but could have done a clean install if it 
didn't work.

Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a 
message that it needed more space on /boot. Removed all but latest kernel, 
and memtest and eventually needed to remove the splash graphic to get it to 
work, but fianllly got enough space. So the preupgrade to finish the process 
to reboot. Then when it rebooted, there was a message that it needed more 
space, but there was nothing on the /boot to be removed. I was able to boot 
back to the Fedora 11 kernel, and then tried a last resort option. Took the 
initrd in the upgrade directory, and first gunziped it, and then used lzma on 
it. 
The resuld was about 500M smaller size, and then was able to reboot. This 
then alllowed the preupgrade boot to work, and the system has now 
upgraded. 

It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or 
to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it 
doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem. 


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Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 30 Dec 2009 at 18:14, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

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 On Wednesday 30 December 2009 13:43:20 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
 [snip]
  Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a
  message that it needed more space on /boot.
 [snip]
  It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or
  to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it
  doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem.
 
 If you are using LVM, I would expect resizing partitions to be easy and 
 painless, right? LVM was actually introduced precisely for this purpose, 
 AFAIK.
 

Problem is that the /boot is a separate regular partition. /dev/sda1
The root and swap partitions are LVM in the /dev/sda2.

The LVM options don't seem to help in this setup, it would require reducing 
the size of the LVM inside the physical partition, and then resizing the 
physical parititon, and then moving the physical partition. Might be possible, 
but I don't  know all the commands.


 Once preupgrade complained it needs more space for /boot, I would use LVM 
 tools to expand /boot accordingly, then start again. That said, please note 
 that I never upgrade Fedora (always reformat and do a clean install), and 
 that 
 I don't use LVM (always manually create a custom bare-bones partition layout 
 to suit my needs). IOW, I may not be the proper person to give the above 
 advice. ;-)

I've thought of not using LVM, since I don't see needing the on the fly options 
it allows for my setup, but it is the default setup. If they where regular 
paritions, using partedmagic  or other program would make it easy to move 
the partitions. 

Thanks for the info.


 
 HTH, :-)
 Marko
 


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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 26 Dec 2009 at 14:35, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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 I taught a Linux course at Northeastern University for a couple of
 years. The classroom computers were Windows, but we used a partition
 manager and set the systems up for dual booting between Windows and
 Linux. Additionally, most of the participants had their own laptops.
 Some installed Linux either as a single or dual boot. The IT people were
 ok with the dual boot as long as other classes would be able to use the
 systems as before. One campus I had help from the IT guy, but the main
 campus I had to set up the dual boot with Windows as the default. One
 thing I did in the Linux class was to set up X over IP where I had
 students running Xeyes on  their laptop and having it display on their
 neighbors. This shows some of the power of the Linux/Unix X Windows
 system. You can also demonstrate X by running an X server on Windows ans
 running an X client through putty.  The students seemed to like this.
 
 And, of course, as mentioned on other posts, demonstrating the several
 office products, such as OpenOffice, and showing how OpenOffice will
 support much of the features of Office 2007.
 

I did some similar things. Many years ago, had a Linux machine in my office, 
and set up the VNC server so I could have all 20 students connect to the 
machine via VNC, and have there own X desktop. Speed was a little slow, 
but having 20 users ruhning off one machine was interested. Later setup the 
machines as dual boot in my lab, and then triple boot with 98/XP/Linux. Have 
done this with Redhat 9, then Fedora Core 1 thru Fedora 12 at the moment. 

I'm looking for some course material that has real working information rather 
than read and point and click instructions of many of the  text books. Some 
things I've looked at are too simple, and others are too complex. 

Thanks for the message.


 On 12/11/2009 04:25 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College program.
  Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current Fedora 12, 
  but 
  have just been able to show students little bits of it from time to time, 
  since 
  the program is geared to mostly windows and some courses using AS/400 
  mini system. 
 
  The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level course 
  as 
  a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section where the 
  students 
  go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,  and they can use the 
  Fedora, 
  but many students still stay with windows.
 
  Was wondering if people on the list might have some knowledge of material 
  that would best meet the needs of a community college program. 
 
  Last year I did work with 3 students on a Special project involving my G4L 
  disk imaging project, and it was interesting, but very focused.
 
  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The Ideal is to have it ready 
  for Fall 2010.
 

 
 
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Issue after updating a Fedora 11 system to Fedora 12

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I have a server that I just upgraded from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 using the 
net CD and the DVD image on another server.

After the initial update, there were 170 FC11 files still listed in the rpm -qa.

I then ran a yum update -y and most of the packages were updated.

curl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586
dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
dbus-cxx-tools-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586
libcurl-devel-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586
gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586
dbus-cxx-doc-0.5.0-1.fc11.noarch
dbus-cxx-devel-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586

As it turns out, the fc11 version of some of these files are newer than the 
fc12 version, so yum gives an error that the fc11 version is newer.

I was trying to remove and update at the same time, but this failed with the 
newer error message. I then looked at removing the fc11 files first, but that 
results in it wanting to delete lots of other files. 

Is there a way to update these files, or just to wait for newer fc12 versions.

Thanks.

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Re: Issue after updating a Fedora 11 system to Fedora 12

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 22 Dec 2009 at 11:52, hackob - wrote:

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 2009/12/22 Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net:
  I have a server that I just upgraded from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 using the
  net CD and the DVD image on another server.
 
  After the initial update, there were 170 FC11 files still listed in the rpm 
  -qa.
 
  I then ran a yum update -y and most of the packages were updated.
 
  curl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-tools-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586
  libcurl-devel-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586
  gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-doc-0.5.0-1.fc11.noarch
  dbus-cxx-devel-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
 
  As it turns out, the fc11 version of some of these files are newer than the
  fc12 version, so yum gives an error that the fc11 version is newer.
 
  I was trying to remove and update at the same time, but this failed with the
  newer error message. I then looked at removing the fc11 files first, but 
  that
  results in it wanting to delete lots of other files.
 
  Is there a way to update these files, or just to wait for newer fc12 
  versions.
 
  Thanks.
 
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 Did you try :
 $ yum upgrade

The problem is the fc12 version is older.
Did a comparison using yumex, and found that the number of the fc11 
version is higher, and Arch is different.  Also, there are a few that are 
missing 
altogether.

rpm -qa | grep fc11
  curl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-tools-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586
  libcurl-devel-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586
  gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-doc-0.5.0-1.fc11.noarch
  dbus-cxx-devel-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586

Manually using Yumex and looking for the files with all 

  curl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686
  libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586  No other version
  dbus-cxx-0.4.3-1.fc12.i686
  dbus-cxx-tools-0.4.3-1.fc12.i686
  libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686
  mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586   No other version
  libcurl-devel-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686
  iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686
  gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586  No other version
  dbus-cxx-doc-0.5.0-1.fc11.noarch No other version
  dbus-cxx-devel-0.4.3-1.fc12.i686


Was able to remvoe gst-mixer and libvolume_id with no other issues.
Removing mod_dnssd required removing gnome-user-share which is fc12, 
and then trying to reinstall it wants to put back the mod_dnssd fc11?








 
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Re: Issue after updating a Fedora 11 system to Fedora 12

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 22 Dec 2009 at 18:11, Derek Cramer wrote:

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 2009/12/22 hackob - hac...@hackob.me:
  2009/12/22 Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net:
  I have a server that I just upgraded from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 using the
  net CD and the DVD image on another server.
 
  After the initial update, there were 170 FC11 files still listed in the 
  rpm -qa.
 
  I then ran a yum update -y and most of the packages were updated.
 
  curl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-tools-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
  libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586
  libcurl-devel-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586
  iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586
  gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586
  dbus-cxx-doc-0.5.0-1.fc11.noarch
  dbus-cxx-devel-0.5.0-1.fc11.i586
 
  As it turns out, the fc11 version of some of these files are newer than the
  fc12 version, so yum gives an error that the fc11 version is newer.
 
  I was trying to remove and update at the same time, but this failed with 
  the
  newer error message. I then looked at removing the fc11 files first, but 
  that
  results in it wanting to delete lots of other files.
 
  Is there a way to update these files, or just to wait for newer fc12 
  versions.
 
  Thanks.
 
 What I did was use package-cleanup --orphans to identify the F11
 packages that were not upgraded and then used yum downgrade package
 names to get the F12 versions installed.
 

When I run the yum downgrade it comes back with Nothing to Do?

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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 22 Dec 2009 at 4:52, Tim wrote:

Subject:Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...
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 On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 19:25 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College
  program. Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current
  Fedora 12, but have just been able to show students little bits of it
  from time to time, since the program is geared to mostly windows and
  some courses using AS/400 mini system. 
  
  The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level
  course as a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section
  where the students go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,
  and they can use the Fedora, but many students still stay with
  windows.
 
 It seems obtuse, to me, to have installing an OS as part of a networking
 course.  Considering that people do courses to learn something in
 particular, I wouldn't mix and match.  A beginners guide to something
 ought to be about using it in a general manner (what it is, what makes
 Linux different from Windows, how to do basic tasks).  Installing would
 be something else, likewise with networking.

The installing of the OS is just a one class session event, and just goes thru 
the process of install the various linux version as a single OS on a system, or 
dual boot with Windows. It also takes a look at all the software programs that 
are available at installation or later. I wish I could go into more, but the 
course focuses on networking.

The campus has like 1000 or so computer systems, and my 20 classroom 
machines are the only ones that have LInux. The are  two Mac labs in 
another building, but all other machines are Windows only. 


 
 There'd be plenty of people who could do one of those things, but not
 the other, and that's what they want to learn.  I've tried to help
 people who've gone on a computing course, only to see them struggling
 with (a) stuff that's irrelevant to what they need, and (b) stuff that's
 just plain wrong.  The second one's probably hardest to deal with,
 because they have to pass a course, and I can't teach someone to learn
 something that's broken in the lecturer's head.

I tend to agree with what you are saying here. My ideal was to get 
information that would provide information that is what the students should 
know. The practical use of things versus the ACADEMIC knowledge. 

Much of the current text materials are so much on following specific 
directions and click click click instead of understanding why one is doing the 
process. 

 
 If you can't find what's needed by beginners (e.g. how to use OpenOffice
 instead of Office, how to search the internet, etc.) ahead of time, then
 you could offer sub-courses, and see what people elect.

My lab in addition to Linux also has OpenOffice and various other Open 
Source Programs that run on WIndows to show the students. I also have 
Firefox, Safari, and Chrome to show the students there is more than just IE. 
The other labs are all basically standard Windows installs. 

Last year, the college spend $79 each to upgrade 500 machines from Office 
2003 to 2007. Seems they ordered the keyboarding book that used 2007, 
instead of the one that used 2003, so they had to buy the new software. 
Checked with students in my classes and only 20% had 2007, and when 
asked how many had a legal copy the answer was 0. I use OpenOffice since 
I don't have a copy of 2003 or 2007, but our Admin and MIS are M$,

 
 Personally, I'm highly reluctant to go for any more training.  Years of
 being a student, and teaching students, has made me thoroughly sick of
 having my time wasted (stuff you don't need to learn, bad teaching, and
 no return for effort - e.g. going on 4 years full time, or 8 years of
 night time study, to earn $20 a week more than someone who hasn't done
 that course).

Know what you mean. I was going to a 4 year college, when I switched to the 
community college to actually learn practical knowledge. 

I learned on an IBM 1130 with 4K Ram and punched cards, which effects my 
approach to getting the most out of the resourses one has available. .

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Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College program.
Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current Fedora 12, but 
have just been able to show students little bits of it from time to time, since 
the program is geared to mostly windows and some courses using AS/400 
mini system. 

The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level course as 
a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section where the students 
go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,  and they can use the Fedora, 
but many students still stay with windows.

Was wondering if people on the list might have some knowledge of material 
that would best meet the needs of a community college program. 

Last year I did work with 3 students on a Special project involving my G4L 
disk imaging project, and it was interesting, but very focused.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The Ideal is to have it ready 
for Fall 2010.

Thanks.

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Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Found solution from a Debian List to use linux32 command.

On 15 Nov 2009 at 23:22, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

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To: Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com, Community 
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 The kernel has nothing to do with a fedora system, other than that I build 
 the 
 kernels on my fedora machine, and have done so with fedora for many 
 version.
 
 The kernels build are single standalone files for use with the g4l project 
 and 
 its boot process. Here is part of the isolinux.cfg file that loads the 
 various 
 kernels that can be used on various hardware combinations.
 
 LABEL bz20.4
 MENU LABEL ^A: bz20.4 386 build 2.6.20.1 02-21-2007
 KERNEL bz20.4
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
 LABEL bz21.6
 MENU LABEL ^B: bz21.6 386 build 2.6.21.6 07-04-2007
 KERNEL bz21.6
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
 LABEL bz22.6
 MENU LABEL ^C: bz22.6 386 build 2.6.22.6 08-31-2007
 KERNEL bz22.6
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
 LABEL bz23.14
 MENU LABEL ^D: bz23.14 386 build 2.6.23.1 01-14-2008
 KERNEL bz23.14
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
 LABEL bz24.4
 MENU LABEL ^E: bz24.4 386 build 2.6.24.4 03-24-2008
 KERNEL bz24.4
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
 LABEL bz25.10
 MENU LABEL ^F: bz25.10 386 build 07-03-2008
 KERNEL bz25.10
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0
 LABEL bz26.6
 MENU LABEL ^G: bz26.6 386 build 10-09-2008 
 KERNEL bz26.6
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 LABEL bz27.10
 MENU LABEL ^H: bz27.10 386 build 12-18-2008 
 KERNEL bz27.10
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 LABEL bz28.8
 MENU LABEL ^I: bz28.8 386 build 03-17-2009  
 KERNEL bz28.8
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 LABEL bz29.4
 MENU LABEL ^J: bz29.4 386 build 05-20-2009  
 KERNEL bz29.4
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 LABEL bz30.9
 MENU LABEL ^K: bz30.9 386 build 10-05-2009  
 KERNEL bz30.9
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 LABEL bz31.6
 MENU DEFAULT
 MENU LABEL ^L: bz31.6 386 build 11-10-2009  
 KERNEL bz31.6
 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 
 Most hardware works with the latest kernel, but some hardware doesn't, but 
 works with older ones? I have an average of about 10,000 downloads per 
 month of the project, so don't know all the hardware people use.
 
 With my all past changes of the Fedora core to the next level, it is just 
 copying the .config from the last build to the new system with the latest 
 kernel.org and building it. I've used the processor option just over the 486 
 to 
 provide largest level of hardware support. Didn't see a noticable preformance 
 increase using a higher processor in the builds. 
 
 With the Phenom II system, a build of the kernel with the same .config 
 prompts for changes, and one is for the processor, and it provides only 64 
 bit 
 options. I'm looking on how to be able to build a kernel in the same fashion. 
 As I mentioned earlier, the new machine can build a kernel from scratch in 
 about 12 minutes, but it would then only work on an x64 CPU. The x86 
 kernels work for both, and have even used one of the x86 kernels on the x64 
 machine to do a backup.
 
 Perhaps there is some extra things that need to be loaded or configured to 
 allow this.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Alan Cox had mentioned that this can be done, and I had tried to send a 
 message directly to his address, but got no response. I know one of the 
 kernel developers is Alan Cox, but may not be the same one.
 
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Re: Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine with VNC connection

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 15 Nov 2009 at 0:21, KC8LDO wrote:

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Subject:Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting 
machine with
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 Anybody notice strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine 
 with a persistent VNC connection setup?  I don't leave the machine on all 
 the time thus the rebooting. I've been getting rather annoyed with the way 
 Nautilus is failing to display my home folder's contents after doing a 
 routine update and rebooting the machine. Clicking on the home folder icon 
 will open the Nautilus application and display an empty window, on the right 
 hand side, where the contents of my home folder should be. The icon in the 
 upper right corner of the window has the spinning effect, like its doing 
 something, but nothing ever seems to show up. Nautilus will display the 
 folder contents of other folders just fine, just not my home folder after an 
 update reboot sequence. I did find that rebooting a second time always seems 
 to fix the problem, why I don't know.
 
 I also have two applications that crash on me every time as well, nm-applet 
 and gnome-setting daemon, both while using a VNC session over my home LAN 
 when first booted up and connecting using VNC. The above two applications 
 don't seem to crash when logging in with a directly attached console 
 however. The application crashing I posted the crash report to the gnome 
 mailing list.
 

I've seen the same thing from time to time. I actually disabled the two applets 
that caused the problem. The problem with nautilus happens from time to 
time, and it evenually does load, but then all desktop icons are gone.  I've 
generally found that another restart will bring it back, but it is annoying. 


 73's
 
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Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

The kernel has nothing to do with a fedora system, other than that I build the 
kernels on my fedora machine, and have done so with fedora for many 
version.

The kernels build are single standalone files for use with the g4l project and 
its boot process. Here is part of the isolinux.cfg file that loads the various 
kernels that can be used on various hardware combinations.

LABEL bz20.4
MENU LABEL ^A: bz20.4 386 build 2.6.20.1 02-21-2007
KERNEL bz20.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz21.6
MENU LABEL ^B: bz21.6 386 build 2.6.21.6 07-04-2007
KERNEL bz21.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz22.6
MENU LABEL ^C: bz22.6 386 build 2.6.22.6 08-31-2007
KERNEL bz22.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz23.14
MENU LABEL ^D: bz23.14 386 build 2.6.23.1 01-14-2008
KERNEL bz23.14
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz24.4
MENU LABEL ^E: bz24.4 386 build 2.6.24.4 03-24-2008
KERNEL bz24.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz25.10
MENU LABEL ^F: bz25.10 386 build 07-03-2008
KERNEL bz25.10
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0
LABEL bz26.6
MENU LABEL ^G: bz26.6 386 build 10-09-2008 
KERNEL bz26.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz27.10
MENU LABEL ^H: bz27.10 386 build 12-18-2008 
KERNEL bz27.10
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz28.8
MENU LABEL ^I: bz28.8 386 build 03-17-2009  
KERNEL bz28.8
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz29.4
MENU LABEL ^J: bz29.4 386 build 05-20-2009  
KERNEL bz29.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz30.9
MENU LABEL ^K: bz30.9 386 build 10-05-2009  
KERNEL bz30.9
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz31.6
MENU DEFAULT
MENU LABEL ^L: bz31.6 386 build 11-10-2009  
KERNEL bz31.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 

Most hardware works with the latest kernel, but some hardware doesn't, but 
works with older ones? I have an average of about 10,000 downloads per 
month of the project, so don't know all the hardware people use.

With my all past changes of the Fedora core to the next level, it is just 
copying the .config from the last build to the new system with the latest 
kernel.org and building it. I've used the processor option just over the 486 to 
provide largest level of hardware support. Didn't see a noticable preformance 
increase using a higher processor in the builds. 

With the Phenom II system, a build of the kernel with the same .config 
prompts for changes, and one is for the processor, and it provides only 64 bit 
options. I'm looking on how to be able to build a kernel in the same fashion. 
As I mentioned earlier, the new machine can build a kernel from scratch in 
about 12 minutes, but it would then only work on an x64 CPU. The x86 
kernels work for both, and have even used one of the x86 kernels on the x64 
machine to do a backup.

Perhaps there is some extra things that need to be loaded or configured to 
allow this.

Thanks.

Alan Cox had mentioned that this can be done, and I had tried to send a 
message directly to his address, but got no response. I know one of the 
kernel developers is Alan Cox, but may not be the same one.

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  Guam Community College  Computer Center  
  mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net
  mailto:msetze...@gmail.com
  http://www.guam.net/home/mikes
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Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

An earlier message stated that this can be done, but it doesn't seem to work 
on my system, so perhaps I am missing something.

I use the kernel.org source code, and copy the same .config file I use on the 
i386 machine. If I run make menuconfig or just make, it prompts for 
processor, and only give x86 options..

The new phenom II 955 system can build a kernel in about 12 minutes 
versus the 2 hours of the other system, so being able to build with the new 
system would be a real advantage. 

The i386 has Fedora 10, and the x64 has Fedora 11.

Perhaps something else needs to be installed, or some option.

Thanks.

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  mailto:msetze...@gmail.com
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Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 14 Nov 2009 at 11:31, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:

Date sent:  Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:31:02 -0200
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 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael D. Setzer II 
 mi...@kuentos.guam.net wrote:
 An earlier message stated that this can be done, but it doesn't seem to 
 work
 on my system, so perhaps I am missing something.
 
 I use the kernel.org source code, and copy the same .config file I use on 
 the
 i386 machine. If I run make menuconfig or just make, it prompts for
 processor, and only give x86 options..
 
 The new phenom II 955 system can build a kernel in about 12 minutes
 versus the 2 hours of the other system, so being able to build with the 
 new
 system would be a real advantage.
 
 The i386 has Fedora 10, and the x64 has Fedora 11.
 
 Perhaps something else needs to be installed, or some option.
 
 
 Use mock. Otherwise, it will be very difficult to accomplish what you want.
 This is the simplest way of isolating your build from all of the 64 bit stuff
 installed on your system.
 

In a look at mock, it seems to be for srpms builds. I'm looking at building a 
full kernel from source for use in the g4l project that I am the current 
maintainer of. Mostly the kernels are on the CD to allow users to boot and do 
disk imaging of the machines. The kernels can also be placed in grub and 
grub4dos as well, but are actually separate from the machine they are build 
on.


 
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Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Something that I've used to setup my own method to get the IP address of 
machines behind a NAT or other setup.

Just put this in the /var/www/html

htmlheadtitleIP ADDRESS/title
body
?php echo $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']; ?
/body
/html


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Re: FC-11 M2N-MX acpi

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Don't know if it relates to you motherboard, but I read something and added 
this to my kernel line. acpi_enforce_resources=lax

I have a M4A78-E with a Phenom II X4 processor.with 4GB of Ram.

That line had to do with ASUS having added something to there hardware, 
but it  isn't openly documented.

Good Luck.


On 11 Aug 2009 at 21:44, Paul Erickson wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:44:25 -0700
From:   Paul Erickson pa...@sfu.ca
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l...@redhat.com
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 I have encountered a problem with FC-11 86_64 and my Asus M2N-MX board. 
 I originally
 installed FC-11 fine with 2 GB of Ram, but when I went to increase it to 
 4 GB, ran into problems.
 
 The M2N-MX boots in Fedora Core 11 with 2 GB of RAM. With 4 GB of RAM, 
 the boot fails (and scrambles the video) unless 'acpi=ht' is added to 
 the kernel parameters.
 
 Has anyone else run into this? Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
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Re: TightVNC Server

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 8 Aug 2009 at 13:53, Philip Seeger wrote:

From:   Philip Seeger phi...@philip-seeger.de
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Date sent:  Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:53:06 +0200
Subject:TightVNC Server
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 Hello,
 
 I’m having trouble installing TightVNC on my Fedora 11.
 Apparently, I managed to install the server software, because I can 
 connect to the 
 machine using any VNC Client on a Windows system.
 But instead of the Fedora screen (with all opened windows and so on) I 
 only see a bash 
 console on a gray background.
 

You probable need to look at the xstartup file in the .vnc (period vnc) 
directory in the users home directory. The file has a statement that you need 
to uncomment two lines to get the normal screen? Don't know why that isn't 
the default. 

The Fedora has changed to another vnc program that can be loaded by yum 
install vncserver, and that is what I  setup on my Fedora 11 systems.


 What do I have to do to see a copy of the screen (as I would see it if 
 I’d connect a 
 monitor to the Fedora machine)?
 
 Please make it easy, I’m new to Linux… :D
 
 Thanks for any help…
 


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Re: TightVNC Server

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 8 Aug 2009 at 15:10, Philip Seeger wrote:

From:   Philip Seeger phi...@philip-seeger.de
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 There is no file in /home/[USER]/.vnc ...?
 
 The Fedora VNC Server called Desktop Sharing doesn't work properly on this 
 computer. I can connect, but the picture is so bad, it's not possible to work 
 like that.

The Desktop sharing was using something called VINO on Fedora 10, 
haven't looked at what Fedora 11 does with that. I use the regular vncserver.
Logged in as the user I run vncserver :port   (colon port).
Example: vncserver :50  
That would load a vncserver session using port 5950
The first time it will prompt for a password for the vnc, and will create the 
.vnc 
directory and the xstartup file.
Then I edit the xstartup file and uncomment the two lines.
Then I have to kill the vncserver, and run it again to have the correct desktop 
connect.
I then edit the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file to start the vncserver session 
on 
startup for that user on that port..
Also have to set the server to start under services.

Then the session is automatcially started on boot up, and I can log into the 
machine using vncviewer IPaddress:port
.

 
 
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 On Behalf Of Michael D. Setzer II
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 -
 
 You probable need to look at the xstartup file in the .vnc (period vnc) 
 directory in the users home directory. The file has a statement that you need 
 to uncomment two lines to get the normal screen? Don't know why that isn't 
 the default. 
 
 The Fedora has changed to another vnc program that can be loaded by yum 
 install vncserver, and that is what I  setup on my Fedora 11 systems.
 
 
  What do I have to do to see a copy of the screen (as I would see it if 
  I’d connect a 
  monitor to the Fedora machine)?
  
  Please make it easy, I’m new to Linux… :D
  
  Thanks for any help…
  
 
 
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Re: TightVNC Server

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 8 Aug 2009 at 20:28, Armin Moradi wrote:

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 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Michael D. Setzer
 IImi...@kuentos.guam.net wrote:
  On 8 Aug 2009 at 15:10, Philip Seeger wrote:
 
  From:                   Philip Seeger phi...@philip-seeger.de
  To:                     'Community assistance, encouragement,
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  There is no file in /home/[USER]/.vnc ...?
 
  The Fedora VNC Server called Desktop Sharing doesn't work properly on 
  this computer. I can connect, but the picture is so bad, it's not possible 
  to work like that.
 
  The Desktop sharing was using something called VINO on Fedora 10,
  haven't looked at what Fedora 11 does with that. I use the regular 
  vncserver.
  Logged in as the user I run vncserver :port   (colon port).
  Example: vncserver :50
  That would load a vncserver session using port 5950
  The first time it will prompt for a password for the vnc, and will create 
  the .vnc
  directory and the xstartup file.
  Then I edit the xstartup file and uncomment the two lines.
  Then I have to kill the vncserver, and run it again to have the correct 
  desktop
  connect.
  I then edit the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file to start the vncserver 
  session on
  startup for that user on that port..
  Also have to set the server to start under services.
 
  Then the session is automatcially started on boot up, and I can log into the
  machine using vncviewer IPaddress:port
  .
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Michael D. Setzer II
  Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:22 PM
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  Subject: Re: TightVNC Server
  -
 
  You probable need to look at the xstartup file in the .vnc (period vnc)
  directory in the users home directory. The file has a statement that you 
  need
  to uncomment two lines to get the normal screen? Don't know why that isn't
  the default.
 
  The Fedora has changed to another vnc program that can be loaded by yum
  install vncserver, and that is what I  setup on my Fedora 11 systems.
 
 
       What do I have to do to see a copy of the screen (as I would see it 
   if I’d connect a
       monitor to the Fedora machine)?
  
       Please make it easy, I’m new to Linux… :D
  
       Thanks for any help…
  
 
 
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Methods of setting Disk Partitions.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Is there a better way to setup the disk partitioning?
Usually, I've let the installation just create the partitions, and it has 
created 
the small boot partition and then the LVM with the rest of the space. With 
smaller disk this is OK, but with large disks the LVM partition is huge, so 
doing image backups takes like 1 hour 30 minutes for a 250GB disk. I've 
tried to adjust the size, but the best method I've come up with so far is this.

Just installed a new X64 system with a 500GB disk, and ended up during the 
install switching to screen 2, and using fdisk to create a 200MB /dev/sda1 
and 40GB /dev/sda2 and then created a FAT32 partition /dev/sda3 with the 
rest of the space. Then wrote the setup to disk. Then used fdisk to delete the 
first two partitions. Then continued with the install, and told it to use free 
space, and it installed just using space at the beginning. After finishing, I 
was 
able to reformat the /dev/sda3 to ext4 as a test.

This way I can quickly do an image of the boot and the LVM parition to be 
able to restore the machine if needed.

Thanks.

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Re: Strange Disk Partitionaing issue with Clean Fedora 11 Upgrade

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 24 Jul 2009 at 18:19, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Date sent:  Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:19:44 -0400
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 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  I've had a strange result when doing a clean update to Fedora 11 on my 
  classroom lab systems. 
  
  The machine currently has 98, XP, and Fedora 10. 
  98 is sda1
  XP is sda5
  Boot is sda6
  LVM is sda7 (root and swap)
  
  The sda7 is 37953MB
  
  I go thru the installations, and tell it to replace existing Linux on disk.
  The sda7 partition is changed to 33210MB and leaves 4743MB of Free 
  Space? Any ideal why it would reduce the size of the partition? 
  
 May I take a guess? It took the size of / and made the partition that, and 
 wants 
 swap to be another partition. That's a guess, no refund if wrong.
 

The new LVM on sda7 still has the root and swap (2G) setup. I did a 
preupgrade on another system, and it kept everything the same.

The upgrade has LogVol00 as the root and LogVol01 as swap.
The clean install has lv_root as root and lv_swap as the swap.

Also noticed that upgrade has the swap at the front of the lvm, but clean 
install has it at the end?

I sure the clean install used the ext4 format for the lvm, but the preupgrade 
seems to still have the ext3 format. Wonder if it is something with ext4??

gparted doesn't show ext3 or ext4 for the partition, but just lvm2.

Not sure what might show the ext3 or ext4 of the LVM.

Thanks for the reply. I was able to create another partition using the 4.63GB 
of space, so it didn't seem to be left for something. 





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Strange Disk Partitionaing issue with Clean Fedora 11 Upgrade

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I've had a strange result when doing a clean update to Fedora 11 on my 
classroom lab systems. 

The machine currently has 98, XP, and Fedora 10. 
98 is sda1
XP is sda5
Boot is sda6
LVM is sda7 (root and swap)

The sda7 is 37953MB

I go thru the installations, and tell it to replace existing Linux on disk.
The sda7 partition is changed to 33210MB and leaves 4743MB of Free 
Space? Any ideal why it would reduce the size of the partition? 


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Re: updates are all failling.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 12 Jul 2009 at 8:17, Aaron Konstam wrote:

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 On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 14:52 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
  Just wait a while and try again.  I did a yum update a few minutes ago
  and it failed on the first dozen mirrors and then found one.  So I
  would try again in a few minutes. It takes a while for everything to
  propagate to the mirrors.

Some files are definitely missing from all mirrors. I used yumex, and was 
able to select all the listed updates in groups until I discovered all the ones 
that were there, and that just left the ones that were missing or required 
missing ones as a dependency.


  
  Paolo
 As of 8am CDT the following three things are happening to me:
 1. Running yum update
 causes every mirror access to fail
 2. polycykit seems to be download all 30 updates but then fails to be
 bale to update grubby, gdb and mkinitrd
 3. If I run:
 yum --exclude=grubby\*  --exclude=gdb\*   --exclude=mkinitrd\*  update
 the excludes are ignored and grubby, gdb and mkinitrd are attempted to
 be download but that fails and the whole upgrade fails.
 
 What is going on? I am frustrated.
  
  On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Aaron Konstam
  akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  Package informed me their were updates waiting but trying the
  update
  ended in a error about a repo that could not be reached for
  rpm with
  grubby in its name.
  
  Trying yum update I found 31 rpms to be updated but for every
  one I got
  a message that mirror could not be found.
  
  Anyone else have this problem and know a solution. The
  internet is up on
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Re: i want to deny the access to facebook in my machine

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 27 Jun 2009 at 14:22, Adel ESSAFI wrote:

 
 
 
 Hi 
 thanks, 
 But actually, it does not work 
 
 [r...@localhost ~]# iptables -I OUTPUT -d 69.63.178.11 -j DROP
 [r...@localhost ~]# iptables -I OUTPUT -d 69.63.184.142 -j DROP
 [r...@localhost ~]# iptables -I OUTPUT -d 69.63.176.140 -j DROP
 [r...@localhost ~]# service iptables restart
 iptables: Suppression des règles du pare-feu: [ OK ]
 iptables: Configuration des chaînes sur la politique ACCEP[ OK ]er
 iptables: Déchargement des modules: [ OK ]
 iptables: Application des règles du pare-feu: [ OK ]
 [r...@localhost ~]# telnet www.facebook.com 80
 Trying 69.63.186.11...
 Connected to www.facebook.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.

you would need to check all the ip address. 
dig facebook.com
gives some numbers
but 
dig www.facebook.com 
gives other addresses.

You would probable have to check all those, and the numbers could change.
You could also put a dummy record in hosts file for face book depending on 
how the name resolution is done. 



 
 
 
 Have you any idea why it does not work.
 
 
 regards
 Adel
 
 
 
 2009/6/27 Adam Stokes adam.sto...@gmail.com
 On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:09:13 +0200
 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi list
 
 
  I am using f11 and I want to deny the access to facebook in my
  machine.
 
  I know that I have to use iptable but I find that very complicated.
  Can some one help me.
 
  what commande should I use to make that.
 
  regards
  Adel
 
 
 
 
 iptables -I OUTPUT -d 69.63.178.11 -j DROP
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Re: Unable to boot cloned disk

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 18 Jun 2009 at 19:56, Markus Kesaromous wrote:

 On my workstation, with FC9, I attached a second drive, identical to the 
 linux 
 boot drive.
 Both drives are SATA.
 The linux boot drive is a dual boot of windows XP and FC9.
 
 In single user mode, I cloned sda to sdb
 
 dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
 
 I shut down and remove the second drive and insert it into
 another workstation.
 
 Booting the second workstation fails because it cannot find
 /dev/root, among other things, and the kernel panics.
 
 Repeating the cloning does not seem to have any effect.
 
 This effectively says that an OEM cannot have a master disk to 
 clone disks off of it for use in other machines.

What are the differences between the two machine? Do they have the same 
controller?
Have you checked if putting the cloned drive in the original machine as sda 
works? That would confirm the clone process worked? If it fails you clone 
process failed. 

Are you 100% sure the sdb disk is as large are larger?
How did you run the dd command? Did you boot from a live cd or what?
Did you use a clone program like g4u, g4l, clonezilla?


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Running programs via VNC problem with Fedora 11

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I'm seeing things that work fine under Fedora 10 not work under Fedora 11.
Here is the latest example. 
If connected via vnc, I can run nmapfe as a regular user, but get the 
limitation message about being non-root. 
If I use su and then run the program the following occurs.

No protocol specified
  File /usr/bin/nmapfe, line 102, in module
import zenmapGUI.App
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zenmapGUI/App.py, line 34, in 
module
import gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 79, in 
module
_init()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 67, in 
_init
_gtk.init_check()
No protocol specified
Error in sys.excepthook:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/nmapfe, line 47, in excepthook
import gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 79, in 
module
_init()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 67, in 
_init
_gtk.init_check()
RuntimeError: could not open display

Original exception was:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/nmapfe, line 102, in module
import zenmapGUI.App
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zenmapGUI/App.py, line 34, in 
module
import gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 79, in 
module
_init()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 67, in 
_init
_gtk.init_check()
RuntimeError: could not open display

Since it can run as a regular user, is this a policykit or other error.
Works fine in Fedora 10 and before.

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Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

In attempting to install Fedora 11, I ran into an issue with an IDE ZIP drive.
When it got to the section on disk partition, it would crash with an error 
about 
the Zip disk. I had to physically disconnect the Zip to get it to work? 

My lab has Zips in each computer as hdb, but we seldom use them. I am 
hoping they can be reconnected after the install process. Anyone else seen 
this?

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Re: Missing boot.iso file?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 10 Jun 2009 at 22:06, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

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Subject:Re: Missing boot.iso file?

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:17:23 +1000,
   Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net wrote:
  In the past, I have extracted the DVD iso file to an FTP server, and then 
  burn 
  the boot.iso from the images directory to a CD.  But the images directory 
  of 
  Fedora11 doesn't have a boot.iso, but the README file mentions it. There 
  are a number of .img files, but those are not iso images?
  
  Is the file missing, or is there a method to convert the img files to iso 
  file?
 
 It's only in the Fedora directory, not the Everything directory. (It used
 to be in Everything and I'm not sure why this changed.)
 And it's called Fedora-11-i386-netinst.iso. boot.iso is used for rawhide.

Thanks for the info. I am currently doing an install with the netinst.iso cd. I 
used the method=ftp://202.128.73.28/pub/Fedora11 as I had used with 
version 10 before, and it seems to be working. Not sure it it would have 
prompted or not. The Fedora10 required it.

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Re: Fedora11 issue with IDE ZIP?

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On 11 Jun 2009 at 16:36, Tim wrote:

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 On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 16:48 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  In attempting to install Fedora 11, I ran into an issue with an IDE
  ZIP drive.  When it got to the section on disk partition, it would
  crash with an error about the Zip disk. I had to physically disconnect
  the Zip to get it to work? 
   
  My lab has Zips in each computer as hdb, but we seldom use them. I am 
  hoping they can be reconnected after the install process. Anyone else
  seen this?
 
 I encountered that when installing Fedora Core 4, and earlier, on one
 PC.  In my case it seemed to be a BIOS issue, and the Zip drive being an
 ATAPI device that confused the machine as to which was the drive it
 should boot from to install the OS.  So I disconnected for the install,
 reconnected afterwards, and things worked fine.

Thanks for the reply. I've installed Redhat 9 thru Fedora 10 on this machines 
with no issues with the ZIP disk. The Zip is set to not installed in the BIOS, 
but the 98, XP, and Fedora had no problem seeing it after boot. Not sure 
why it is even looking at the disk. I choose to install using the exist linux 
partitions, so why the partition section was looking at the zip at all, and why 
it 
would result in a fatal error.


 
 Test on one of your machines, to see what happens for you.
 
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Not Authorized error adding printer

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I've tried using system-config-printer and I can connect to the IPP server, 
and see the queues and select the printer, but at the end to add printer it 
fails with an not authorized message. Tried running it via a regular user 
command line and from a root command line. Same error.

This is what the command line shows, thou the gui shows no error other than 
the not authorized.

Caught non-fatal exception.  Traceback:
File /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py, line 4137, in 
nextNPTab
encryption=encryption)
RuntimeError: httpConnectionEncrypt failed
Continuing anyway..

Tried adding the printer by using the jetdirect option, but it also ends with a 
not authorized message, but nothing shows on the command line.

I was finally able to get the printer added but using the browser on the 
machine to connect to 127.0.0.1:631 and go thru the process to add the 
same IPP printer. It then showed up in the system-config-printer list. So, not 
sure what is going on??

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Missing boot.iso file?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

In the past, I have extracted the DVD iso file to an FTP server, and then burn 
the boot.iso from the images directory to a CD.  But the images directory of 
Fedora11 doesn't have a boot.iso, but the README file mentions it. There 
are a number of .img files, but those are not iso images?

Is the file missing, or is there a method to convert the img files to iso file?


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system-config-selinux error after updates

[Michael D. Setzer II]

After doing the latest update the selinux manager and system-config-selinux 
are not working.

When run from the command line this is what I get.


/usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py:72: Warning: 
IA__g_object_get_valist: object class `GnomeProgram' has no property 
named `default-icon'
  xml = gtk.glade.XML (/usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-
selinux.glade, domain=PROGNAME)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py, line 188, 
in 
module
app = childWindow()
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py, line 91, in 
__init__
self.add_page(portsPage.portsPage(xml))
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/portsPage.py, line 69, in __init__
self.load()
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/portsPage.py, line 136, in load
self.store.set_value(iter, PROTOCOL_COL, k[2])
IndexError: tuple index out of range


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Re: system-config-selinux error after updates

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 24 May 2009 at 1:54, Anthony Messina wrote:


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 On Sunday 24 May 2009 01:43:57 am Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  After doing the latest update the selinux manager and system-config-selinux
  are not working.
 
  When run from the command line this is what I get.
 
 
  /usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py:72: Warning:
  IA__g_object_get_valist: object class `GnomeProgram' has no property
  named `default-icon'
  xml = gtk.glade.XML (/usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-
  selinux.glade, domain=PROGNAME)
  Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py, line
  188, in module
  app = childWindow()
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/system-config-selinux.py, line
  91, in __init__
  self.add_page(portsPage.portsPage(xml))
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/portsPage.py, line 69, in
  __init__ self.load()
  File /usr/share/system-config-selinux/portsPage.py, line 136, in load
  self.store.set_value(iter, PROTOCOL_COL, k[2])
  IndexError: tuple index out of range
 
 Did you file a bug report? I found the exact same issue about 5 minutes ago!!
 


Though I would check the list first. Reimaged a machine and it worked fine, 
then did the updates again, and it gives the error message again. So it 
definitly is the latest updates.




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Re: Backing up whole system

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On 9 May 2009 at 22:13, Robert L Cochran wrote:

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 For just one or two systems I would use G4U by Hubert Feyrer ( 
 http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ ) or G4L by Michael D. Setzer II (please see 
 his post in this thread.) I like to clone an entire hard disk and then 
 store the clone offsite.
 

I concure that G4U is also good program, and have had some discussions 
with Mr. Feyrer, since there were some issues with the previous maintainers 
of G4L and him. I believe these have been resolved. I found the G4L project 
in a state, and was able to make updates since I had access to linux, but no 
NETBSD experience.

 I have not used G4L enough to gain real experience with it. I should try 
 to work with it enough to record a successful cloning action with G4L. 
 With that said, my impression is that G4U adapts a little better to many 
 but not all hardware setups. Hardware that G4U does not know about will 
 render it unbootable or unusable. And very often, if G4U doesn't work on 
 a given machine, G4L has trouble on it too. If both G4U and G4L do not 
 work for me on a given machine, I move the disk I want to clone to 
 another machine, and try to use G4U on that. If it seems to boot I go 
 ahead with the cloning action.
 

The above is a little outside my experience. I've generally found that g4l 
supports hardware that g4u doesn't, at least with the later linux kernels. I 
have had a couple of users that had hardware that didn't work, and either 
adding modes to the kernel.org  kernels, or waiting till the support was added 
to the kernel. The g4l has many kernels on the iso, so that if the default 
doesn't work, the older ones might. So, not sure if the issues you referred to 
might be people that the default kernel didn't work, or later versions might.


 I really should try to use G4L more often, too.
 

I wish I did have more users communicate. Generally get 8,000 or more 
downloads a month. 

 The up side of G4U/G4L is they both offer simple and quick cloning 
 action without going through the $%^ of setting up certain dedicated 
 backup software packages such as Amanda.
 

The ease of using ftp or external usb devices to backup, and with later 
versions sshfs and cifs with the 0.30 versions. It also has the option of doing 
NTFSCLONE backups of ntfs partitions that are much faster than dd 
backups.

 The down side of using G4U is that if you try to clone drive A to an 
 external USB hard drive, the cloning action can take many hours. It is 
 not quick. I have insufficient experience with G4L to discuss its 
 performance.
 

For the most part I see this as an USB 1 verses USB 2 support. Found that 
some P4 still had only USB 1, and about 1MB is the best you could get, with 
a USB 2 supprt it wasn't as fast as have an IDE connection.


 I also use scp to copy important files to a network drive and while this 
 is a backup, it is not an offsite backup. Very important difference. 
 There are businesses like Web Hosting Talk which admit they made severe 
 mistakes by not maintaining offsite backups. I should probably look into 
 doing that.
 
 Even homes now generally have more than one computer. Multiple laptops, 
 one for each member of a family, are very common. I'd have to think 
 about an effective backup strategy for those cases.
 
 For nontechnical users one simply cannot use complex backup solutions 
 though. I have enough experience to realize that. If the solution isn't 
 simple and automatic it won't be used. For technical users, the same 
 might apply, too, because tech people tend to be rather busy with tasks 
 other than backup and recovery. A backup solution really needs to be as 
 simple as turning a key.
 

The biggest issue with G4L has been the outdated documentation, and I 
have 3 students working on updating the documentation, but they had little 
linux or scripting background, but have gotten use to running the program.


 Bob
 
 
 
 
 
 On 05/09/2009 09:15 AM, GMS S wrote:
  What is the best and easy way to backup whole fedora 10?
 
  Thanks.
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Re: Backing up whole system

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On 9 May 2009 at 6:15, GMS S wrote:

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 What is the best and easy way to backup whole fedora 10?
 

What kind of backup are you trying to do?
I am the current maintainer of G4L, which is a live cd, and currently buiding 
using my Fedora 10 systems and use to backup my computer labs. It is 
basically a bare-bones backup usng dd and various compression options to 
backup disks or partition. A disk backup copies everything, so it can restore a 
system to a previous stare quickly. My lab has 80GB disks with 
98/XP/Fedora 10 and it does a full backup in about 50 minutes using lzop 
compression and 40 minutes to restore. lzop is about twice as fast as gzip 
with my systems and only 10% larger image.  

It can be run from a boot cd, but I added it as grub option to elimanate the 
need to insert the cd each time.

title G4l
 kernel /bz29.1 ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
 initrd /ramdisk.gz

These just requires copying one of the kernels from the iso or dev kit, and 
placing it and the ramdisk.gz file in the boot directory. 

The latest alpha version is 
ftp://amd64gcc.dyndns.org/g4l-v0.30alpha57.iso
ftp://amd64gcc.dyndns.org/g4l-v0.30a57.devel.tar.gz

But the released 0.29 is on sourceforge, but doesn't have the latest kernels.

One final note. This backups up to an ftp server, or to external usb devices. 
It is also totally free, and the dev kit has full source code.


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Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.

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On 22 Apr 2009 at 13:52, Steve Ellis wrote:

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 Mark Haney wrote:
  Tim Waugh wrote:

  Mark Haney wrote:
  
  And on a side note, you can also use vnc to do GUI type things like
  installing apps and updates as well.

  No, this hasn't worked for me on Fedora 10 for a while (yes, bugzilla
  report filed).
 
  Is it actually working for you?  Are you using the 'vncserver'
  initscript to start the VNC session?
 
  Tim.
  */
 
  
 
  Yes and yes.  It works perfectly for me.  I've had no trouble at all.
 
 

 Like Tim and unlike Mark, I also have trouble with this--I believe this 
 is a selinux-enabled problem with respect to PackageKit/PolicyKit and 
 VNC sessions, at least based on the googling that I've been able to do.  
 I've tried changing policy from my actual console (which is 
 inconveniently 7 feet off the ground in the garage), but have thus far 
 been unable to have much luck--I haven't tried completely wide-open 
 policies though.  I did install yumex for finding installables, 
 however.   I use 'yum update' from the command line for regular updating.
 
 -se
 

You do have to open up the port in the firewall.
system-config-firewall 
other ports
Click Add
Enter port 5900 + port you use for server 
Example:
vncserver :50
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Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 22 Apr 2009 at 14:47, Steve Ellis wrote:

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Subject:Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.

 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  On 22 Apr 2009 at 13:52, Steve Ellis wrote:
 
 

  Like Tim and unlike Mark, I also have trouble with this--I believe this 
  is a selinux-enabled problem with respect to PackageKit/PolicyKit and 
  VNC sessions, at least based on the googling that I've been able to do.  
  I've tried changing policy from my actual console (which is 
  inconveniently 7 feet off the ground in the garage), but have thus far 
  been unable to have much luck--I haven't tried completely wide-open 
  policies though.  I did install yumex for finding installables, 
  however.   I use 'yum update' from the command line for regular updating.
 
  -se
 
  
 
  You do have to open up the port in the firewall.
  system-config-firewall 
  other ports
  Click Add
  Enter port 5900 + port you use for server 
  Example:
  vncserver :50
  Add port 5950 TCP
 
 

 Thanks for the suggestion, but firewall blocking vnc is not part of my 
 problem--I have no trouble vnc'ing into my system, I've already opened 
 the firewall appropriately.  In fact, I'm vnc'ed into my system over an 
 ssh tunnel from my office right now.  The problem I (and likely Tim) hit 
 manifests as a dialog box when running 
 System-Administration-Add/Remove Software that says:
 
 Package installer is running when the session is not active
 These applications should be run only when on active console.
 This normally indicates a bug with your remote desktop implementation.
 
 However, I'm now thinking it may not have anything to do with selinux, 
 as I see that I switched to Permissive mode--I don't recall when I did 
 that, but I'm guessing it was before my vnc session was last restarted.  
 In my copious free time I'll climb back up on my step ladder and try to 
 tweak the settings in System-Preferences-System-Authorizations 
 further to see if I can get anywhere.

I see what you mean now. See the same error. I use yumex and it seems to 
work fine from vnc. 


 
 -se


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Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.

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 On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 08:03 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  I see what you mean now. See the same error. I use yumex and it seems
  to work fine from vnc. 
 
 You need to add authorisations to do this from an inactive console in
 polkit-gnome-authorization. It's denied by default.
 

Where does one do that? 

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Re: Backing up system

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Hope this isn't to Off-Topic... but related info.

Been watching this thread, and want to mention the methods that I have 
used. G4L and G4U can both do disk and partition images. I must point out 
that I am the current maintainer of the Free G4L. 

I develop the system on my Fedora machines, but it uses the kernel.org 
kernels. The program can be booted from the cd, or it can be added to a 
system by adding options to the grub menu, or even from windows using 
grub4dos. 

It is basically using the dd command to copy the sectors, and uses lzop, gzip, 
bzip2 or no compression on the image. It can backup to an ftp server, or to 
another disk or partition, or make a clone of a disk. It is not a file level 
backup, up disk or partition. 

I use it in my computer lab to backup the 80GB disk with 98, XP, and Fedora 
10  in about 50 minutes making a 12GB image file on a 250GB disk on my 
AMD64 Fedora machine. 

It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce 
space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing. 

The program is available on sourceforge and freshmeat. 


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Re: Backing up system

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 27 Mar 2009 at 12:42, Bill Crawford wrote:

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 On Friday 27 March 2009 09:01:30 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 
  It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce
  space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing.
 
 How do you do that?

The cd has various scripts and programs on it to help.
cleandrive is the simplest script that free space for linux/unix.

dd if=/dev/zero of=/0bits bs=20M
rm /0bits

That script does it, but no feedback on process. cleandrive5 and cleandrive6 
do the same but use Dialog or Xdialog to provide a progress bar. The require 
the appropriate dialog program be installed and the jetcat-mod program 
copied to the / directory. 

For fat32 and ntfs partitions blank6.exe can be used to clear free space for 
Windows. The is a lblank6 linux program that does a similar task from linux 
on the mounted fat32 or ntfs partition. 

Additionally, there are other programs on the web that do this.

Long ago, I had done a Fedora 3 full install on a 80GB disk, and did an 
image. Produced a 12GB compressed image file. Then cleared unused 
space, and redid image. Only a 2.5GB image file. So, the random 
information from the drive took 9.5GB of space.



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Re: Dual boot WinXP repair (maybe a little OT)

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I saw a similar issue in my lab.
Check the boot.ini file that is used by the Windows boot loader. It lists the 
disk and partition information, and if you change the partitions this number 
will be wrong. You might be able to change the partition number, and it might 
work.



On 4 Mar 2009 at 18:23, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

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 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:36 -0500, Mauriat wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
   So I installed WinXP on an old computer, then repartitioned with
   qparted. I added a partition in front of the Windows one for /boot and
   one after for a LVM volume. Then I installed F10. I loaded grub in the
   boot record of the /boot partition and left the MBR alone. I
   re-numbered the partitions so that /boot is sda1, Windows is sda2, and
   the rest is sda3. There is no extended partition.
  
   Now WinXP won't boot.
  
   Is there a simple way to reconfigure the WinXP side so that its boot
   loader works again (without re-installing)? I changed the boot.ini
   partition number, but that didn't help.
  
  Just curious, what is the advantage of putting /boot before the XP 
  partition?
 
 Actually, force of habit, left over from the days when /boot had to live
 in the first 1024 cylinders.  
 
  
  Did you try booting the XP cd and using the recovery console?  I think
  there are some commands for trying to fix the boot record.
 
 Not yet.  I'll give it a shot if there's nothing easier.
 
  
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Fedora 10 installation on Sony Notebook VGNFW235J

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Have a strange issue trying to install Fedora 10 on a students new Sony 
Notebook. The initial  install process has the screen going to a weird gray 
screen after the cd process, so the gui process would not work. Then tried it 
with a text install, and the process went thru completely, but on boot only 
came up with a text login. Startx would give the same gray screen

I was able to copy an xorg.conf file from a machine with vesa setup, and this 
time startx did come up, but it never did the startup process that is normal.

Is there some option or something that needs to be done to get a good install 
on the Sony notebook??

Thanks.

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Re: Fedora 10 installation on Sony Notebook VGNFW235J

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 22 Jan 2009 at 10:48, Phil Meyer wrote:

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VGNFW235J

 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
  Have a strange issue trying to install Fedora 10 on a students new Sony 
  Notebook. The initial  install process has the screen going to a weird gray 
  screen after the cd process, so the gui process would not work. Then tried 
  it 
  with a text install, and the process went thru completely, but on boot only 
  came up with a text login. Startx would give the same gray screen
 
  I was able to copy an xorg.conf file from a machine with vesa setup, and 
  this 
  time startx did come up, but it never did the startup process that is 
  normal.
 
  Is there some option or something that needs to be done to get a good 
  install 
  on the Sony notebook??

 
 Installing in text mode causes anaconda to ASSUME that you want to start 
 in run mode 3 (no X).
 
 edit /etc/inittab and set the default run level to 5

Thanks for the reply. After the install it had booted up what normally is the 
first boot screen where you create a user and go thru the options. This just 
gave the grayish screen. Restarted in text mode, and tried startx, but same 
grayish screen. Then saw there was no xorg.conf file at all, so copied an 
xorg.conf from a machine using vesa. Then ran startx and goes directly to 
desktop, and seems to be OK. I'll have to check the level, and see if it comes 
up with the login screen on the boot. 

Is there perhaps a startup kernel option that could allow for a regular gui 
installation on this Sony? I had a different issue with a Sony about 1 year 
ago, with Fedora 8, and it had a kernel option that got around the issue, but 
couldn't find something related to this one. Other students notebooks have 
installed Fedora with no problems, but this is a brand new higher end one, 
and has VISTA as its default OS.

Thanks again.


 
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Wierd permissions running system-config-services.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I modified the /etc/pam.d/gdm to allow the root gui login by commenting the 
user != root, and that worked, but have a strange result.

Running Systems Administration Services runs the system-config-services 
program, but nothing changes.

Starting program from a terminal window also results in no change, but does 
show messages on the terminal window, but nothing on the gui.

Doing an su - in the terminal window, and then running system-config-
services results in a working program, and no messages displaying on the 
terminal window. 

Looked at the env and found the XAUTHORITY is very different between the 
regular root terminal and the su - root terminal.

XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm/auth-for-root-Xu1s9h/database
versus
XAUTHORITY=/root/.xauthC1kFTM

There are other differences in the environment, but that is what stands out.

With a regular user, running these things prompts for the root id. 


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F10 - method= option

[Michael D. Setzer II]

In past version, one could copy the dvd files to an ftp server, and burn the 
boot.iso file to be able to do a ftp install. It appears that now one must boot 
for the cd, and edit the boot line and add method=ftp://server/directory

Seems to work, but not sure why the installation process was changed?

Second, On the system I am testing on, after the installation, login to the 
Xwindow with the root id fails with an authentication error.  I can login with 
a 
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Setting up system for use of multiple access paths

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My College has a T-1 connection that has been having some major 
problems, being down for 7 hours and 20 minuts the other day. I have had a 
bridge to a DSL line that provided a backup for Internet access thru a 
Fedora machine with a squid server. Just got a Cable line with a 4.2Mb 
connection that is now also connected to this machine, but now it uses the 
Cable as the devault path. Ideally, I would like to setup a system in what all 
the various internet bandwidth could be used. 

The best option that I can currently think of is setting up a squid server with 
each of the access points (T-1, DSL, and Cable) and have them in a round 
robin configuration, but that requres 3 machines. The one system does have 
access to all the networks, but currently only the default route is used by a 
machine. Perhaps there are others that might have a similar situation with 
two of more access routes.

Thanks.

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