Re: MariaDB and Fedora
Yes, I'm comparing the codes right now and they seems very similar. not the code, the spec he means you may start by reusing the spec file of mysql -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves. Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today: I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in no way_ a gender-neutral compliment. since he had used many of whom instead of many of which when referring to packages, I guess English is not his mother language and in his native language real men could be gender-neutral. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, On 11/30/2009 11:49 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: I guess all the female hackers are just SOL? I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves. Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today: I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in no way_ a gender-neutral compliment. - Chris. ¹: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/125130 -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: example content
Will all this magical content be in one easily-removable package? ;-) maybe we need something like fedora-logos and generic-logos ie. fedora-samples and generic-samples (for easy trademark re-branding) they both may provide system-samples or desktop-samples (other spins could have kde-desktop-samples and desktop-common-samples) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
upgrade fedora's pyfribidi
Hello, a patch to fix bidi problem in reportlab did do shaping/joining for Arabic despite that we are using fribidi2 (we call it fribidi) http://two.pairlist.net/pipermail/reportlab-users/2009-November/008962.html from fribidi.org There is a release of the fribidi2 modules available now, which is fribidi-0.19.2.tar.gz ... The Fedora project simply upgraded to 0.19 series from 0.10 without any compatibility issues. Using this version instead of 0.10 series is highly recommended. but we are using an old pyfribidi the developers of pyfribidi choose to call it pyfribidi2 despite that there is no API/ABI compatibility issues. so I patched pyfribidi2 so that it's called pyfribidi please use my pyfribidi.spec and update the version of pyfribidi pyfribidi.spec Description: Binary data -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
bug solved, we can now make an rpm for xul sqlite-manager
hello,
I tried to make an rpm package for xul sqlite-manager
it's a xul app and a firefox plugin (forget about the plugin)
http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/downloads/list
http://sqlite-manager.googlecode.com/files/SQLiteManager_XR_0.5.6.zip
there was a problem, and it's solved now
http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/issues/detail?id=309
I suggest we make an rpm for it and add it to the repos
what does it do ?
it's a simple desktop/personal database application using sqlite and xulrunner
it can be used where kile or oo.o-base does not fit like livecd
how to pack it ?
make a simple .spec file with %install like this
xulrunner --install-app %{S:1} ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{_datadir}/%{name}
mkdir -p ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{_bindir}/
ln %{_datadir}/%{name}/sqlite-manager/sqlite-manager
${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{_bindir}/%{name}
what do you think ?
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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Offensive_Packages hahaha! what a bad joke! not only you advertise pornography packages you give conclusions and according to which things you called offensive packages made a pornography packages equivalent to glorifying God (minbar package) how cheap this listing is more silly that my x-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/InappropriateContents and as I said before this is nothing but advertising pornography packages note: within one work day, I can make an equivalent to gn*ty but with that very site replaces with one which shows the propaganda of some group/organization which you might consider to be terrorist organization, and then file a package review ticket I want to see how would you reject it with something that does not apply to gn*ty sorry to use this fictitious example but this is the only way you are programmed to accept censorship. the only thing gn*ty package do is to advertise a single site the only thing that the site do is to show videos that are illegal in many places (merely pornography) yes there are no guidelines in fedora packaging against advertising and there are no guidelines in fedora packaging against pornography but the same can be said Nazi propaganda advertising. or any similar topic I guess it's the time to remove gn*ty from fedora's repos no need for censorship, it's just the community as this is the second long thread about it is made. one of the four fundamentals in fedora is Friends ie. the community ie. us. You and me. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty (was: Re: Who do I send to get a package removed...)
I asked the fedorians if they can't remove such packages just to maintain a list of such packages so I would add them to exception list in yum.conf, they offended me and tried to shoot me, so be warned and prepared to be Trolled http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#Troll -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty (was: Re: Who do I send to get a package removed...)
You were told to do the work yourself. I see your still looking for someone else to do it for you. Schwendt! see how they weren't listening, I told them I already prepared that list even before the original message was posted. TK009, I do my own homework myself. I did not invite Mr. Schwendt to do mine nor to help me, I just give him a prediction about the hostile community attitude toward him, and you demonstrated that practically ;-) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty (was: Re: Who do I send to get a package removed...)
You were told to do the work yourself. I see your still looking for someone else to do it for you. Good luck with that I forget to mention that I was convinced by one of the fedorians that maintaining such list on a public web site is worse because it would be like advertising. I'm no longer ask for just list to be made. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: creating a updated DVD with fedora install
we in ojuba.org have produced an updated Fedora-11-based distro + rpmfusion + extra Arabic/Islamic software this was on 2009/09/16 you may like to give it a try. http://distrowatch.com/ojuba http://www.ojuba.org/wiki/news/14300926-en as mentioned by John Reiser we have used pungi -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum update vs. blender
and the solution is ? have you reported that on bugzilla against kde ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto not on by default
setting xz level to 2 seems reasonable but how about thinking about a better solution: Q: what put the gpg signatures ? A: rpmbuild (or something that call it like mock) so how about to make rpmbuild generate gpg and checksums on both uncompressed and uncompressed payloads so every rpm would carry the signatures and checksums if its payload is decompressed beside the typical signatures and checksums maybe this is not for F12 as it could require some changes in rpm, yum, deltarpm, ...etc. but this is the right thing http://fedoratux.blogspot.com/2009/05/xz-compression.html the default is -6 we are talking about -2 could you please do your benchmarks at that level please -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: default fonts in Fedora
@base-x is a pretty broken comps group, to be honest. I'd really like to see a split between the minimal stuff needed to make X work and a bunch of desktop-agnostic stuff. how about having a group minimal-x beside base-x so that it would be easy to compose a minimal lxde-based spin -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[PATCH] anaconda upgrade from same version
it seems that anaconda wants that anaconda's upgrade requires a version that is strictly older than current ie. one can't upgrade an alpha/bera or even same version I suggest the following http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/anaconda.git?p=anaconda.git;a=blob;f=installclasses/fedora.py;h=d3add70353030081f6028924ebbf667ed3a4af10;hb=HEAD#l112 - return newVer oldVer and newVer - oldVer = 2 + return newVer = oldVer and newVer - oldVer = 2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
how to pack an rpm for sqlite manager the xul application
hello, Sqlite manager is now made an application not just an extension http://sqlite-manager.googlecode.com/files/SQLiteManager_XR_0.5.2b3.zip (it's supposed to be noarch since it uses python) I can run it like this xulrunner path/application.ini but I tried to copy it to /usr/share/SQLiteManager/ then run as regular user xulrunner /usr/share/SQLiteManager/application.ini it did not work I also tried xulrunner --install-app /path/to/SQLiteManager_XR_0.5.2b3.zip /usr/share/ SQLiteManager and it won't run so what is the right way to make an rpm for it ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: how to determain those no longer required packages
warning: leaves in package-cleanup or remove-with-leaves could be your preferred application because it's a leaf [ie. no installed package depends on it, eg. pidgin or uget] there is a flag in conf of remove-with-leaves to exclude non-library binary packages from being removed Yum does not trace if some package is installed per user request or pulled for dependency -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Some ideas/questions about yum
1. Since Fedora 4, Fedora doesn't support installing software from DVD out of the box. Fedora 8 is an exception here. Currently, it seems that the work is almost done (99% completed as in [1]), and fixing the remaining 1% doesn't seem to need much work but unfortunately it seems that it is stopped. I think requesting a small collaboration between the feature owner, PolicyKit and/or GIO people is not too much. I have done that part 100% for yumex nextgen and it will work in F12 since the patch was accepted upstream (you just need to copy media.repo from the DVD to /etc/yum.repos.d/) but the PK implementation got a problem either we modify the file /usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.policy to grant root to access org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.filesystem-mount or wait till the PK API is rewritten so that mounting is done in the non-privileged console user part and since the second option can't be done in F12 time and the first option is needs a policy change [which I can't change] you won't have this feature in F12 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
gio does not report any removable media
hello I'm implementing media repo and they asked me to do it using GIO and I did so, but while testing it I noticed that there is a bug in GIO when running as root and here is a small session of it [als...@pc1 yum]$ python Python 2.6 (r26:66714, Jun 8 2009, 16:07:26) [GCC 4.4.0 20090506 (Red Hat 4.4.0-4)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import gio vm=gio.volume_monitor_get() filter(lambda d: d.is_media_removable(),vm.get_connected_drives()) [__main__.GProxyDrive at 0x8429e8c: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH20NS10] ^D [als...@pc1 yum]$ su -l Password: [r...@pc1 ~]# python Python 2.6 (r26:66714, Jun 8 2009, 16:07:26) [GCC 4.4.0 20090506 (Red Hat 4.4.0-4)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import gio vm=gio.volume_monitor_get() filter(lambda d: d.is_media_removable(),vm.get_connected_drives()) [] -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
MediaRepo: help needed in Packagekit
hello, I started an effort to add a feature to fedora https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MediaRepo I was told by David Zeuthen that the API of DeviceKit-disks is not yet stable he advised me to use GIO (GVolumeMonitor) so I made my patch implementation independent we can use HAL or DeviceKit or GIO the only thing need to be changed in different implementations is from yumMediaManager import MediaManager should be from yumMediaManagerHAL import MediaManager or from yumMediaManagerGIO import MediaManager ..etc. Richard Hughes had accepted my patch http://cgit.freedesktop.org/packagekit/commit/?id=3a75f454a53294a62a8f1eb93d0c3e53cc02a966 as you can see in that commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/packagekit/tree/backends/yum/yumMediaManager.py there is no implementation but I made a HAL implementation, you can find it in PK mailing list http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/packagekit/2009-July/005166.html I know hal is to be dropped, the hal code it's just a placeholder I want some to help me having a GIO version and a deviceKit version of yumMediaManager.py can anybody tell me what is the command line in deviceKit that works like this HAL dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal /org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager org.freedesktop.Hal.Manager.FindDeviceByCapability string:volume.disc or a simple hello world GIO segmetn in python that just list devices ..etc. any kind of help is welcome -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Are all your Fedora 12 Features Where They Should be?
my feature is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MediaRepo and the feature works, the rest is to minor fixes, license issues, communication with upstream. I've just added https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureReadyForWrangler how much time do I have to make it 100% complete ? should it be 100% complete before http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureReadyForFesco -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Are all your Fedora 12 Features Where They Should be?
as I said in the IRC, I'm going to replace that file completely and things like that are the 50% I have not made yet, but should I do those now ? can't the feature be 50% complete to be Ready For Wrangler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Are all your Fedora 12 Features Where They Should be?
no, should it ? it currently check for optical media CD/DVD that matches the media.repo file like the DVD used for installation. please use the talk page to tell us why do you think it should check for all removable media not just CDs/DVDs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Interested in scanning?
I got a BenQ scanner lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04a5:20f8 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) Benq 5000 I have the firmware installed and set in snapscan backend conf, and it used to work in other distros but scanning fails scanimage -x 100 -y 100 --format=tiff image.tiff [snapscan] Scanner warming up - waiting 30 seconds. scanimage: sane_start: Error during device I/O User defined signal 1 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Features Needing Updates
I proposed this feature https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MediaRepo and I implemented the solution for yumex (about 25%) and contacted the upstream (he asked me to do that in yumex nextgen and that's not a problem) the next step is to do that in PK (another 25%) I hope I can do that today 50% is to clean up the CDROM mounting routines because they use old HAL code I was advised to use GIO and GVolumeMonitor because DeviceKit-disks API won't be stable in F12 nor F13 regardless of any of those factors, what should I do to make this feature be part of F12 features ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
RFE: clean up keyboard layout config
Hello everybody, I was tracing a problem that was no reproducible getting Error activating XKB configuration as I'm not the only one who got this error, just google for it and see some times is could be a result of broken language files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487583 but it's very difficult to trace the problem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508628 what do we want ? 1. we want to a way to select a system wide layout 2. we want to allow users to override that (per-user layout) the problem ? issues solving #1 rhpl - used by fedora-setup-keyboard at compile time [is the any other usage ?] this mean that any update to rhpl needs a rebuild for fedora-setup-keyboard so does koji knows this ? after #487583, rhpl was updated rhpl to put ara and make the variant qwerty passed to ara not us this could result that one can't add new users in first login because the default layout is Arabic fedora-setup-keyboard - beside building issue there is another issue it reads /etc/sysconfig/keyboard which could contain something like KEYTABLE=ar-qwerty [from rhpl] or detailed parameters like LAYOUT, OPTIONS and VARIANT the question is what happened if both are specified ? the second question which is related to #487583 while setxkbmap manual says it does not support per-layout variants does this apply to fedora-setup-keyboard (and is this inherited from evdev hal interface) if not then it rhpl should be updated to be us,ara with variants=,querty and if possible change it to be layout1\tvariant1,layout2\tvariant2 or something like that xkeyboard-config - the arabic part in it, is it difficult to make it defaults to qwerty so that KEYTABLE=ar-qwerty needs no variants at all, and ar-azerty will be just coupled with fr,ara instead. how to test this ? gnome and gdm should not be used to test this I suggest xfce to test this stage [I used autologin in gdm to stop it from playing withouts] because both gdm and gnome interferes this process - issues solving #2 gdm - to what options ? unable to login in many cases, for example after #487583 they updated rhpl to put ara first but gdm did not allow me to switch using shifts or shift caps or alt+shift and using a special debug stubs I injected into libgnomekbd, it seems that gdm does not set options like grp:alt_shift_toggle, it just set layouts, gnome - in general we have the following components gnome-settings-daemon - which activates the layout based on gconf /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd this is the one that shows that dialog in the screenshot control-center - contains gnome-keyboard-properties libgnomekbd - the library that talks to libxklavier and converts to gconf libxklavier - the back end library used by gnome related apps it seems that there is a bug libgnomekbd, because it though that the comma in ara,us should be escaped as it wrote ara\,us to gconf when I set multiple variants in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard or rhpl so even though libxklavier and thus libgnomekbd supports multiple variants it failed to import it from the current X -- misc issues xorg-x11-utils - contains xprop which is used like this xprop -root | grep XKB xorg-x11-xkb-utils - contains setxkbmap - the man page says that it takes only one single variant not a list of variants does setxkbmap supports multiple variants but it's not documented or it's not supported if it's the first then its man page should be updated with examples it it does not support it how difficult is it to make it support it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PolicyKit and malware, was: What I HATE about F11
If one application acquires an authorization it automatically authorizes all other applications running on the same desktop -- and I think that is a potential attack vector for malware. maybe this is about sudo and a like things but PolicyKit is designed AFAIK to be much fine grained, it does not give privileges to entire applications, for example I can grant system-config-something the right to write some file this does not mean that I grant it other rights http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/polkit-spec-history.html http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/intro-define-problem.html http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/model.html and from the last one we read EOQ PolicyKit assumes a model where a program is split into two parts. One part, the Mechanism, runs privileged (with no user interface elements) and the other part, the policy agent, runs unprivileged. The two parts of the program are in different processes and communicate through some IPC mechanism such as pipes or the system message bus (D-Bus). In some instances the Mechanism can be considered part of the core OS and the policy agent part of the desktop stack. EOQ for example when I double click on some partition on the harddisk I'll be asked for the password, this does not mean that nautilus or whatever is privileged -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: using CD/DVD as media
I give up trying to reason with you. Bye. don't be offended, I myself was from those who had disabled the feature in mandriva [when it was mandrake] but I'm not a typical user because * I have fast internet at home [which most people in my country don't] * I keep iso files and loop back them or copy their content on my harddisk and create my local repo [which many end-users can't do] so the feature is important, even if it's not important to me and you -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: using CD/DVD as media
It appears that existing media sources can be enabled or can be disabled in the GUI by marking the check boxes or unmarking the check boxes. In my Fedora 11 it does not show a CD or DVD source. You would have to add them, as in the example that I pointed to earlier, yourself. From what I read it works. I can not really confirm that because I have not done that. Nor will I because it is not what I want. Similar to yumex. -- a bit you can't add the media itself as a repo [not a copy of it nor a file:// something I'm talking about the removable media] not in PK nor yumex nor any other tool -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: using CD/DVD as media
I believe that the way to do this is to *write* a repo configuration file that *points* to the DVD drive. Which is what that article said to do. And no you can not put the disk in the drive and expect the GUI applications to add it for you. And that, I don't think, is considered a 'bug'. So if you want this to change you need to write a Bugzilla RFE. Not a Bugzilla bug. That would put you in direct contact with the developer and not a common user like I am. hello!! you miss the key point here, the media is REMOVABLE and you need to handle media insertion and removal notice that I asked about new UI for media change I guess it means a dialog box which says please insert the disk label so and so -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: hda-verb and sound problems with Acer Aspire 8930G
thanks, that's useful I'll try to make an rpm for hda-verb and make a brother of mine test it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: welcome to fedora
maybe a trivial pygtk script ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
does the upstream web site for evolution carries a note that it's not suitable for certain group of users ? does the maintainers or reviewers see that it should ? am I the only one who knows that if p then q will evaluate to T when p=F yes, I hope that no one in fedora project pack nudity images in official repos of fedora, but I have no power to stop them from doing so, that's way I suggested when someone want's to do let he warn us in a wiki page if he or his upstream carries such a note. some one asked me to pay the rating fees for every package! other started to give me examples about different people having different opinions I consider all this is off-topic. yes, English is not my first language, and law is not one of my interests, and for sure there exists a better phrasing of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/InappropriateContents but nobody have shown me a serious problem in that page Don't tie words together, separate them with spaces (MediaWiki will transform them in underscores). ok that's an easy task Inappropriate_Packages_Advisory Also, those packages are not inappropriate. They _might be_. let's say Suggested_Inappropriate_Packages_Advisory but I guess that Advisory and Suggested carries same meaning I think we should go with one of the two words (either Suggested or Advisory) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
am I the only one who knows that if p then q will evaluate to T when p=F As you neither did define the relation of T or F to either p or q your proof is just a logical fallacy. I fear the same is true for your inappropriateness-rating. It's full of fail. the statement was like this if it was rated, if the upstream, if the maintainer feels ... - add a comment if non of those happened, ie. it was not rated nor the upstream carries such note nor the maintainer feels that it should then the whole statement is true ie. it should not stop the package from being accepted. The wiki on fedoraproject.org is most likely not the right place for such a list. then ok, it seems this is true and I realize that too late sorry for wasting your time. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry, but our users trust us [in ojuba.org spin] to provide packages that respect our family values and moralities -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
comps group or force some %group in spec files or modify pkgdb to have tags or any thing, I just need to know all such packages them regarding the output of yum search, yes I expected that from the post of Mathieu Bridon (bochecha), and I was shocked it was there!! anyway, I really need a list of packages like the above p0rn-comfort, hot-babe, gnaughty is there anything else ? some how FLOSS projects lost their attitude, for example open arena start putting a note: it may not be suitable for children under 17. and their page contains a very offensive statement If you want a game for kids you will want to play SDL Sopwith but **it is just as fun** and contains no objectionable materials! and when I heard about world of padman as a game in which you shoot with paints instead of violent weapons I expected something moral and decent but it wasn't maybe if we wait a few years such projects will put explicit materials I guess someone should point to http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/x168.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers although in ojuba we use ourown comps files, but this is a catastrophe because they are merged! I guess there is an option for hidden groups On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I suspect a list in the wiki would quickly become outdated. Might be worth adding a comps group if enough of them add up. The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers saying Adult packages (or something like that). Some might think of it as advertisement... Regards, -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values predefined. it should not make my job finding suck packages difficult we have more than 10,000 packages in the repos so don't expect me to test them all the package maintainers already classify their packages using Group: in the spec file and they already classify them in yum comps files I demand a systematic way, a policy that tells a package maintainer how to categories their packages in a unified proper way to warn people like us from their packages. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
- yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Couldn't it be the job of those who care to maintain this list in the first place ? no problem, just give me a procedural way other than watching all packages in pkgdb [so that I catch them before they are submitted to the repo] my proposal is like this when someone wants to pack something for fedora and he himself or the upstream wants to tells us about it, then he knows how todo that and where to place his note no more, no less, I have just wrote how do I think about that list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/InappropriateContents#Example stop censorship conspiracy theory. I don't care what does the the law in US, UK, AU say I care about the little daughter of some brother in this universe. law-makers in most countries think of holes then design their laws around the holes. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
or some sort of power. hmmm, I guess it's the power of friendship :-) seriously, I'm sorry, I did not meant it like that, no problem, I request that whenever someone pack a package that he does not want his 8 years old daughter to add it to the list as I don't care for false positives like firefox or yum because yum does not read the wiki page. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
don't think of that list/tags as censor ship,it's just an advice from a friend. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life easier, someone else has to inspect the tens of thousands of packages. and the someone else you refer to is fedora censorship board! no no like that, I asked for a unified place to put those things in the wiki if the maintainer decided that he does not want to add his package to the list we are not going to shoot him. it's just an advice from a friend keep that in mind -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life easier, someone else has to inspect the tens of thousands of packages. I forgot to mention that I'm not the only one who cares think of OLPC having a pre-installed something similar to gnaughty by default how would it appear after the G for Gun issue some schools have fedora installed on their students desktops, I guess they too needs to know such packages. making each of them individually inspecting all packages is not an option. However, you haven't proposed it as that; you seem to have proposed it as a packaging guideline. in the beginning I did not proposed a packaging guideline but I was told to make it a packaging guideline proposal I asked for a unified wiki page that packagers should know that it exists and they have the right to add to it. There is no enforcement involved. If that proposal is too Difficult/complex to implement it can be rejected. If a packager is unwilling to put such a classification in his package then it's up to the people concerned to work it out. it's a wiki page, if the packager was unwilling to put such classification then he have no right to stop the reviewer from editing the wiki page and if they both where unwilling to do so, they both have no right from stopping the first offended user from editing the wiki page, that's all. so I can't see when it can cause a package to be rejected. what is allowed or not allowed because one can not assume that everyone thinks the same way this is not about allowing or not allowing packages or content. It's about a place to know what packages that might be offensive or inappropriate and each group should expect this list to have false positives. Also, others may have said this, but the word demand is a 'violent' word in English. It intones harsh consequences if one's wants are not met and is one that causes fear and anger as a result. I am not sure you mean that. I said I'm sorry. anyway some dictionary says http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/demand to call for or require as just, proper, or necessary: This task demands patience. Justice demands objectivity. and of course I feel that I asked for something that is just and proper and necessary. but I did not mean to force it. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
So I'm afraid that in the end, you (and those who care) will be the ones maintaining such a list. NP, how about calling that wiki page InappropriatePackagesAdvisory ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Firstboot RTL problem (Was Re: Improving Leonidas Backgrounds)
hello, Are you able to get a screenshot? I did not try it, but because I'm a native Arabic speaker I know it I did a mockup for it notice how the text run over the dark side decorations https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c5/Firsftboot-F11-Ar-mock.png and I suggest having a sufficient margin and to duplicate or mirror the dark size decorations https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Firstboot-F11-Ar-mock-fixed.png ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
I tried to avoid talking about the pagan ideas behind some artworks but do we really need a Mascot The term mascot – defined as a term for any person, animal, or object thought to bring luck[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascot don't you have minds, those things are useless they don't bring any luck and you know it why do you pretend to be pagans in the 21th century ? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Photo backgrounds.
I was about to say big no when I saw the first pictures because they seem to be personal and related to some locale culture later I saw this http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/page53/ in general I like any picture of nature that does not show humans nor animals just blue sky and green land and maybe yellow sand I liked those http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2291946810/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2291184191/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2290426575/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2303525516/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2290514777/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2291316890/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2290660173/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannbg/2291418754/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
